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raumdeuter:
Players only receive pay increase or cut when renegotiating and signing new contracts. Clubs just don't arbitrarily increase or reduce players salary

Do you know what a contract Is? Alexis signed for 500k a, week, if he cops a 4year injury like cazorla, man utd is still obliged to pay him the 500k every month

Of course I know what it entails, That is not my point

My point is, what correlates with buying the league is transfer fee because that is the fee that doesn't change once a player is signed, the rest can change at anytime

You cannot neglect the total amount spent on players in the transfer market by a club just because you know pep tops the list in that aspect and decide to focus on wages to help yourself

When we talk about buying the league, total amount spent in purchasing players come first not weekly wages, And in this case, Pep comes first in the Mr buying the league contest

raumdeuter:
That's not true. Alexis on 500k a week will earn over 120m in 5yrs contract, so we are going to ignore this 120m paid because it's noir transfer fees? It's part of the total cost of getting a player.

If you only pay transfer fees and you don't pay competitive wages, do you think any player will move to your club?

E.g Barcelona didn't buy Messi but they bought Song, does that mean The money they've paid for Messi is less than alex Song

Players receive pay cuts so it doesn't really add up, once a player has been bought, the Transfer fee is written on stones, it doesn't go higher or lower.. Unlike weekly wages that can change at anytime


Now let's assume Man Utd's first 11 were bought for 90m each and were paid 400k each per month and suddenly they receive a pay cut(100k). how significant do you think the wages will be to buying the league? what will be your argument?

You claimed Zlatan received close to 400k or more, but now has received a pay cut, Right now(after the pay cut) Is Zlatan still part of Your "buying the league" argument? not forgetting the fact that he was brought in for free

Now let's look at Pogba, He was bought for 89m and receives close to 300k a week, let's say he gets a pay cut(150k) can we still use him in your argument of "buying the league".. Yes we can because he was bought for a huge sum

raumdeuter:
The total amount spent is transfer fees plus wages. Zlatan wasnt playing for charity, Man Utd was paying him

there is a reason Transfer fee comes first and is the metrics we use to judge a player when he is not performing, When Neymar plays poorly, people are quick to point to his transfer fee first not how much he earns


Buy Players. Buy the league

raumdeuter:
The same source the money for transfers come from is where the wages come from. 500K a week player means 26M a year over a 5yr contract that is already over 130M. So wages are a huge part of the deal

Give us evidence of what the total package of Alexis is from Man Utd, what he gets weekly

KDB signed a new deal which is reported by ESPN as 260K Pounds and by Telegraph as 280K, that is still less than what Pogba is currently earning, Bring KDB to Man Utd with his new deal and he wil be 3rd highest earner thats even before the reported Pogba deal coming
Still shows Man utd is shelling out significantly more wages than their next competitior

500 + 290 = 790 thats Ma Utd top 2, 280 + 220 = 500K a week thats what City top 2 earn thats about 300k difference before adding Lukaku and Zlatan

Talking about Zlatan, He was on over 350 and in some report closer to 400K a week before the pay cut

Did we buy the League when we signed Zlatan for free? or Sanchez who we gave arsenal Mkhitaryan for?

If Pogba who is our most expensive player earns around 50k per month, what will you make of that?


what if all the players playing for Man Utd right now were bought for 30m and 40m each but receive wages of about 300 to 400k? is that buying the league too?


You See why players' wages doesn't correlate with buying the league? Rather the amount these players were purchased for, Weekly wages has little or no relevance when we talk about buying the league

The question you should be asking is who has spent more on players? There you will find the correlation

raumdeuter:
You hypocrites were the ones wailing about ho Pep was spending money and buying the league yet we have shown evidence that the top 10 earners Man Utd and Mourinho dominates, the 2 most expensive players in EPL history were bought by Mourinho, Non of the top 10 was bought by Pep

But how does wages correlate with buying the league though? isn't the transfer fee and number of players bought the metrics we should be using?

sod09:
you crying manyoo are going trophyless

Trophyless? is that the synonym for Arsenal?

oops! wrong thread

Watching that video of Sanchez playing the keyboard with the Official song of Man United playing in the background over and over again just makes me feel proud to be a Man Utd fan, I was in tears, especially when The song started, my heart lifted just as the Tempo went higher as they sang in unison, The best feeling I have had this year


it's so sad fans of other clubs, especially Shekpe FC won't be able to share this feeling with us, because they are used to sounds of broken bottles and dreams, screeching tyres, and any other irritating sounds


GGMU, the Saints go marching on

but but Mourihno is the only coach players fight with
radarada

Bibidear:
u shouldnt be arguing with him.....he is jealous of manutd's success......ask him the team he supports,u will feel pity for him......a team that has no history......dont let anybody dampen our spirit.......sanchez is coming......other premier league clubs are always jealous of manutd........manutd is far above them.......let's toast to sanchez's arrival and hope trophies follows

Toast to Sanchez Sweetheart, and our new found Love

Oasis007:


........ Redemption?! Perhaps weedtaker is needed to work on him as a Science Student.

Lol, perhaps

Neymar1095:
Your comparism is so stupid and laughable. You bought the watch at fixed price, does your wealth increase the price of the watch after buying it idiot. So how is it comparable olodo. Shekiu bought Man City in 2008 the club was worth 300million. Now it's worth 1.5billion, How dumb are you.

Lmao, okay so now Man City is worth 1.5 Billion not 20 billion? I would have given you examples of things bought at a fixed price in the 80's and is worth much more today but I wouldn't, cause that is not my main objective

Now my question, which you seem to have answered all thanks to my analogy, is this.. Because Man City owner is worth 20b does that make Man City worth 20b?

Shekiu bought Man City in 2008 the club was worth 300million. Now it's worth 1.5billion,

May this confusion not be passed on to your future generations

Oasis007:
But the Dude has already grown up stupid...... except you wanna break a dried Fish, coz it can no longer be bent.

There is still time for redemption

Oasis007:
Dopejemi...... do you want the Niggä to commit Suicide?! The Dude can't think or reasoning outside the Box, he has a Limit and he has already reached the Limit.

All he could come up with was the Gibberish he's spewing up and down. The Analogue you presented to him, as simple as it is, his Brain capacity can't process it.

Just save a Life, and agree to his Nonsense pls. Na God I take beg you.

I don free am oh baba, it's good to school a child once in a while so they don't grow up stupid

Neymar1095:
Which answer? your question is baseless.

I repeat, If Man City owner is worth 20b, does that make Man City worth 20b? I am worth 10b, I buy a wrist watch for 2b, does that automatically make my wrist watch worth 10b? would I not be an idiot to say my wrist watch is more expensive and better than my neighbor's wrist watch which is worth 5b just because I am worth 10b and my neighbor is worth 8b

I seriously pray you are intelligent enough to grasp this, reflect on it, and become wiser when next you come here to run your mouth like a leaking pipe

Bye for now

liveLongNprospa:
Bruhhhh....This analogy

Neymar1095:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_owners_of_English_football_clubs.

Copy and check this out.
Man Utd + Glaser's =4.9billion.

Man City + Shekiu =44billion Dem

I'm waiting for your answer sir

Neymar1095:
common sense. it means Man City can buy who ever dey want in football because money is not an issue. If my father is worth 20billion then yes I am also a billionaire

Did your father buy you? Davido's father is richer than Don jazzy's father, does that make Davido richer than Don jazzy? I ask again, if Man City owner is worth 20b, does that make Man City worth 20b?

if I am worth 30b, and I buy a 2016 Bentley, does that mean the car is worth 30b now because I am worth 30b? and my car is now richer and better than a 2018 Rolls Royce just because the owner of the Rolls Royce is not worth 30b

Answers on a postcard please

Neymar1095:
Forbes or what ever ranking you are quoting don't add the owners money to the club obviously. Common sense will tell you Man City owners and psg Have injected huge personal money to the various clubs which won't be added to the club budget.

Show us your proof that PSG and Man City are Richer than Man Utd, nobody is asking you how much the owners are worth

So because Man City owner is worth 20b, means Man City as a club is worth 20b? you are really bright

Neymar1095:
Lol..... Ode. man United is worth 1.5billion, Your poor owners glazerz are worth 8billion. Shekiu mansour alone owner of Man City is worth 20billion . Hahahahah. Both Man Utd and your owners combined are not even worth half of him. Talkless of psg the richest club in the world.

Can you prove that PSG is the richest club in the world?

Neymar1095:
Shut the fuuuucckk up. Money can buy anything in this world. Man City owners can buy Man United and turn it to waste factory.

If Man City owners can buy United and turn it to a waste factory, how come The number one richest club in the world is Man Utd, followed by Madrid, then Barcelona and the next club is not Man City?

Can you break it down please

Neymar1095:
Man City will be bigger than United. bookmark this

Okay so you agree Man City are a little club compared to Man Utd? and will one day even if it takes 70years, reach United's level

raumdeuter:
Pogba is the answer to KDB, Mata is the answer to Silva
City have no one like Alexis.
Martial Rashford are there

Mourinho has to win the league this season and the next else he has failed despite piling all the talent in the league

in addition to this, we now have two of the league's highest goal scorers last season in our team

Lmao I really like this guy #nohomo

Chelseafan1:
It's okay, you can keep on finding faults in him and pulling him down at every opportunity you get even when he scores and also when he doesn't. So far, it makes you happy.

He scored two beautiful goals today and we won.

So far he keeps delivering titles for Chelsea, you can keep up with not wishing him well, in a bid to tell us that he's a wack player like you've always posited.

Baba Don dey emotional.... Lmao

olril17:
he covers sky sport Italia, not the English one.....its not inconceivable to know sky sports Italia will have different opinion from the main Sky sports......and they both cover different bases and have different opinions mostly.

follow guillem ballague and dimarzio,they both work for sky sports,yet Ballague is so inconsistent, unreliable and totally anti united.....some of this journalists also have their different sources.....or do you always see Di marzio updates on his twitter as part of what the main sky sports has on air? he works sometimes independently,he even has his own blog where you can read transfer updates.

and you are getting me wrong,I'm not saying sky sports aren't reliable for updates,all I'm saying is that in the financial aspect and package and terms of transfer, they know nothing... That's why its better to wait for BBC.

sky sports are totally anti United and mourinho,pro pep and city.
do you know that it was sky sports that Started the inflation of Sanchez transfer to United to make United look bad?
one of their journalists ballague took the United hatred up another level by the now famous "pep or money " phrase, infuriating Gary Neville to even stand up and defend United,calling out sky sports in the process..

when it comes to the real information regarding a transfer, only BBC is reliable.....

I like this guy

That bastard Mike Dean is the Ref? I'd advice you watch this game with little or no expectations

joeace2020:
Choi.. person vex you this afternoon? Dude was saying don't bring logic into this discussion because people like that don't work with logic.. they like to argue based on bear parlour gists. Na sarcasm you just take literally. Anyway regarding the argument Oxlade Chamberlain is now having his best season in front of goal with Liverpool but Wenger is the master attacking coach. Most of Arsenal's best attacking players in recent years left and have gone to be more impressive elsewhere but Wenger will make Miki better and Sanchez will drop under Mourinho. Some people really don't have minds to think for themselves so complete sports think for them.

Na the sun vex me jare.. I stroll for morning when sun no dey shine, to burn fat.. only for the sun to come out like say dem dey pay am for im shift, when I dey stroll back

I don see my mistake sha

afrodoc2:
I believe he was actually of the same opinion as you and was sarcastically implying that the other guy engrelvis was speaking without using logic.

Anyway MRTA can explain better to you.

Oh! I Don jabo

MRTA7 abeg no vex, Biko.. Na the hot sun cause am, I been dey Waka when I been type that shame and disgrace

engrelvis:
I think u r right to an extent.but as for we being above arsenal I don't think it has to do with defensive or attacking mindset of coaches .alot of factors contribute to dat .if sanchez finally comes to man utd let our coach play him in a position dat will bring out d best in him . pogba seem to b operating more from left position now n its paying dividends.best of luck against Burnley today n I hope man city loses

The truth is, we can't tell for sure where a certain player will excel, no Matter who the coach is, not until they get on the field to play, There are some players with talent like Mkhitaryan but they aren't excelling in Arsenal, Ozil comes to mind, We all thought Morata would excel in Chelsea

Sanchez can play anywhere up front, I can't tell if he will Succeed here or not, but if Martial can, I believe Sanchez who is better should

afrodoc2:
Your body too dey hot LOL. You misunderstood MRTA7 there, calm down to understand what he posted and why.

isn't the league positions I posted the logic he is talking about? help me out please

My body been no dey hot sef, I been just talk that one as per say I no lie for my statement

MRTA7:
Please don’t bring logic to this discussion.

I am stating facts, what you choose to make out of it is up to you

Can you back his claim of Mkhitaryan excelling more in Arsenal than Sanchez in Man Utd? because I'd like to believe his statement is based on thoughts and not facts

Was it because of mourihno's defensive minded tactics that made Mkhitaryan not to replicate his early season form?