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devvy44:
He was never there.

patrickmuf:
You are just turning tables...You said Gerard, Scholes and Lampard are overrated, I said they aren't and should be respected for what they achieved but somehow, you have changed what I said to mean that they're gods...

devvy44:
Gerard has never been on the balon d’or podium

patrickmuf:
Most top players have had their down moments too...You don't want us to start listing them...Schweinsteiger,Messi, Zidane etc...

patrickmuf:
He finished 3rd on the Balon d'or podium and Lampard finished 2nd...Is that not an individual award?

I only said you were wrong to class them below their peers, don't misquote or misrepresent my opinion...

devvy44:
Liverpool got to 2 Ucl finals between 2005 & 2007, Made the semis 2009 yet you say they don’t have world class players?

Where was Madrid when Liverpool did this?

Liverpool had the title right in front of them before the same Gerard slipped and allowed demba ba score and Liverpool eventually went on to lose the title

patrickmuf:
You're the one trying to slander Gerard so, asking me what he did that others didn't do is akin to you turning the table around...My argument has always been that Gerard, Lampard and Scholes are deserving of any accolades they get just as the others you listed...

Talking about national team trophies, even with the Copa America win, aren't they folks who still undermine the achievements of Messi? It is what it is...

patrickmuf:
Carragher world class? He wasn't...

Mascherano, Alonso, Torres were world class as was Suarez who joined after Torres had left...

You can't compare the players Gerard played with with those of Real Madrid, Barcelona or even Manchester United...

patrickmuf:
We are not comparing teams but players...I am dead sure before the COPA win, you already believed Messi was the greatest even though Pele and Maradona have the their respective world cup medals in their cabinet...I do not rate players based on trophies but based on their individual abilities and that's why I don't agree when you attempt to talk down on Scholes, Gerard and Lampard just cos they don't play football in a certain way...

FirstbornWds:
Kaka wasn't consistent. Maybe if Zidane wasn't more of the 90s part, he definitely would be tops.

patrickmuf:
Gerard cemented his legend status in that night in Istanbul...

patrickmuf:
Cruyff is rated highly, what exactly did he win with the Netherlands?

It's not every player that must be pleasing on the eyes, some footballers are very direct doesn't mean they're not good enough...

Totti is revered in the world of football, you won't say because he didn't win the UCL he was not a top performer...Pray tell, if Totti wasn't so loyal and joined Madrid when they. wanted him, wouldn't he have won the UCL? It's the same scenario with Gerard...

GrammarNazi1:
Lampard and Gerard were extremely good, but they are below Xavi and Iniesta.

patrickmuf:
Are you saying that if Gerard had joined Madrid, Chelsea or Manchester United, he wouldn't have won titles?

Scholes is also not overrated...

Lampard was excellent at what he did, you might not fancy his style of play but that doesn't mean he was not right up there...

IKON360:
Scholes is better than Modric and in no dream or such is Kroos better Gerrard. Or trophies are the only metric for grading players now?

GrammarNazi1:
We should know that that they are over hyped does not mean they were not good; it just means that their brilliance is inflated.

FirstbornWds:
1. The gods of the mid-fielding of this century.

2. The second duo are just unexplainable; they had euros and World Cup in the bag

pu7pl3:
WWE RAW REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS

This might be the unpopular opinion, but I can’t help but agree with Charlotte Flair.
After her promo in ring to start the show, interrupting Nikki A.S.H. who had nice things to say about being the new champion and... still... almost a superhero (we’ll get to my feelings on that in a moment!), Flair said what a lot of people who aren’t into this gimmick say. The character of Nikki A.S.H. does not have the star power to carry this division.
That’s not to say she couldn’t! I truly do think that her super hero gimmick can be something great. But I’m confused about the messaging here. The messaging that essentially defines this character.
Nikki A.S.H. is a character that was born out of insecurity, and putting on the superhero outfit with the butterfly emblem and cape gives her the confidence to be Almost a Super Hero. She said in her opening promo that she was afraid to fail, and now she’s not afraid anymore. And she said if you believe in yourself, you can overcome and almost become a superhero.
That’s where I get confused. Because this promo is coming from the top women’s champion of the brand. So, without a championship, I can totally see someone almost being a super hero.
But... you’re still almost a super hero even with a championship? That doesn’t make much sense to me. Almost a super hero makes sense when you’re trying to attain something. When you do attain it, “almost” doesn’t fit anymore.
They’re sort of backed into a corner now with this because what are they going to do, call her Nikki S.H.?
Why I said that I don’t see the star power is because when mentioning her outfit and the butterfly (which her line about a metamorphosis in the division was great), it elicited some boos from the crowd. And it goes to prove that Nikki didn’t need this character to be champion. She’s been beloved for years. This was my worry about the character in the beginning. Let’s see how it goes to SummerSlam.

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Lampard and Gerrard didn't even enter a semi final of an international tourney talkless of winning a spoon yet they leave several world cup winning midfielders in the dust,

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