You still think you missed out on the bitcoin? Just listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHkrrMg9RUw

It is quite long conversation, but tells the project which is going on in your country... right now!

CryptoCoinr:


Au contraire, the more reasonable calculation would be looking at where 1 BTC has gotten you over the past 2 - 4 weeks compared to 1 SAFEX. Go ahead, I'm sure the math isn't too hard.

Fair enough - 2 weeks ago:
1 BTC: $2703,89
1 SAFEX: BTC 0,00000240

Today:
1 BTC: $4138,42 (+153%)
1 SAFEX: BTC 0,00000476 (+198%)

So where has this gotten me?
Yesterday around 16:00 Naija time this window of opportunity opened up for only about an hour:

SAFEX/LTC: +44.99%
SAFEX/BTC: -22.12%
LTC/BTC: +3.5%

This earned me good money, which I can withdraw from my bank account on Monday or Tuesday.

You really should try to read my post not what you think is in there or at least brush up on your comprehension

You keep referring to 'your post', but your post tells nothing interesting to me; its really boring, mate.

CryptoCoinr:

Call me when any of them (bar SAFEX) reach 10,000 - 100,000 satoshis within the next "11 months".

More realistic would be to see where 1 BTC has brought you over the past 11 months versus the equivalent of 1 BTC in SAFEX in the same period.

Example: If I bought 1 BTC and converted this to SAFEX on September 1st 2016:
1 BTC = $572,41
1 BTC = 2,941,176.47 SAFEX

Today:
1 BTC = $4274.44 (746.74%)
2,941,176.47 SAFEX = BTC 18.44117 = $78,825.70 (13,770.84%)

So to return the question: Lets see if BTC hits $78,825.70 in the next "11 months".

Those are some pretty strange recommendations.

Yeah that's what a friend said as well, when I told him to look for BTC when they were under $50...

CryptoCoinr:


Those are some pretty strange recommendations.

At first they aren't recommendations, as I mentioned this clearly in my post. Secondly I can, with a lot of certainty, say that you have not done your 'due diligence' on the list provided and third, as per my given info in earlier post: If one, for example, would have invested $100 in SAFEX, one would sit on $13,047.- today (SAFEX: $0,024137 at time of writing). That's 130 times your initial investment. Not too bad for a 11 month period sitting on a 'strange' investment. Definitely can't say that about BTC over the past 11 months...

I do agree with you about Bitcoin (BTC) being the future of currency. Though there's some errors in your text, which I think you copied and pasted from some website. Anyway, I general you got the bigger picture captured.

Yes, BTC has started a new future in currency. BTC is supposed to be decentralized, but that's not completely correct anymore. Mining is done by many people, but the block chains are owned by only 5 major mining companies with batteries of superfast computers to mine the BTC's. In other words: the majority of remaining BTC's will eventually be in possession of the 'elite few companies'. Similar to how the current currency system works.

The current currency system is not backed by gold anymore. This is already for a long time not the case. For example the US Dollar is simply based on debt. With the fractional reserve system attached to that, central banks (in this case the FED) can create money out of nothing and have the tax payers pay for it. Without debt, money wouldn't exists. (There's plenty information available about this topic on e.g. youtube)

Bitcoin has lost a lot of its initial essence of being a new decentralised currency. Also the prices are quite challenging for average people to make serious money out of the BTC if one was to go for mid-long term investment. Today BTC broke again through the $3000 barrier ($3180 as I write this), which leaves many people out on the serious cash making scheme. Unless you go for marginal trading, but due to the volatility of the BTC, this will lead in 90% of the cases people being kicked out due to lack of margin and losing more money than they have invested.

Though there is good news: what many people don't even realize is that there are 1000+crypto-currencies nowadays. Obviously the majority of this is just riding the crypto-bubble, but, as you mentioned in your post: Crypto's will be the currency of the future.
I am quite the successful FOREX trader and started looking into crypto-currencies over a year ago. I have educated myself by reading thousands of articles and comparing the bullshit from the potential good ones. There will always be some risk involved, but he... no pain no gain, right?

One should never just take advice from an unknown guy on the internet and blindly invest in anything. I am also human and I do have it wrong once in a while. Though as a recommendation I tell this:

1. Understand you won't be millionaire overnight.
2. Understand that you can lose money, so never invest your life savings.
3. Only invest with money you don't need for the next 5 years or invest money you can afford to lose.

Follow these simple rules and take note of this:

BTC is at $3180 per coin, so buying 1 coin is already a challenge to many people. For people who have 1 coin, the time for that coin to hit $10.000 is a matter of time. Yet with 1 coin you would (if bought today at $3000) only make a profit of $7000. Obviously good money if that would happen overnight, but if you are aiming for that, you actually shouldn't be reading this. What if it hits $10.000 in 5 years? $7000 would still be good money, but it will not ease your financial life long term.

What can one do?
At this website: coinmarketcap.com there's a list with over 1000 crypto's and their ranking. They are ranked in volume traded. Obviously BTC is number one. Yet there are some really interesting other crypto's out there, which have the potential of going places. Maybe not in the same dollar value as BTC, but there some out there reaching as high as $500.

I will not tell you which ones to buy, but in stead I will tell which ones I have invested in. I have done my research on all 1000+ crypto's and I came to my own conclusion of which ones I THINK will benefit me financially. Also take note that losing $1000 is absolutely no problem to me and even $100.000 would give me anything other than a very annoyed feeling. Invest with your mind, but leave emotion and your heart out of it!

Here we go:

1. Ripple (XRP) - Bought at $0.00034 - Today: $0.178301
2. Stellar Lumens (XLM) - bought at $0.00002 - Today: $0.023090
3. Dogecoin (DOGE or XDG) - bought at $0.00003 - Today: $0.001927
4. Safe Exchange (SAFEX or SEC) - bought at $0.000185 - Today: $0.014772

Imagine you have invested $100 in each? Do the maths! Buy, hold, almost forget and sell few years from now is my strategy.

Hello all - It has been a while.This post is no longer valid. The one time offer has expired mostly due to the very very hateful and racial comments I started receiving in my inbox. Luckily I managed to 'train' one serious person (Mr. Olumide), who is doing very well and just wrote to me he is averaging $500,- a month now. Well done to Olumide!

pcguru1:


the only group I belong to is the Marijuana one.

Maybe you can help me...
Recently I visited Nigeria (Warri) and was introduced to local marijuana. High THC and nice mellow, 200 km/h mind state it left me. It goes by the street name 'GEM' or 'BUD' (maybe this is the Warri name only, don't know). Would you happen to know the English name of the seed or even the Latin name of the seed? Would this be the Yoruba strain?

Regards,

Hello all

I am looking for the Latin name of a marijuana seed going by the street name of "GEM" or "BUD". Anyone can help me further?

regards,

I am looking for the Latin name of a marijuana (Igbo) seed going, in Nigeria, by the street name 'GEM' or 'BUD'. Anyone can help me further?

Regards,

There are two more seats available - I have started sending some information out, because of the good market signals yesterday and today.

NOTE: If I see someone posting their email address in anticipation of me contacting you, I can say that the program is not for you. Ask yourself and answer honestly: Did I read the all the messages posted by 'Dogberry'? Probably not, because the ones who did, actually never posted their email address here.

No disrespect, but you are looking at a very interesting, but highly dangerous game. The Forex game isn't for people who slack behind or think someone will make them rich. You are the one, with your own money and with an attitude like that, you will lose all your money. I personally guarantee that. As I said: I don't want to scam you out of your money! I should have added I don't want you to scam yourself out of money!

I actually had to modify this message and add this:
I am actually quite pissed off now for seeing people just sending their email address and hoping I contact them. You really think that money grows on a tree, don't you? This feels like an insult to me as it gives me the feeling you just thought: Well let's see what this guy has to say. nonchalance won't do it! You have to be accurate, precise and alert to join this game. I am potentially giving you an opportunity to actually make your life financially better over time, but with an attitude like that, I foresee you ending in the 95% of the people who fail. I gave these courses in London at a cost price of $3000 for a one day session and a 6 month follow up to 50 people. I have chosen to do this, because I recently moved to Lagos and see the struggle within the country. I see the greed, the corruption and the hardship. I offer this as my charity moment in life and I have just donated $30,000 and 6 month of my time to 10 people, who can train other people (free or at cost)

NOTE: Your email addresses are all blocked - for your own safety!

Assuming you know the principles of investing, I would suggest if it is 2MM Naira to open fixed deposit account for 5 years against 12% interest rate (or what ever it is now), don't touch it for 5 years and collect over 3.5MM naira 5 years later.

If it is $2MM, I suggest to invest it in yourself, buy property somewhere nice and retire in all comfort.

I have been contacted by several people now and I hope they can vow for the no-bullshit-emails I have sent them. We are at 6 people now and there are 4 more slots. Just a reminder to all out there: I could easily charge you $3000,- for a one day session (trust me it cost so much as I attended such courses myself), and in the near future I might as well do that. For now 4 remaining seats available and these will get everything for free!

Just to tell you how much time I needed to become a semi-pro trader: I have spent 1000s of hours studying trends and candlesticks. looked back to historical news and what moved the markets. Prior to that I spend loads of money on proper training. I actually managed to enroll in one of the worlds most Forex forecasters (Bloomberg, CNN, BBC world, CNBC speaker) 12 month program. I really know what I am doing, but as said, I do have it wrong once in a while. As a teaser I have included yesterday's trading results (note that the total profit is over September only - it resets to zero every first of the month) - BTW can you spot my stupidity by seeing the results? (Yes I made a mistake - am not perfect obviously).

Other attachment is how I 'read' trends - I've sent this already to the 6 people enrolled in the program.

As said... 4 more seats available.

buJu234:
i will advice u tht trading forex as an individual its not a good business..

but as a big entity like the banks etc; then there is money..

if u really want to make money in FOREX; why nt do the simple one...

buy dollar or Pounds (but dollar is better) at a lower price; wait till it gets higher; since Naira can always rise & fall at anytime; then u sell.

I knw of a fellow tht bought dollar at 170 naira around July 2014; i got abt $500,000.

today dollar sells for abt 201-205 black market; thats if u see it (cos its very hard to get now cos of Low oil revenue & also capital flight due to the coming election).

can u calculate that guys profits now... it should b over 15M naira

this is the one I knw and do for some small cash....

but all those online forex trading things for small businesses via one funny platform.. I see them as fraud and waste of time... especially wen some said u should send an email later pay XYZ amount into a ABC account...

Obviously you have no clue what is talked about here

A trade I opened and closed this morning - Shorted Gold on the 30 minute chart - That's me done for the week. Time to bring my kids to school. (Had mask my balance, because that's kind of private, right?)

When I am back I will make a more realistic (beginner) trade, as I realized one could be tempted by the high profit, which for a beginner is difficult to achieve. As said in original message: crawl, walk, run

Good luck

johnez4u:


I'm yet to meet someone who is making a living from it..

See my post at: https://www.nairaland.com/3337311/follow-rules-make-money-lots

Achimaechi:
Which platfom are u using?
How much bitcoin do u ve' to invest?

1 - I use Metatrader 4 as platform as this is supported by the brokers I use. Though I would advice to check online what brokers are available in your country and what platform they are using. To practice you can just download the platform (metatrader 4 or 5) and open a demo account. The program/platform is free.

2 - I am not familiar with brokers who use bitcoins, because I trade with US Dollar or Euro (the screenshot I made was from my Dollar account at IG). Broker IG has a minimum deposit of $300, but I suggest to start with a demo account first. Best demo account one can open is at FXPRO - though I wouldn't use them as my broker for real money.

NB: Over the weekend I will check what brokers are available and what costs they charge. Some brokers try to take 'jackpot' costs and have poor margins. Further don't forget (I will remind you very often) brokers are the necessary evil in this game. They want you to lose your money. Upon registration with one of the brokers you will start receiving trading advice via email. This advice is generated by a computer which compares the RSI (Relative Strength Index) with the trend direction and they are quite often completely wrong and will make you lose money. (Like I said in original message: Common sense)

otunbacarter:
Do you do one on one coaching? If yes how do I get in contact with you?

My email address is ken.bellend@gmx.com (this is a made up name, because of huge amounts of 419 emails which will come as well and I prefer them not to come to my private email address. Once we've spoken on Skype, I will give you my private email address).

Yes, I do one on one sessions and class sessions through Skype and webinars. I am the type of teacher you will love to hate. I am very disciplined and expect everyone to be. and trust me you want to be disciplined because you can lose serious amounts of money in just a few seconds (Example: I was on a course in London on the 22nd of April this year where the guy sitting next to me told me in the morning he was long (buy) on gold. Later that morning China sold off 2.5 billion dollar worth of gold which obviously spiked the market to lower values. he was down -$12000+ in less than a minute) - You only lose if you close the trade for a loss, but the risk is that if you wait for the market to come back and keep your trade open, you also run the risk of increasing your loss, going through your margin and the broker stops the trade.

What one needs to find out is which brokers are available in Nigeria (or whatever country you are trading in). Important to know is if you trade CFD's (Contract For Difference) or directly from the broker. With CFD's (what I use) you buy lots of 10 (1x factor 10) and if one would trade commodities that factor goes up to 100. Meaning $1 equals a trade of $10. That factor goes up again by factor 10 (=100) if one would trade gold or silver. Further do I prefer to do the forex, but what I teach can be applied to stocks and commodities too (forex is very volatile market).
Again I have no 100% system (they really don't exist), but will teach you how to minimize your losses and maximize your profits, provided one follows the simple 2 rules! Again... I also have losses, but the good trades exceed the losses by far to result in a positive outcome after a month. My negative record is 8 consecutive 'bad trades'.

BTW: I forgot to mention in my message the time one should close the long (buy) on gold. I typically only trade the London hours till New York opens accept on the first Friday of the month (announcement of USA Non-farm-payroll, unemployment figures and interest rates - my wife actually only trades that day of the month. I have taught her so well that between she started in January 2016 and last week Friday she had 9 winning trades - 1 a month with an average of 800 pips @$1 = +/-$800 a month. She only trades EUR/USD).

Another note: I am not going to teach all about the METATRADER program, but sometimes you will see me do something and you might think: 'how did he do that'. I will explain those things, but expect you to be able to at least make a trade. Also use the following indicators: Bollinger bands, 8 minute moving average (MA), 10 minute MA and 30 minute MA. I mostly trade on the 30 minute windows - rarely I leave a trade open over night as well (as said I prefer the London hours). I prefer to trade of my laptop and hook up an additional monitor; 1 for the trades and the other to search for news. It's not necessary to have two monitors, but sometimes the market isn't moving and no real entry points show up, so one monitor for the trend and one to search the news.

I have attached 2 pictures of a trade I just made. Notice the time on my computer and in the metatrader program (I am one hour ahead right now); A short (or sell) on gold. I closed at $750 within a two minute window (that's not always the case and sometime it takes much longer - note that you always start with a minus amount - this is set by your broker). That's me done for today . Be aware that you will not be able to do a $25 trade just like that. You need to have a significant account balance for that. You need to understand the margins given by the broker - Margin = meaning to make a $25 trade you would need to have at least $50,000 in your account. You will not deposit that in your account when we start, because if you F*ck up you really lose this money. Typical start up accounts are between $300 and $1000 and typical starter trades shall be maximum $0.50 till you really, really get the self confidence to go higher (crawl before you walk) - when I started out I made a $0.50 bad trade and lost $350 just because I went to the toilet and didn't monitor what was happening!!

Last thing: YOU NEED TO KNOW AT ALL TIMES WHEN NEW YORK, LONDON AND TOKIO OPEN; WHERE EVER YOU ARE IN THE WORLD.

Hello all,

I am not here to scam you out of money, but before reading further, I MUST warn you that you WILL have losses. The trick is to minimize the losses and maximize the profit. 95% of the people who start, will not succeed because they have no clue what they are doing. I have not solved everything and on daily bases I learn more and more. Though what I have achieved is a steady income, which allowed me to quit my job and spend about an hour per day behind the computer.

There are two simple, but very IMPORTANT rules:
1. Don't get greedy, because your own greed will be your downfall!
2. Have patience!

If you are still reading, I caught your attention. Let me tell a little bit about myself:
Few years ago I read an article about some genius kid in Europe, who made $72 million in his free time by trading stocks on the stock market. The guy got found out as he tried to buy a car, but because he hadn't reached the legal age for driving a car, his parents were called and he owned up he skipped school to trade on the stock market. I read this and I thought to myself 'I wish I was that smart'. I started reading more and more about the stock market and at one point I came across a platform, which allows me to practice. With virtual money I started to practice and got more and more interested. I discovered you don't need to be a genius, you just need to have common sense.

I enrolled in a few courses where everything was explained as if it was for a 6 year old. No fancy words or difficult to read books. Just normal English. Obviously these courses aren't for free, because they potentially can make you a very rich person and information has its price. I invested approximately GBP10000 in a few courses and really got into it. Now that is a lot of money, you would say, but if you continue reading you will see it was worth the investment.

I deposited €300,- in a trading account and started trading with the things I learned. €0.20 was what I used to trade with. Following the two main rules, I placed my first trade and waited for a while. It turned out that my trade was a good one and I made a profit of €7.00. Not a big profit you would say, but hey this was my first trade with my own money and if €7.00 isn't good enough for you, likely you are the greedy and impatience kind of person and I tell you to stop reading, because you will end up losing your money - I am 100% sure of that.

Now I am 8 years further and long time ago I stepped away from €0.20 and am able to trade with maximum €25.00. I make about 25 trades a month and spend about an hour behind the computer daily. Not completely accurate because there are days I spend a little bit longer behind the computer, but this is when there's news about unemployment figures or some scandal in some company, which can affect the stocks I bought into. Still I am far away from $72 million and I have no ambition to have such an amount of money on my account. Would be nice, but I would probably waste it on stuff I don't need anyway or party myself to death. I am now 42 years and can honestly say that my pension has been taken care of, I own 2 apartments and a house, have a nice car and am financially independed. I can see my kids grow up, hug my wife whenever I want, because I work from home and decide to work whenever I want. I do get up early in the morning to read all the news I can find on the internet and based on that I decide to make my trades.

I got quite good at this and now have reached a ratio of winning trades of 7 out of 10 for a consecutive 60 months. Don't think this came at no price, because although 7 winning trades sounds nice, 3 losing trades can completely wipe out all of your money. There are BIG RISKS involved, but with good risk management, I minimize my losses and maximize my profits. On Wall street they use million dollar costing software with very complex algorithms and they actually score win/loss ration of 50/50%. Still they make millions of profit seen over a year, but also they have there good months and bad month. They leave trades on for several days or weeks, as where I keep my trades open for few minutes only. Obviously you will understand that with €25.00 per trade this can go very quick. In a bad month I make about €2500 a month, but in a good month I make €7000 or more. My highest win ever was recently when I traded the BREXIT where I stayed up all night to make the trades. I made over €200,000 in one night, but such will only happen once in a blue moon. I must warn you that I also had losses of €1600, but over a month I managed to come out on top. Now before you are getting all excited, you will need to start at the very beginning and take your small profits of €7.00 or even less. You got to learn how to crawl first before you learn how to walk. When you have mastered walking, you can start running. Same with the trading game.

If you have reached this point reading, you are genuinely interested and I suggest to download (for free) METATRADER 4 or 5 on your computer or tablet. I wouldn't recommend a smart phone, because of the smaller screen, but it can be done on your smartphone. When downloaded open a demo account with virtual money. I suggest not to go for the high amounts of virtual money, because let's be honest: you're reading this because you want little extra income. If you are reading this on the date it was posted, I tell you to buy gold. Make the trade with $1 or €1 and leave it open for a few minutes. You will see €1 turning into €18 very quickly (virtual money). Close the trade whenever you think you should (remember the 2 rules). Nice, but doesn't always work like that - for the next few days you must make some trades on your own and hopefully you make some bad trades. I don't say this because I want you to lose, I say this because I want you to see what can happen. Once again YOU CAN LOSE ALL YOUR MONEY IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!! (even if you know what you are doing you can lose your money but that because you broke the 2 simple rules.

If you have done all that and are still interested, I can help you - mail me at ken.bellend@gmx.com for further details. I will never tell you what to trade, because I don't want people to point the finger at me if I got it wrong. Though what I can teach you is how to read the graphics and how to find the right entry points and exit points.

Good luck!

Sounds 419-ish - sorry for saying this

Don't you want to know what the lawyer signs for in YOUR name?! Think (more than) twice about this.
I really hope your husband is the one who will take good care of you and is the real deal, but Naija = Naija and 419 stretches far... very far.

Getting married is the easy part, staying together forever is a different thing. Personally I don't think it could work, but I can only speak for myself and don't know the persons in question. I wouldn't marry her.

One of my oyibo friends is in the same situation. He is blind for love, but she will run away. So to answer: NO, she doesn't love him, she loves what he does for her. Her heart is somewhere else.

goldenboi:

Common self control you no get!!!!!

Get or want?

Interesting topic, I must say.

I don't want to spoil your happiness, but be realistic. You know him 2 months and already talk about marriage. I can't imagine myself getting married any time soon, but definately I would like to get the person to know me and I her for at least 2 years, before I even think about asking for marriage. Marriage is for life and I don't think anyone could make that decision via a webcam or via bb box in two months.

It sounds a little desperate to me. May I ask if there is a big age difference between the both of you?
Personally I think he is after your body - Your name here makes me believe you are quite a 'looker' - Don't end up in a episode of 'knocked up abroad'.

Anyway, I can't and won't make any decision for you. It is your good justment, which must make it happen or not.

Little side note: I am an expat myself and can honestly say I am not always a big fan of expats and how they treat Nigerian/ African women. (I go out sometimes and see so many Nigerian women carrying the baby/ child of an expat and hearing them say: "he got transferred, lost his job, immigration rejected his visa and all this bla bla - at the end they just ran away, scared of being sued or having their wives find out back home they knocked up another woman).

The fact that you question this topic here, already tells you that it sounds 'to good to be true'. And what did we learn from the many 419 emails sent in the past years? If it sounds to good to be true, it probably isn't true!

Last: I don't know the person at all and he might be genuine, but there are other ways to find this out than going to South Korea so quickly. It is not you who has to prove this to him, but him to prove to you!

Take good care of yourself!

Interesting topic, I must say.

I don't want to spoil your happiness, but be realistic. You know him 2 months and already talk about marriage. I can't imagine myself getting married any time soon, but definately I would like to get the person to know me and I her for at least 2 years, before I even think about asking for marriage. Marriage is for life and I don't think anyone could make that decision via a webcam or via bb box in two months.

It sounds a little desperate to me. May I ask if there is a big age difference between the both of you?
Personally I think he is after your body - Your name here makes me believe you are quite a 'looker' - Don't end up in a episode of 'knocked up abroad'.

Anyway, I can't and won't make any decision for you. It is your good justment, which must make it happen or not.

Little side note: I am an expat myself and can honestly say I am not always a big fan of expats and how they treat Nigerian/ African women. (I go out sometimes and see so many Nigerian women carrying the baby/ child of an expat and hearing them say: "he got transferred, lost his job, immigration rejected his visa and all this bla bla - at the end they just ran away, scared of being sued or having their wives find out back home they knocked up another woman).

The fact that you question this topic here, already tells you that it sounds 'to good to be true'. And what did we learn from the many 419 emails sent in the past years? If it sounds to good to be true, it probably isn't true!

Last: I don't know the person at all and he might be genuine, but there are other ways to find this out than going to South Korea so quickly. It is not you who has to prove this to him, but him to prove to you!

Take good care of yourself!

I stay single, because I know I will not be faithfull. I can't say for the future, but for now, this seems to be the best way for me.

I picked this topic up from a conversation I heard in a Lagos bar. I thought it would be interesting enough to make it into a public discussion:

If you know the wife of your colleague/friend is cheating on him, would you tell him and risk losing the friendship if she talks her way out of this? (according to the speaker: she has talked her way out already several time when being caught calling or texting).

Fair enough I answer first:
I would discretely provide the proof and anonymously submit it to him and make sure he doubts her loyalty so much, he starts investigating himself. If she talks her way out of that, he deserves to remain blind!

If a relationship is based upon financial status, I would call it business.
'Money is a necessary evil' and many are just a slave to it w/o knowing this. Ready to do everything. Real love can't be bought by money, same as health and happiness. You can stimulate it, but never own it fully when it doesn't come from the heart.

Unfortunately many marriages worldwide are just 'business'.

Don't want to hijack the topic, but I have no clue about these types of wedding. I do know the implications when a court wedding is broken (divorce), but what would be the implication if a traditional wedding is broken? (divorced status too or just separated??) - Is there any legal issue done with a traditional wedding? (Above it is mentioned it has benefits for the man)