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Olaolufred: Thanks demdem.how i wish we all open our hearts and see that both sides seems not to be clean all in an effort to acheive one singular goal which is the not to punish the perpetrators of the Subsidy Scam itself. i said this in an another thread demdem: we dont need any Farouk report to indict the president. he already has been indicted by his decisions. here are the undisputed facts: |
Billyonaire: I went into town after hearing these issues, I happen to know people who know people, and I get from very true source, closest confidant of Otedola, that this incident took place, Lawan threatened Otedola and he actually went to SSS and get him nailed. My source is true.how are u sure that this main source of ur info isnt bias since such is a close confidant of the criminal(2) involved in this debacle? it seems as if u have been fooled boy |
emmasege: Hypocrite, did it take them so long to oppose fuel subsidy removal which was a good move though, and did they ever speak up during the Fashola/Doctors saga?removal of fuel subsidy was already a debatable issue in the polity as far back as November 2011 so a position has already been taken even before the retardeen went ahead so whats ur point? tell me about any state affairs the SNG has meddled in? besides who told u the govt didnt enjoy the support of the people against the doctors during the strike? u are the hypocrite here my friend. |
Billyonaire: You dont have to bolden the texts to be heard. He wants to go to court ? And you think he will fly in court? Know the truth, and the truth shall set you free - (Jesus, the founder of Christianity)Bolden is my preference and arent against the rules so pls shut it. for now, no one knows the truth and thats a fact. |
Billyonaire: Keep derailing, it really sucks when you derail. You are supposed to be focused, but then again, its your weakness.how am i derailing? all what i have said is in line with the topic of discussion on this thread. as far as i am concerned, nothing is certain for now. Not Farouk's point neither is Otedola's point certain. What exactly is certain is the below: Demdem: The main reason why we shouldnt focus more on these unknowns and channel our efforts on the Known. and below is the known?Pitch ur tent with the retardeen, its a choice and i respect that |
Billyonaire: In this case, it will not be admissible, the videotapes exists.thats left for the courts to decide and not u. Handnotes are admissible if they are done right. |
rewind: Demdem: he did sum it up but i dont think it was perfectly done. Demdem: The main reason why we shouldnt focus more on these unknowns and channel our efforts on the Known. and below is the known? |
absolutely nothing is wrong with handwritten notes as long as its done in the right way and such are admissible in the law court. Before these computer days, how was it done? wasnt it through typewriters or handwritten? |
Danka7777: There was an agreement between Dangote and Ibeto. The agreement was that Ibeto would take care of the eastern and south south market only and Dangote will not meddle.can u all now see that what we have is a cartel. that bullshit story of competition bringing down price is nonsense |
eGuerrilla: Fair enough, so we focus on the known knowns then.Of cos, that is much more important and factual PointB: I have a question here.well, i personally have written several handnotes. I also time-stamp with my signature inclusive. I believe this is possible and acceptable IMO |
eGuerrilla: There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.The main reason why we shouldnt focus more on these unknowns and channel our efforts on the Known. and below is the known? The Govt under the express permission of the retardeen, my president went beyond budgetary appropriation by over 900% to service petroleum subsidy in which the bulk of the funds were channelled for electioneering by the killer party therby committing an impeachable offence. This amounts to Trillions of Naira. |
honestly, am fed up with this less than 100Million bribe when almost 2trillion naira subsidy fraud is still pending |
eGuerrilla: You've summed it up perfectly - it is a case of he who dares wins.he did sum it up but i dont think it was perfectly done. The mere fact that Farouk has informed the police like 2months ago about this issue speaks volume. When Ibori tried to bribe Nuhu Ribadu with cash, its on record that Nuhu collected the money from Ibori and used it against him in court. How am i sure that Farouk simply isnt trying to do the same If we are arent comfortable with the handwritten notes what about the reported case to the police months ago? ![]() |
[b]Farouk Lawan released a statement on Sunday through which he denied accepting any bribe money from Femi Otedola to influence the subsidy report. The Chairman of the subsidy probe committee never denied taking $ 500,000 from oil baron Femi Otedola, he did however deny the existence of a videotape, largely because he never suspected its existence. The Femi Otedola story of “involving the SSS and Lawan initiating the bribe attempt” appear to be part of an intricately woven plot to discredit the House of Representatives report on Fuel subsidy. The presidency is in a predicament over implementing the report as it calls for the punishment of some of his senior aides and campaign contributors, including Femi Otedola, Diezani Madueke (Minister of Petroleum Resources) and Stella Odua (Minister of Aviation). Farouk Lawan reportedly informed the Chairman of the House Committee on Drugs/Narcotics and Financial Crimes, Adams Jagaban, about the bribe attempt, surrendering the $ 500,000 cash which consisted of ten bundles of mint $ 50,000, attached to a memo. The memo from Lawan to Jagaban partly reads, “You may please recall that I intimated you of the persistence of Mr. Femi Otedola, Chairman Forte Oil, Zenon Oil and AP Petroleum to offer monetary inducement to influence the outcome and Consolidation of the report of the Ad Hoc Committee on Petroleum Subsidy. “Attached (to the letter) is the sum of five hundred thousand dollars only offered to me with another promise of two million, five hundred thousand dollars. I had considered bringing this issue as a matter of privilege on the floor of the House later today when the House sits, but I am concerned the controversy it will generate will dwarf the content of the report which needs public attention so that the necessary reforms in the sector could be effected. “I however believe that given the desperation of Mr. Otedola, handling this matter in a furious but diplomatic manner is necessary as he has also made some vested threats which put me and members of my Committee in a delicate situation. “While reporting this matter to you and hoping that appropriate action will be taken, we shall continue to monitor him and if further offers are made, we shall duly handover to your committee.” The Acting Inspector General of Police, Mohammed Abubakar was also informed by the House of the bribery attempt by Femi Otedola, a member of the President’s economic management team. Based on the letter written to the IG on the bribery attempt, the police ordered a discreet investigation into the matter. Farouk Lawan informed the law enforcement bodies over two (2) months ago about the bribery attempts, indicating his innocence of collecting the money maliciously. It is however telling that although the Chairman of Forte Oil claimed to have involved the SSS early enough for them to conduct a sting operation, that there is no evidence of Lawan initiating the bribe proceedings. According to sources, Femi Otedola called Lawan’s phone over 50 times the night he was given the money. Secretary to the Ad Hoc Committee, Mr. B. C. Emenalo, also disclosed through a memo to Lawan another bribery attempt by Femi Otedola. The memo, entitled “Consistent Pressure to Compromise by Managing Director and Chairman, Zenon Oil and Gas, AP and Forte”. It reads: “My earlier report/discussion with you on the above subject matter and your directives refer. “I wish to inform you that I was on his invitation, at the residence of their(Zenon Oil and Gas, AP, Forte) Chairman, Mr. Femi Otedola in Maitama, (Aso Drive) this morning and he offered me the sum of One hundred thousand US dollars in two bundles of $50,000 each. The money is hereby forwarded as evidence. “Please find attached the exhibit for onward transmission to the relevant Committee and Leadership.”[/b] http://businessnews.com.ng/2012/06/12/lawan-never-took-any-bribe-from-otedola-informed-ig-of-police-promptly-of-bribery-attempt/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=lawan-never-took-any-bribe-from-otedola-informed-ig-of-police-promptly-of-bribery-attempt |
[b]Farouk Lawan released a statement on Sunday through which he denied accepting any bribe money from Femi Otedola to influence the subsidy report. The Chairman of the subsidy probe committee never denied taking $ 500,000 from oil baron Femi Otedola, he did however deny the existence of a videotape, largely because he never suspected its existence. The Femi Otedola story of “involving the SSS and Lawan initiating the bribe attempt” appear to be part of an intricately woven plot to discredit the House of Representatives report on Fuel subsidy. The presidency is in a predicament over implementing the report as it calls for the punishment of some of his senior aides and campaign contributors, including Femi Otedola, Diezani Madueke (Minister of Petroleum Resources) and Stella Odua (Minister of Aviation). Farouk Lawan reportedly informed the Chairman of the House Committee on Drugs/Narcotics and Financial Crimes, Adams Jagaban, about the bribe attempt, surrendering the $ 500,000 cash which consisted of ten bundles of mint $ 50,000, attached to a memo. The memo from Lawan to Jagaban partly reads, “You may please recall that I intimated you of the persistence of Mr. Femi Otedola, Chairman Forte Oil, Zenon Oil and AP Petroleum to offer monetary inducement to influence the outcome and Consolidation of the report of the Ad Hoc Committee on Petroleum Subsidy. “Attached (to the letter) is the sum of five hundred thousand dollars only offered to me with another promise of two million, five hundred thousand dollars. I had considered bringing this issue as a matter of privilege on the floor of the House later today when the House sits, but I am concerned the controversy it will generate will dwarf the content of the report which needs public attention so that the necessary reforms in the sector could be effected. “I however believe that given the desperation of Mr. Otedola, handling this matter in a furious but diplomatic manner is necessary as he has also made some vested threats which put me and members of my Committee in a delicate situation. “While reporting this matter to you and hoping that appropriate action will be taken, we shall continue to monitor him and if further offers are made, we shall duly handover to your committee.” The Acting Inspector General of Police, Mohammed Abubakar was also informed by the House of the bribery attempt by Femi Otedola, a member of the President’s economic management team. Based on the letter written to the IG on the bribery attempt, the police ordered a discreet investigation into the matter. Farouk Lawan informed the law enforcement bodies over two (2) months ago about the bribery attempts, indicating his innocence of collecting the money maliciously. It is however telling that although the Chairman of Forte Oil claimed to have involved the SSS early enough for them to conduct a sting operation, that there is no evidence of Lawan initiating the bribe proceedings. According to sources, Femi Otedola called Lawan’s phone over 50 times the night he was given the money. Secretary to the Ad Hoc Committee, Mr. B. C. Emenalo, also disclosed through a memo to Lawan another bribery attempt by Femi Otedola. The memo, entitled “Consistent Pressure to Compromise by Managing Director and Chairman, Zenon Oil and Gas, AP and Forte”. It reads: “My earlier report/discussion with you on the above subject matter and your directives refer. “I wish to inform you that I was on his invitation, at the residence of their(Zenon Oil and Gas, AP, Forte) Chairman, Mr. Femi Otedola in Maitama, (Aso Drive) this morning and he offered me the sum of One hundred thousand US dollars in two bundles of $50,000 each. The money is hereby forwarded as evidence. “Please find attached the exhibit for onward transmission to the relevant Committee and Leadership.”[/b] http://businessnews.com.ng/2012/06/12/lawan-never-took-any-bribe-from-otedola-informed-ig-of-police-promptly-of-bribery-attempt/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=lawan-never-took-any-bribe-from-otedola-informed-ig-of-police-promptly-of-bribery-attempt |
[b]Farouk Lawan released a statement on Sunday through which he denied accepting any bribe money from Femi Otedola to influence the subsidy report. The Chairman of the subsidy probe committee never denied taking $ 500,000 from oil baron Femi Otedola, he did however deny the existence of a videotape, largely because he never suspected its existence. The Femi Otedola story of “involving the SSS and Lawan initiating the bribe attempt” appear to be part of an intricately woven plot to discredit the House of Representatives report on Fuel subsidy. The presidency is in a predicament over implementing the report as it calls for the punishment of some of his senior aides and campaign contributors, including Femi Otedola, Diezani Madueke (Minister of Petroleum Resources) and Stella Odua (Minister of Aviation). Farouk Lawan reportedly informed the Chairman of the House Committee on Drugs/Narcotics and Financial Crimes, Adams Jagaban, about the bribe attempt, surrendering the $ 500,000 cash which consisted of ten bundles of mint $ 50,000, attached to a memo. The memo from Lawan to Jagaban partly reads, “You may please recall that I intimated you of the persistence of Mr. Femi Otedola, Chairman Forte Oil, Zenon Oil and AP Petroleum to offer monetary inducement to influence the outcome and Consolidation of the report of the Ad Hoc Committee on Petroleum Subsidy. “Attached (to the letter) is the sum of five hundred thousand dollars only offered to me with another promise of two million, five hundred thousand dollars. I had considered bringing this issue as a matter of privilege on the floor of the House later today when the House sits, but I am concerned the controversy it will generate will dwarf the content of the report which needs public attention so that the necessary reforms in the sector could be effected. “I however believe that given the desperation of Mr. Otedola, handling this matter in a furious but diplomatic manner is necessary as he has also made some vested threats which put me and members of my Committee in a delicate situation. “While reporting this matter to you and hoping that appropriate action will be taken, we shall continue to monitor him and if further offers are made, we shall duly handover to your committee.” The Acting Inspector General of Police, Mohammed Abubakar was also informed by the House of the bribery attempt by Femi Otedola, a member of the President’s economic management team. Based on the letter written to the IG on the bribery attempt, the police ordered a discreet investigation into the matter. Farouk Lawan informed the law enforcement bodies over two (2) months ago about the bribery attempts, indicating his innocence of collecting the money maliciously. It is however telling that although the Chairman of Forte Oil claimed to have involved the SSS early enough for them to conduct a sting operation, that there is no evidence of Lawan initiating the bribe proceedings. According to sources, Femi Otedola called Lawan’s phone over 50 times the night he was given the money. Secretary to the Ad Hoc Committee, Mr. B. C. Emenalo, also disclosed through a memo to Lawan another bribery attempt by Femi Otedola. The memo, entitled “Consistent Pressure to Compromise by Managing Director and Chairman, Zenon Oil and Gas, AP and Forte”. It reads: “My earlier report/discussion with you on the above subject matter and your directives refer. “I wish to inform you that I was on his invitation, at the residence of their(Zenon Oil and Gas, AP, Forte) Chairman, Mr. Femi Otedola in Maitama, (Aso Drive) this morning and he offered me the sum of One hundred thousand US dollars in two bundles of $50,000 each. The money is hereby forwarded as evidence. “Please find attached the exhibit for onward transmission to the relevant Committee and Leadership.”[/b] http://businessnews.com.ng/2012/06/12/lawan-never-took-any-bribe-from-otedola-informed-ig-of-police-promptly-of-bribery-attempt/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=lawan-never-took-any-bribe-from-otedola-informed-ig-of-police-promptly-of-bribery-attempt |
@emmasege Will u shut up and be patient. When did the bribery scandal became a public knowledge? wasnt it over this past weekend? wont they take their time to go through all these allegations and counter allegations before coming out to take a position. Some of u guys are simply pathetic |
Another view from a NL: bayooooooo: A Synopsis of Events: |
Umunede: Only God know how many names were omitted from the subsidy report because of they settled? Farouk Lawan messed up woefully.Exactly, some were omitted while some may have been put in there wrongfully. What stops the security agents from fine-tuning this report, investigate further and bring to justice those who truly and indeed are guilty. During the adoption of this report by the house, this was called for. That Nigerians were defrauded by a privilege few is a fact that cant be disputed. Who knows, after thorough investigation the 2 Trillion naira fraud will jump to 4 Trillion. i'm more interested in that than a 100Million naira bribery allegation (though this is also important)the FG is much more interested in. below is an extract of my post from another thread. [b]here are the undisputed facts: 1) Budgetary allocation (law of the land) for subsidy for the year 2011 was exceeded by over 900% with the express permission of the retardeen, my president thereby committing an impeachable offence. 2) Many of the beneficiaries of this subsidy fraud are financiers of the killer party, the PDP and the bulk of that money was used for the elections. 3)This administration is not in anyway interested in bringing to book those who has committed this crime against Nigerians because they know they themselves will be indicted. 4) The house of rep decided to investigate against the wish of the executives. have u ever wondered why the senate despite starting their own probe since Oct 2011 has still not submitted their own report till date? 5) During the presentation of the report to the house, Farouk claimed that his committee has done a good job but may not be perfect and asked the security agents to further investigate and bring culprits to book. the question is has the executive done anything about this? 6) The executives are more interested in bringing to public domain a bribery allegation of approx 100 Milion naira (which of cos is ok because Farouk may be guilty) than a confirmed trillions of naira monumental fraud perpetrated by their cronies. 7) This bribery allegation will probably go to court and months/years after, the case will be thrown out of court for lack of evidence therby literally killing this report with the main beneficiaries to be the "cabal".[/b] |
samkoro: Do u know the dynamics of merger.The merger itself with CPC will shake Action congress and some cross over to PDP .Some other parties will join PDP when the time comes.No one has monopoly of merger.Self aclaimed progressives merging with urepentant conservative CPC.That is why I say opposition is even worse.That merger simply means sovereign National Conference is no longer important.Kai action congress !!SNC is important and nothing can substitute that however merger and division of whatever sort is healthy in a democratic setting. What u stated up there may happen or may not. Some may even decide to leave and form their own parties. have u factored in that? Nothing is wrong in merging, it will only strengthen the democratic process IMO |
Chai, when will the retardeen, my president start commissioning projects that are directly paid for by the FG? On democracy day when governors like Fashola were commissioning state sponsored projects that will be beneficial to the populace my own presido dey inaugurate/commission energy bulbs. na wa oo Good for dangote but when will cement price come down |
^^^^ I agree |
The only way to cure this nation off corruption, is to totally uproot the system, tear up the current constitution and write one that is based on true federalism. That is the only way we can have accountability, every other approach is a waste of energy.Exactly, but is the Retardeen, my president interested in doing this at all. of cos, the answer is No. he is interested in making sure the status quo remains. he is definately part of our current problem. |
BetaThings: I don't make points without reason, no matter how tempting it isWao, i can still remember this vividly. This otedola is a criminal oooo. can the words of a criminal like Otedola be admisible in a law court? |
pyx: many fools will comments and send cabals to jail with the tips of their fingers. How many of such probe has led to jail if not for a loud noise and later to die down. Forget it Nogeria is like a home Video where you watch different types of films produced in Alaba just to raise your emotion and give some foolish Newspaper Proprietors' money. The people in Government like to keep us busy will all these stuffs.u have a good point and before we know it the "Cabals" will be the main beneficiary. Those criminals that made us pay more than 900% above the budgetary allocation for subsidy will never be brought to book. |
[b]@ noblezone we dont need any Farouk report to indict the president. he already has been indicted by his decisions. here are the undisputed facts: 1) Budgetary allocation (law of the land) for subsidy for the year 2011 was exceeded by over 900% with the express permission of the retardeen, my president thereby committing an impeachable offence. 2) Many of the beneficiaries of this subsidy fraud are financiers of the killer party, the PDP and the bulk of that money was used for the elections. 3)This administration is not in anyway interested in bringing to book those who has committed this crime against Nigerians because they know they themselves will be indicted. 4) The house of rep decided to investigate against the wish of the executives. have u ever wondered why the senate despite starting their own probe since Oct 2011 has still not submitted their own report till date? 5) During the presentation of the report to the house, Farouk claimed that his committee has done a good job but may not be perfect and asked the security agents to further investigate and bring culprits to book. the question is has the executive done anything about this? 6) The executives are more interested in bringing to public domain a bribery allegation of approx 100 Milion naira (which of cos is ok because Farouk may be guilty) than a confirmed trillions of naira monumental fraud perpetrated by their cronies. 7) This bribery allegation will probably go to court and months/years after, the case will be thrown out of court for lack of evidence therby literally killing this report with the main beneficiaries to be the "cabal".[/b] |
^^^^ I tire oooo. i will be the first to stone farouk if i see such |
samkoro: I disagree, not anything.What we want is a better alternative and not a any worse alternative like tribal and jihadist organisation.U know CPC has the Arrow Symbol just to represent jihad.If you want to know if Action congress and CPC can win PDP just tour round the country and stop thinking that action congress is were Nigeria begins and ends.i have no issues with ur disagreement. My only issues is the lies u concocted afterwards, anyway its allowed. u arent the first and wont be the last. The coming together of both ACN and CPC wil definately shake the killer party to its marrows no doubt. |
eGuerrilla: A tad curious that the paper's editor gets eased around at the same time we are presented with a wobbly tale, which forms the basis of this thread...Besides, Nduka is 100% pdp, the killer party itself. |
jamp: [size=14pt]what is the government waiting forExactly, this will suggest to u that nduka is just playing ball with his published story. Besides efcc has denied receiving any "fideo ". All this to me for now is an attempt to kill the report. The retardeen is devilishly wise no doubt. |
Olalekan 0: All nairalanders in support of Farouk are all fools. What do you mean by "the cabals are fighting back"? Do you think the cabal would rely on a doctored or fake video to expose farouk in a national matter of this magnitude? The guy collected the money abeg!U seem to have seen this "Fideo". just one quetion abegii. is it in black and white or coloured? |
[quote author=Dudu_Negro]You are nitpicking it narrowly. Respected, smartest, confident, solid, favorite,. . . these are all narrow definitions! My point is Tinubu is politically savvy but that's inherent amongst Yoruba politicians. . . it's a cultural thing and not individual. Our smartest politician will have a do or die attitude about Yoruba commonwealth, an attribute that Tinubu does not possess.[/quote]well, i see it differently. one may be respected but not smart. A case study is the former AD govs that were uprooted by PDP years ago. Tinubu despite his ills is both respected and smart no doubt. |
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