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LagosCiti:
Her story doesn't add up. What was she doing at the hotel in the first place? So she just woke up, went to a hotel reception and a random man suddenly begged to pay for her, then initiated sex?

Ermm, aunty talk true.

She doesn't stay in Lagos

All these NLers that type shït...

MizMyColi:
Guy, you be confam ijiot!

Lol

Look at this one telling me go and marry.

I am married, happily so.

Now, back to the matter at hand.
Let me school you.

Look son, you don't go judging people by reason of what they post because it does not agree with your own ideologies.
What you posted on this thread projects you as jealous, inferior and a never do well.
Is that the kind of person you really want to be?
If not, kindly desist from judging others.

You're wasting your time with these NLers

The only thing they know is to belittle women just to get their posts liked...

SIRcumalot:
Celtics-cavs should be great.
Hope I have the energy.

I'm not feeling the energy as I thought I would

Maybe na the IT absence be the factor

rotimi9:
With no father...no education and very few role models,they handed this young dirt poor kid 420,000 dollars at age 18 every week. Married his high school sweet heart,never arrested,never used drugs.Never humiliated his spouse with side chic stories.
Excellent father,involved with his kid's activities.Greatest player in the planet.
14 years later,same dude,same maturity.same chic.same family.reputation intact.Now earning close to 2M per week.IF you can't respect that,ur whole perspective is wack.!!

Please next time you copy a post, endeavor to attach credits.

The difference between him and others may not be that he doesn't cheat or do drugs, etc. The difference is LeBron keeps it away from the public which is what we know!!!! That's commendable...

SmooshCHN:
Decale has definitely been banned
Don't know which is worse. Anti-spam bot or these NBA refs

That spambot na anti LeBron...

aliondo:
Happy new year fellas...

Same to you bro

Happy 2018 to the NBA family...

jagugu88li:
We just entered a New Year an 1h30 back. Good tidings to everyone of you.

Midnight breakfast, then we hit the streets to celebrate 2018....
RoyalBlak007 Marinee....how far are the negotiations


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See wetin person dey call midnight breakfast

Is that not dongoyaro or monkey tail at the far right?

Na this kain solvent Mary for bible chop get belle. Smh...

Today's the day Mitchell passed Simmons in rookie standings.

Simmons has been awful this last couple of games. His inability to take shots outside the paint is tiring...

birdman:
Anybody can beat chest when you have Klay and Curry on your team. LET ME REPEAT. Any player can beat their chest when you have the best backcourt in history on your team

Really? What of Calderon and JR Smith huh?

DevdanSanguine:
Everything he wrote there was true though.

I'm not saying it isn't true.

He narrowed the truth to depict Bron's achievements knowing full well this is Bron's 15th season as well, all to do a foolish unnecessary comparison.

Anyway, how many games you got for Bron to make 30k?

DevdanSanguine:
At the time of his 33rd birthday, Michael Jordan was a 3-time MVP and had been to the Finals 3 times.

LeBron turns 33 on Saturday.

He's a 4-time MVP and has been to the Finals 8 times.

(And yes, Jordan would win the title and an MVP later that season). (@micahadams13)

Why do they modify truths somehow to make compelling headlines? Shaa, e no concern me...

Happy birthday LBJ. 10 more games for 30k baybeeeehhhhhhhh

aliondo:
He's not the best rookie from the 2017 draft...oya lets start our own argument

No just argue with that one. Na only Barcelona dey hin head

SIRcumalot:
switched off for a minute and giannis win am for the bucks.

bad free throwing shooting na him kill OKC, good game.

He's out of bounds...

The refs got tired. Bucks go win for OT, na why refs just leave am.

I'm starting to believe those people that say majority of OKC's losses are due to bad calls...

Mavs and Nets don't know when to tank
Smh...

aliondo:
This ona form dey fear me oh....

Looks like our streak wants to end..thought you guys will be the one to end it.

PG's absence might have been a factor. Melo didn't step up but make we dey watch sha

I told you. 60-22 for the season...

SIRcumalot:
westbrook is playing like a boss this game
i expect okc to win

The guy just ended Maker's career...

Donlittle:
When you are injured and out for a whole year, do you train? Play basketball? If so how often?

Don't you just do the normal thing that you have done your whole life? Run drills, shoot three pointers?

Blake Griffin never added anything to his game his rookie year. He was a dunker, and an athletic dude. That was what he did.

Ben Simmons, has he added anything to his game? He has always been a passer, someone that can run the floor, everything he is doing now, he did it in college.
Which advantage did he get? His shooting hasn't improved.

These two rookies did not improve any aspect of their game at all their rookie year. They did the things they were known for in college.


Credit to any rookie who gets injured during his first year before stepping on the basketball court, and comes back to win ROTY. I have watched sports for a long time to know what a year long injury can do to a young prospect. A lot of players lose confidence if they don't play for a year.

Please someone should tell webber to shut up and go apologise to the Fab four.

Oga. May God bless your 2018...

Very few number of these rookies play something after injury

DevdanSanguine:
No, my point is these players ceiling was and always will be average so their comparison with premier players is useless. Given two future stars, the one with a years advantage will always outplay the other.

Mehn. GTFOH...

You know a player was going to be average cos of what? A no 1 pick overall was going to be average?

Shei you sabi Kobe that averaged 3ppg in his rookie season had an average ceiling? Or Mccollum and Butler, abi? And you know all premier players before their first NBA game because you're a God, abi?

Look at what a grown man watching basketball is typing to prove a point.

Because this is the only referable recent case. The other is ben simmons and markelle fultz and regardless of whether the latter was healthy or not there is no way he would outplay simmons partly due to this advantage. As to who will be better in the long run, that remains to be seen so i cant use them as an example.

You've shifted goal post and called Fultz a "future star" cos he's played 6 games this season.

Who am I even arguing with?

Give me just one example of a current NBA star who missed his first year and got outplayed in his rookie season by a player currently inferior to him. Just one!

Who is this coconut? Just look at all the specifics

After ruling out all rookies cos they're average, I should help you and find one inferior to an all star and also played better in a rookie season.

Ori o pe...

First of all are corvington and saric not NBA players? And yet they dont have as much time to soak in as much as ben simmons will. Lets not forget saric and corvington (who besides your condescending tone towards them are established NBA players) simmons during this time had the opportunity to get acquainted with other stars including lebron. Not every player can have this time and opportunity.

How does hanging out with LeBron while injured help him significantly in court? I'm hangry..

Someone spent months conditioning his body part with rehab, not full training ooo. He then started training the same time as these rookies. Tatum started Celtics workouts as early as June FFS. Other rookies too also had more game time than Simmons in pre-season games.

What does this drivel even mean?

I just told you rookies having better opportunities to develop in their teams. How will you understand?

Can you just stop it with the jibber jabber? Is there an advantage or not is the question here, if there is like you've already admitted, all of this nonsense is useless.

As long as there is an advantage no matter how little then its not fair, period! No need to torture me with more of your gibberish.

Oga, SHUT UP!!!

His advantage is insignificant, no dey yammer nonsense for here. He's just good. Simple and shut

Most of the rookies that missed their first seasons didn't improve with rapports and whatsapp chat with LeBron cos they no sabi play.

Embiid, Blake Griffin and Ben Simmons no get any blown out of proportion advantage whatsoever. Mechie onu gi if you don't have a point.

Nansense

DevdanSanguine:
The advantage is there, whether or not a player is good enough to capitalize on it is another issue. Look at the players you mentioned, where are they today?

You're buttressing my point here. Most of these players that missed their rookie seasons were average in the returning years. This makes the advantage you're talking more faint than ever.

Pit them against the first picks of the year they were listed as rookies. Pit blake griffin against john wall today, john wall is a better player. Griffin won rookie of the year because he had an advantage. Fast forward today and look at their ceilings, blake griffin is not better than john wall.

Lol. You're using one player to prove your point, most especially one that's been injured at critical moments in his career. John Wall simply improved, took time too, as well as other players which is normal and not a factor of your rookie year. I can point out players who missed their rookie years that got outplayed by the next year rookies too, over time. That'll make this point moot

I disagree. You get to see and learn how your teammates play and the sort of plays that you run and develop a rapport with your team mates, getting comfortable with them and the level of play for a whole year, thats an advantage. Furthermore you get to watch and train with NBA players not the college players youre used to like most rookies in their first year.

And like I said, you spend most of that year in rehab, working on that injured area. Not a whole damn year training with teammates.


Lol. Who's Ben Simmons gaining experience and plays from? Covington, Saric? Tatum, Mitchell and Dennis Smith Jr have a far experienced team to get more comfortable and improve their level of plays.

Some of these rookies have tactical plays built around them by his coaches/teammates. Kuzma, Mitchell, Markannen are the primary scorers for their teams and leadership is far more expected. They also get well experienced NBA players getting you the ball and not rookies. As far as this goes, they have their paths easier.

Compare a year to a few months. Why do you think most players get better with time? It takes time to develop, again, one year compared to a few months? stop being biased.

You don't get better with time while you're in rehab, certainly not when you're off court. You get better when you play 82 games on the court, same chance as the other rookie.

These same rookies get better on a different team and coach. If you're good, you're good. Forget all these rapport and teammates' high fives.

You dont just learn by playing

This is the only point I can agree to. Your environment helps. However, it hasn't made Simmons stand out as you put it. He doesn't lead in some categories and he sits outside the top 8. This advantage wasn't capitalized as you said by most injured rookies
So, how is the advantage significant enough for people to understand Webber's point?

This Rockets/Celtics L2M be like handout

DevdanSanguine:
My previous comments prove Ben Simmons is my favorite freshman not just personally but in terms of how he plays. I'm just saying players like him who have had a year to gel with a team and develop at least a bit of chemistry with their team have an unfair advantage though its not through any fault of their own. That's why they tend to perform extremely better than other freshmen, case and point Blake Griffin before him who was one of the greatest if not the greatest "rookie" in recent times.

I never said he's not qualified or shouldnt be. I'm just saying I can understand the grievance of those who don't think players like him should be counted as rookies and you'd be blind not to agree.

Nerlens Noel, Julius Randle and to a certain extent Greg Oden also missed their rookie seasons. Were they significantly better than the next year rookies? Did the chemistry off court play a crucial part?

Griffin, Ben Simmons were first overall picks. You can agree many of those picks are the best in their draft class.

Offcourt tactics, training are very different from in court play. You still haven't played your first game and how you'll approach your first game in the NBA varies with these rookies. You should know this

Some of these rookies trained with certain teams during the off season prior to the draft. That's chemistry enough
All the rookies had a chance to play in the pre season with NBA players. That's tactical enough.

An injured player going through rehab with a team shouldn't offer a hefty advantage over other healthy rookies that had months to train with their respective teams too.

And you made the most important point: Injury was not their fault. So, no matter how Webber wants to print his comments, 82 games is a long way for rookies to delete that "advantage".

Cheers...

Abeg, abeg you guys should leave Ben Simmons. Hin no play last season so he's qualified.

NBA can modify their rules next season when it's not late. But for now, Simmons na rookie regardless of whether he bench pressed 150lbs with LeBron.

rotimi9:
Our premier point guard and rim protector didn't play last night not any excuse but at some point we managed to hold a lead by 26 without em not until d final quarter were some reckless decisions were made from our side and refs.the first call was clearly a flop by smart however,props up to smart for forcing d best ISO player in the league to shoot 25% from d field.harden lost dis one for us.but comparing Houston to okc is just off.Houston is ranked 2nd and 3rd in offense and defense in the league,miles ahead of okc
Look up the stats bro numbers don't lie.in a best of 7 series okc don't stand a chance not with their poor shooting percentage and irregular system coordination.a loss should bring up such conclusions considering d fact DAT our squad was short of its alphas.

You forgot Mbah. Those are your 3 best defenders missing last night but they weren't responsible for a team choking a 26 point lead. They weren't responsible for the 6th man airballing 3s in the 4th neither were they responsible for Harden shooting a half court 3 with enough time on the shot clock in the last 2 minutes of a game. They weren't responsible for Harden shoving Smart or his 8TOs.

Don't blame Smart, he learnt flopping from who he's guarding.

And have you watched OKC these last 6 games? I don't want to say anything cos they're terribly inconsistent but if they remain so, the whole Western conference should be at alert.

DevdanSanguine:
Goes beyond his handles man. The maturity in every aspect of his game is impressive, even for a duke alumnus.

His future is looking better than the other rookies out there.

The only reason he's not ahead in rookie rankings is cos he's not the go to guy. I'm sure he'll take his impact and participation in playoffs over ROY.

DevdanSanguine:
Ooh and Jayson Tatum is special.

The rookie with the best handles hands down...

Decale:
He needs his form this 4th quarter

It's like Horford's a NLer...

Smart played smartttt. Rockets had no answer in the 2nd half.

Harden made a mess for a leader...

Horford don go bench, Celtics playing their best defense and lead is down to 13.

He needs his form this 4th quarter

Roland17:
You got to give it to Harden, the man is a pure scorer. He scores in different ways that are difficult to defend and his ball handling has improved significantly.

Celtics need to figure out how to rotate players on him while simultaneously protecting the rim. You guys can't do much about those 5 3 point shooters but getting them off positions will change their rhythm.

But the most important is Horford. He's trash panda this half...

Donlittle:
Quick Question Guys: Milwaukee bucks, Are they over achieving or under achieving?

The team looks scary on paper, but I don't get it, I think they should be top 3 teams in the east.

Top 3? That's asking too much...

They can't go over the top 3 in the East. Their rightful position should be 4/5 before or after Wizards. So, to your question; they're slightly underachieving. Then again, Bucks have played the least number of games in comparison to others.

Wolves on paper look more deadly than Spurs. We have the top 3 for each conference and going above definitely means overachieving in relative to the top 3's performances, which are as expected.

Moreover, the East has always been that team that with more teams vying for playoff spots or having more teams over .500. You can't deny the competition there wouldn't stop people from having 60 wins. We all thought the West would change the story this year but it didn't. Lakers and Jazz have been underwhelming and injuries have marred Clippers season.

So, let's wait for them to pick up on their number of games and then we judge.

VivaLaByke:
So you're telling me the Lakers look boring,can't create their own shots,lack someone that can distribute the ball and also clueless offensively without Lonzo Ball?


Thought you said he "can't shoot."

Oh yeah. Lakers have never gone on a losing streak with Lonzo. They've not won even when he's on the bench

He's really the MVP of that team...