Drabeey: obviously you aint telling lies, but your dad is a true hero of democracy and for that we shall never forget him. So, To your dad, yes Nigeria is worth dying for.
Anyways....
Drabeey was Here
Her dad died for nothing. Nigeria isn't worth sacrificing for because Nigeria is a fraud. If you doubt me ask Keshi's and Sam Okparagi's families.
abdurrazaq: Do I know you at all? I am not one of your usual bigots that have got nothing else to think or type about except bitterness. You can reserve your frustration for your likes, kindly swerve and let me see the road
Son of murderous love and iniquity, truth is bitter.
obailala: You keep making these northerners sound like some form of gods... Inferiority complex and a defeatist attitude is all I read in your comments; and this is a problem faced by the entire south, believing and fearing the northerners as though they were gods of some sort whose decision is final.
Meanwhile your submission doesn't add up, you do not think it is possible to achieve regional rule, but you think it is possible to have outright secession?... The fact is that you are just obsessed with the idea of an exit cos your above assumptions are illogical.
For a secession to succeed, the SE absolutely needs the support of at least the SS and SW, but you and I know the SW and even majority of the SS isn't buying the whole secession idea. (if anyone thinks by any chance that the SS is actually interested in secession, I would simply advise such a person to travel and interact more). A desire which is common with the SS, SE and SW is the return of regionalism (or resource control as the SS would prefer to call it). I also do not doubt the desire of the middle-belt states (Benue, Kogi, Kwara, Plateau, Nassarawa) to return to regionalism also if they had the chance. If any form of restructure is to be achieved, the cooperation of more than one zone is needed, and the only way to get people to cooperate is to offer everyone something which is mutually desired (this concept shouldn't be difficult to understand). Since the SW, middle-belt and even the majority of the SS aren't down for secession, the logic of 'regionalism' being more achievable than secession shouldn't be difficult to understand.
Nobody is depriving you of your regional autonomy and in the other hand don't deprive others of their right to Self-determination. Thanks.
nku5: Your facts are badly twisted and inaccurate. Besides the fact that neither china or russia is a real democracy:
1. China: Taiwan IS independent though it was always part of china from the beginning of history. After the communist revolution, the chinese general who lost power to Mao moved to the island and with American backing it has claimed statehood ever since. Hong Kong was simply leased to the British for 100 years and the lease has expired. Chinese are a race, what is a Nigerian? What does it mean to be a Nigerian? Do you know?
2. Russia: The chechenya you mentioned has been the subject of a struggle by big nations for centuries by and between the Russians, Ottoman empires and Crimean khanate. Russia alllowed them be until 1999 when they started sponsoring islamic fundamentalism in the region and attacked Dagestan.
3. Your scotland example is not only wrong its laughable. If Scotland joined willingly why did they fight a war of independence like Biafra did? Moreover who says a nation can only opt out of a state only if it joined willingly, ridiculous idea!
You have no justification at all for denying people the right to self determination as enshrined under the UN charter
attackgat: Don't worry about him. He is just another Yoruba man who is afraid of what his life will be like if Igbos go, and he is left at the mercy of Hausa/Fulani.
Is that why he devoted all his time jumping from one place to another without a tangible argument against Biafra restoration?
attackgat: Exactly what Lugard said when he was shooting your forefathers and raping your mothers in other to make them 'Nigerians'. Don't you feel proud to be his apostle? Of course you are! He named you after a River didn't he? You are his proud product right? Because you are a backward African who the White man decides his country for. You have a lot to be proud of
I have spent time educating that idiat but he failed to learn, so I have no option than to allow him wallow in wilderness.
victorvezx: I am here, u can use this opportunity to run away. I know u want to run away and cry to ur foster mother. U have being whipped in the a$$. Use style run
Ofeke, how does your incoherence have a place in 21st century? I have more pressing issues to attend to. Jumping from one place to another isn't a healthy discussion.
victorvezx: And I said the Fulani herdsmen issue needs police intervention which they are currently on. The police are the ones now fighting to stop this herdsmen. I used it to differentiate on how the government will react when it's territory is threatened. Like in the case of Biafra, so it is in the case of boko haram
At this juncture go for lunch because your incoherence is increasing with speed of light. See you later. No insults!
victorvezx: Is Fulani herdsman running a republic inside Nigeria? Their actions requires only police intervention. Can't u see that boko haram declared their caliphate, they took territories and hoisted there flags in those territory, telling us they have declared their country, but till now the army is still fighting them for more than 7 years, just like the way we fought buffs that also declared its country.Declare a republic inside Nigeria and see how mad the army gets.
What's wrong with you? You said Ojukwu should have waited for FG to take care of the igbos being shuttered in the north, I now ask you the way FG is stopping Fulani herdsmen, and you jumped to bokoharam. Are you okay?
victorvezx: Lol, I am saying it to u, every country have their territory to protect, and Nigeria will protect theirs whether u like it or not. We showed a lesson in 1967-1970, on how we can protect our territorial integrity.
Who have come back again to this territorial integrity nonsense I have trashed. Who and who made up Nigeria?
victorvezx: Chai, simple comprehension, u can't. What I mean is that , Ojukwu declaring Biafra, it's an act and call for war by the Nigerian side. Of course u are biafran, u will be bias to support ur own, u won't see it as a call for war. After all, the whole problem darted immediately Ojukwu declared Biafra. I wish he did not declare Biafra and instead wait on the government to intervene and stop the killing of igbos in the north, the government would not been stock piling arms immediately Ojukwu declared Biafra. The last thing I will do is to start re-writing history to suit me. Only people without good conviction do that.
The same way Nigeria government is stopping Fulani herdsmen murder today? My friend even Gowan the genocidist said Ojukwu did the right thing so how come did Nigeria government went to war? What happened to Aburi accord? What stops FG from implementing it?
victorvezx: I don't blame u. It's with ur Ipob brain that u think That former colonialists still control Africa. U need a brand new brain. The one u have now is infected with Kanu lies and propaganda. Yimu, u can join ur frustrated people to cry, while we patriotic Nigerians wait and see what u will do to undermine Nigeria sovereignty. We dey wait oh.
I have told you to stop this useless sovereignty. Low brain, Africa is a dumping ground for your info.
victorvezx: It does not matter, so far as it is war. Some Wars begin with provocations which the other side will react. Declaring the republic of Biafra was simply an act of war, how do u expect the government to just fold their hands and look. America did not join the Second World War until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in U.S, in an act of provocation. then America declared war against Japan, Thereby officially participating in the war. It only takes provocation to start a war, Ojukwu declared war on Nigeria by declaring Biafra, he knew the consequences.
Who told you Ojukwu declared war against Nigeria? How did you come to that? Ojukwu have mandate of eastern people who made up Biafra. You are among those who rewrite history for your selfish gain.
victorvezx: Who cares? Was there agreement between the whole tribe in Cameroon before France joined them together as a country. That is why they are called colonialists, they do what ever they want because they have the power, they don't have to call anybody to agree on anything. Nigeria already has s defined territory which it will protect, right now, how we were joined together does not matter, u can discuss that with urself and ur people. The government does not give a Bleep
At your age though not certain, you haven't started thinking on how Africa should be liberated? No wonder all the colonial oppressive tendencies was transferred to born to rule, and you Afonja sworn with your life that status quo must be maintained. What a pathetic fellow?
victorvezx: U asked me if Nigeria has ever won any fight, and I said yes. I used Biafra as an example. Biafra was independent and got defeated by Almighty Nigeria. U were even the one that deviated from the main topic of '"territorial integrity", to mow asking who defeat who. U are obviously brain dead. I will finish u here u will cry to ur foster mother
Incoherent fellow get your facts right, did Biafra took up arms against Nigeria?
victorvezx: Have igbos or Biafra fought any foreign nation and win. Ok I remember, u were once a foreign nation because u were independent for 3 years. Then u went to war with a nation and that nation totally destroyed Biafra, killing 2 million biafran citizens, I mean, which defeat could be worse than that?
You know what? you are a defeated soul searching for anything for safety. Our argument started with territorial integrity and ended with it. You should have answer me yes and mention the nation or maybe mention Biafra then I will start from their but your incoherence is so alarming. And I advise other members of this forum to stop engaging you in healthy discussion because you can hardly maintain one.
victorvezx: Lol, keep deceiving urself, maybe u should ask Nnamdi Azikiwe. Or u should ask Jaja nwachukwu who was Nigeria first ambassador to the U.N why he did not tell the U.N and world that there are biafrans that want freedom in Nigeria. I know why, because there was nothing like Biafra then, lol. Or maybe u should ask Britain why they brought us together and colonized us, or u can provide the so called 100 years of existence crap. Show me the document now
Why aren't you stable? Why jumping from Pilar to post? Is that how your government will win Kanu in debate? Sorry is your name.
victorvezx: Nigeria knew it may lead to bigger armed conflict, and heavy sanctions from the U.N so we just obeyed international court. lol, so can the U.N sanction Nigeria because we refuse to give u biafran territory? I guess no. That is why we are not afraid to give u Biafra, u can kill ur self, the U.N will not loose sleep over u people.
I thank God by now you must have desist from using that useless "territorial integrity and no one can detect to Nigeria on what to do", any day I see you using it in any thread then I will know you're incurable. That reminds me, have Nigeria fought any foreign nation and win?
victorvezx: He had a grand plan on how to break up Nigeria and he was working towards it, that why he was arrested. Uwazurike was convicted and sentenced, he was not just kept in prison. U have brains, use it to comprehend.
Who and who agreed to be a Nigerian in the first place before we start discussing its breakup?
victorvezx: To Nigeria, it was Nigerian territory, to Cameroon, it was their territory, but to the international community, it was Cameroon territory right from the beginning which Nigeria unlawfully annexed
It was Nigeria territory right? Then how come the Nigeria territorial integrity was Shattered by the same people you said that can’t detect to you on what to do? Remember your statement that even international community can't detect to you on what do, that your sovereignty and useless territorial integrity is untouchable, so how come you were detected on what to do in the case of barkasi peninsula?
victorvezx: In the bakassi, both Nigeria and Cameroon were claiming it's their territory, It was a Hotly contested land even before independence. Nigeria and Cameroon have fought low key battles several times for that land, but Cameroon got tired and took the case to international court, which ruled to their favor because Bakassi was part of Cameron from the beginning until Nigeria annexed it only because there were Nigerians who settled there and then over populated the territory even more than the original people there. Can Ipob take Nigeria to the intentional court? Lol,
My question is, "was barkasi peninsula a Nigerian territory?" just yes or no!
victorvezx: We shall see, at least uwazurike of Massob did not insult Igbo elders, or insult other tribe, but he still spent close to 8 years in jail. Expect that for ur lord and savior Kanu. BELIEVE THAT
You see why my moniker isn't allow to sail here because I know you people lack common rationality, if you keep him in detention have you convicted him? How then do you bring insulting igbo elders to this discussion or did you arrested him because of insulting igbo elders? Chai Afonja small brain.
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victorvezx: We may be signatory to that law, that does not mean we are obliged to obey it, after all, we have our constitution which the U.N must obey because they have no right to tamper with any country territorial integrity except that country agrees. The U.N will not say anything about ur Biafra struggle unless Nigeria support it.
What happened to your might and territorial integrity in the case of barkasi peninsula of Nigeria and Cameroun?
victorvezx: Benjamin Onwuka of Biafra Zionist movement, (his own case is even worse, he wanted to raise Biafra flag in Enugu government owned station, the police tried to stop him and his members, the fight led to the death of a police officer and members, his still in prison now for years) Nnamdi Kanu of Ipob, and thousands of Ipob members in prison for years, some have not even be tried in court for years.
Mr. Empty brain it was only Kanu were charged with treason, every other IPOB members was charged with belonging to unlawful society. What do you think that's keeping FG from convicting him? All they can do is detain him and nothing else. Mark my words somewhere!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Is Not Worth Dying For – Bola Ige’s Daughter by DeleteNonsense: 3:34am On Sep 18, 2016
I am not one of your usual bigots that have got nothing else to think or type about except bitterness. You can reserve your frustration for your likes, kindly swerve and let me see the road