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Odunayaw:
Will you suffer a heart attack if you just said the truth

so you can't figure out that putting a right footed slow Cb on the left side of the defence carries the risk that he can do an own goal when dealing with low crosses coming in from the left?. It's basic principle. If bassey was in Ekong position,he would have cleared it with his left leg rather than Ekong having to awkwardly position his body to clear with his right leg leading to the own goal

MKPUOGALIGA:
Why are you guys like this for Christ sake. If you like dont start preparing for the next world cup after this one.....keep looking for scapegoat

because you don't understand the rudiments of the game doesn't mean others don't. Some of us are trained in this thing and can see the mistakes a mile away. So it's only normal for us to point it out. Even if we start preparing today for 2030 and the coach keeps making this rookie mistakes,we will be back at this same stage in 5 years only. Magic don't happen in football,the quality of your decisions determine your outcome.

The players tried but this is all on Chelle. When I pointed that the first half formation was wrong,some people here said he's the coach and we don't know what we are saying. Although he corrected all his mistakes in the second half,if he had started the right way,then he would instead have used the substitutions to change the game instead of using it to correct his mistakes. I hope going forward he starts thinking properly and stop over complicating things and putting players in wrong positions. That own goal is on him,Moses and lookman should never play at the same time bassey is a Cb not a lb,iwobi isn't a cm.

Pythagoras001:
Removal of ekong improved defense

this isn't on Ekong though. You put a right footed slow defender on the left side of the defence while putting a slow Cb as a lb against a very fast right winger,what do you think will happen. That own goal is in Chelle and his stupid decisions.

BankyGee:
I don't think you're interpreting the lineup properly tho.

okay. 352 is better than 442 diamond. So let's see how it goes,hopefully goes well for us.

BankyGee:
There's nothing stubborn about this lineup. Them no invite 23 players to be mannequins.

Na una dey panic anyhow. Any lineup we start, una go still complain. This is a good lineup. We have a good squad.

it's not a good line up. No need for Fredrick and Moses Simon. Put a proper lb instead of Fredrick.. Moses and lookman always drfit to the same side making the right side dead.
It happened against Zimbabwe and Rwanda,it will happen again today. Putting iwobi or chukwueze on the right instead of Moses balances this. Moses can come in for lookman second half.

I give up on Chelle. He's top stubborn in his ways for his own good. Fredrick is a Cb,so is it going to be bassey to lb or aina to lb and Fredrick to Rb. Why not put Felix agu as lb if you don't want to use oyemachi.
Also we have tried it more than 50 times and hasn't even worked,iwobi isn't a dm or cm,he's either an Amf or winger. Moses and lookman don't do well together because they both occupy the same spaces with iwobi also drifting to the left which leaves our right side of attack non existent. Putting lookman on the right also nullifies his strength. So no need having both of them at the same time.Teams have figured this out by overloading the left side and our attack becomes toothless. Instead of using one wing,we need to use both to stretch the game. Wrong personnel choice and player positioning as always. We will be lucky to get a draw.

This World Cup qualifying campaign has come to an end. Now, we need to start preparing for the next one. The first step in this process is to fire the technical team. There appears to be a lack of technical understanding among them, given the caliber of players they have allowed us to select and the way some players have been consistently put in the wrong positions over the years, a fact that is obvious to everyone but them.

Next, we need to decide whether to retain Chelle as our coach. In my opinion, he should be let go. He seems out of touch with reality if he believes that a 4-4-2 diamond formation will work with the type of players we have.

Finally, we should reorganize the logistics and planning department of the NFF to ensure they perform their jobs effectively. They need to create a conducive environment for the players and minimize distractions, particularly from skit makers and content creators, which were problematic during Finidi's time.

I pointed out Chelle's flaws back in March, and now in August, he's still making the same mistakes. Yes, those players have their shortcomings, but they aren't as bad as he has made them appear. In the next round of qualifiers, I predict we'll manage to win against Rwanda but lose to South Africa. At that point, many people will start to see the flaws in his unrealistic tactical ideas and diamond formation.

Ever since Chelle first came on board, I have maintained the same opinion: he is either deluded or out of his depth. Last year, Paulo Fonseca was appointed as the coach of AC Milan. He attempted to impose a tiki-taka style on a counter-attacking team, which obviously didn't work. We lost many matches, and he was sacked in mid-December, less than five months into his tenure.

Chelle seems to be making the same mistakes. He is using a diamond formation, placing players in positions that do not suit their strengths, and employing overly complicated tactics. When the team list for Chan was released, people complained that he hadn't selected the best personnel. Imagine going to a competition without a defensive midfielder or any wingers, and instead taking fringe players! He defended his selections, claiming they were the best for his tactics.

Now that we are facing defeats, some people are blaming the players. Who else can we hold accountable if not Chelle and his unrealistic tactics? It's worth noting that the Sudan league has been on break for over a year due to civil war. Ultimately, the responsibility lies with Chelle and no one else.

Setaleonoz:
Very shameless people
Dem don stain chelle white

Abi na Chelle dey stain their white. Give remo coach this team and he will do a lot better job. Chelle reminds me of fonseca time at Ac milan,same behave.Have ideas in your head that are incompatible with the players you have will always result in disaster

I'm not surprised, and in fact, I'm happy with this result. Hopefully, it brings Chelle back to reality. It's important not to impose ideas on players but rather to analyze their strengths and find the best tactics to utilize them. Some people may criticize the players and claim they are inadequate for these tactics, but perhaps the truth is that the tactics themselves are unrealistic. I hope he learns from this experience and wakes up before our match against South Africa; otherwise, we could be in for a long ride.

elyte89:
Dt formation with good players dt can interpret it;creates a lot of goal scoring opportunities in a match but ur players needs to be 100 percent fit cos it burns out players energy quickly,I can tell y dt if we can adapt to it fully with our striking prowess,team wey go beat us for dis Africa go try

please tell me one top team club or country that's using it. You don't use specialized systems for country because there are only limited training sessions before games and player choices are limited when compared to clubs that can buy players that fit. The limitations and cons of the formation far outweighs any pros.

AndSunGorilla:
I thought Isaac Savior had japad. Atule's snob I don't understand. Perhaps Ijaball and Fidelis should have been allowed to handle these boys. From your highlights sef, Rangers do play a beautiful and better brand of football. I won't excuse Chelle too. We must wack him too with 2x2 since we are wacking the players.

Chelle is the major culprit Sha. Players selection,formation and tactics choice was terrible and this is all down to him. Until he gets his ass out of his head and stop with the stupid diamond formation,we will continue having this issue both with the main team and Chan eagles.

Tinneh:
Well said, coach chelle is not proving to be a flexible manager so far, his teams tend to start games with high energy but later burnout, leading to late equalisers

it's due to the system and that's why we are always open to counterattacks on the wings and our attacks are very predictable cos it's narrow. If a formation is good,many teams will be using it. I don't know any top team club or country that uses 442 diamond.

BankyGee:
Joebie? 😏

no

I understand that the overall quality of the NPFL is low, which means that the technical ability of the players will also be limited. However, a coach's role is to maximize the performance of the team as a whole, making the sum greater than its individual parts.

I find it frustrating that Chelle continues to use the diamond 4-4-2 formation. It doesn't make sense. Why not stick with a more conventional 4-3-3, 4-4-2, or even 4-2-3-1, which the players are already familiar with? The diamond 4-4-2 formation requires very specific types of players, which are hard to come by, along with many disadvantages associated with the formation itself.

I suspect that he will continue using this formation with the main team in September, and it won't yield results. It's often said that insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results.

On another note,I've noticed a lot of our home grown coaches have this habit of always shouting at the players from the touch line. Instead of sitting down and analyzing the game,they shout pass,run,Mark like say the players are children. What's the thought process behind it.

What does ijamilusi have on this coach. Is it bias or personal likeness because I don't know how he keeps playing her. She's hardworking but not bringing enough to the table

On another note,I've noticed a lot of our home grown coaches have this habit of always shouting at the players from the touch line. Instead of sitting down and analyzing the game,they shout pass,run,Mark like say the players are children. What's the thought process behind it.

We lost afcon final against the host,I hope we don't lose the wafcon final as well against the host

ThePresenceWtf:
Whoever is playing the left wing is an absolute idiot... She doesn't tract back, doesn't attack.... It's leaving Ashleigh having to do both the attacking and defending on that flank and she's being triple marked when she attacks and in turn they overload the wing while attacking themselves.

On the other hand Whoever is playing the number 10 role/attacking midfielder in the midfield 3 is nowhere to be found. She's not supporting the striker....Our striker is all alone. I've lost count of how many times the striker has won a knock down header and there's no one to pick up up the 2nd balls....The Moroccan girls just picks the ball up and re-circulate or counter...


This is pathetic to watch!

Ihuzeo is the one on the left. She's been totally useless and that's putting it mildly. Ajibade needs to be moved back to the right as well. The coach is tactically inept

We can still come back though. The two goals were from our errors at the back. What we need now is to remove ihuzeo and ijamilusi. Bring in wingers. The coach just dey squeeze face dey shout,which is not helping. Give them clear tactical instructions.

Morocco vs Ghana game is live on YouTube. How come none of our games have been shown on YouTube

Kudos to the girls. They really tried their best. But our coach is horrible. Barks orders all day long instead of analysing the game. Players were visibly tired,didn't change them. If he wants to be barking orders,why doesn't he just instruct his assistants to be assessing the physical conditions of the players then. That folashade girl should have been subbed off early into the second half. Now we have rinsola,Payne who haven't since like the first match day. If we happen to need them in the final,I hope they won't be too far off

daveP:
Does Chelle look like he fit take us to KO stages of AFCON? Talk true?

Besides, NFF though...

Maybe na we as fans dey see wetin dey no fit see sha. Cos their quality of managers ehnnn.


Thank God i said lets see what Chelle does in 5 games before we get carried away.

I honestly don't think he can. Not because he's not a good coach but because he has a set formation in his mind and doesn't seem willing to adapt to the payers he has. While that might work in club football,it will never work in national team football because there's no enough time to drill your tactics with the players. You have to adapt to the players you have and maximize their strengths not put them in wrong positions and be experimenting complicated tactics

I feel a lot of people are wrongly castigsting ndidi. He is no more a dm but now a low quality box to box,doesn't have the defensive discipline to stay back. But all the coaches always want to shoehorn him there and he has always struggled.
Ekong for all his good attributes has always been slow and now due to age has even lost a year of pace,so you need the fullback on his side to be fast.
Chelle left osayi who everyone saw was exhausted and probably not even fit from the injury of the last match and kept till the end of the game even when he was subpar the whole game.

Sometimes I wonder if there's a curse on super eagles coaches that make them act brain dead. Even regular Fm or fifa players can see the glaring gaps and actions that need to be taken but they never do that. From rohr not substituting against Argentina in 2018 world up to finidi playing osayi as a lb to this Chelle. It's ridiculous

The guys really tried but this is all on the coach. The starting formation,tactics and personnel choice were wrong. Then also when we finally scored,wrong substitutions,wrong instructions. Osayi,lookman and ndid should have been taking out as they were all exhausted but instead he brought in Boniface to do what exactly,when a more defensive sub and game plan should have been used. Hopefully this is a learning curve for him and he realizes his mistakes and doesn't stubbornly want to keep with this stupid formation,if not we are in for a long ride. World cup dream is officially over,we can move on to other things.

Diavolo:
We are still going to score and win by 1-0. But whatever the outcome this formation and personnel should never be used again. We wasted so much time using this wrong tactics.

still stands

We are still going to score and win by 1-0. But whatever the outcome this formation and personnel should never be used again. We wasted so much time using this wrong tactics.

humility33:
Are we to blame the coach for the abysmal play so far?

I won't call it abysmal. Just subpar. Putting the players in their best position and going with a simpler formation that they understand will make it a lot better. National teams have barely 4 training sessions in between matches,that's too little time to try to implement something very drastic and complicated.

Even if we somehow win,this formation and set up should never be used again. The players don't even understand their positions,zones,who to press. We are sending the full backs very high up when we have slow CBs. Only one real midfielder. It's ridiculous.