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Deadlytruth:
But you initially said it categorically and authoritatively that Cornelius resigned from the army after conversion. So why the shift of goalpost now? Do you think the scriptures would have omitted it if resignation from the army were a post-conversion requirement?
The Bible itself says that the scripture, as it is, is just enough to teach us all we really need to know in order to please God.
John The Baptist only admonished his guest soldiers in the wilderness to refrain from abuse of their profession for oppression and pervertion of justice. He didn't ask them to stop being soldiers.
The cases of German Nazis vs Catholics were all instances of abuse of the military. Don't religious leaders of every religious group abuse their positions? Does that now make the whole idea of religion evil?

Christianity is not absolutely pacifist as you would have us believe. Christianity advocates self defence where necessary and possible, and defending yourself could sometimes entail physically injuring your attacker in such a way that incapacitates him from further hurting you.
If a Fulani Herdsman comes around with the intention of killing everyone in your family and you have access to a gun, would you take a seat and watch him just because you are a pacifist demonstrating agape love?

Deadlytruth:
But you initially said it categorically and authoritatively that Cornelius resigned from the army after conversion. So why the shift of goalpost now? Do you think the scriptures would have omitted it if resignation from the army were a post-conversion requirement?
The Bible itself says that the scripture, as it is, is just enough to teach us all we really need to know in order to please God.
John The Baptist only admonished his guest soldiers in the wilderness to refrain from abuse of their profession for oppression and pervertion of justice. He didn't ask them to stop being soldiers.
The cases of German Nazis vs Catholics were all instances of abuse of the military. Don't religious leaders of every religious group abuse their positions? Does that now make the whole idea of religion evil?

Christianity is not absolutely pacifist as you would have us believe. Christianity advocates self defence where necessary and possible, and defending yourself could sometimes entail physically injuring your attacker in such a way that incapacitates him from further hurting you.
If a Fulani Herdsman comes around with the intention of killing everyone in your family and you have access to a gun, would you take a seat and watch him just because you are a pacifist demonstrating agape love?

Deadlytruth:
In Biology it is a principle that meat from which blood is 100℅ removed is very whitish. But you buy and eat Red meat from the markets yet you claim you forbid eating or taking blood and blood products. What an interesting irony! The

Deadlytruth:
Since when did conjectures become permitted in defending ones doctrines supposedly based on the scriptures?
If it's non-mention in the scriptures doesn't mean it didn't happen, then it could as well mean it didn't really happen. Conjecturing runs in two directions. So why choose one direction that favours your sentiment?

Hairyrapunzel:
Where in the Bible did Jesus Christ or your jehovah preach neutrality? When you show me a verse in the Bible that says this then your religion is the only true religion.

Someone asked you to mention a passage where a high ranking army officials in the Bible left the military after he accepted Christ? You could not provide any verse. Instead, you started talking of how secular historians said roman army officials became senators because it was easy for them to convert.

You said Christians ain't politicians yet wanted to deceitfully say Cornelius probably left the military and became a politician. Liar liar.
Your doctrine isn't supported biblically. Deal With it. Your beliefs are mere speculations and are based on hearsay by worldly/secular historians.

Hairyrapunzel:
Do you know all you just said are just speculation based on your own imagination? Bible never talked about it so all you just said is poo. As far as the Bible is concerned Cornelius was a high ranking roman army official who accepted Christ.
Bible never recorded any human being who left the military because he accepted Christ. You just made up stuff to justify your non biblical doctrines.

For me Bible yet enough for everything. Since in your religion Bible isn't enough you have to add speculations made up by worldly historians to formulate your doctrines no problem.

But in all these you are not even sure of your doctrines. They are still speculations

Hairyrapunzel:
Google can show me the 1994 awake. Google can also show me reputable medical journals that say blood transfusion is the only available treatment for very severe anemia.
Google can show me that us army has not stopped using blood transfusion. In fact it is the go to procedure when bloodless surgery/medicine fails.

Themandator:
You stretch the scripture to cover human doctrine,somebody cared to confront you now you have gone historical. Just say your church idea of not joining the army is their doctrine with no scriptural support and be be done. Why did you have to bring Cornelius to justify your human doctrine

Hairyrapunzel:
Cornelius was not a Christian. Buhaha. Lol.
See how you are moving goalposts? When your beliefs are not biblically backed this is what happens. Why can't you speak and advocate for human kingdom? Is God against speaking and advocating for humanity? This your jehovah has so many he didn't talk about in the Bible. David and Solomon you guys want to be like were human leaders.
So serving two masters is now speaking and advocating for God's kingdom and human kingdom?
David and Solomon served two masters.

Where did God say speaking and advocating for human kingdom is not advocating and speaking for God's kingdom?

Hairyrapunzel:
Buhaha. It's like you are reading watchtower magazine as your medical textbook. Quote the medical journal that said doctors don't want blood transfusion?
Show me the source where us soldiers no longer use blood transfusion?
Your claims are all lies till you quote source and it must be from a reputable medical journal.
What concerns watchtower with military medical procedure?
Come and tell me where they said the us army used bloodless surgery/medicine to treat very severe anemia?

Watchtower will lie about situations to propagate their killer doctrines.
Your organization kills people.
War criminals kill people. They both use different mechanisms
Watchtower denies that people ever die from refusing blood transfusion even though they put small children who died because they refused blood transfusion in 1994 awake. War criminals deny ever killing people even with evidence everywhere.
Killer organization

Hairyrapunzel:
Your blood transfusion ban that has killed millions of jws nko? Are you guys not still killing your members? Everyone has killed including your organization. You guys are just like the rest

Hairyrapunzel:
See someone that can't check internet telling me to check internet. If I didn't check internet I wouldn't have been able to point out your lies. Rumor monger, peddler of falsehood and staunch liar

Hairyrapunzel:
*Yawns* show us evidence. Don't come here and give us watchtower publication o.
Jws has killed jws via blood transfusion ban. Now you guys are even.

OK then

Hutu Catholics happily killed Tutsi Catholics even inside their church
German Catholics killed French Catholics
Jw killed jws via blood transfusion ban.

Why are you shouting. Your jehovah that you say is coming to kill 8 billion humans because they didn't join watchtower nko? Have you forgotten?

You all are thesame thing. They kill you also kill and you are waiting for your jehovah to come commit the greatest genocide known to man. What's now the difference?
You are just like any other murderous group.

Hairyrapunzel:
See someone that is bright giving reasons for his non biblical doctrines because of hearsay. Is it written in the Bible? NO
According to your imaginary tale Cornelius can Become a politician after being an army officer because he accepted Christ. Yet your jehovah has told you guys through your leaders that he hates anybody joining military and politics.

It has to be written in the Bible for you to follow it. You just admitted your beliefs are from secular story tellers and not the Bible.

Hairyrapunzel:
Peddler of lies. The way you love slandering Catholics. You can't stand when people come at you but you always attack Catholics. Lol

Hairyrapunzel:
*Yawns* show us evidence. Don't come here and give us watchtower publication o.
Jws has killed jws via blood transfusion ban. Now you guys are even.

OK then

Hutu Catholics happily killed Tutsi Catholics even inside their church
German Catholics killed French Catholics
Jw killed jws via blood transfusion ban.

Why are you shouting. Your jehovah that you say is coming to kill 8 billion humans because they didn't join watchtower nko? Have you forgotten?

You all are thesame thing. They kill you also kill and you are waiting for your jehovah to come commit the greatest genocide known to man. What's now the difference?
You are just like any other murderous group.

Hairyrapunzel:
*Yawns* show us evidence. Don't come here and give us watchtower publication o.
Jws has killed jws via blood transfusion ban. Now you guys are even.

OK then

Hutu Catholics happily killed Tutsi Catholics even inside their church
German Catholics killed French Catholics
Jw killed jws via blood transfusion ban.

Why are you shouting. Your jehovah that you say is coming to kill 8 billion humans because they didn't join watchtower nko? Have you forgotten?

You all are thesame thing. They kill you also kill and you are waiting for your jehovah to come commit the greatest genocide known to man. What's now the difference?
You are just like any other murderous group.

Hairyrapunzel:
You even have to lie and formulate things so as to cover up the fact that there was no record of anyone leaving the army because he accepted Christ. Who told you Christians where pacifists?


Where in the Bible did they tell you that being a high ranking official in the the roman army will give you an edge over others in joining the senate (politics)?

In other words, according to your non biblical assumption, Cornelius must have jumped from being a high ranking official in the roman army to becoming a senator after he received Christ? Don't forget your jehovah hates joining military and joining politics

How did you know Cornelius did not get to that extent?
From Cornelius you jumped to Hitler Nazi Germany. You see how you guys run away from issues and change topic?

Thank God Bible was silent on the military issue.

Hairyrapunzel:
You wanna tell lies about Rwandan genocide to justify your non biblical doctrines. Lol
E pain you well well. I understand that you are hurt that somebody has seen the lie you made up. Thanks to watchtower. Always formulating questions from lies so as to justify their beliefs that are never seen in the Bible

Hairyrapunzel:
When you start asking true questions from real life events then we will take you serious. You want to peddle falsehood. Liar liar

Hairyrapunzel:
You want people to answer question from a lie you made up about a real life event. That's lying and being deceitful just to justify your non biblical doctrines.

Hairyrapunzel:
Shut your big lying mouth up. You me to justify your non biblical doctrines. Disgusting attitude. You can't fool sensible people with your Catholic Hutus killing Catholic tutsis. Do you know the number of tutsis Catholic Hutu priest hid from violent hutus? I guess watchtower forgets that part of history. Google Rwandan genocide. Don't read watchtower cooked up lies so as to favor their non biblical doctrines of not joining military. Liar.

Hairyrapunzel:
You are a liar and a propagandist. Because you want to peddle falsehood you tell grevious lies against a religious sect to promote your non biblical doctrines. It's only in watchtower you have a lie about Hutu Catholics happily killing Tutsi Catholics because they want to justify their stance on not joining the military which is not even in the Bible.

Shelumiel:
You are a disgrace.

Hairyrapunzel:
He asked you a question from the bible that fear did not allow you answer because your non biblical doctrines on not joining army is not even in the Bible.

I just love the way you change topic whenever they ask you about your doctrines that are cannot be supported biblically

Shelumiel:
It was a lucky guess.

Shelumiel:
I never said I was .

Deadlytruth:
Please can you point me to the part of the scriptures that expressly states that Cornelius resigned from the Army after his conversion?
The the Roman centurion also resign from the Army after receiving Jesus' miracle? Did the soldiers who encountered John The Baptist resign from their jobs after hearing his message in the wilderness?

Shelumiel:
Read my post carefully.

Shelumiel:
Nigerians keep surprising me with silly comments about disintegration. Who told you that disintegration is the solution to Nigeria's woes? The solution does not lie in the disintegration of Nigeria, it lies in putting an end to tribalism and religious sentiments .Example(I am not being biased o) : the Igbo is a friend to his fellow Igbo..and even at that, some Igbos will tell you ," I am from Anambra, why should I like an Igbo man from Imo? Likwise the Yoruba, Hausa. ..etc. See, let us tell ourselves some home truths : we are too sentimental; especially once it comes to religion or tribalism . Go to America, you cannot see one ounce of tribalism or religious sentiment . Why ? Is it because they more advanced or smarter ? No . They are more unified; their unity lies in their diversity; they put aside custom , religion and even God( if they feel He is interrupting their unity)and rally themselves to fight a common enemy . If Nigerians will copy this template from America, and other developed countries with diverse ethic groups ,then there maybe be hope ,for this failing state called Nigeria

Gerrard59:
Just like most posters have said, the donations are strictly on optional basis. On the other hand, the JWs are good but like Deepwater said, they operate like a cult. Apparently, most religious groups do so but theirs is to another level. I cannot forget them excommunicating my mom because she joined the army. What a church!

But hey! They practice what they preach and are not cacophonous during service.