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DOZIEX!!! my man! Long time! Always frank and straight to the point. No time for unnecessary bickering.
Its sickening how we use our military. Very quick to use the military to shut down anti-government views and populism while they keep mum in the face of external aggression. Cameroon and Chad, we know. Even Benin Rep forces had an incursion across our western border last year, and there was no response from us. Not even a peep from the MOD, DHQ. Nothing.
So much could have been done over many years and so much more could be done now with what we have, but hey, they prefer some of the most infantile and ridiculous operations: Op Python dance, Cat Race, Crocodile Smile and all sorts of nonsense.

doziex:
Gentlemen, Paul Biya and Idrys deby have been spoiling for a fight with nigeria for some time now.

This aggressive francophone posture,while officially doing business with nigeria comes from the top. Not junior overly ambitious officers.

PMB, general buratai and the Nigerian congress should please wake up to this threat

We cannot control what the francophonies and the French do but we can control our own actions.

QUIT the ostrich mentality, and re equip our armed forces for potential war

They are driving up their Chinese made apcs to scare our border guards because they know that ours are in disrepair, sputtering in the north east or in boko harams junk yard.

Corruption and a poor national security orientation has conspired to bring us to this lowly state we find ourselves

Only a very effective, all encompassing military build up/ spending would reverse our current humiliating state.

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKotJTc8o5I

slimthugchimee2:
help me with another YouTube lino to watch the video...that Twitter link refuses to work for me

Lovely. Hopefully it wont be susceptible to hacking, they should have this in mind.
Next step, an armed version.

Henry240:
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Oga, no be only money be we problem o, plenty mismanagement and inefficiencies dey our side well well.
Believe me, with what we have in our arsenal, we could have dealt BHT a decisive blow a long time ago if the "commanding officers" had the right b boldness, skills, knowledge and experience. By now, the only oyibo training we for require na for very advanced systems, no be dem go train us for COIN and basic soldiering. See as herdmen dey kill people up and down, abi oyibo suppose train us to handle that wan again, abi dem need buy 10 JF17 to neutralize the threat? As dem no wan do anything, wait and see how this threat will grow and spread.

tdayof:
Abi make we deploy some soldiers to fight on behalf of Saudi so we can be receiving some billions too


Egypt has huge military aides.

Funny how glaring incompetence and tribalism stares us all in the face, all around us, and some come out here to support it. Too bad.

Ibrahimanis:
From the article "He alleged that Mr. Abubakar failed examinations preceding his appointment."
Like I said earlier "alleged". And how did he know all these, NIA reports only to the president and is the most secretive organization in all security agencies in Nigeria. He might be right (after all this is Nigeria) but from the known facts, the current NIA DG is qualified.

And Of course it has to be Isah Misau. The same senator who said there is a conspiracy to remove the Senate President.
The same senator who was docked for bribery.
The same senator who was charged to court for forgery.
The same senator who said the IGP sleeps with policewomen.
The most controversial senator after Oga Dino. "sigh" really?

Damn, I am enjoying myself. I think I should go back and study law, I just keep debunking whatever you came up with. Bring it on bro.

Thank you Mike. So many things we take for granted in Nigeria.

MikeCZA:
Rotate people!!!!!!!!

Also why isn't the police force heavily involved in the COIN OPS?

And why aren't people outraged by the casualties?

@jteku and tdayo Very likely so
However, I've enlarged that specific area repeatedly and couldn't see any familiar numeral. You'll also notice punctuation marks underneath the figures, so not likely English language.
Anyway, what do I know, I rest the matter.

jteku:
Don't think that is Arabic, or is she the first police officer u've seen, am standing by 3 officers now and nothing like Arabic.

Kindly excuse my ignorance...
But when did Arabic become the official comms language of the Nigeria Police?
Maybe I'm mistaken or not seeing this properly?

Following up your question, the greater issue to be discussed is "cleaning the augean stables" before focusing on uniforms

jteku:
Which of the NPF uniform fit the most and should be adobted.

Lol, like they never spied on Nigeria and don't know where all our assets and bases are located?

Whyem15:
Let the proper spying on Nigeria begin

Well Algerian, just like you, a lot of things make us curious and wonder about certain decisions in our country.

Algerian1:
Curious to know why nigerians havnt bought the military X , EHF , UHF transponders to for nigeriasat 2 and 3 , its the same satellite base , same chinese compagny and i m sur cost would not rise a lot and will give nigerian army a huge advantage for drones mal , aircrafts , datalink military operation inside and outside nigeria ect.. And this satelittes have 15 years minimum service life

News to my ears. Only if one could give 10 likes!

Henry240:
Yeah, the guys in Gambia were rocking NMT vests.

Nothing can be more enjoyable than the fact that Nigerian soldiers are rocking locally made protective gear, in a locally built LAV, using locally made radios and using locally built firearms. Unimaginable forex we will save.

@newafricaken, What military equipment was/were received from Jordan during this exercise?

newafricaken254:
KDF completes two weeks joint training exercise in Jordan

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuuN8TUvmww

Brilliant!

Odunayaw:
The Army was at first psyched up for an aviation unit because of (old) NAF's inability to conduct air resupply runs, observation and recce and insertion. The Army thus trained 40 pilots and technicians to boot.
Through the present insurgency. The Army has attached technicians and engineers with NAF so there isn't really an issue with training and facilities for pilots.logs & maintenance, doctrine development etc .Solmething like commensalism

However the stick in the mud is money. Money which the Army doesn't have.My idea for the Bells to serve with the Army is because of Special Operations.


But if you ask me I'd say we dont need any army aviation unit. The idea just seem like taking paracetamol for migraine. The issue has always been diverse types of materiel thus causing problems with spares,expertise and even men to man these machines. Till we complete fixing that (including procurement policy and direction) we'd keep getting pairs of anything that can hover

meanwhile, can you pronounce Odunayo

Actually, its better off with the police.

Odunayaw:
Could this have been better off with the Army

Hopefully, I'm not resurrecting an already concluded issue.
My opinion: that truck is STUCK in the mud, reasons:
1. Like Henry mentioned: Soldiers hanging around (they are hardly on the move and don't intend to anytime soon) the truck all staring like "we've got to do something here". One jumping unto the truck. It doesn't make sense the vehicle would be moving in that horrible uneven road and some chap will be jumping on it. No way makes any sense.
2. Tyre tracks in front do not in anyway whatsoever support the opinion that the vehicle in question is in motion.
3. The winch is out, for whatever reason, its out, and we know why.
4. For such a vehicle in motion, tyres moving, we should see some displacement of the mud and some splashes here and there. In this case, WE DO NOT SEE ANY.

So Frumentius, yes, we know you were deployed in DRC, but your arguement was needless.

frumentius:
So you see a few pics of pick-ups in the city of Goma and the air-base, and you reach this conclusion:


And still have the nerve to call people stupid?

This nitwit assumed that Nigeria's favorite past time activity (insulting Igbos) will be tolerated here. Think again, dimwit.

iblawi:
It's of no use replying f00ls

With this response, it must be said this iblawi guy really breeds idiocy.

iblawi:
I would have done just that but it's of no use. My intent was not to insult Igbos but their response could have made me do so. I just didn't want to turn this tread upside down. I referred to igbo politicians and not the entire Igbos.

Nip it in the bud before it grows. You won't want to have them at your borders no matter how sophisticated your military may be.

ActivateKruger:
Fvck me, Islamic extremism is trying to spread to southern Africa.

An Islamic group trying to impose Sharia Law attacked and killed police in Mozambique

http://allafrica.com/stories/201710120066.html

That will be it. And a gradual withdraw of some overused vehicles and a total withdrawal of hilux (to be used for civil activities only). Something should also be done about those annoying Isuzu 2.5 ton trucks.

Henry240:
The material used inside, what sort of material is that?


If the army could just do like 550 PF ARA vehicles and 700 PF2's over the next 7 - 10 years, that would be very fantastic!!!

The kind of news you dont really hear but you know its happening:
http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-presidency-only-10-months-old-and-new-data-his-airstrikes-alarm-684084

Not about Trump but more about how the US military has been killing and wiping out entire families in their ISIS bombing campaign

"When President Donald Trump took office in January, it was unclear whether the bombast from his campaign would translate into an aggressive new strategy against terrorism. At campaign rallies he pledged to “bomb the hell” out of the Islamic State militant group (ISIS). He openly mused about killing the families of terrorists, a blatant violation of the Geneva Conventions, which prohibits violence against noncombatants.
Ten months into his presidency, a clearer picture is emerging. The data indicate several alarming trends.

According to research from the nonprofit monitoring group Airwars, the first seven months of the Trump administration have already resulted in more civilian deaths than under the entirety of the Obama administration. Airwars reports that under Obama’s leadership, the fight against ISIS led to approximately 2,300 to 3,400 civilian deaths. Through the first seven months of the Trump administration, they estimate that coalition air strikes have killed between 2,800 and 4,500 civilians.
Researchers also point to another stunning trend—the “frequent killing of entire families in likely coalition airstrikes.” In May, for example, such actions led to the deaths of at least 57 women and 52 children in Iraq and Syria.
The vast increase in civilian deaths is not limited to the anti-ISIS campaign. In Afghanistan, the U.N. reports a 67 percent increase in civilian deaths from U.S. airstrikes in the first six months of 2017 compared to the first half of 2016....."

So now, who's gonna tell on the US military viz a viz their human rights record? 5100 - 8900 civilian deaths, gosh!

Actually the interior looks very good. I love the paddings. Seats and steering wheels can easily be adjusted. Size of the wheel can also be adjusted if needed. We'll know how and what they will modify after trials.

giles14:
great but for me the steering is too close,
is this vehicle drive over an IED troops may survive but am not sure the driver will live to tell story.as a result from internal bleeding

Interesting, and while we play hide and seek, they continue building/increasing their numbers, weapons, skills, and confidence. The worst part is this: they may soon start attracting more jihadi groups.

IbnSultaan:
You guys are unaware of the shit up there
The military is battling two groups
One in the madara sambisa axis
Other in Northen Borno lake Chad axis

The groups do not move or engage the military like they did before but target vulnerable convoys and patrol teams .

In the lake Chad area the islands , some of which are Chadian served as hideouts so also the huge mountainous terrain linking Nigeria n CMR ,.
It will take years of both regional military ops and socioeconomic development to degrade the threat

giles14:
viewers discretion advised

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/graphic-images-isis-ambushes-nigerian-army-convoy-executes-soldiers/

Thanks for catching that. Error was mine. I read from the source that the army thanked the NPA which I thought was the NPA financed the purchase. Actually, the NPA was thanked for swift clearance of the vehicles from the ports.
Thanks

jakeporeshenko:
Sorry I know this discussion is not my business but why would the Nigerian ports authority purchase military hardware on behalf of the army ?

What happened to ministry of defense, please can you link a source to that statement .

Henry Henry, there have been many comments recently on the prowess of Nigerian armed forces that should have gotten your head rolling 2 ways.
Anyway, let's do a bit of basic analysis:
"....Speaking during a bilateral meeting with King Abdullah II shortly after his address to the 72nd Session of the United Nations General Assembly, in New York on Tuesday, Buhari thanked the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan for its support to Nigeria’s campaign against terrorism and insurgency with the donation of military hardware and the pledge to further supply helicopters. President Buhari according to a statement signed by the Special Adviser on Media and Publicity, Femi Adesina also reassured King Abdullah of Nigeria’s commitment towards the proposed Aqaba Process...."
1. First announced at the UN meeting between Buhari and the Jordanian head; long after we received the first batch of Streit vehicles. Discussions have been ongoing before now and still continuing before the donation. Note this is a donation of 200 vehicles.
2. The 177 Streit vehicles were ordered and paid for by the Nigerian Ports Authrioty. It was not a donation, it was a purchase. The first batch of vehicles was produced in the UAE not Jordan. Let's do the maths. About 25 vehicles were supplied as first batch leaving 152 which will come from their Jordanian facility. 152 in no way equates to 200.
3. Let me rephrase my previous questionable statement: I do not see the Nigerian military doing a significant procurement of the ARA MRAP. Why? Antecedents:
--Past events tell me they'll do their usual photo ops purchase less than 20 and that's it.
--Proforce has a quality vehicle in the PF2, the army has not made any attempt to replace as few as 50 toyota hilux with the PF2. The police hasn't made any significant order either.
--The PF2 was there and still is, when the airforce made the ridiculous purchase of 11 or 12 Polish Honker vehicles, approved by the MOD.
--How many of the military's over 500 Toyota pickup trucks used in field operations have been uparmoured by Proforce? Very few (or none). If you know better, I'll like to hear it. You know the reason we've lost many good men and young officers to bh ambushes?
4. Would you like the army to add another line of armoured vehicles to their inventory after the BigFoot, Reva, MaxxPro, Caiman, Streit Spartan & Typhoon, and this Jordanian donation of 200 vehicles? I support local capacity but the logistic nightmare will be horrible if it isn't already.
Like you I wish the donation wasn't real, but it is.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/insurgency-jordan-donates-200-armoured-fighting-vehicles-nigeria/

Henry240:
This comment just got my head rolling. I believe we are all entitled to our opinions but come on!

Could you please expand on the part in bold, how did you come by this conclusion?

Secondly, where are these donated 200 armoured vehicles some of you lot keep talking about?

I do hope its the Ratels, excellent platform for counterinsurgency operations. However, it kills the hope of a major acquisition of the indigenous Proforce MRAP.

frumentius:
Speculation on my part, as that's what little Jordan donated to Yemen. I don't see them being able to donate anything else, frankly. Unless they're also expecting some other donation from Uncle Sam. Plus, if it's Ratels, they'll hopefully be adding more Paramount Mbombe as replacement!

Nigeria and Cameroun both operating Ratel, now that would be something. !

@ overhypedsteve
Brilliant interpretation of events, international policy and strategy. Thanks for drumming some sense and realism into the brains of some of these people. Nairaland locked me out after I made comments on the Chibok girls fiasco.