₦airaland Forum

EVarn:
Just like private security outfits are helping your police carry out its common duties.Shame on you.

And that has to do with the military, how? Glad to see you've finally accepted that you should abandon your arguments against civilians helping your military. Your only option now is to to talk about South Africa's police work. Shame on you. Shame on Nigeria.

EVarn:
And the military itself is made of what?,reptilian aliens from mars?,isnt the military fundamentally an institution of civilians trained in the art of warfare?.

I don't see you denying that the C stands for Civilian. All we are interested in is that civilians are helping your military. Shame on you.

Amazing. US Marines and civilians are now the same thing. Wowzie.

EVarn:
You think fighting a war is a simple banter of bullets and cannons?,no wonder you have quack engineers running MTN.
Even prior to the inception of BH into the NE,every local district has its own civilian watchguard that monitors against suspicious activities and aids the police in acquiring information and conducting investigations; after BH started violent activities,the civilian watchguards were seen as an asset by the military brass due to their familiarity with the local populace and activistic symbolism,therefore upon volunteering,they were trained and armed to enable them serve as a reserve infantry and mundane recoinaissance unit: many of them are even familiar with BH members,and they therefore provide the much needed information needed to master both the local terrain and treacherous personalities.

The C stands for Civilian. Unless you deny that, you have no business posting.

Ibro105:
Go learn what terrorism is and tell me any country that have ended terrorism recently. Or just tell me any country that have curtailed terrorists like Nigeria recently.

No one forced your president and generals to claim you'd be done by December. So, your leaders are either stûpid or stûpid. Alternatively, they are stûpid. You've now had to backtrack and your soldiers have had to run and run. So, tell me, why is your nation so useless?

Ibro105:
Foolish post

It's not as if anything contained in the post could possibly be denied. Facts only. In which case, your only option is to scream "foolish post".

Ibro105:
You don't need to reply them when their entire military can't fight poachers, tell me how they know what terrorism is?

Butthurt Nigerian

The anti-poaching effort is looked after by the ministry of environmental affairs. Meanwhile, you have a state of emergency and a full-blown military effort against BH and you have soldiers running away from the enemy. Shame on you. So bad you are that you've had to admit that you were being stupid when you told the world you'd crush BH by December. It's not as if we believed your clueless generals anyway.

The little episodes of victory that you saw had South Africa mercenaries written all over them in any event.

EVarn:
mr mugabe,must we continue repeating verbose rhetorics all the time.
CJTF is a military sanctioned militia,a volunteer force armed and trained by the military; it is not an ordinary mob of outraged hooligans whipped into a frenzy by tantalizing promises of money and bloodlust,as being depicted by the media.

The C in CJTF stands for "civilian", thanks.

EVarn:
lol.I laugh in dothraki....let me educate you:
normal Nigerian civilians do not possess firearms,this is to say that those so-called " civilian fighters " are actually militarily sanctioned CJTF .

The bold in your own post buries you.

So-called civilian fighters sanctioned by the military to help the military. Shame on you.

agaugust:
Next week now the same newspaper will apologize for publishing a false story they sourced from an anonymous poster on Facebook.



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Oh, great. So if there's no apology by next week, we take it you've run out of retorts? It's not as if you've put anything forward anyway. So, thank you for making our lives easier. Next week is but a few days away. We look forward to having this story archived as part of evidence on this thread. Useless cowardly soldiers might as well sign up for Rio Olympics and compete against Usain Bolt.

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/11/30/boko-haram-destroys-nigerian-military-base-107-troops-mia

BOKO HARAM DESTROYS NIGERIAN MILITARY BASE


By IBRAHIM ADULAZIZ and MICHELLE FAUL, Associated Press

YOLA, Nigeria (AP) — Boko Haram destroyed a Nigerian military base as soldiers fled and only self-defense fighters prevented the insurgents from retaking a northeastern town, residents said Monday.

The civilian fighters held Gulak town after soldiers ran away Sunday night until the military sent reinforcements who fought off the extremists, former council chairman James Ularamu told The Associated Press.

The military base was burned down, said Ularamu.

Sunday night's attack came as a military intelligence officer confirmed that 107 soldiers remain missing nearly two weeks after a Nov. 19 battle. The attackers drove off with an army T-72 tank and dozens of new camouflage uniforms, according to the officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak on the issue.

Nigeria's military has denied dozens of soldiers are missing.

Premium Times newspaper first reported the soldiers from the 157 Battalion, including their commanding officer, were missing in action along with the tank, three artillery guns and eight trucks including one carrying 60,000 rounds of ammunition.

The military has reported that it destroyed dozens of Boko Haram camps and freed more than 1,000 kidnap victims in recent weeks. But Boko Haram has stepped up the tempo and range of its attacks, with raids and suicide bombings in the past week in Niger, Cameroon and northern Nigeria.

Early Sunday the extremists kidnapped dozens of girls and set ablaze hundreds of buildings in Bam in Borno state, said resident Mallam Ali.

The setbacks come as Nigeria's government admitted it cannot crush by December the 6-year uprising that has killed some 20,000 people.

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Faul reported from Lagos, Nigeria.

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This story has been corrected to show that the battle in which dozens of soldiers went missing took place 11 days ago on Nov. 19 and not five days ago.

Copyright 2015 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

magane:
giant of Africa whose citizens are spread throughout the whole world irritating their host countries . their piggy ways of living are not appriaciated anywhere in the world

Nuffsed

magane:
giant of Africa whose citizens are spread throughout the whole world irritating their host countries . their piggy ways of living are not appriaciated anywhere in the world

lezz:
Let me show you, since Zulus must be taught everything. I love pictures. So i will take you back to your kindergarteen class. Please stop quoting ANC stats for me. _fuck's the matter with you?

Being the last slaves of humanity doesn't mean you shouldn't learn fast and catch up to the rest of us. You overgrown ,obese , nauseating toad.

South Africa isn't called the world's most unequal country for nothing. Foolish, demented ANC-zombie.

Rubbish source, which is based on South Africa's own measures. That is why you have no link. I will repeat it until you are blue in the face. Nigeria is at 53% poverty rates. In fact, it is one of the poorer nations on the continent.

lezz:
no, it is less than even 33% you Muppet.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/only-a-third-of-nigerians-are-poor-says-world-bank/184323/

Do you even know what you are talking about? Are you talking about $2.00 a day or are you talking about $1.30 a day? In all likelihood, you have no clue.

Now, at $1.30 a day, Nigeria's poverty is at 53%, simple and plain. Poor nation.

Ibro105:
You just killed yourself.

Nigeria 2010 estimate 70%

South Africa 2012 estimate 35%.

Nigeria gdp is currently about 3 times the data that was used then. Our current poverty rate is 33% while South Africa's poverty rate is about 40% as of Las year dummy.

You have zero sources to support you hallucinations. So, please stop vomiting on the page. Nigeria's nominal GDP is approx $500 bn. Poverty rates are as posted by me, from the World Bank source.

Ibro105:
You are a fool and you just exposed yourself.

From what you posted your poverty is increasing
Even when your GDP was stronger than what you have today From 2008 - 2011 while Nigeria poverty rate was was same from 2003- 2009 calculated with old gdp(ppp) dummy.

Your link used old figures of 2003 - 2009 to calculate Nigeria's poverty rate while 2008 - 2011 was used for South Africa.

Our gdp is currently three time the figures used so look
for something current.
Nigeria's poverty rate is even lesser that 33% currently fool.

There is no better source than the WORLD BANK for poverty numbers. At last count (if you understand English), those are the numbers.

So, feel free to post your own "correct source". You have no link in your post, so you're effectively mouthfarting today. My numbers stand.

And your nominal GDP is USD 500 approx. So, please stop talking rubbish.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/30/blair-and-bush-went-to-war-in-iraq-despite-south-africas-wmd-assurances

Blair and Bush went to war in Iraq despite South Africa's WMD assurances

New book God, Spies and Lies details Mbeki’s attempts to stop invasion
SA experts worked with Saddam in 1980s; Mandela also tried to warn Bush

God, Spies and Lies, by South African journalist John Matisonn, describes how then president Thabo Mbeki tried in vain to convince both Blair and President George W Bush that toppling Saddam Hussein in 2003 would be a terrible mistake.

Mbeki’s predecessor, Nelson Mandela, also tried to convince the American leader, but was left fuming that “President Bush doesn’t know how to think”.

The claim was this week supported by Mbeki’s office, which confirmed that he pleaded with both leaders to heed the WMD experts and even offered to become their intermediary with Saddam in a bid to maintain peace.

South Africa had a special insight into Iraq’s potential for WMD because the apartheid government’s own biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programme in the 1980s led the countries to collaborate. The programme was abandoned after the end of white minority rule in 1994 but the expert team, known as Project Coast, was put back together by Mbeki to investigate the US and UK assertion that Saddam had WMD – the central premise for mounting an invasion.

Mbeki, who enjoyed positive relations with both Blair and Saddam, asked for the team to be granted access.

“Saddam agreed, and gave the South African team the freedom to roam unfettered throughout Iraq,” writes Matisonn, who says he drew on sources in Whitehall and the South African cabinet. “They had access to UN intelligence on possible WMD sites. The US, UK and UN were kept informed of the mission and its progress.” [...] Read more http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/30/blair-and-bush-went-to-war-in-iraq-despite-south-africas-wmd-assurances

lezz:
Your dememcy has reached its last stages. Nigeria has more billionaires than South Africa.

South Africa's poverty rate is 40 -45%
Nigeria is 33%.

Voodoo economics from a Nigerian village idiot. Seeing as you brought it up:

Nigeria's poverty ratio at last count - a whoping [size=20pt]53.5%[/size] (simply put, more than half of your people are kak poor. That's more poor people than South Africa's entire population).

South Africa at last count - [size=20pt]16.6%[/size]

http://povertydata.worldbank.org

The rest of your post is no-response-required drivel that has already been cancelled out by preceding posts.

lezz:
Oil makes make up 90% of government income and not the economy or GDP or cash flow.

You are an idiot. If oil makes 90% of Nigeria's foreign earnings, and if Nigeria imports most of the things that it needs, including refined fuel, where do you think it will get its forex from if the oil prices are where they are? Of course, you will devalue the Naira. Of course, you will have to fight crazy inflation. Of course, there will be less money in the hands of every Nigerian. Of course, South Africa will then overtake (and South Africa has overtaken) you on the list of Africa's richest. In short, individual Nigerians are getting poorer and Nigeria is stuffed. A globally integrated economy requires forex power. Nigeria does not have that. You are weak.

And yes, you continue to face fuel scarcity.---> http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/194084-how-to-end-fuel-scarcity-marketers-tell-nigerian-government.html

And yes, South Africa is the most industrialised nation on the continent. Nigeria is one of the least industrialised nations on the continent. You are a giant weak feet of clay. You are weak.

lezz:
3RD, oil make up less than 20% of Nigeria's GDP. I really feel pity for you genuinely.

lezz:
3RD, oil make up less than 20% of Nigeria's GDP. I really feel pity for you genuinely.

Bwahaha! Nigeria depends on oil for a whopping [size=20pt]90%[/size] of its foreign income and another whopping [size=20pt]75%[/size] of government revenue. Which is why the Naira has had to be devalued, due to the hurtful oil prices. Your national budget assumes an oil price of at least USD70 odd or so. With the oil price where it is, you have a huge deficit. You currently are struggling with fuel shortages as well, which means that you can't even power your generators. Effectively, Nigeria has no energy right now, which in the long run, means you are at least 100 years behind the industrialisation levels that South Africa has reached. Let alone having a globally integrated economy. In short, Nigeria is stuffed.

jln115:
They have mate, the IMF released their figures in April,

Not yet ---> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3/e20d1c88-6e7f-11e5-8171-ba1968cf791a.html#axzz3sirSrGBT

This is October 2015 numbers.

What's happened is that writers said it's possible that it could happen. The $800 billion - $1 trillion numbers that have been quoted here do not exist.

jln115:
1.We drove around, and why the f@ck is the enemy coming from behind all of a sudden??
2. I knew Egypt passed us 6 months ago you slow fvckers, how the f.ck did it take you so long to find out? either way it doesnt change much, Egypt has double the population of South Africa and an abundance of oil wealth it had to happen,but we still have a much higher GDP per capita, much much higher revenue, much higher credit rating, more advanced economy ect ect ect and BTW our economy is set to recover by the end of 2017
3. Rest of your post is tribalist B.S

Egypt has not surpassed South Africa yet. And Nigeria is not yet the 22nd largest economy on the planet. The IMF made 2020 predictions, which illiterate Nigerians sources understood to mean 2015 positions. All this is yet to happen. Not a single country in Africa has hit $800 billion, let alone the comical $1 trillion claimed by Nigerians here.

lionel4power:
we'll get there brother.. it might take time but surely we will.
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long live The Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Tons of sentiment here. We note with thanks your standing down on your ridiculous $1 trillion economy in 2015. Think before you post next time.

lionel4power:
Your IQ is pow.
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But certainly higher than that of someone who posts sources saying Nigeria's economy is worth $1 Trillion in 2015. You have to be a special kind of dûmb to do that.

lionel4power:
lateest news oooo.
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Latest IMF Figures Show Nigeria As World's 22nd Largest Economy

- Egypt overtakes south africa as second largest economy in the world.
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South africa sinks deeper into oblivion.
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Chai now i pity south africa... Theres nothing worst than lost glory that you cant reclaim.
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NIGERIA has been adjudged the world's 22nd largest economy with an annual growth rate of 5% during the course of 2015 according to the latest survey of the planet's wealthiest countries the International Monetary Fund (IMF)
http://
www.nigerianwatch.com/news/8271-latest-imf-figures-show-nieria-as-worlds-22nd-largest-economy-with-gdp-jof-11trn

Bwahaha, there's nothing more sad than a person who imbibes rubbish from a rubbish site, who then vomits it online without a second thought. Your rubbish site is so worthless the author does not even know we are talking about 2020 predictions, which may or may not be. I don't know what's even more laughable: your post or whether you really think Nigeria's economy is worth $1 Trn in 2015.

stillchris:
Still no content

You cannot cancel something out without reading it. That's all that matters, second to the fact that the entire Ireland argument is built on my steer anyway.

Henry240:
What can be more sustained than the U.S figthing insurgents non-stop for 29 years?


Are you a fool? The U.S fighting abroad is not an excuse, as they have the world's largest capability to project and sustain force for over 50 years and the intelligence infrastructure to continually sustain that force for 50 years.

For the U.S it simply doesn't matter where they fight, abroad or at home. In Iraq they had total control of the country, with the Iraqi constitution suspended.


Nigeria has had it's shortcomings in the Fight against terror, but this fight against terror has again proven the might of the Nigerian military.

There cannot be an argument if you do not understand the facts on the ground.

There is no bigger fool than one who wants to argue that if the insurgents were based in the US, the US would fight them for 29 years. That is exactly what you are arguing if you don't want to recognise that the US is fighting abroad. You are basically telling us that a home-based US would fare in the same way as a foreign-based US. Are you a fool, Henry? Is that what you are?

There is no such thing as total control for a foreign-based military. They had to deal with budgetary issues at home, a congress that had to fend off complaints about the cost of the war on the fiscus and lives. Questions about why "we need to be there". Iraqi politics and such. No Henry. Are you really a fool?

The facts on the ground are that armed with a state of emergency and the freedom of the land, the Nigerian army can run as far as it wishes to in Nigeria. It has limited people's rights under the state of emergency. Civilians have offered to assist et cetera. Yet, there is failure. This is unforgivable.

stillchris:
Lol... Andrew.. Aren't you just ignorant.

UK is nothing more than a British empire.

Britain controls the military and provides security to the union. You can disproof that if you wish

British government and troops took over the insurgency war in northern Ireland and Thatcher was the commander in chief you ignoramus

No, the UK is the United Kingdom, which simply means that various kingdoms are united. Which allows referendums about whether Scotland could get out, for example, a few months ago. The fact that Ireland had an army tells you that Britains influence over Ireland at the time, was nothing comparable to Nigeria's influence over all the Nigerian territories where BH is.

Apples can never be compared to oranges, hard though you may try.

stillchris:
Still unable to dispute Britain fought insurgency and failed for 20 years in it's borders.

I don't deal with petty divertive rubbish

LOL we note with thanks you having taken even further counsel from South Africans and dropped the "United Kingdom" stance. Again, until you do away with the argument that Ireland had an army, you will forever fail to equate what happened in Ireland to what is happening in Nigeria.

lionel4power:
boko haram is defeated like it or not..

It's easy to say "BH is defeated". Anyone can say that. The question is short and simple: On what grounds can we say that what is now the deadliest terror group on the planet is "defeated". When you have kindly listed those grounds for us (as opposed to shouting), we will get somewhere.

Henry240:
-Who gave the U.S legislative influence to carry out over 3000 airstrikes in Syria?

- Who gave the U.S legislative clearance to kill Osama bin laden in Pakistan

- Who gave the U.S legislative clearance to carry out raids in Somalia

- Who gave the U.S legislative clearance to carry out raids in Libya

- Who gave the U.S legislative influence to invade Iraq

- Who gave the U.S legislative influence to invade Afghanistan

- Who gave the U.S legislative influence to invade Panama

- Who gave the U.S legislative influence to carry out raids in Congo

- Who gave the U.S legislative influence to tap Angela Merkel's Phone?


We can all see that the U.S is a pariah state, and does not require any law to invade or attack anybody it deems fit.

Actually we do know, how long did the U.S take to diminish the influence of the KKK?


Do you want me to present you with the facts of Nigeria's COIN operations in the last 5 years?

Hahaha, Henry stop drifting. Your argument is based on the fact that Nigeria's failures are not as pronounced because the US has failed to kill off insurgency in foreign lands, where it has been for a long time. So, blitzkrieg raids are irrelevant to your argument. We are talking about sustained warfare here, as per your original argument.

The simple response to you is that the US, without the security of being home, without the power over legislation and such, cannot be compared to a Nigeria that is at home. You deny that because? Don't start "presenting me with facts on Nigeria's COIN activities". Just tell me why a US in foreign lands is comparable to a Nigeria that is home based. It's not that complicated.

stillchris:
It used guerrilla tactics against the British Army and RUC in both rural and urban areas. It also carried out a bombing campaign in Northern Ireland and England against what it saw as political and economic targets. The IRA called a final ceasefire in July 1997
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army

http://theantimedia.org/profiles-in-insurgency-the-irish-republican-army/

For someone in the military who cannot identify what an insurgency is, you seem better off as a navy kitchen cook that you are

Look! It's link after link now. For as long as you cannot deal with the fact that Ireland had its own army, you cannot do away with Andrew's argument that Ireland was a distinct land. Nothing like what is happening in Nigeria.