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Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:22pm On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: Doesn't matter what I or anyone else wants or don't want. Makes no difference. Except a miracle happens, the report is dead.
We know ur type. these are the forces Nigerians are contending with. The "CABAL". Retardeen's friends.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:18pm On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: Childish attempt at trickery and trying to divert attention as usual. It won't work sorry. Your man FLawan goofed big time. Your rants here won't save him, sorry.
In otherwords, u havent read the report right? No wonder u never knew that that the report has more than one list grin grin grin
Go here for the report boy, it will shed light to ur darkness
https://www.nairaland.com/politics
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:16pm On Jun 13, 2012
Kobojunkie: Didn't the initial story have it that the SSS already had the video and audio evidence? The story from last friday suggested that the SSS was in on the "sting", and had all the evidence against Lawan. Why does this story now suggest that the evidence has been in Otedola's hands all along? undecided undecided undecided
maybe Otedola has his own copy and version undecided
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:15pm On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: You are wasting bandwidth man! If FLawan goes down, the report is pooo. The report is only as credible as Lawan's a$$ right now!
Its obvious to me now that u arent interested in the truth. the guy was simply showing u other lists in the same report. U simply want the report dead right no matter what?
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:11pm On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: Exibiting you treacherous ways as usual. Did you not watch FLawan arguing for Zenon to be removed from the list on live TV? What other proof do you need?
Just one question for u to be sure that u have fully read the report.
How many lists are in this report?
be man enough to accept u erred boy. i apologised and accepted that i erred when someone corrected me about Tewonde George, why are u this useless? angry angry angry
na wa ooo
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:07pm On Jun 13, 2012
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eGuerrilla: The moment a certain NLer went to town firing on all cylinders at the beginning of this latest saga, was the time not a few commentators suspended any sense of objectivity.
so unfortunate
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:06pm On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: What subsidy report. The one based on blackmail and corruption and extortion or another one?
Alleged blackmail and corruption. nothing is proven yet.
Subsidy Report must not Die.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:05pm On Jun 13, 2012
i also find this part of the opening report on the first page interesting:


Asked if the Police had recovered the money, a senior officer close to the investigation said yesterday: “First of all, the money was at no time handed over to the Inspector General of Police. Secondly, we have asked Hon. Lawan and the House to hand over the money to us and so far they have refused.

“We are told that the money will be kept as exhibit and only presented in a court of law. The question arising now is when has the House of Representatives become a security agency. What about the fear of tampering with the money, how do we guard against it if the money remains with the House?”


Does this mean that the House and not Farouk is in possession of this money? More questions.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 1:00pm On Jun 13, 2012
logica: LOL. Some people (mostly Igbo) are simply against Otedola for being Yoruba. Their hatred clouds any sense they have (assuming they have any brain matter left that is). These kind of mor0ns are the reason why the Igbos lost the Biafran War.
Abegii, ethnic warriors arent welkom on this thread.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 12:59pm On Jun 13, 2012
eGuerrilla: Zenon appears as the 6th company indicted for claiming forex even when no petroleum products were imported.
If my understanding is correct, the list you presented here is for companies that were erroneously paid subsidy for Discharges

See excerpt from final subsidy report:
at times i wonder if those that are claiming zenon was removed from list actually read the full report
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 12:54pm On Jun 13, 2012
karl max: Quote lacidi

52. SEA PETROLEUM & GAS CO. LTD N1,019,571,609.00

http://www.seapetrol.com/staffmgt.html

Why should this lady continue to remain in govt and benefit from subsidy claims? Is this not conflict of interest?
I will like to know if Farouk also solicited a bribe from her or what the committeee stated about her is true.
till date she still hasnt denal



Maybe SPG no settle facrook lawan that is why their name appeared. Remember that zenon was once on the list the same facrook exonerate them after the money changed hand so if SPG had settled their name won't be on the list more revelation is coming
[b]But unlike some companies SPG hasnt raised an alarm till date about the wrong done to them. MAybe, like u said undecided

Secondly, dont u think this is a conflict of interest for a federal minister of the repulblic to be benefitting from Subsidy claims?
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 12:51pm On Jun 13, 2012
Donxavier: . @Demdem I think it's better you just keep quiet if you don't want to take sides. Nothing wrong with that. But this your logic of defending Farouk and believing him despite the avalanche of evidences against him and the fact that so far Otedola has been the one to give incontrovertible proofs is Irritating. If you don't believe Otedola fine but your logic for defending farouk is flawed.
Am defending no one man. its left for me to accept ur advise or not. its 50-50 IMO till futher revelations.
Bottom line: The subsidy report must be implemented.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 12:42pm On Jun 13, 2012
this part of the report in the opening page seems to have eluded everybody. what does this mean? u all check the beginning of the second paragraph. what call logs are these? are they saying the truth? undecided undecided

Sources close to Lawan were still upbeat, yesterday, insisting that the Police was working on the call logs in its custody, with which they were expected to clear the embattled lawmaker.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 12:32pm On Jun 13, 2012
debosky: Quit spouting this nonsense and exhibiting your stupid!ty on a public forum.

The police requested evidence on the 16th of May, and the bribe allegedly exchanged hands on the[b] 21st of April[/b]. How in your daft head do you think that the police instructed him to collect bribe nearly a month after he collected it? undecided

The first letter from the IG to Farouk was on the 9th of May, so I ask you - how can the IG have instructed Farouk to collect a bribe after he had collected it?

Stoopidity and ignorance is a dangerous thing.
grin grin wise man kindly show me this because i seem not to have come across it.
Farouk so far as tendered a letter from the IGP with a reference number that can be traced from the police headquarters. All we need to confirm the authenticity of this piece. that am ready to wait for. iddiots like u will be ready to conclude before all facts are displayed. ODE.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 12:25pm On Jun 13, 2012
erniok: @ demdem, quit arguing blindly. Yes, its a recommendation and should it be implemented, would be disastrous for Zenon. Pray tell me,wat was wrong in involving law enforcement agents, who would have discussed with their legal team and decided to go ahead with the operation. I guess ur type prefers investigative to preventive measures.

well, dont think i am. Its just that am not ready to pitch my tent to whatever team for now unlike many of u guys because its still not completely clear. For it to be implemented, the govt/security agents will still go over it and implement the implementables. besides we have the law courts that Otedola can utilise so whats ur basis? Nothing is wrong with involving the security agents, am just not comfortable with the what i think is the original motives
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 12:20pm On Jun 13, 2012
lacidi: [/b]

52. SEA PETROLEUM & GAS CO. LTD N1,019,571,609.00
[b]http://www.seapetrol.com/staffmgt.html

Why should this lady continue to remain in govt and benefit from subsidy claims? Is this not conflict of interest?
I will like to know if Farouk also solicited a bribe from her or what the committeee stated about her is true.
till date she still hasnt denied it oooo
Politics › Re: Farouk Lawan: Femi Otedola's $500K Bribe Was To Expose Him by Demdem(m): 12:15pm On Jun 13, 2012
tete7000: In a democratic setting the way obasanjo went fighting corruption is totally wrong. You see you don't fight a wrong with another wrong. President was not meant to go around fighting corruption like it is a personal war. Institutions are meant to be strengthened so that they can carry out their duties. I prefer that allegations are sent to appropriate quarters (efcc and the likes) and they be given time to do their jobs for which they are created. I believe because we have lived under military administrations for too long, we all seem to have lost sense of what is right or wrong. Obasanjo was too raw and too crude to be a democratic president. His methods were wrong and if Nigeria has continued his way, only God knows where Nigeria would be now. He is not better than Jonathan. If nothing happens under Jonathan, it is not because of Jonathan but a reflection that Nigerians in government institutions that have been give free hands to operate are equally corrupt. How else can you describe that Ibori was jailed in US while a Nigerian Judge acquitted him of same charges with same evidences. Is Jonathan the Judge? Or do you expect him to teach the Jugde his job?
My friend, i smiled reading ur post and it seems to me u dont understand ur country. Nigeria isnt a place where things just happen the way they ought to be. OBJ fought it the way he deemed fit and results were coming no matter how small, now that the current president is there who seems to allow procedures or whatever to have its way, u tell me what result has been gotten so far. Its about results my brother.

Nigeria may be a democratic country but believe me if i say we also need a flair of authoritarian governance especially at the beginning of our democratic process.

If nothing happens under Jonathan then he is to be blamed so please dont deflect the blame at all. Only if he uses his powers as stated in the constitution. What about his political will? dont u think he is also lacking in that area? besides he promised judicial reforms? what has he done about this except sacking salami erroneously?
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 12:03pm On Jun 13, 2012
sadi78: are you involved?
undecided undecided
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:51am On Jun 13, 2012
^^^^

na wa ooo. this is another angle entirely. some will tell u na string operation from SSS.
Anyway, i rest my case for now till new developments.
Politics › Re: Farouk Lawan: Femi Otedola's $500K Bribe Was To Expose Him by Demdem(m): 11:45am On Jun 13, 2012
tete7000: To call Jonathan administration the most corrupt is to show one's lack of understanding of what has happened under past administrations. Obasanjo and his predecessor tenure were as corrupt as this administration. I think we have to still give this administration some kudos for allowing some transparencies. If it were under obasanjo's or babangida's tenure all the revelations we are having now would have been muscled and swept under the carpet. For a man with power to allow himself be criticised the way Jonathan has done deserves some reccomendation.
Nop, during OBJ people were going to jail no matter how selective u call it. Obj Minister went and later died in jail, what about IGP etc what can we say about this administration?
Infact i am forced to say that corruption may not be our problem now but impunity which seems to be the order of the day.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:31am On Jun 13, 2012
oddy4real: you are wrong jor. you and false assumptions. the matter was F.R.N v Bode George. he was tried in a Federal High court.
Eeyah, thanks for the correction. am bad. It didnt even happen during the retardeens tenure. The retardeen simply welcomed him back from jail


In August 2008, the EFCC under its new head Farida Waziri arrested Olabode George in Lagos and arraigned him and four others on a 163 count-charge of conspiracy, disobedience to lawful order, abuse of office and alleged illegal award of contracts worth N84 billion while he was chairman of the NPA.[42] After the trial had started, the EFCC reduced the charge to 63 counts.[43] In October 2009, Bode George was found guilty and sentenced to jail for 30 months.[44] The sentence was handed out by Justice Joseph Olubunmi Oyewole.[45] The judge found the defendants guilty on 47 out of the 68 counts. The total sentences added up to 28 years, but the counts for disobedience to lawful order were ruled to run concurrently for six months, and the counts for contract inflation then to run concurrently for two years.[1]
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:26am On Jun 13, 2012
erniok: I'm of the opinion that if FL is found guilty by the court, the report is grossly flawed and must be discarded ASAP sentiments aside. Did we read read d part where otedola alleged that FL told him that many are paying and getting their names struck off the list.

For those screaming: if zenon was not a beneficiary of the subsidy, why did otedola give bribe. Are youy aware that the recommendations of the report includes refund, blacklisting of the affected coy and prosecution. Who in his right mind wouldn't go to security agents when u will be made to refund a whooping $235m,get ur biz grounded and likely go to jail. Should u contest in a law court after the probe, savanah bank will become ur second name. Otedola made a great decision to involve sss.

FL messed up big time for holding onto the money for 2 months not weeks/days. If he was really honest, he would have reported to security agents immediately not waiting to be ratted out first. Ribadu, even though he was head of the efcc, immediately lodged the money with CBN since he was going to prosecute ibori. He also could have taken it home and pretend all is well but he didn't. Dats y I believe a lot in him as far as anti-corruption is concerned.
for the records and public consumption:
because the house made a recommendation doesnt mean that it will be implemented by the executive. Infact, the house requested that the security agents should proceed in investigating further. Even if otedola's name is there in error, the truth will definately prevail at the end. There are channels where ones grievances can be expressed besides this is a man that has the balls of the president in his hands. abegii leave tori.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:21am On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: Or are you trying to prove us right when we say Lagos state judiciary is on Tinubu's payroll?
My understanding is there are three arms of Govt. Executive, legislature and Judiciary. Give me the prove to these allegation and am ok. its also on record that tewonde George appealed up to the upper courts and was denied. does this also mean the appeal court is also in Tinubu's pocket? na wa for u oooo. SHow me evidence boy.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:19am On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: So LASG is now a law court or what? [s]I don't understand how you come up with these kind of statement sometimes. Your ignorance is legendary, honestly![/s]
The prosecutors were from the LASG and the SANs succeeded in sending Tewonde george to jail. Give us examples from FG prosecutors.
Thanks
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:15am On Jun 13, 2012
Chinom: If Farouk Lawam collected $620 from Otedola and STILL indicted him in his report, he DESERVES a statue at Eagle square. That is very unNigerian. I do not doubt him when he says that he reported the bribery by Otedola to the police. The fact that he still indicted Otedola, regardless, is a heroic act in the Nigerian context.
The Govt must carry out the recommendations asap. A very important aspect of the whole investigation is that Otedola OFFERED the bribe.
What Farouk did is what applies in the Western world. He had to collect the money as evidence, otherwise Otedola will deny it later.
correct !!!.

Above all, farouk is claiming he is following the directive of the IGP as stated in the reference letter from the IGP. let the Police speak out to know if this is true or not abi undecided
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:12am On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: Have you been living on the moon? Haven't you ever heard of guys like Bode George?
LASG handled the case not FG
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:11am On Jun 13, 2012
yunafa: MAY GOD ALMIGHTY PUNISH THE ENTIRE GENERATION OF ANY BODY WHO IS TRYING TO FRUSTRATE THIS OIL SUBSIDY PROBE, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALSO, THEY SHALL BE EXPOSED ONE BY ONE.
AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNn
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 11:05am On Jun 13, 2012
edicolove: How can the government take a bold step on a reccomendation that was based on blackmail and corruption. You are funny!
Alleged blackmail and corruption. it still hasnt been fully substantianted
Politics › Re: Subsidy Probe: I didn't Collect Any Bribe - Farouk Lawan by Demdem(m): 11:02am On Jun 13, 2012
eGuerrilla: @Demdem,

The SSS vs Police angle is an interesting one that has crossed my mind more than once since this saga started.

Is there a chasm of some sort undermining investigative work within our security forces?
I think most observers would agree we have seen some evidence of this in relation to how Boko Haram is being handled.

Just a thought.
its obvious to me that these two agencies simply dont work together cooperatively.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 10:53am On Jun 13, 2012
ayox2003: Honestly, its a no-brainer that this regime is most corrupt since 1999.
One person- just one has not been jailed.
So pathetic
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 10:52am On Jun 13, 2012
mart2k: mr man,you have only succeeded in doing one thing which is,exposing to people how dumb you are,if not why should u say that d sss and d police are trying to implicate d two players in d saga.why cant u think twice 4 once 4 god sake
U are a big buffoon. Where did i say that?
From recent reports it seems to me that both the SSS and Police were acting alone individually.
SSS (Otedola) to implicate Farouk
Farouk (Police) to implicate Otedola

baring any additional info, this seems to be the situation.
Politics › Re: $3M Bribery: Otedola Submits Evidence To Police by Demdem(m): 10:48am On Jun 13, 2012
Aniah4u: What surprised me most is First, 'HON' Lawan speaking dis'HON'ourably from both sides of his mouth, denying ever collecting any bribe,then,admitting barely 24hrs later of committing same offence when it became obvious dat d scene was recorded.Secondly, Otedola trying 2 tell us he is not a beneficiary of d subsidy largese.Why would he bribe somebody for an offence he never committed? Besides, who is AP? Well, this is just a tip of the Iceberg as events unfold.
I feel u however putting myself in farouk's shoes:
After being directed by the IGP to collect material evidence, i decided to collect money from Otedola with the intent of acquiring the evidence.
Now a neutral person that knows nothing about it now ask me if i collected bribe from him shocked shocked shocked
My response will be:
Well, i actually collected it but i didnt collect bribe grin grin

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