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Hairyrapunzel:
.so your leaders now decide the words/sentences that are figurative or literal in the Bible. Lol
When you want to defend your shunning doctrine or the fact that Jesus is coming to slaughter all non jws in Armageddon you say Jesus words of turning brother against brother or this Jesus coming with sword is literal.

Hypocrisy. I no fit laff. Figurative ke

Empty headed people claiming wise, Jesus spoke about the sower who went out to plant, his disciples asked why he used illustration he said to them that he uses illustration because without it, they will not understand, especially those with out Jewish background. Jesus even said that he will throw down the temple and rebuild it in three days, I don't know when Christ demolished the jewish temple and rebuilt it in three days, When he went to Jairus' house to raise up his dead daughter, what did he say to people there? He told them to stop crying and that the girl is only sleeping, but we all know that she had died. There many many examples Jesus use illustration and figures of speech to explain the gosple, He also talked about a Faith the size of a mustard seed, that can move a mountain, was he talking about a literal mountain? wasn't he talking about obstacles that act as mountains to our advancement, both spiritually and otherwise? Why then didn't he uproot the mount of olives if he was talking about a literal mountain? Your ignorance is HUGE!!

Hairyrapunzel:
Speculation everywhere.
Buhaha. You are not even sure of your explanation.
Why do you think your Excellency is the same as most excellent?
I no fit laff. Guessing game.

Bible did not say theophillus had a position in the first place.
Bible was always clear on people who were in positions of authority eg pharaoh, Caesar, pontius pilate, herod, Agrippa, festus etc.
Bible did not say theophillus was governor or president. You just assumed because they address governors and presidents your Excellency in this 21st century.

In a nutshell, all you have just said is just your assumption based on a present day social concept.

Ypu claim to be wise but you are empty headed. Ancient Rome had rules and regulations many of which we stil use today. Many of these things We do today were gotten from the Roman empire. Yes you cannot deny it.

Hairyrapunzel:
Show me where watchtower said it's bloodless treatment is what is used to treat very severe anemia?
Show me where watchtower said it's bloodless treatment is what is used to treat acute severe hemorrhage with decompensation
Abi your watchtower medical textbook has not told you guys this or them don lie for this one?

Blood Transfusion is not the only treatment for very severe Anaemia, period!

Hairyrapunzel:
Show us the Bible verse.

Luke 1:3 Here THEOPHILUS is referred to most excellent or as we say today your Excellency when you are talking to a Governor or President.

In Acts 1:1 He is simply called O THEOPHILUS.
So he MUST have resigned from that post when the Acts was written

Deadlytruth:
You mean the Catholic priests were jailed for allegedly sponsoring the Crusades? Can you quote a source?

Ignorant and proud. I said the Interahmwe! I cannot remember them doing any crusade, they killed people in RWANDA!

Hairyrapunzel:
Show me where watchtower said it's bloodless treatment is now what is used to treat very severe anemia?
Tell me where watchtower said they treated someone with acute severe hemorrhage who was decompensating?
Watchtower will lie and still force you to believe its lies. Lol

blood transfusion is NOt the only means to treat sever Anaemia. Period!

TATIME:
No wonder,you can continue giving them the hard nuts to crack after all they feel they have reasons for avoiding conversation with JWs. Now they can see that they have nothing to say against true faith. The other time i saw a post from an atheist, many churchgoers were ridiculed because they lacked wisdom but when i came in i told them i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and promised all the churchgoers that i'll silence all the atheists on that thread. They mocked me saying i was just bragging but to their shocking surprise, all those atheists were silenced. And guess what happened, the churchgoers who have been ridiculed with all their beliefs now started condemning me even calling and begging the atheists to come back for their right not to allow a Jehovah's Witness dominate their thread. All the atheists that has been commenting in that podium kept mute as if they no more exist. It was the churchgoers that i wanted to help to see reasons with true Christianity that started accusing,criticizing and condemning me for saving their ass from atheists who have been ridiculing them and their Pastors.

hahahahhahahaha! Brother, no be small thing, thier ignorance is just exhilarating.

Deadlytruth:
So which historical account ever said the Catholic priests and Hutu Catholics were convicted of sponsoring The Crusades and Tutsi killings respectively? They were mere accusations as well.
If you can't accept the self confession of one of the culprits, is it his conviction by the courts you'll accept? Or you think it is not that very confession the courts will rely on to convict him?
As long as you see the entire world outside the Watchtower society as under the Devil's authority then you should use 'Jehovah' all the time as you are indirectly dealing with the authorities always.

They are getting caught and jailed everyday. The members of the Interahamwe were majority Catholics. Many are languishing in Jail as we speak.

Hairyrapunzel:
Someone that said he came with the sword a pacifist. Jws are not pacifists o. When you are dreaming of the holy war. You don't support war yet your jehovah is coming to slaughter all mankind who ain't jws. You must be a joker.
Jw using blood transfusion ban to kill jws nko?
See chief killer calling other people killers.
Everytime Catholic church. Is it that you guys are jealous that Catholic church has more members than you guys?
Where is the love when jws clap and praise people who die from refusing blood transfusion?

You guys are soooooo ignorant and proud of it. He is talking about a figurative sword, did Jesus not tell Peter that those who live by the sword die by it? What and what did he say in his famous sermon on the mount? Na real wa!

Deadlytruth:
Remember you started by claiming that the Bible tells you Cornelius resigned after conversion? That is how much you know Jesus. Funny!

I am very sure he stopped being a military man after accepting Christ, he bacame a soldier for Christ, he is not the only one who did it, Even THEOPHILUS did it.

Hairyrapunzel:
USA has the highest number of blood transfusions yearly.
Has watchtower ever told you that their bloodless treatment has criteria?
Has watchtower ever told you that the only treatment for very severe anemia is blood transfusion?

I guess not. Because they want to keep using their followers as Guinea pigs in their bloodless treatment experiment.

Do you know that the polyheme and hemopure(from cow blood) that jws championed as their number one bloodless treatment has been pulled out from market because it was killing people?
Do you know how many jehovah witnesses died from receiving this watchtower prescribed treatment?
Do you know the jw doctor that championed bloodless surgery has been stripped of his title?
Lol. Killer religion just like the rest.

You are the type that information goes in through one ear and out through the other. Blood transfusion is a money spinner. So much money to make, but just that there because people are more informed so they opt for bloodless medicines. That is for those who know, while the ignorant accepts it as the only treatment. The Us military are now in the process of getting rid of blood transfusion as a treatment in the battlefield for wounded soldiers, and they will acheive that feat in a few years. Just watch and see.

Hairyrapunzel:
See liar. You tried to use secular worldly historians to say Cornelius probably left the military after receiving Christ. Liar liar. Your doctrines ain't in the Bible simple.

My Jesus is a pacifist, if yours is a warmonger , then good for you! When Catholic Hutus were killing Catholic Tutsi, where is the love?
When the German catholic chruch father were blessing the Nazi weaponry to kill other Catholics, where is the love? I asked this question since the day before yesterday, but till now I still don't have any answer.

Hairyrapunzel:
Show me where doctors refuse blood transfusion on themselves? Abi watchtower don lie for this one again. I have never seen a doctor that refused blood transfusion when he needed it. The only doctors that refuse blood transfusion are the jw ones.

Lol I never see the height of stupidity.
Show me the source of your beliefs that doctors refuse blood transfusion on themselves?
It is only watchtower magazine that will say this so as to keep lying to their sheeple.
Buhaha

Are you ignorant of that fact? So you are waiting for them to tell you? While you know very well that blood transfusion is a money spinner. You want them to reveal their secret to you. Keep kn waiting.

Deadlytruth:
You mean Google can show me where the word "pacifist" is used in the Bible?

Since you don't want to google it the good for you. Jesus the Son of Jehovah by his actions and words showed every one that he or she has to be peaceful i everything. So if your own jesus is a warmonger, then good for you!

TATIME:
We can't be going to knock on their doors to save them while they drive us away as if they can't talk but behind faceless media engage us in unfruitful arguments, so let them go and seek for audience just as Jesus commanded His own followers. I have several Bible students that i'm conducting their study and some of them do share tears of joy as they are perceiving the fresh breath of TRUTH. So if some people say no to the message, the admonition from our King is "shake off the dust of your feet and leave" Mark 6:11

I mean I am in my shop waiting for customers. So this is one of they ways I keep my self alert both physically and spiritually.

Hairyrapunzel:
The same way jws are happy jws are dying for refusing blood transfusion.
The same way jw ban on blood transfusion is killing jws.
You think it is only war religions can use to kill people of same religion?

Blood transfusion or a medical procedure ban by a religion can kill members of that religion.
Murder is murder.
Now you are bringing Anglican. I know you will soon bring pentecostals. I no fit laff.

Jws doctrine kills jws and jws are happy about it.
Their tribal conflict kills people of the same religion.

At the end of the day people die. Therefore your religion is just like the rest.

And the question is why do Doctors reject blood Transfusion on THEMSELVES? It is a simple question.

Deadlytruth:
You yourself have been using God here and not Jehovah. Awake magazine uses 'God' in their publications more than 'Jehovah', so your defence above is watery and ladden with falsehood.

The article reports that one of them confessed to have shot a woman in the head.
Conviction in most cases is just legalistic formality.
If you now take cover in conviction, then which court convicted the Catholic priests you so much accuse of killing people and sponsoring The Crusades?
Which court convicted the Catholic Hutus and Tutsis you so much accuse of killing one another?
Double standards!

Ignorant and proud.
The started by saying they were ACCUSED, it did not say they were convicted, let us wait for the CONVICTION, it is when they get to court that we will know who did what. This os mere accusation. okay?

I used God sometimes because of the people I am dealing with, but in front of Authorities I use the name Jehovah.

Deadlytruth:
And those outside authorities become more accurate and more reliable than the Bible itself? So much for a believer in the Bible.

Oh lala! When did I say so. It is used to support what is written in the Bible, Just say we wanted more details of what happened. Remeber I the Bible is not a history text book but it make accurate historical statements. How hard can that be to understand.

TATIME:
All of these they know my brother but they're just happy that one of Jehovah's Witnesses is WASTING his precious time on them since they have no impetus to go preaching and teaching from house to house as Jesus commanded. So they derive satisfaction from ARGUING with us the same way Pharisees had no impetus to go and preach but love criticizing Jesus and His followers who are doing God's work. Just say "thank you" and walk away,don't give them that pleasure of audience that they're seeking,let them go and do the preaching and teaching work if truly they are Christians.

Yes true. but I am free at this time.

Hairyrapunzel:
What concerns Hutu Catholics killing Tutsi Catholics with Cornelius in the Bible? I no fit laff.

You even fail to point out that in the same Rwanda Hutu Catholics still saved Tutsi Catholics. You see how you people just hold on to the evil committed by a group and never mention the good done by another group of the same people?

Well you guys are the same with Hutu Catholics and suicide bombers.
You jws are happy to see people die from refusing blood transfusion. Your killer doctrine has killed so many jws and you guys are happy.

Hahahahahahahahahah!
what happened in Rwanda is just one example. Even here in Nigeria, Aguleri vs Umuleri, Catholics killed Catholics, Anglicans killed Anglicans, But I can stick my neck for it that for it that no JW killed anybody during that war. In South Korea many of my Brothers in Christ are in jail because they refused the compulsory military service, they are happy to go to jail. Well I thank Jehovah. I pray to him to use Donald Trump to help North Korea, because technically North and South are still at war, which explains whey Jw are getting jailed for refusing to serve in the army.

During WW2 the German catholic priests prayed over and blessed the Nazi weaponry, the Nazis used this weapons to kill fellow Catholics of other countries.

Deadlytruth:
Ahahahaha.... Evidence of lack of superior argument.

Hahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha! What superior argument did you make? That some bible events that took place cannot be supported by outside authorities? So much for superior argument.

Hairyrapunzel:
Jws are happy to see jw die from refusal of blood transfusion. Your 1994 awake said so. So before you point fingers at Hutu Catholics happy seeing Tutsi Catholics die, clean up your mess first.
When you live in glass houses do not throw stones

Where is the love when jws are happy seeing other jws die from refusing blood transfusion? Hypocrite.
Remove the log in your eye before removing the spec in someone else's eyes. Hypocrite

Of somebody dies because he did not accept blood transfusion, it is not because he or she rejected blood that he or she died, at the end of the day we are still going to die, Now why do doctors reject blood transfusion on THEMSELVES? But are ever willing to administer it to unsuspecting patients? It is simply business, a pint of blood is money, there is money to make, so they prescribe blood, so yoh pay up, here in Africa, it is very rampant, it is not that they cannot give you a bloodless treatment, it is just that it is less expensive and more effective than blood transfusion so there is less money to make, so they ignore the patient and allow him or her die. This is even against the principles of being a doctor.

Deadlytruth:
The bolded alone tells you that false records could exist. Nero falsely accused Christians and documented it somewhere. Some people believe it.
The Jewish authorities also falsely accused the disciples of bribing the guards at Jesus' tomb to allow them take his corpse away, and they documented it and there are people who believe in that account till today despite it is pure human records.
Christins should stick to the Bible rather than conflicting human records.

You don't know what you are saying.

Deadlytruth:
Check this link. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1061766/Two-Jehovahs-Witnesses-murdered-13-people-mission-God-cleanse-world-sinners.html


Two Jehovah's Witnesses 'murdered 13 people on mission from God to cleanse world of sinners'
By Will Stewart for MailOnline
13:28 BST 25 Sep 2008, updated 13:43 BST 25 Sep 2008
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When the pair were arrested, Egorycheva was armed with two axes (file photo)
Two twisted Jehovah's Witnesses have been arrested as suspected serial killers, accused of murdering 13 people during a nine-month killing spree in Russia.
Claiming to be on a mission from God, Vladimir Gurianov, 44, and Elvira Egorycheva 46, hacked, shot and bludgeoned their victims in a case that left even hardened Russian detectives shocked.
The pair were finally spotted in a supermarket in a suburb of the city and arrested. By then they were on nationwide search lists and their photographs had been widely circulated in the region.
When they were searched Egorycheva had a revolver, two axes, an electric-shock device and a rope in her belongings.
Another gun and a knife were found in Gurianov's jacket.
Gurianov - who locals said had 'mad eyes' - and Egorycheva first met at a Jehovah's Witnesses sect meeting 16 years ago.
When they were reunited late last year, Egorycheva allegedly told him she had a vision and they must travel to the Volga region to carry out God's wishes.
She said: "God wants us to go to Nizhniy Novgorod and cleanse the world of sinners".
A neighbour said: "They were very odd. He called her "mother" or "Princess Elena". She called him "my son, Prince Mikhail".
"Gurianov used to say they had a certain mission. No-one took them very seriously but then the killings began."
The first victim was a fortune teller Ludmila Kostina, 51, with whom they made an appointment after seeing her advert in a local papers.
A day after the first murder they went to another fortune-teller, Nina Mashtakova, 66, who they killed before stealing valuables.
One victim was killed around January 10, when Gurianov answered an advert advertising Pekingese puppies.
A 17-year-old boy, returning home, found Gurianov killing his mother, who only managed to scream: "Run, boy!"
Gurianov later boasted to detectives about one particularly brutal slaying.
He said: "I shot at the head of this woman, but she was still alive. I shot her a second time and she fell down, but just as I was digging a grave for her I realised she was still alive and just watching me. So you'll understand I had to stab her."
Also in January this year, Gurianov, a convicted rapist, and Egorycheva met a 17 year-old girl by the garage complex in the city's outskirts.
Police believe the couple stopped the girl, and Egorycheva told her: "Stop, sinner! I, Princess Elena, and my son Prince Mikhail, have been sent by God to punish you!"
Gurianov then allegedly raped the girl, killed her with a hammer and buried her next to the garage complex.
He later told investigators: "Mother explained to me that every woman killed or raped by me would become my wives in the afterlife."
They are also suspected of killing 18 year-old student Masha Maslennikova, missing since May, whose body has not been found, as well as Ludmila Kotelnikova, 45, and Elena Lomteva, 37, whose corpses were found near their holiday homes.
One detective said: "Apparently, they didn't care who became their next victim, whether it was a woman, a young girl or a child. Their only criterion was to carry out the killing in remote parts of the city where no one could help the victims."
Later police asked the pair why they killed innocent people.
Gurianov, clearly enjoying recounting his deeds, replied: "God told us to go and take the money. He said: 'Go there and take as much as you need.' So we did".
One shocked detective said: "Our hearts are bleeding.
"They seem to enjoy talking about the things they have done. They feel safe as well. What is prison to them? Even if they are sentenced to life, they'll live until old age.If ever there was a case for capital punishment, this is it."

Hahahahhahahahaha Hahahahhahahahaha! A lot of things in that fake news do not hold water, First JWs Will call God's name which is Jehovah, we don't say God sent us, instead we say Jehovah sent us, BTW the article says they were ACCUSED, they were not CONVICTED, so they are innocent till proven guilty. Now we know how jealous of JW the Russian OrthodoX church is that it led them to tell Putin to ban JWs there, at the court the prosecution brought out spurious allegations against my Brothers and sisters in Russia and the allegations were all shut down, but still they banned us there, because the Russian Othodox church is the power base of Putin, so Putin will not want to anger his supporters so he odered the judges to ban JWs.

Deadlytruth:
You are the one beating about the bush by relying on human records of history as a confirmation of God's own words.

What human records? That Nero did not falsely accuse Christians of causing the fire that burnt much of Rome? Or that the persecution became so bad that Christians went underground? Even using some signs to identify one another without raising eyebrows of the people around them? How did the apostle I think Peter die? The one that was brutally murdered by being strapped to a horse and pulled along? Was it recorded in the Bible? But we are sure these things happened because some people witnessed it and wrote about it.

Deadlytruth:
Okay Mr. Knowledgeable and humble, tell us the meaning and where it is found in the Bible.

Google is your friend.

Deadlytruth:
I am only no longer sure about the time I read it in an international newspaper. But it happened and The Watchtower society never denied it.

Or you invented in your head? Hahahahhahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Deadlytruth:
Where was the supposed Christian love when some JWs in Russia jumped into the streets and sporadically shot thousands of people in 2005 or thereabouts?

OR THEREABOUT? Which means you are just imagining it. No such thing ever happened.

Deadlytruth:
The point is clearly made already and it is simply that you have accepted you've been peddling conjectures as the word of God.

The point is that you are just beating about the bush.

Deadlytruth:
Is the word "pacifist" found in the Bible? So your God told you that you show love by watching your enemies slaughter you when you have a means of self defence? Even your Awake magazine makes publications in support of self defence. So what then does your pacifism mean?

Hahahahahahahahaha Ignorant and proud. You don't know the meaning of the word, Pacifist!

Deadlytruth:
Mr. Man, why are you like this now? You are still quoting human error prone extra biblical sources to defend your opinion. Are you saying those accounts of history written by man are infallible as God Himself who wrote the Bible? Why are you finding it difficult to just bring out a verse of the Bible which directly or even indirectly suggests that Cornelius resigned from the Army after conversion?

I did not read the nonsense you posted above, all I want to know is Where is the Christian love when Hutu Catholics were busy killing Tutsi Catholics? And they killed Hutu JWs that dared protect and hide their Tutsi brothers in Christ. Where is the love? It is a simple question.

Deadlytruth:
I am not a Roman Catholic hence not debating from their perspective. At least by saying "just like Mary the mother of God, you have accepted that all you have been saying are conjectures too. You have just shot yourself in the foot.

Go straight to the point and stop beating about the bush.