Ayomipoe:
Note, I don't know.

There is this problem I run into when trying to advise people. How to earn legitimately and be self-sufficient, despite the fact that everything seems to be against them personally currently.

Providing services online usually involves having some degree of skill and a market to sell those skills. Marketplaces to sell those skills are already saturated and to those that have more (in this case experience), more will be given. The factors you can control are probably the time you invest into upskilling and becoming a jack of several trades. However, this usually involves time-consuming unrewarded labour that may or may not pay off.

How do you tell someone that they need to pick up coding when regular data is a problem and they don't even have a PC of their own? I have run into this conundrum many times this year.

NB. I am sure there are several skills that are not related to code. I have a narrow vision because of my experience, so forgive me.

DonPablo9511:
how about data analysis?

Godswilleee:
What are all of u saying in this thread, it is not d same upwork I am using, no job for newbie, I have watch YouTube video on how to write very good proposal as a data entry clerk, I have not gotten a single interview, most scammer will want to communicate with u outside upwork, by dropping their telegram link on job description and wen u chat dem they will ask for money to secure d job and many odas who post jobs on upwork has not make any payment which is turn off for me also, maybe u guys start upwork like 3-4 years ago wen upwork was still upwork and now u are all in expert level where u can get jobs easily.. But getting jobs as a newbie nw is almost impossible....

qtguru:


Hmmm ok, I can see some high rates but not in my field, but just 2 above 5k$ , I guess there's more to be done. Thanks

That changes my view on high rate on Upwork

qtguru:


Those clients are an exception, [b]the ratio of clients paying that much on Upwork is extremely rare compared to LinkedIn, [/b]it's why most freelancers do both, if anyone makes 21k on Upwork from one client then kudos to him/her

qtguru:


Yes for entry-level people Upworks is good, but if you have experience LinkedIn is better, No Upwork gig is paying you 5000$ monthly.

Codedboy95:


In getting jobs with better pay, I agree with you that LinkedIn is better. Most clients on Upwork lowball freelancers because they know they can always get someone else to do the job for less, Only the "JJC" and enterprise clients pay freelancers really well. But IMO compared to Linkedin, Upwork still remains the best place for entry-levels to get a job, If they research and spend quality time experimenting with different proposals, bio, and portfolio formats.

qtguru:


It's not a scam, I get gigs and it's not a fulltime thing for me. A lot of people just don't research into platforms. Most just assume they'll register and apply just like that, you have to possess a relevant skills, a good portfolio. Also good communication, what helps me is that I take each project very serious and customer centric. Getting gigs hard, but in my case I always make a reference to previous projects. Awesome Screen Recorder is my tool, so I have videos of previous extensions built to prove my competence.

For your field you will have to find out an appropriate format for showcasing competency.

I think LinkedIn has more chances than Upwork these days.

beautycrush24:
It's those that believe the lies he posts here that I pity and those making him feel relevant. Quote me all you want, I won't quote u back.

Keep living in the fake world you've built for yourself. Whoever falls for his cheap scam will have themselves to blame.

recieve:

No form for here

recieve:

Djreloaded calm down

ArticleBeast:

Yeah, but the way he was going about it as if it applies to all contract was funny. And it is no secret or gaming the system like he claims.

Ayomipoe:
True, I am simply a young man. However, I am entitled to my own opinions and I am allowed to share them. Your character is very suspicious and I'd take whatever you are selling as fugazi, even if it is a giveaway to the "masses", caveat emptor.
I will also not be replying to you further, you enjoy confrontation and I would like to deny you that pleasure.

beautycrush24:


He's obviously talking about direct contracts on Upwork. He's making it sound like a huge secret but it's actually there in the open for everyone to see. Doesn't make him an OG like he makes it seem.

Ayomipoe:
Yes, but direct contracts are for those you bring to the platform, if I had a client off-platform, I'd be hesitant about bringing them onto Upwork in the first place. He smells like a scammy fellow, his posts are designed to attract the curious to what must he be doing to earn that much.

ArticleBeast:

Not worth my Monday morning. Have a great day.

ArticleBeast:

Stop lying.

Here’s how it works:

$0-$500 in earnings from a client: 20% service fee applied to earnings
$500.01-$10,000 in earnings from a client: 10% service fee
$10,000.01 or more in earnings from a client: 5% service fee

You are not speaking to someone that started Upwork two years ago. You are speaking to a Top Rated Plus Seller.

ArticleBeast:

Stop capping. Upwork doesn't offer freelancers 3% service fee. Anyway, I know the person behind this monicker . Welcome back

Babtunz:
I feel this might be useful for anyone trying to improve their proposal writing skills.
The image below is a sample of what the client sees when you submit a cover letter or proposal on Upwork.

PS: Image is not mine.

Onlinebar:

Boss my problem is not learning the skills..... I've spent a lot of hours on YouTube and Udemy learning web dev, and I'm still learning. Problem is getting a first client.Its seems having only skills won't cut it ....... I really need mentorship, even if na to do free work for you so I can understand the whole process.

Onlinebar:
Teach me work biko ejo

Onlinebar:

Please what service do you sell on Upwork

freshkpomo:



I Happy as those thieves nor too show for Benin. I remember years ago when I dey school I come enter town go see one of my guy when him bro just touch down from up town. Na him we enter mama put for new Benin make we chop, next thing of full bus just load boys come, hungry looking boys when even make eba for bus carry come . All of them come dey arrange how them want take share 4 fufu, over 10 boys o. As them dey mumu, their D1 Waka enter na there coordination come enter small.

Next thing their politey Carry bowl of eba come Begin shout make the woman give them free soup, the woman give them o. This time Just dey chop but food nor sweet for my mouth again. Next thing them begin plan to loot the woman, their pilot tell them say make them observe the place if him go recover in some months after the looting if not, that nor be better looting at all. I look this woman them want loot so, her business nor reach 15k, though money get value then Sha. Na him them begin order o, finish all the woman meat and soup and the woman dey happy say ahw don sell for thw day. D1 nor chop, pilotey just chop meat (na this two I hear them dey always call). Next thing they started leaving ine after the other to board their bus and then the woman stopped the pilot and told him their bill. The guy shouted angrily at the woman telling her If she saw him eating anything she should go to those that ate. Na so the woman begin run follow them, na so them post her say who want pay go bank (Fair guy with a tattoo). That guy returned from where he was hiding and was trying to sneak into the bus to escape. I just told my friend I dey come.


I went outside stood with a stern look and I was initially taking their bus number, but when they saw me the pilot was looking, he knew my face I looked at the others like who dey observe them, fear grip my guys. I told the woman to go inside, next thing I saw them off bus Engine, I was still there standing and looking at them, then they went to whisper to their D1 who hurriedly got off the bus and walked away this time he was flashing me his cross bag, mehn I don see that old news before make una pay the woman na him I dey. They all started running like termites before they were able to come up with 1k+ that they ate after taxing each other.


My guy was like wetin you do? You don go join cult for uniben?( He was an AAU student). I just laughed and told the guy to look at what I wore. I was on black and black with a timberland boot. When the guys came to pay as they passed na so them greet me bros pass. I am happy those guys don't have so much power in Benin, robbery and rape for nor be here. But the ones in Auchi are well coordinated because it mainly consist of indigenes just like jurists.

Codedboy95:
I’m just going to ignore you, a zero talent, scammer like you don’t worth my time.

Oh You are shocked that I know you are a fraudster ? don’t be, you exhibit all the traits of one, Going about with your talentless, low self-esteem looking for approval, please get a life and stop derailing this thread for people who are genuinely hard working.


What are Mods doing about people like this ?

cc: Dominique

overdrive:
Wait for now.fuel sells for 400/litre in some places.abi na electric car

Mccallistas:
Tk4all if you have swallowed the 1k which Timbs001 asked you to give to me.
Then it doesn't speak well of you.

I know your friends here would look away, but no problem.

Don't think you can do as you please, just because you're given an opportunity.

Someone would surely, one day, give you a dose of your own medicine.

Peace!

Djreloaded:
let's do an additional 10k before the month ends

What a bad month....