₦airaland Forum

my hubby u didnt have to send that txt btw missing u a lot,i mean plenty.i had to get something to eat before boarding the bus. . then i'll call you. . .

i guess she forgot sogbo. .
love you babe.

nothing!
kiloni moshe?

same here,u and not ur profile. . .

why are you laughing omoeko,is it funny? lol

baby going undrground to get a train give me 20min will be back up.thank you love an pls reply to. . . . .

dont mind her joooo. . .shes only jealous of wot wev got. . .and btw she cant have me jo,me and you ni

omo eko,wud dere eva be any difference in your profile. . .same old profile. . .lol

Omo Eko:
@topic
Soji

Islander and cuteass

omomi i miss u too jooooo. . . .and wetin be this gurl own sef,why wud i wana go on strike?

pilgrim.1:
@desodgi,

Secondly, thanks for answering the second question. I agree with you that Luke 3:22 was rather pointing to the fact that the Holy Spirit assumed the shape of a dove when He descended upon Jesus. But Pastor Chris said that was not correct at all. Rather, he said that the verse did not teach that the Holy Spirit descended in the form of a dove, but rather ina figure.

What that figure was, he did not say throughout the message.

do expect to hear everything from preachers they are only there to lead you on how to know what you already have. . .more reason i said get a reference bible and not a newspaper bible.

your post was:
Let's try and understand something. That you don't find Him named in the OT as Jesus doesn't mean that He didn't exist before being born in the NT as man. When He became Man, the angel announced that He would be named "Jesus" (Luke 1:31).

He existed but was not man,he existed as the word of God. The word in flesh is named Jesus,do you get it?


Your second post was:
Again, I believe that when the Psalmist mentioned the Son, that revelation already indicates that the Son Himself already existed, otherwise the Psalmist would not have made any reference to Him as such (Psa. 2:12).

The son didnt exist in the Old testament.If the psalmist didnt make mention of him as the son in the old testament,would you believe there would later be a son?
He had to make mention of him so that we will believe when the revelation comes into manifestation. . .that was why john said "he became man and we beheld his glory"
cos he(son) was talked about in the old testament doesnt mean he was already born,the psalmist talked about things to come.understand?


Your 3rd post was :
Well, I'd say this: Jesus was already manifested in the world long before He was born. He was the very one called "the Angel of the LORD"; and in several instances, He had manifested Himself in the world long before the NT.


How can Jesus be the angel of the lord in the old testament,the angel only came to say what God asked him to say and what he heard was the word of God.
If Jesus was the angel of God in the old testament,so who is the angel of god in the new testament when the bible said In Matt. 4:11 " Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him."


and let me make u understand this better when u said in Micah 5:2 -- "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting

when he said whose goings forth have been from of old,from everlasting. . .it simply means the word of God. Jesus is the word of God made flesh,he is the word that wore flesh for our sake. . .dont you get it?
In the old testament he wasnt Jesus but the word that came forth out from God himself unto them (unbelievers)that are in the old testament through them (believers)that preach in the old testament. . . .get it now?

well am not suprise you didnt  understand.But what i'll love to tell you to listen to it again, pray before listening, and use a very good reference bible.

And again let me see if i can help with your first qwestion "Is it the indwelling of the Holy Spirit or the baptism with the Holy Spirit?" How can the spirit take his dwelling in you without u been baptised of the spirit. .You get the baptism of the holy spirit first before he takes his dominion inside you(and its all by faith)

secondly "the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him"?
A dove  has a bodily shape of a bird doesnt it,the holy spirit came in a bodily form of a dove(its by faith,accept it). . its as simple as that. . .theres one thing i know and its that The more you study Gods word with his spirit u'll expand your awareness of the simplicity that is in Christ.


but i just want to say something that has nothing to do with what u asked.

People don't know that to be a preacher you have to be wealthy. Jesus Christ was so wealthy when he walked the face of this earth,that even when he died the roman soldiers had to cast lot to get his designer clothing. . . . . .Mhn am the best of my kind.

pilgrim.1:
@adesodgi,

Now I can understand better where you were coming from. However, I'm convinced that Jesus always existed both as the Word and Son of God - even in the OT.

Remember Prov. 30:4? "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?" The one thing to note is that people in the OT could not relate directly with the Son because He had not been revealed or manifested for our redemption as we read in the NT.

Again, the Psalmists says: "Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." (Psalm 2:12). This is a prophetic Psalm, and no doubt the subject in whom people were to put their trust was the Son.

What did I mean by my statement earlier that ?

Well, the fact is that the Trinity had always existed - Father, Son, Holy Spirit. If the Son did not exist all through time, there would be no Trinity. He has always been the Son and the Word.

Am still on the fact that there was no Jesus in the old testament. . .
1st . The psalmist would only talk about tyhe son thru revelation,they speak according to revelation that hasnt bin manifested.

2nd .1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

3rd. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[d] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

In the new testament,he became flesh. . .He was named jesus when he became flesh,when he was with God there was nothing like jesus.

Again 1 John 5:7 (King James Version)says : For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

verse 8 says: And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


He had to be a man to operate in the world and has to be named JESUS.

Am out. . .

clubs

32

money? so

blue heavens. . .

african design

man united

wetin be that^?

30

u happen to be in the best position to knw,are we?

what convection?

well i guess u need to try better. .

coach

duh the topic says guess tha NL members age. . it obviously yours na. . . .

i am na,but needeeg seems not to.Or is he?

meaning?

countries

29

carry the world on your head and u'll know wot a hectic headache is all about. . . .

duh. . mine aint the first and wont be tha last or can it?