konvict0111:
No one said you have to be extraordinarily good to be heard. Be you a man or a woman, the need to make sense in your contribution to issues cannot be overemphasised.

This is to be seen as a basic prerequisite in case you want your opinion to have any effect at all.

I have no intention to cause to have a change of heart and I'm certainly in no position to assign you any role whatsoever. I only spoke to the fact before you and I, which is that there's a natural order in the universe and that those who resigned to fate will be happy and those who refuse to embrace this reality will be dragged along.

Take it or leave it, the truth will endure and permeate all history, including my existence and yours and the generations after us.

Don't leave any toxin behind as you go.

"Natural order" from who? Who told you there is a right way to do things??
Your bible or koran?

We are living with norms set for generations and with time we shed some and borrow some.
Nothing new.

Resurgence:


Lol.. Who are you kidding here? She didn't go to offices in search of jobs but still on the street of lekki wearing a casual cloth. Jeans to be precise!

Do you know how many people has been to Tony's firm looking for jobs? People with skill! They didn't get.

A girl stands on the street and you tell me she isn't selling herself. Please

What is wrong with wearing jeans?
You go and wear singlet na... Let's see if you'll get a job. Yeye.
Without any proof, you are quick to throw stones and job a struggling girl.

konvict0111:
You are speaking already and your position on any subject will always be well received so long as it represents superior knowledge.

That for you is the only the caveat! No one is giving you the cakes merely because you have a breast and this with all due respect, DivaFiva.

My advice for you and other female folks is to stir yourself out of the illusion that society or men seek to subdue you in all things.

Face up to your own existence, embrace your condition and assigned roles and try to live a little. This your illusion isn't worth a penny.

What the hell is superior knowledge?
Do I have to be extraordinarily good before you give heed to my words?
Am I asking you for cake? I can bake and I'm ready to get my hands dirty.
It's not an illusion...and you, mister, cannot assign me a place whilst you go about in your double standard for every facet of life.
I'll like to see you cash in on your illusion

chiwetel:
And where exactly is our place??
A place where we are intimidated and forced to give up our dreams?
A place where we are disrespected because we are seen as inferior?I could go on and on,that's more like an animal's place..
I am no feminist, wherever that word came from I just don't see any reason why I should subdue my potentials,and give up my dreams because a society of small minds doesn't tolerate otherwise.
I don't know about you,buh I want to be a successful wife,mother and individual and ofcourse am totally willingly to submit myself in wholeness to a man that not only knows my worth,buh is ready to support me to efficiently utilise my potentials.
isn't that what living is all about?

Ask them.
The word "feminist" now has a negative connotation but everything you said are the struggles of a feminist.
It doesn't mean "death to all men!"
Like you, I want to be seen and represented.
I want to be able to speak and be heard rather than be silenced only because of my gender.

I believe in equality.
Freeze is most definitely an insecure man who spews rubbish to earn a living so I'm not surprised.

Women are just as valuable as men are. And we will get there.
Shebi na this Nigeria?

Oppressed men who have no say in the real world are looking for a woman to wait on them like the princes they can only dream to be.

Your mates are getting liberated from this worldview but not you because it's the only way you validate yourself as "a real man".

bjhaid:
those guys respect our culture

Because them wear native clothes abi Yeye

Resurgence:
I knew someone will pick her up

She is young and beautiful, she also finished with a good grade.

If it was a guy oyo Na your own.

Ad much as I hate to say this. Being a beautiful girl had alot to do with this.

How many other girl has been picked up?
Unless of course you automatically think she is selling herself because she is beautiful
Being a graduate had everything to do with it.
She is selling her skill-set that does not include how good she is in bed. Jesus!

odijeks:

There is little contradiction between what I said and what you posted above. In my post I said Earth is the only "KNOWN" habitable planet and like you rightly pointed out there are possibilities of there being several other habitable planets in the universe. But if you push it further to think that all it takes to create life is the presence of a habitable planet, then you've allowed the scientists confuse your thinking. the habitable zones only relate to planets being able to hold water in liquid state. it is however not the only factor necessary for this phenomenon to happen as I previously noted, cos if it was, our moon would have liquid water on it. Also note that Water sustains life. It however doesn't create life. Water is a very important factor for life sustenance, but we both know that its one of the several things that makes life possible. A CHZ zone, along with other variables, only makes water likely available. So if you look at it critically, a CHZ zone is still a long shot away from bringing together all the requirements for life as we have on our planet. So much more still has to be put in place.



Don't misunderstand me. I'm not discrediting scientists or science. Science and technology has made life a lot more comfortable and meaningful. If anything, I would love for us to increase in our discoveries and achievements as humans and I'm sure this would happen in the future ahead. If people are sincere enough, they'll be able to link scientific discoveries with the truth about God and his intellect. But No!, they'll rather attribute magnificent brilliance to luck.



Its true you don't have to take anybody's word for it. You as well have an intelligent mind and can make conclusions you want after analyzing facts laid before you. These ones understood scientific laws, but they knew that universal laws couldn't explain everything they could see or perceive. and you, if you are African, should be in the better place to know that there are things that could go down right before your eyes that makes rubbish of all you've learned from your physics and chemistry textbooks, signifying existence of supernatural forces not bound to natural laws.


You talked about the Earth being imperfect. that is true. But God let evil run its course till the appointed time when He would destroy all evil and bring back perfection. However, He would judge based on who he is and his standards not by man's standards. Unfortunately for man, God is so Holy that we can never meet his standards. We would always fall short no matter how hard we try. That spells doom for the human race when God finally judges and does away with evil on the last day. What Jesus did was to bring the judgement day to the cross, God judged all men guilty because we really were and He sentenced us to death and hell. Jesus took this punishment on our behalf, so regardless of what happens here on earth, when we die we never have to face judgement for our sins. we are allowed to enjoy eternal life with God even though we don't deserve it. God has already addressed the judgement of the whole human race on Jesus and would never bring our cases back to court cos our cases have been fully dismissed. There is nothing more precious to a man than his life. you could give up everything you own to safe guard your life. But God proved how he loves you by laying down his own life in your place. Many think that sounds absurd, but I know several men that would willingly take the place of their daughter dying of cancer on a hospital bed. That's how sympathetic God was towards us as regards the coming judgement.

Maybe what you should be doing is to really research the authenticity and claims of the bible. Neglect what people have said is in the bible, open it and read it for yourself to actually know what it says.

I have read the Bible and one thing I can say is logic is not exactly a reliable tool to understand the stories and you often run into contradictions, out of context interpretation and differences in bible versions. Because of these limitations (and the fact that there are other religions that may be true), I have decided that the odds of eternal suffering being worse than living poor in Nigeria and making it to heaven to live to praise God day in day out is quite slim. Neither is the chances of any of these stories being [b]100% accurate [/b]looking great either.

I appreciate your efforts to help me understand.

Fourwinds:
rubbish ....quoting nonsense. sins are never same....u can not equate murder with stealing... only when one leads to the other it becomes multiple sins

Now I'm quoting nonsense.
All sins are equal before god...No? If not, kindly provide a ranking.
I can equate murder to stealing because by god's standard according to the bible.
Who are you to say otherwise? huh??

Fourwinds:
u are wrong...from beginning it was one man one woman...d pen..is was meant for vagi..na.... it is/ are wrongly use in pre- marital sex., fornication., adultery because dey break d law of marriage....but gay, lesbian had no place in God's law... it was never instistuted from d beginning....it is a grievous sin from hell... don't equate dem with d others

Basically, you think because the bible didn't say it from the first verse...they are not a part of "God's law" and therefore should be condemned?
All sins have been said to be equal before God.
‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.Matthew 7:1-5.
The bible clearly states that "None is righteous, no, not one"(Romans 3:10) including all of you nairaland hypocrites because For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.James 2:10

odijeks:

1. first off, I never said nature is perfect. I said it is beautiful and depicts an intelligent design. An airplane or a space shuttle is not perfect. yet, it shows an intelligent design. I can't see a plane in the sky and attribute it to a work of nature. "an intelligent being created that device that defies the law of gravity" is exactly what I would think. If there was ever a point in the universe when there was nothing, and somehow through randomness or mere luck something began to exist, why should nature be mindful to create beautiful details? It could as well, and in fact would make much more sense to be perverted, warped and ugly since the formation processes were not directed by any individual, just mindless forces.

I didn't say that...I inferred that the work of an all powerful and all benevolent God would be."Perverted, warped and ugly are are not the worse description people will ascribe to a work of nature. Plus these attributes are very subjective to people, place and time.

odijeks:

2. I've debated this topic of life with several learned foreign atheist. They refuse to believe that God created the universe, but the really smart ones are always sincere to tell me that they don't yet know the source of life. They say this because they've looked at the evolution and abiogenesis theory and know it doesn't make any sense. They don't try bringing it up because they know its flawed. Really study the claims of scientists on abiogenesis and evolution and you'll see what they mean. if you think just having a planet within a habitable zone is all it takes for life to be created then you've not really asked enough questions. Our moon, I believe should be in the habitable zone. why doesn't it have significant water existent? its simply because other factors like the planet's size, distance from the sun and its magnetic field has to be entirely accurate for it to hold water. The habitable zone of our solar system has an estimated range of 104,700,000km. Noting that in the formation of stars and planets, no planet chooses where it would be placed. our Earth had a free choice to randomly exist in any distance from 0-280,000,000,000km from the sun. Yet its the only planet that fitted itself within that range of the habitable zone. even within that habitable zone, altering the distance of the earth to the sun would prove utterly fatal to life. I'm sure you'll still choose to believe that earthlings were just lucky. Most times we ask the wrong questions and view things through the wrong lens. the right question should be "why is there something rather than nothing?" there being nothing is what makes sense. If there was ever a point in time when absolutely nothing existed, it would make much sense for absolutely nothing to exist now. But we can see a lot of things existing now, and not just simple jargon littered around, but highly complex systems.

Earth is not the only habitable planet. It is only the one we have seen. Have you seen the rest of the universe? In comparison, science has only explored less than 5% the size of the multiverse and that include earth. So that is a pretty bogus claim to make seeing that there have been findings of Exoplanets that have the formula for life to thrive.

odijeks:

3. Really? you are relating an Iphone and pencil production company with a complex living organism? an Iphone, we agree, was created by not one, but several engineers putting their ideas together. pencil production is directed by smart humans and programmed machines. Look at the complexity of a single celled bacteria. It can't even be created in the lab by the world's smartest scientist, yet you believe it was put together by mindless forces causing chemical reactions several billion years ago. A process that you believe occurred without any supervision, conduct or aim cannot be recreated by the best supervisors the earth can produce, and you refuse to rethink your idea? my point is, the more complex an item is, the more it stands to reason that intelligence created it. if you remember when you were taught of natural and man-made objects in your elementary school, by instinct, even as a child, you were able to point out without any further assistance, things that were man-made (because you could recognize intelligence and complex functions) and things that were natural objects. Now your knowledge has increased considerably from that time. but you fail to acknowledge intelligence when you see it simply because you don't want to give God the credit.

Like I pointed, humans have only embraced science for so long and yet the strides are insurmountable. From fixing birth limb defects with prosthetics to 3d printing of tissues with blood vessels and everything inbetween. Give humans more credit. To think that you live in a society that heavy leans on doctors, programmers, engineers and you still undercut their achievements is unsettling.

odijeks:

4. If you've read about Albert Einstein, you'll know he's not the type to be influenced by popular opinion or a "follow the crowd" type of person. he is arguably one of the smartest scientist to ever live. If science totally contradicts God, Einstein should have been an atheist (based on the kind of personality he was known to portray). God is not submissive to modern science. he doesn't have to agree to everything our scientists say, especially when it is as regards to events which he witnessed and carried out personally. Scientists are trying to figure out how it went down. God was present all along even at the beginning of all things. You may also want to search for "the missing day" or "scientific proof that the earth stood still" before you type that its not scientific.
God is not afraid of scientific discoveries. in fact, he wants us to discover more. because the more we know, the more we are meant to acknowledge his existence.

I have read about Albert Einstein and obviously, It doesn't take a prophet to know he was a radical of his time but he was still human regardless. Inevitably, a product of a society. Of course you will say that God does not obey science but in the same breath want to prove that God exists with science.

odijeks:

5. Because of God's righteousness and justice, he can't turn a blind eye to evil, hence, there is a day of judgement for every evil act committed. However, God knowing that we can never meet up to his standards (because he is so Holy) decided to take our judgement on himself. Jesus took your Judgement on himself. that is selflessness. He has already paid the price for every evil thing that men did or would ever do so they don't have to ever come into judgement again. All he demands is that you acknowledge you sin and accept his sacrifice for you. its that simple and free. But the atheist's problem isn't ignorance, knowledge or super-intelligence. It's simply pride. He is too proud to accept that he is in slavery to his sinful desires. He doesn't want to believe that he would be held accountable for his wrong actions by a Holy God, so he debunks the idea of this God's existence in order to find that peace he wants regardless of the evident presence of his sins. He is too proud to receive Life that he so desperately needs.

So the ultimate price was being wrongly accused and killed in public. But then you knew you were going to heaven or better yet resurrect in three days. I believe countless number of humans have suffered worse fate with no guarantee of a seat in heaven or an unending reverence on earth as incentive s Jesus had. I'm happy to acknowledge that I do not know but if he was there he is obviously not bothered with what's going on with us, let alone what we do in the dark.

odijeks:

In summary, I always tell the atheist: If I die and was completely wrong about God, I have nothing to loose. For one, I lived a good life here on earth. I know who I was before I met God and know how much better I've become from knowing him (even if he was a lie). In fact, if atheism is true, I would just sleep, enter into nothingness, cease to exist and die like a plant. That means I won't even have a mind or consciousness to tell me that I spent my whole life living a lie. But what if the bible is true and the atheist is wrong, and he dies only to find out he was wrong. He has just committed an error that can't be undone. He wasn't ignorant of the truth. He just pushed it away. It's just not wise to take that chance. You stand nothing to loose by accepting life.

I do acknowledge that I do not know enough to say that there is no God(that's ballsy). In all honesty, there most likely is an intelligent being who set the ball rolling but I will say this though that the people who wrote and interpreted these religious books have pulled the greatest scam that keeps scamming on humanity. This intelligent being probably couldn't care less about the nitty gritty laws religions have invented to have control over how people live.
If God really did care about "what's in the heart", then I'm sure a lot of atheists will have no problem making the cut into heaven. But if I am given a choice, I'd rather be somewhere else than stand in line and praise a God that could easily be praised by stones for eternity. To each his own.

porozhniy:
Equal opportunity does not always amount to equal outcome;- running for a political office is open to both gender, mostly men contest. We have equal rights to own properties, equal access to education, yet a good number of women tend not make use of those rights. Heck! You even have a women ministry, special funds for women entrepreneurs, scholarships for females only, yet more whining. What y'all see as gender inequality is simply women refusing to take personal responsibility for their lives. What proponents of that bill want is simply, i.e:- No fault divorce, hefty divorce pay outs, parental alienation while forcing the man to support kids he may never see again, get out of trouble/ destroy a man's life using rape hoaxes & false domestic abuse allegations, thought police for men, mansplaining, quota system for women . . . How does any of this benefit the men?

Let me put you in our shoes.
You are born to a family that probably preferred a male child but they had to manage you till God blesses them again. You are growing up with older family members saying things like " is that how you'll do in your husband house" like it's her final destination. As an adult, she is often left out from family meetings or property inheritance from her father because she'll be married soon. If she is yet to be married, her parents will hardly let her move out and be on her own, for her own safety.
Finally, she gets married and changes her last name. Yay, she's now woman. She may want to go do her get a job, some women need permission from husband else no job or admission. She then gets to carry their baby, though not disabled, She can be asked by her husband to quit and care for the child instead.
Then, let's imagine she was a Yoruba woman who married into a Kalabari family, what are the odds that this woman would be an elected official in Rivers State LGA with the name Olajumoke Harry??
At every point we are disadvantaged that's why there are institutions to help us up. These don't even begin to cover what we face but it's okay, because, change will definitely come.

theshaderoom:


so in your mind freedom of speech means insulting and threathening people. Do you know that you can assault someone wit your mouth? In the Nigerian legal system assault is the threat to harm. If you are quarrelling with someone and you say "i will kill you" and few hours later the person turns up dead, guess who will be suspect number 1...u ofcourse (since u want to use ur freedom of speech)... Even though u said it in the heat of the moment and didnt mean it.

Dont let freedom of speech put you in trouble o, if u study the law well u will see that there is almost always an exception to every law...One minute they are telling you that u have freedom of speech in constitutional law, another minute they are telling u d exceptions to that freedom in Tort law

Even though the legal system is messed up, they should not bypass protocol.
Let him charge the lad to court.
They should not lock him up just because a "big man" asked the police to.
Tomorrow other people will keep quiet because they don't know what crosses what line.
Tomorrow, elected officials will ask for people to be detained for the most important ridiculous reason yet.
Na so e dey start.

babadee1:


Freedom of speech does not include the freedom to issue threats. That picture is a subtle threat on the life of the dean and police action is justified in this case.

the perceived threat is arguable in the court of law no doubt.
But keeping him in custody and not taking him to court?
Needless to say the poor chap has no chance against a big man.
This is how it starts...Tomorrow, elected officials will demand for the same treatment.

BLINGZ88:
wrong again ma, the bible wasn't written by a white man, it is arguably the oldest history book. It maybe have been altered sometime in the past because of personal interest but all the version of the bible that have been found through out the years have one message. And I rather believe that the sun paused for some days that to believe in wormholes (that have not been observed directly) or the big bang theory that suggest that the universe expanded faster than light which according to ur science is the threshold of speed. U should read up on what u believe in sometimes. Like the big bang theory ( which is the most ridiculous of the all)

I would like to take you up on that argument of the Bible being the oldest history book. If you mean oldest surviving printed history book...Maybe but not today.

BLINGZ88:
In no 3, I kinda agree with u that scientist are trying when it comes to explanation but saying that the iphone is just as complex as just earth 4 instance is just plain crazy. Let me just explain something. A very big rock exploded( the big band theory) which is a probability, and all the galaxies went to their rightful places( probability) and then the nine planets formed in our solar system( another probability). Then earth formed ( probabilty) then protons, neutrons and electrons came together to form atom ( probability) then atomed formed molecules ( probability),molcules formed cells( probability) and so on and so fort till we came to be human beings that can walk and talk. Am sure u have an idea of what probability is , Please, just imagine the amount of independent events that had to talk place uniformly for humans to form, them multiply it for all the living organisms on earth. Then u will see that if we came about through evolution and big bang, then I'm must have been a miracle

I never said an iphone is just as complex.
15 years ago, if someone had brought you an iPhone from today, you would be convinced it was made by aliens.
All I'm saying is everything we don't understand it's workings is deemed complex. So complexity is relative.

Soon after astronomers proved the universe was expanding, it became evident that the universe was once very much smaller. The theory that the universe started from a single point (or very small area) is known as the big bang theory." So it's not a big rock that exploded.
I have imagined the independent event...seeing that I can't see our alternative look if one of the variable was altered, I don't think we would come out so bad either way seeing that we are not so perfect or better off now.

BLINGZ88:
wrong again ma, the bible wasn't written by a white man, it is arguably the oldest history book. It maybe have been altered sometime in the past because of personal interest but all the version of the bible that have been found through out the years have one message. And I rather believe that the sun paused for some days that to believe in wormholes (that have not been observed directly) or the big bang theory that suggest that the universe expanded faster than light which according to ur science is the threshold of speed. U should read up on what u believe in sometimes. Like the big bang theory ( which is the most ridiculous of the all)

You are right, The Big Bang sounds ridiculous but so the the absence of gravity to someone who never of life in space, the idea of a spherical earth to the early Romans etc.
So who wrote the Bible? What are their races. I'd really love to know.
Most of the Bible we use are arguable incomplete not too talk of the alternative versions and changes that happen during translations and over time.
The Bible has been used to justify different inhuman practices and same goes for the Koran. What makes you think what you've been told is ABSOLUTE and won't change with time?

BLINGZ88:
that's the problem with u scientists, u don't believe in God but u still want to think like him. They where the first and I used the term prototype to emphasis that. Asking me if God knew the out come of the test is the same as asking me to think like God which we Christians believe to be impossible

Unfortunately, I'm not a scientist. (Wish I was though). I'm flattered you thought that of me.
I was just kidding when I talked about "prototype-ancestors".
"We Christians" also believe we are made in God's image and the use of knowledge to navigate life is paramount. So I'll use mine.
I grew up a Christian so I know.

dominique:
He posted a subtle threat next to the picture yet he expects to walk freely and write exams. He deserves to be expelled and arrested. Some of these children don't know the gravity of their actions.

I wonder how freedom of speech works...Hmmm

EKITI001:
lalasticlala seun , do you think the student crossed his boundary??

What boundary? Is he the first person whoes picture has been made into meme?
I thought we were a democratic nation...Nawa

BLINGZ88:
Nairalanders u can not leave somebody to enjoy their post without counter thread. Nsogbu dikwa

Enjoy post kwa?
You can learn one or two things and benefit from the counter threads.

BLINGZ88:
In ur 4th reason, u talked about the sun standing still as unscientific but ur science believes in anomaly. U believe in worm holes, and faster than light expansion of the universe, so why can't the sun stand still as an anomaly but oh, u it can't cos a white man haven't said that it can yet

More than likely "a white man" said wrote the Bible.
All I'm saying is the sun moves continuously around the milky way galaxy not earth. So, it can't stand still for it to be daylight.
Some have dismissed it not to be taken literally but poetic.

Oh, they should shut up.
Removing subsidy will eventually help Nigerians if the government actually do work with the money.

BLINGZ88:
Ur 5th reason though. Are u high or something, God wanted to tempt them. They where just prototypes, maybe he would have told them everything leta but they disobeyed... If God didn't want them to know, he would have hidden the tree in heaven rather than leaving it in the middle of Eden

I thought they were our ancestors not prototypes of the real people. But anyway, he wanted to tempt them... I guess they acted exactly as he planned then.

Let me state that I'm not an atheist, yet.
I'm just not convinced that there is a God neither am I well versed to authoritatively proclaim that there is no God.
So here are my rebuttals to your points. @odijeks

1. God reveals Himself through nature
Nature is beautiful to say the least but do not state it is all perfect in it's design. You make God out to be all powerful and all good at the same time hence his creations are perfect and flawless but that is far from reality. There are numerous destructive aspects of your said "intelligent design" from earthquakes, to asteroids hits, drought, flood. Human being are not without our own "flaws" from conjoined babies to people missing parts or having to deal with extra unwelcomed "parts" like being born with a female reproductive organ and a penis at the same time! Some are not visible to the eyes but there are people with cognitive or neurological disorder. The diseases (including religious beliefs) that plague God's images are endless. In conclusion, If there is a God he is either all powerful but one hell of a tyrant.

2. Our Planet Earth
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Earth is not the only planet known to have conditions favorable to life. Exoplanets, planets outside our Solar System, have been found in the Goldilocks Zones of other stars in our galaxy. Actually there's something called the "habitable zone". It's a zone that every star has, and in it, provided water on the object (let's call it X object for the sake of comfort), the conditions (temperature from the star radiation, etc.) will be just perfect for life on X to start. Earth is only the proven because we are yet to explore.
I believe that we cannot be the only planet in the Universe that has life, because there is a billion billion galaxy in the Universe, each containing a hundred million billion stars with hundred million billion habitable zones and a gazillion objects in the habitable zone; who are we to say that none of them contain water AND life? Far from what we think, we are not the centre of the universe. The universe is not there to serve us.

3. Complexity of living organisms
Living organisms are complex but so is iphone, workings of some mathematical problems, or even the production process of a pencil. Point is, anything you don't understand is considered complex. Scientists have worked for centuries to undercover these said mysteries from how rain is formed to the actual shape of the earth to explain the biological workings of living things even microbes and we've only been a scientific society for so long.
For a society that relies on doctors, technicians, weather meteorologists, programmers; we give "God" way too much credit.. kinda like when we praise Buhari,who literally sleeps in the comfort of his bed or private jet( as the case may be), for the defeat of Boko Haram. Meanwhile, there are foot soldiers risk their lives and their efforts are barely recognised.

4. Theist Scientists
The poster proclaimed God "the best scientist"...technically, it depends on which God you are referring to. If I point out scientific flaws in the bible o ye religious fanatics would say it was a miracle and dismiss it as God bending the rule. I'll use the fact that the number of years the bible proclaims man has been in existence has been proven to be non scientific. The bible recorded that the "sun stood still" but that is not very scientific, is it? The scientists you called out are products of their religious society regardless of how radical their ideas were at the time. So yes, we are often moved to call God when we meet something do not understand and in most cases, these scientist did not mention an intelligent being in the aspects of physical world they had explanation for; they did so when they had "road blocks". If your God is responsible for what is yet to be explained by science then we better get ready to see God be unraveled by future scientists.

5. God exists because he impresses this fact in the heart of men
Basically, you said God puts knowledge in the hearts of men so he is indirectly responsible for scientific findings. Well, from what I remember in sunday school, the reason Adam and Eve were banished from Eden was because they ate of the "evil tree" of KNOWLEDGE. If anything, according to the Bible, God didn't want us to know shit.We were to multiply the earth and we choose to be good or bad the die only to retreat to praise him continuously for eternity. A God-centered plan, don't you think? A good God ought to be selfless, I would think.

I know we Nigerians are as religious are they come and many of you would have a "how dare you" look whilst reading my post but for a second, be logical. You really can't win with arguing God with a stauch fanatic. Religion is not even a reliable source of morality, yet we depend on it to make our laws.
I'm not saying religion is irrelevant because it helps us deal with hard times, something Nigerians are way too conversant with; hence religion. But to explain the physical world? Oh please.

balancediet:
As much as I don't support violent men, let's figure out what women. Do to. Arouse the anger. Of men: how many. Women jack their. Husband over trivial issues? How many refuse to cook for the husband? How many make the house inaccessible for visitors and inlaws? How. Many women deny their husband of sex, love, wouldn't let the husband sleep @ nite but laugh and. Give love to others? The list is endless. I think both parties need God in their lives, that'll sure help.

Actually, you are oblivious of the fact that you are a misogynistic pri.ck.
If you are a guy, I pity the person who ends up with you. Her story will soon grace the front page of Nairaland.

uh

kevinberry:
equity and equality can't go together in a society,it either quotas(equality) or equal playing grounds(equity) the former is what is been preached and practice in our world today...you will hear women organizations requesting for slots in public offices instead of them fighting for it just like the men,they will asked to be vice president instead of forming their own party and running for president instead...

The general human right promotes and encourage equity,women fighting for equality just want quotas

But still I still want the world to recognize verbal abuse no matter the gender involved,I want both parents to take care of their child when divorce occurs,people can't be preaching gender equality and then turn the table around making men providers and women care givers when it comes to divorce that is not equality..we need to start telling ourselves the truth

You've got good points no doubt but let me tell you, things are not that easy.
It's like saying northerners should have equal cut off points as the southern when we both know given their situation, the northerners will have no place with education. This is not because they are any less smart but it's not their cultural norm to engage actively in western education as other regions.

Over time, when the gap is bridged then there can be equity i.e an equal playing field for all.
Left to our devices, women can only do so much. We need policies to back us up so when it becomes the norm men don't need to be reminded women are just as deserving, then you can let go.
Divorce laws in Nigeria is not as concrete so I dunno what to say about that but I do know that more often than not, a woman is thrown out of her matrimonial home not the other way round.

troy20:

"...people should learn to keep their hands to themselves but use their words instead" words that are more even damaging and suited to your own strenght as a woman.how smart! Look here woman do you realise you are making a daclaration of war and seeking our support to win it aswell? its a matter of perspective no doubt but that's what it is to us.the eventual outcome of your intentions are doubtfull going by the situation of our phallus-dangling white brothers of the west and europe.let me give you a tip.you will have to raise your sons with the men bred out of them if you want to succeed.

Okay, man, I hear you.
"US" is who? Don't I have a perspective? Don't I matter in this "US" union?
Declaration of war on one sided male domination and abuse, yes.

kevinberry:
you have not answer my question,will you support the government should they decide to abolish bride price,will you condemn verbal abuse towards men as you do towards domestic and physical abuse towards women...

Before the law can be passed the lawmakers will have to keep religion,culture and moral values aside,these were the things considered before they pass the homosexuality bill...

To me the general HUMAN UNIVERSAL HUMAN right have given everybody the go ahead to be whatever they want to be..

There is a ministry for women affairs none for men isn't that injustice and partiality,there is worldwide outcry against violence towards women none against verbal violence and abuse towards men, you cannot support bride price and yet demand for quotas for women in politics,there is no law preventing women from being elected,you can't force the populace to vote for women through special laws it won't work,they all have freedom of thought and freedom to choose their own candidate...

Should I become the president of nigeria some day,I will scrap the ministry of women affairs or I will create one for men too

I want gender equity not equality
Equity(an equal playing ground) equality(the same outcome even if you don't worth it)

The universal human right is equity,that is enough...

Lend your voice in supporting the abolishing of bride price and also in condemning verbal abuse towards men

Good morning

I have zero issues with abolishing bride price but a lot of people will support it cause it is tradition.
A huge percentage of this price goes to the men in the family.
Equity is an ideal in an already equal society. In this case, even if the opportunities do not explicitly segregate men from women, there are underlying religious and cultural values and rituals we have that often suggest that women are less deserving.
All I'm saying the Law should overrule those and have the final say.