₦airaland Forum

SpaceTour:
What you are saying is absolutely rubbish. Anambra needs not just an airport but an international airport. Anambra has carve a niche for itself as the economic hub of the SE without seaport nor airport. Now the economy of Anambra is moving from commerce to industrialisation. Now there is a new development in ATK that will be linked to the airport when completed.

With the Onitsha Port and Anambra International airport, then the entire east is good to go.

Stop being overtly emotional about this. I will stop now because they said you are chino.

LasGidiOwner:
Then what is Imo state supposed to be doing? What do you need airport for when you are not an economically viable state? Onitsha on the other hand has rose to become the largest commercial center in West Africa, Nnewi has also grown to be the auto city with some vehicle manufacturing centers, Awka has been growing as the fastest developing city east of the Niger.

Now tell us what your Imo state has been doing to develop Owerri, Orlu and Okigwe to be real cities? What does Imo state actually needs an airport for when the state barely have roads? Do you have jobs in Imo state? What does Imo state needs airport for when the state does not have any form of economic presence?

Let us tell ourselves the truth, only Anambra, and maybe Abia to some extent that truly needs an airport in the SE. Anambra with the largest population in the SE needs at least 2 airports(One domestic and one International). Thank goodness that Anambra has since kicked off the construction of its own airport.

The problem is not what imo state is doing with their airport. The problem is what igbos are not doing with imo airports. We should stop this attitude that imo state airport is for imo state people alone. With the right agreements, the whole of igboland should benefit from the cargo airport built in the state.

Moreover, it is not the fault of imo that anambra did not look into the building of airport all these years. With rising economic needs, the airport in anambra should as a matter of urgency stalled and money diverted into more fruitful pursuits that will earn us more than what we are earning at the moment.

Anambra has failed to look into its comparative advantage and expand on it. Alibaba, Amazon and the Walmart are all concepts of basic buying and selling that the western world has modernized and making billions of dollars from. China currently has the biggest mall in the world and it generates billions of dollars yearly. Onitsha is strategically located and can stand firmly as a very good substitute to lock-jammed lagos due to ease of business but we have stopped tapping on the 70million-plus market that skip onitsha and still run to lagos.

I am not saying the people are not trying but we can do better and key into this modernization. We can provide 500,000 jobs without even trying if we can plan the economy well.

LasGidiOwner:
No sir. This is are all independent federating units. It is no longer a regional system where run things that way. Airports are for economically viable states and nothing more. It is built to support businesses and economy generally. So any state can embark on an airport project as its priority to boost its economy.

Like the ongoing Anambra airport project is hinged on commercial sale of ATK wired via Orient refinery, huge industrial, commercial and agricultural produce. I read recently about Ebonyi starting on. So eventually all the states will have an airport, but what will happen is that some will not be as busy as others.

So let every state continue with their own development trajectory in a way that will suit them.

Tell yourself the truth, Ebonyi is supposed to be working on its comparative advantage (agriculture and solid minerals) than working on any airport. Anambra supposed to be working on revamping onitsha, nnewi and awka to be real cities than building an airport. Onitsha needs a better commercial look than what we are seeing now. Onitsha needs to show that it has been there since the early 40's till now. Onitsha is not supposed to still operate with the local market I keep seeing all over the internet. Nnewi should be wearing the look of an industrial city. Industrial estates should be seen everywhere by now. Industrial museum. Technological schools that can help with start-ups.

We keep thinking and acting like local champions and we are not seeing that the world is not even going our direction. We must sit down and redraft the direction we want to go so that our businesses will have the kind of growth we are praying for.

pazienza:
What could we have done better to avoid the post 2015 challenges we faced?

https://www.nairaland.com/3434857/federal-government-leaves-out-south

We could have seen the ripples before the tsunami came. The major backers of jonathan were leaving him but stood by him because he was one of the descendants of azikiwe. We keep failing in making pragmatic decisions when it comes to the collective future of our people. If we had supported Buhari who had looked for us more than 3-times, we would not have been in this situation.

The bottom line is this, we should have at least shared the votes like the westerners did and have a bargaining chip in our hands but we have been crying and showing the world our red buttocks. I will advise igbos to vote in Buhari because he is going to win the next election. And this time, he will be more ruthless than he is in this first tenure. We need to be more serious about our future than our people getting positions in government.

LasGidiOwner:
All the states should have airports but the one in PH is serving the international airhub for the SE and SS

It is economically wrong building what you do not need. Why are we building airports when we have not finished using the ones that are already in existence. The imo and enugu airports in the east today are enough for the number of economic activities we have now. If it increases, then we can open new airports in anambra and ebonyi state.

We have not been having serious discussions here when things are really going south. Ndigbo should be looking at focusing on important areas of our economies and expand strategically. In telecommunications and ICT today, there are boundless opportunities that we should be looking at. With evolving 5G network all over the world, the chinese are calling all their experts in africa to come back learn the technology so as to continue expanding their influence all over africa and eastern asia.

Igbos should stop playing local and hateful politics and focus on the right things that will help us in the future. Even with our high HDI, we do not have the right skillful population to push the agenda of igbos forward but we keep arguing about airports that will still show low patronage in the nearest future with the kind of development we are advertising here.

OMANBALA1:
I am saying that as long as the South East is divided into states AIIA will not thrive, Enugu is not a business hub. That airport should be made local, its logical. You can scream Enugu is the capital of Igbo land all you want but it wont change the design of the town. Most of these people championing and,pushing Enugu down our throats are those born or school there. People like myself, Obiano ,Okoye brothers(Psquare), Mikel Obi has no affinity to Enugu. I love Plateau state where I was born and raised more than Enugu. I dont want to fly to Enugu, it doesnt appeal to me.

You cant divert all the traffics to AIIA because it doesn't offer the same options. Be reasonable for a second, the business hub in the East favors PH airport for obvious reasons ,but what is the attraction to Enugu. The only airport that will compete with PH is Umuleri

Since you have decided to be stupid. Everyone should allow you to wallow in your stupidity. What is wrong in having an international airport 1hr 45mins from your house. People living on the island in lagos take more than 2hours to get their homes from Ikeja. But your plan to be stupid really opens your dirty buttocks outside. We try to breed unity amongst our people but people like you will just jump into threads to pour sand into it.

What is economical about anambra that enugu cannot meet and surpass? the recent igr of enugu was even bigger than that from anambra but you make nonsense boast over nothing.

pazienza:
Enugu, Ebonyi, Anambra, Imo will all have airport.
The main aim is to make sure no Igbo man uses Airport outside SE when coming to Igboland from abroad.
This also mean that PH international airport can only serve Ijaw and Bini people and not Ndiigbo, as we are too big a people to be wagged by a minority group like Ijaw-Ikwerres.
So those impostors here can cry all the want, but it changes nothing. Igbo traffic must be diverted away from Ph to international airports in Alaigbo. Once we do this, the traffic in AIIA will be too much that the proposed airports in Anambra, Ebonyi and other parts of Igboland will suddenly become a necessity.

So, first thing first. Ph international airport must be made to serve SS people for whom it was built for.
Ndiigbo already have one International airport in Enugu, and several other ones are in the pipeline.

I find it funny that we are building airports because we are trying not to use our neighbour's planes.

Isn't it funny to you?

InyinyaAgbaOku:
So, it's now up to Igbos to work on themselves before others identity with them? What have they worked on themselves to make you chase after them, both individually and as a group?
So as Igbos start working on themselves , Ikwerres can be claiming to originate from Bini , and by the time we are through with developing ourselves(whatever that means) , they will suddenly lose the Bini heritage and finally have Igbo ancestors once again? Some of you joke for a living.

FYI, Igbo people will always do well for themselves just for the sake of it. Those of you that will do well just to get the recognition of people that aren't worth shit themselves . Enough of these esteem issues. I don't even know what's so special about that group that's making some of you run mad, people that hate you in addition!

I care less about the ikwerres but we also have a chunk of the blame. We talk and act as if we have been the saint since the coming of Jesus. Our major blame is the fact that we have only come up individually and not as a people. We have stopped wielding the power and respect we once had. It is not the fault of the ikwerres that our politicians have been playing the patient and second fiddle game. Even in the last days of GEJ, very few were identifying with him. This is the case of the igbo people. If we keep playing the side game and want people in the advantage positions to identify with us, then you are just being emotional.

I am not saying that when we get it right, we should go and call ikwerres to join us. I absolutely no, but the onus is on us to get our acts right devoid of other igboid groups trying to play smart with our identity. This country is jungle and every group is looking for the best ways to survive. If it is to renounce your parents, many people do that if the parents cannot provide for the child.

We should stop being emotional about rational issues. Let us get ourselves together and forge a strong political and economic front. This will go a long way to save us from many insults that might come from different angles in the near future.

[quote author=GworoChewinMaga post=72101963][/quote]Mr, since you said in the previous thread that you are not igbo, please steer clear of igbo affairs please. Stop jamming the heads of igbos against everybody in Nigeria just to push your own personal agenda. I beg you in the name of God, steer clear of igbo affairs.

Thank you.

BeautifulMind2:
Serious I'm shocked over your hate comments on Peter Obi and you are from Anambra state I use to respect your views, I never knew you are this hateful, no matter what he did to you or your family, I believe you are Christian and pray for forgiveness, you joined with enemies to rubbish Peter Obi's name, what ever bad you do to other will surely come to you in 100.

He even created a thread to publish his hatred on Obi. I find it hard to comment on nairaland because I find many of these people more emotional than rational. They only support anything that sweetens their minds without thinking of the consequences therein.

I bet he is still a young man exuding youthful exuberance in politics and does not know the consequences of talking too much. The so called kano people have not come out to behead ganduje for collecting kickbacks since yesterday but these guys keep causing rancor all over the public space. They will soon learn the hard way.

No wonder this dolt has started working on M/M way and other roads in kano. He has been threatened prior to the release of these videos. These men are really God-forsaken idiots seriously.

superlightning:
I agree that we have to start with the areas that identifies with us first. however, I am also saying that it doesn't still change the fact that port Harcourt is alaigbo for posterity sake. that's just my standpoint.

Now, I get. I love that.

superlightning:
See eh, igwuocha is igboland. Stick to your approach in dealing with them, let me stick to mine. I know exactly where am hinging on. If ikwerre today as a group said they are not Igbo, then so be it.
However, it won't stop me from accepting those among them who sincerely identify with us as Igbo. I won't reject them. I know some of them.

You might not like the what pazienza is saying basically because it does not support your IPOB agenda. I fully understand your stand point and like the ikwerres, it will be difficult to erase even with myriad of evidence coming from that angle that those people do not like us. Ikwerres are having this strong belief of recent of a unified Niger delta that will cover their lapses in the event of restructuring or eventual division of this country. Why? The whole of Niger delta can boast of oil and sea access which will help boost economic activities in their area and judging from the number of oil companies they already have, they have something to offer the other groups based oil-based industrialization.

We igbos can only boast of individualistic achievements. To them, we couldn't save them in the 60's and as it stands now we cannot save them in 2018. The south south has a bargaining chip but we do not. They cannot follow us based on a pipe-dream that has not gotten any form yet. You have to understand them. They need to continually present themselves as ikwerre so that they continuously get from the south south and stay relevant in the region. It will be difficult for you to change that because you are not offering anything better than what they are getting.

We igbos need to work on ourselves. We are being dragged and neglected by the people who should naturally align with us. If we fail to start seeing reality the way it is, then I have to say I am sorry to you all. The southeast should start developing the areas that identify with igbos now and let others follow later. We cannot stop thinking and working because ikwerre and other subgroups refuses to align with us. It does not make any sense.

nnamdijonathan:
Why would he claim Igbo before? Who doesn't love his own ethnic group? The guy is the best person I have ever seen in any Igbo thread, such an unbiased fellow and goes straight to the point without getting emotional or sectional. I'm sure some of you might have tagged him "Afonja" by now.

I just do not want to comment on your irrational applause. The system he keeps talking about is the system that demeans individual development and push for herds mentality. I have been to these places he claims to have had a system of organized government and I can tell you that I prefer the igbo minds than those bunch. I have been to almost all the states in the country and the neighbouring country, these herds mentality using a central religious and political leader has made them lazy and lack the ability to think for themselves. The only ones making headway are the ones that have the history of being related to the elites or being favoured by the emirates since the time immemorial. If you venture come from outside to preach something else, they crush you and make you insignificant.

This is a case-study of the kano/kaduna christians. They are basically the educated bunch due to what christianity brings with it. With all their education, they do not get jobs and they are not considered in their political hemisphere. They are somewhat ostracized.

You need to understand that even though the igbos seem to be divided with personal opinions. It has brought out the individual capabilities of its people. We only need to work on the ability to come together and work for a particular political and economic pursuit. The only thing that can bring igbos together is ideology and not singular leadership. This is what is pushing Israel, USA and China forward. They believe in a kind of ideology that they are the superior race and the come together to fashion a way to bring the whole world. That is positive step and not uthman dan fodio and the other people system of leadership.

Ozibe:
https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=Y7kwDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=have+a+greater+likelihood+than+others+do+of+becoming+victims+of+violence.+political+threat,+in+large+part,+responsible+for+the+repeated+attacks+on+ibo+and+the+absence+of+attacks+on+the+Yoruba+in+northern+Nigeria.+Target-Group+Characteristics&source=bl&ots=khkzjESlAx&sig=jM_2xYRkdtIz-cz4gcofdlkDgvU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwibq5S0sfHdAhXuxoUKHXRlBfYQ6AEwAHoECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q=have%20a%20greater%20likelihood%20than%20others%20do%20of%20becoming%20victims%20of%20violence.%20political%20threat%2C%20in%20large%20part%2C%20responsible%20for%20the%20repeated%20attacks%20on%20ibo%20and%20the%20absence%20of%20attacks%20on%20the%20Yoruba%20in%20northern%20Nigeria.%20Target-Group%20Characteristics&f=false

Thank you very much. This is helpful

superlightning:
Lol.....my sister you know that the Yoruba and Hausa can set aside their differences just to fight the Igbo. So it tells you that when the shit hits the fan, its all against Igbo. Yoruba and Hausa are bedmates.

It seems you are too scared to act. You are always paying attention to what outsiders think than what people in your home think about you. This is very disheartening.

Ozibe:
Bros this is similar to what was written by scholars, about target groups. The igbos too are a target group hence, it was easy for the north to use the coup as an excuse to exterminate the igbos.

As much as I understand @bebe2u's point as regarding ironsi and ojukwu's management of the crisis leading to the civil war, I still disagree with him because, had ironsi handed Nzeogwu to the north, it won't still please them. We all remember that igbos have been massacred in the north as far back as 1945 and 1953

What is the title of this book and where can i get it?

pazienza:
Why should we fight for restructuring? What do we stand to gain from restructured Nigeria. I have heard Many Igbos parrot this restructuring, and I had quried them and sort to reason with them. In the end, I found out most Igbos don't exactly understand the implications of restructured Nigeria.

Now let me break it down for us.

If restructured Nigeria mean every region get to control it's resources ie resource control . With the brazen manner in which Igbo crude oil bearing parts were stripped and added to SS, while parts of old Bendel oil bearing villages were added to Ondo, what exactly are we going to gain in such Nigeria.

The SW already cornered the Sea and Air hub, and I suppose this restructured Nigeria would still have FG retain some power, which means they could yet frustrate many of our would be plans like reviving our airports to international standards and building of river ports, power generation and all worth not. Yes, I know we have huge untapped natural gas reserves, but those would take years to develop and better done in an independent Igbo nation.

Restructured Nigeria would benefit mainly SW and SS in the interim so let them fight for it, while we channel our energy towards useful ventures.


I also agree we must avoid fighting another war with Nigeria. We must be patient and bid our time. We can't fight Nigeria, we have no allies. Those down South are still eyeing our property and investments, likewise the rest of Nigeria. Wike and Rivers state recently celebrated Rivers state 50yrs anniversary, where Gowon was named after their stadium and dignitaries were invited all over North and SW, with non from Igboland.
We must bid our time, we have no allies.

The SS needs Nigeria disintegrated more than us, they are the ones whose crude oil is bring depleted and shared by all, and in return are being left with destroyed environment which would need billions of dollars to clean up in the future.
Meanwhile, their crude oil reserves are not infinite, Oloibiri no longer produce a single drop of oil, worst still, the world is moving towards clean energy. Technological advancements are being made everyday on Solar energy, Wind energy, sea waves energy, nuclear energy and other forms of clean energy, give it 30yrs or a bit more, and the world would start placing embargo on use of pollution generating energy sources like crude oil, which would further decrease its financial profitability.
Bottomline is that they are the ones in urgent need of independence/resource control, if they must profit from their crude oil reserves, time is running out for them, and if they decide to sit and do nothing, then we must find a way to put our own share of their crude oil national cake allocations to good use, by electing better leaders.

We would be naive to be expending or dissipating our energy to hand it over to them, while all they had ever done is deride and mock our own struggles, which they stand to profit from.
Freedom is a patience business, take a look at Catalonia and how long they had sought for independence from Spain, yet at each point in time, they avoid being provoked to war, being mindful of all they had built back home and how Madrid would relish to reduce them to square one.
Time is endless, we must be patient, lest we lose more. We must not accept attempts by Nigerian groups to becloud our sense of reality and present us with the illusion that we need independence from Nigeria as a matter of Urgency, because we don't.

apt, very apt!

Chri08102702694:
He said, she said. Has the FG completed the 2nd Niger bridge even after giving you dates from time to time? Obiano said 3yrs, and I sure it may not likely be exactly 3yrs. My mind is between 4-5yrs. We need to be realistic most time.

Okay, let us keep being hopeful. When last did you get any information about the project? I know you stay in the state and you must have a thing or two about it.

What is the recent update on the automotive city in Nnewi that Osinbajo and co came to inaugurate?

AnambraDota:
They are not playing with anybody's head, we all know the airport project was a ruse.
I was never played, we enlightened and logical ones know from the onset that Obiano is high on his own horseshit.

This is true. The budget for the project was very huge for the state government to pull it off. Even for a PPP project, the amount is still very high to get anything out of the project. He really played ndi-anambra well to get his second term.

omadeltason:
i love obiano style he don't want to rush the project.

He said the project will take 3-4years for completion. This is a year now and we have not seen anything about it. I really wish that airport will be a reality because the hype has been much.

Chri08102702694:
The only way you can believe whatever is happening there is one you visit there yourself. Please find time to come and pay a visit.

My kind of work makes it difficult for me to come down. I feel pained about it because there are many projects I want to do in the state but I have not been opportune to come around. I bet you, if i find myself in the state, I will spend my whole going to all these places I am seeing this thread. I will really love to go round.

omadeltason:
I dey tell you my brother Anambra have good things but to maintain am na wahala. if onitsha is clean onitsha will even more finer than Europe.

Why is it that house owners in anambra state only paint their houses just after construction of the structure. What will it take them to paint these houses at least every two years? More so, the color of the paints are always dull. They could get some examples from other areas and paint their homes to have a better aesthetic look. I wish we can pay attention to details in the state and make it more livable than it is.

Chri08102702694:
Is the picture coming from govt that that's the airport project? Why not go to the site to know exactly the level of work at the project site. Or is the site not in Nigeria?

If I was in the state, I would have gone there myself to check the ruse myself. Since you stay in the state, please do well and get us pictures.

omadeltason:
nkpor this morning please oo am asking what is asaba transport buses and keke dey do IN upper iweka have they finished operating in onitsha what are they doing in upper iweka

If only the house owners can paint those houses and the government redesign the roundabout. This would have looked like europe.

omadeltason:
at list the cargo international airport project still dey go on.

After almost a year this is what you can get for us? Why are these people playing with our heads for crying out loud?

Obi1kenobi:
Anambra certainly has the potential to generate a lot more in IGR, but many of you overhype its clout. Rivers, Ogun, Kano, and even our neighbors Delta are bigger economies than Anambra. Stop the claim that Anambra is "2nd to Lagos" with no statistics to back it up.

Even the onitsha market is bigger than benin city. I do not understand how the IGR of edo state is bigger than anambra state IGR. Someone is not saying the truth or our tax system is really whack.

raker300:
Awka

Look at the virgin land where whatever you think you want to do can be done without too much thoughts to it. We are really not doing the right thing in this part of the world. You will still see people going there to develop real estates that are very close to the major roads. We need to correct these mistakes.

nnamdijonathan:
Azumini seaport is closer to the ocean than the onne seaport while the Onitsha river port will be used as a backup to support import and export activities. The Azumini river channel can be our own Swizz canal and there will be no need to use the seaports in any state in the SS. We currently have 3 international airports in Asaba, Enugu and Owerri of which 2 are cargo airports while we have Umueri airport under construction, as we speak, Onitsha and Aba are more commercial than Port Harcourt, if not for the taxes paid by oil companies, port Harcourt's IGR wouldn't have been higher than those of Onitsha and Aba. Owerri's tourism potential is bigger than that of all the cities in the SS, so why exactly do some people want to kill themselves because of the denial of the so-called rivers Igbo people?

The day you lose your hand on akwa ibom seaport, the day we all seal our doom.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
And how many SE problems have Anioma solved aside denying them even when not asked ?

Which bigger problem aside more denials? Abeg

EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN UP

One thing I believe many of you do not want to work on is to try and lure them back into the fold. I believe many of you just want the easy way out and remedy your headaches asap. I will love some of you to take the long route. This route involves you all enumerating ways in which we can solve the problem by finally bringing them back into the fold. I do not care about the past, what i care about is the future and we can remedy the past by really correcting the mistakes of the past and redesigning the future in such a way that we all will benefit.

I believe the youths of nowadays are always of the opinion of throwing away bad water or locking taps where the water flows slowly without exercising a level of patience in making dirty water clean or making the water run faster. I believe we can achieve anything we set our minds towards and there is no way we cannot achieve the aim of correcting the past and winning the future.

We as big brother igbos have so much blames too. We have not won any battle since after the war. We are not the beautiful bride we all want to be. Ikwerre land is the capital of rivers state and enjoys a sort of government patronage, anioma land is the capital of delta state and enjoys a sort of government patronage. As we stand now, what do we have to give them that will make them want to upset their seemingly advantageous balance for our own utopia? We all need to not be emotional about issues and look at the world from an open mind. Even in politics, they stand a better position in both power-blocs (APC and PDP) but we keep offering less and beating our chest that we are the big brothers.

We all should swallow our pride and work on ourselves. These people do not have anywhere to go if you look at it from a futuristic point of view. What do the binis have to give them? Do you think the Ijaw will lose a sleep for the ikwerres? The singular direction of their interest will surely be eastwards. But the funniest part is that, the easterners are not even moving eastwards too.