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How can you say all of this data are manipulated

From MT4 and on my FXBOOK

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ipcbot/genius-bot-gb/9331817

The company that splits profit 80/20
Amd charge $3 on every withdrawal

All documentations are verifiable on respective governmental sites

@fxmanager don't try to convince people with your bogus epistle.

FAQ THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL
*FAQ*

Q- Have you watched the trade live?
A- Most of the time you won't see it live. They have anti-copying in place so most of the time it'll just go straight in your account as a closed trade.

That and having it coupled with being delayed will make it so people can't trade copy

Q- This means they are not trading in real market conditions its broker manipulation
A- Nope, it's just anti-copying so people can't trade copy. I've seen this in tons of other PAMM platforms

Q- They seem to be paying a lot in referrals, what happens when they dry up, close down??
A- They have a few ways they're earning on their end as well. Broker fees/spread, 80/20% profit split, and then they're also trading on their end. The bot does only 3-4 trades daily for you subscribers. Imagine the remaining number of trade the bot does at their end a day.

Q- Are these live trades taken by Genius Bot or results of Copy trading from Genius BOT. In other words have you got any copy trading software that can copy trades from IPC Genious Bot to ur MT4 .
A- These are trades from the master account to those who are legitimately synced to it. From what I've tested, trying to trade copy will not work and will result in losses

Q- Can you buy EA(Expert Advisor)?
A- Nope it's like a PAMM(Percentage allocation management module) No one has access to the bot. It trades from a master account

Q- Can this EA be used to pass MFF(Managed Futures Fund) prop firm challenge?
A- No. It has to be run with IPCs broker in order to work correctly. Can't run it on other brokers


JOIN MY WHATSAPP PLATFORM FOR MORE INFO

https:///DgNmg1jOHyA6q4KjDeQiqQ

Your information is misleading. See screenshot below the. The so called ASIC LINK you posted has featured pages with ACN search where you can find Intelligence prime capital Listed or is that also formulated?

Fxmanager:
Follow the link below, for the top forex investor's controls that makes you a smart forex investor.

https://www.nairaland.com/6911605/top-forex-investors-control-makes

How can you say all of this data are manipulated

From MT4 and on my FXBOOK

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ipcbot/genius-bot-gb/9331817

The company that splits profit 80/20
Amd charge $3 on every withdrawal

All documentations are verifiable on respective governmental sites

@fxmanager don't try to convince people with your bogus epistle.

FAQ THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL
*FAQ*

Q- Have you watched the trade live?
A- Most of the time you won't see it live. They have anti-copying in place so most of the time it'll just go straight in your account as a closed trade.

That and having it coupled with being delayed will make it so people can't trade copy

Q- This means they are not trading in real market conditions its broker manipulation
A- Nope, it's just anti-copying so people can't trade copy. I've seen this in tons of other PAMM platforms

Q- They seem to be paying a lot in referrals, what happens when they dry up, close down??
A- They have a few ways they're earning on their end as well. Broker fees/spread, 80/20% profit split, and then they're also trading on their end. The bot does only 3-4 trades daily for you subscribers. Imagine the remaining number of trade the bot does at their end a day.

Q- Are these live trades taken by Genius Bot or results of Copy trading from Genius BOT. In other words have you got any copy trading software that can copy trades from IPC Genious Bot to ur MT4 .
A- These are trades from the master account to those who are legitimately synced to it. From what I've tested, trying to trade copy will not work and will result in losses

Q- Can you buy EA(Expert Advisor)?
A- Nope it's like a PAMM(Percentage allocation management module) No one has access to the bot. It trades from a master account

Q- Can this EA be used to pass MFF(Managed Futures Fund) prop firm challenge?
A- No. It has to be run with IPCs broker in order to work correctly. Can't run it on other brokers


JOIN MY WHATSAPP PLATFORM FOR MORE INFO

https:///DgNmg1jOHyA6q4KjDeQiqQ

Your information is misleading. See screenshot below the. The so called ASIC LINK you posted has featured pages with ACN search where you can find Intelligence prime capital Listed or is that also formulated?

Fxmanager:
Who is wikifx to list a broker as being regulated, when such broker is not a government licensed and regulated forex broker, and also cannot be found in the database of the government regulatory body? For a price, any dishonest website can be bribed to pass along a false information. For your information, below is the correct search link for the ASIC forex broker's government regulatory status, as nothing cannot be found in the wrong search link you posted in this forum.

https://asic.gov.au

Visit the link above and type in the brokers name or number, you won't find any information about the brokers regulatory status. Try searching for any known ASIC regulated forex broker using the same link above, and you will find them in the database. Please, stop misleading investors in this forum, with fake and wrong links.

emmanuelewumi:
It is 0.7% with Stanbic IBTC Stockbrokers

I bet they do not have a trading platforms that beat that of CSL STOCKBROKERS. A platform that allows investors trade in real time as seen below

Natajo2021:
Noted with thanks.

In CSL STOCKBROKERS its 1% brokerage commission.

Please any information or update on Honeyflour

am sure you are among the people who said this 6months ago lol and we still balling... face the truth

soberdrunk:
Some Nigerians are "desperately" addicted to MMM, there is nothing you can tell or show them to change their mind until they eventually loose their money before the reality of the ponzi scheme will dawn on them...............

I weep for you.. Thats what you have been made to believe.. We in MMM have come to realize that hard working people deserve the best... we work for our money and banks use it to enrich their selves all in the name of we are saving our money with them. They are the real scam. Let your money and sweat work for you... Long live mmm

dollyjoy:
For one successful story from mmm their are ten unsuccessful stories.



People should learn to work for their money, not giving the little they have to scammers.

Good day Mavrodians. It's been an eventful week for us in our community MMM Nigeria ,regardless we the participants are the determinants of  what happens in our community,lets not panic /worry over what the media has said about our community been a scam. We saw this threats (Government, Media, Banks) coming because they are the enemies of the common man trapped in financial slavery.


The truth is these threats would always be there but they can never get into our personal offices to Provide Help and Get Help for Us. lets always remember that the strength of our community lies in our understanding of the IDEOLOGY which is the fuel that drives our community, Common man Providing Help for each other . Let remain calm and stand for what we believe and has worked for us.

Our community grows from strength to strength daily through our Act of Providing Help and Getting Help, they can not stop us, they can never get to us . We are not a Company, We are not a Business and We are not into Investments. You  and I are helpers of each other and our testimonies says it all. Let’s continue to Provide Help and Get Help. We are the community, We are MMM Nigeria.

Guiders pass it across .

you are probably blinded by the same thing that has made nigeria the way it is...

Alhajipablo:
same here

Good morning my dear MMM compatriots....

This is to deny and disclaim and clarify all lies, wrong notions and erroneous impressions planned, planted, waged and been spread by so called Sec (security and exchange commission ) that mmm is an internet scam.
If I'm not mistaken, 90% of us here are more educated even than some of d sec staffs. So.... Lets read and understand d real meaning of mmm in rain and sun so dat we won't be a fool to d core and quit d pathway to our financial floor and freedom.

In the first place mmm did not hide anything for us.
The warning/cautioned from that we are at our own risk does not mean that we will lost our money but to scared us from loan to participate so that we won't regret the interest upon the loan either from bank or cooperative society.

Let's us tell sec mmm is never a business nor investment. We are participating voluntarily and not compulsively. We have 100% right in participating so let's not be panic.


To start wit;
1. In all ramifications, a citizen of a nation is vested with the constitutional right to pursue his/her business, investment or anything that can benefits him legitimately either by taking risk or dependence.
(We are justified)

2. The position of law in any country stipulated that, "HE WHO ASSERT MUST PROVE". i . e whoever or which body alleged MMM to be an internet scam must give details, proof, facts and witness of the particulars of the fraud.
NOTE: in such details, proof facts and witness, an evidence of ur culpability must be provided
(we are not guilty but justified)

3. Any allegation on internet frauds or scam is always based on;
1. Hearsay
2. Mere speculation
3. Flat or weak fact
4. Ingenuity
5. Unconvincing.
None of these can ever hold water even in world court.

4. If MMM should be declines it means all banks in Nigeria will be closed on the same reason.
Because in everything transactions u makes, bank must benefit from it. Hence, we can't operate MMM without banking system. It means mmm is contributing to the developments of dis Nation. Even more than our leaders.

My question for Sec are:

1. Does donations to orphanages and or Al majirs in the north required legal backup neither registration.?

2. Does political aspirants in Nigeria do legal backup bfr spending money for campaigning?

3. Is Nigeria herself as a nation not a real scam in all ways.?

a- petroleum sector scam.
b- Educational sector scam
c- health sector scam.
d- aviation scam.
e- internal/external affairs scam.
f- military/paramilitary/securities scam.
g- banks scam
h- plenary/Parliament (NASS ) scam. And so on.


4. Where were sec when oritsejafor, Jonathan, and some others scammed us abt arms purchasing in 2013/2014
At least they made an exchange basically bfr they transferred d money.

I urges we stand on our feat with no shaking and be free financially than to live poor forever.

My pple pls don't lets be panic unnecessarily abt mmm declines.
MMM is getting strong the more.
They will help us create spreading awareness more than we expected.
They soon stick to our motto.
TOGETHER WE CHANGE THE WORLD.

MadCow1:
Everything in life carries a risk...


My very first business dealing ended up costing me some extra money outside of my investment.

I advice people against putting their monies into MMM despite me having invested 500'k in the matter.. I checked around with the people I know who have made a healthy profit off of the scheme and decided that 500'K was an acceptable gamble for this program.

I will never preach this scheme to anybody.. I wouldnt because even I myself am not comfortably with it.

I also have an exit plan in hand.. Hopefully I don't lose my money before I can bail out.


The OP has actually shown me how this scheme can be a fraud (which is something I have been cracking my head for a while now about)..

Hopefully before it goes bust, my cash would be back in my account safely. But if it goes, well, I gambled and I lost..

#KeepItMoving.

Good morning my dear MMM compatriots....

This is to deny and disclaim and clarify all lies, wrong notions and erroneous impressions planned, planted, waged and been spread by so called Sec (security and exchange commission ) that mmm is an internet scam.
If I'm not mistaken, 90% of us here are more educated even than some of d sec staffs. So.... Lets read and understand d real meaning of mmm in rain and sun so dat we won't be a fool to d core and quit d pathway to our financial floor and freedom.

In the first place mmm did not hide anything for us.
The warning/cautioned from that we are at our own risk does not mean that we will lost our money but to scared us from loan to participate so that we won't regret the interest upon the loan either from bank or cooperative society.

Let's us tell sec mmm is never a business nor investment. We are participating voluntarily and not compulsively. We have 100% right in participating so let's not be panic.


To start wit;
1. In all ramifications, a citizen of a nation is vested with the constitutional right to pursue his/her business, investment or anything that can benefits him legitimately either by taking risk or dependence.
(We are justified)

2. The position of law in any country stipulated that, "HE WHO ASSERT MUST PROVE". i . e whoever or which body alleged MMM to be an internet scam must give details, proof, facts and witness of the particulars of the fraud.
NOTE: in such details, proof facts and witness, an evidence of ur culpability must be provided
(we are not guilty but justified)

3. Any allegation on internet frauds or scam is always based on;
1. Hearsay
2. Mere speculation
3. Flat or weak fact
4. Ingenuity
5. Unconvincing.
None of these can ever hold water even in world court.

4. If MMM should be declines it means all banks in Nigeria will be closed on the same reason.
Because in everything transactions u makes, bank must benefit from it. Hence, we can't operate MMM without banking system. It means mmm is contributing to the developments of dis Nation. Even more than our leaders.

My question for Sec are:

1. Does donations to orphanages and or Al majirs in the north required legal backup neither registration.?

2. Does political aspirants in Nigeria do legal backup bfr spending money for campaigning?

3. Is Nigeria herself as a nation not a real scam in all ways.?

a- petroleum sector scam.
b- Educational sector scam
c- health sector scam.
d- aviation scam.
e- internal/external affairs scam.
f- military/paramilitary/securities scam.
g- banks scam
h- plenary/Parliament (NASS ) scam. And so on.


4. Where were sec when oritsejafor, Jonathan, and some others scammed us abt arms purchasing in 2013/2014
At least they made an exchange basically bfr they transferred d money.

I urges we stand on our feat with no shaking and be free financially than to live poor forever.

My pple pls don't lets be panic unnecessarily abt mmm declines.
MMM is getting strong the more.
They will help us create spreading awareness more than we expected.
They soon stick to our motto.
TOGETHER WE CHANGE THE WORLD.

Cmeo:
Some people will not hear word no matter what.

Nigeria govt or any country govt where MMM is operated can just wake up today and cease the MMM website and that will be the end of MMM for life.

If you doubt me, where is Liberty Reserves today?
Where are the deposits money today?

people like you die in poverty lol... i sorry for you am sure in future your generations will curse you for this.... How much were you paid?

progress69:
MMM are already scamming people now. The mega scam/dooms day still dey front. Many of their parody accounts and agents get help and never provide help . Its simple logic, computer programming, isolate ur agents to always receive help, and not provide help, then cycle ur victims to the provide/get help platform. At one time of the other, a victim will pay the parody/agent's account. Its common sense! At some point,when they have the target num of potential victims, they strike finally and the website goes into extinct

If they say MMM is a Scam, no qualms but…. Ask them this questions ,

When Nepa over bills/gives estimated bills…it is not a scam.

When DSTV still charges you for not using ur subscription due to no NEPA light….it is not a scam

When filling stations adjust pump and sell at 160 per liter in disguise…it is not a scam

When bank deduct several money/charges from your account for nothing…it is not a scam

When politicians loot national treasury without probe while our infrastructures gets dilapidated, no jobs for the youth, no money to pay workers salaries….. This too no be scam stall

What about the fake Immigrations recruitment that claimed lots of innocent lives….that one sef no be scam Abi?

Police recruitments that requires only N10,000 men yet they charged 1,000 for form that over 100,000 youths bought….. More like scam to me.

tempest01:
I saw the current MMM advertised by a friend sometime back and I quickly waved it off as a scam as with the HYIP and other ponzi schemes.

https://www.nairaland.com/3321916/sec-warns-nigerians-dangers-mmm

Given this topic that was on the front page today, I saw some comments by people and it was noted that ''There is no pool of money with the current MMM and therefore they can't run away''.

Given the nature of their business, with no investments and the fact that they have put in resources in place to allow for this trade to happen, it is pertinent that one day or another, they will close down, and they won't go through that stress without duping people of their money. Seeing the topic today, I had to register and checkout how the model works , and also brainstorm on the eventual way the MMM operators will dupe those that are in the system.

I am giving a scenario here and though it may not play out the same way, there should be no denying the fact that one day - which i wll term as ''the day of reckoning''. the MMM site will shut operations and will try to make as much as possible from your funds before that.



Now here is the scenario. As there is no pool as someone rightly said, I registered and saw the mode of operation. It is worthy of note that the same MMM site runs in several countries:-

Nigeria
South Africa
India
Colombia
Turkey

So from my postulation, the fold-up will happen in a month - The month of reckoning-- across all MMM sites on that month because anything short of that will send panic to other countries and they won't maximize.

The scenario i see playing out is that the handlers will have bank accounts or agents in all countries of operations and in the month of reckoning, as there is no pool of money, all the ''get help'' requests will be paused - Not paused perse, but no ''get help'' request will go through and will be pending as they won't publish it.

Now the ''Provide help'' will be allowed to work, but the account shown will be that of the handlers of the site (or their agents) and people will keep providing help, but it goes to the scam account. Now this will go on for a month as you have to wait for a month to use your Mavro. The first people that will notice the scam will be the ''Get help'' People as they will keep waiting, but no help will come. Then ''Provide help'' people will come to know after a while and they MMM people will release a statement saying the ''business model experiment failed and they are shutting down''

Be wise Nigerians....

Alternative views and constructive arguments are welcome