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if you know that you really love the undergraduate and she's been faithful to you all along, i think you shld just keep up with her instead of the new girl you just met.Being desparate to marry you does not mean that she's serious about you.the film always begin after marriage,once she entered ur house the you're in for the movie.

Stay on that girl that you've known a little while.

these are things that you dnt know,instead of you to ask,you pass different abuses,continue,you'll soon see.

the person that started caving human being out of woods or moulding is one of Adams son,when he killed his brother,he was afraid because nothing like dealth has ever happen b4.he was confused and doesnt know what to do,the satan appears to him and teach him what to do to appease his borther's dealth.the satan taught him to mould the image of his brother and bowl for the image everyday to appease him,unknowingly to him,he becomes an idol worshipper.God has said anyone who bowl for anything except him would be counted among the unbeliever in the hereafter.

ifa,orisa,sango,all are human and not God.Pls dont be brain wash.

there are so many things that God has done for you,look at those things and stop worshipping any idols.

No matter how I try to let you know the truth,your hear wld remain deaf,it's like you're among those whom their ear have being blocked,no matter how you talk to them,it's the same. things of this nature has happened long b4 now. i'm not surprise at you guys.

keep on doing it in your own ways,we'll see who's right or wrong. The time is near and fast appraoching.you not the first,i think you know pharaoh,it was when he was drown in the sea that h believes that it's real but at that time it was late for him.

God is not worshipping anyone,it's for huans to worship the one and only God. He is not a xtian but he's a God of peace. It's a serious thread you started here because asking wat religion God is, is a difficult because many people wld not understand it. It's a little beyond human comprehension. God said he's been doing the worshipn himself b4 we were created.Some people here may not understand this because some does not even know who they are not to talk of kowing who God really is.

Bible is not in any way the word of God,it doesnt even resemble the word of an honest man not to talk of God.the bible tha was brought by Jesus is no more in existence. We have molre than 30 different types of bible 2day and all of them users claim it's God words. Could this be true.

Xtians wake up,you're being deceived by the white antichrist

Davidylan

the reason why you dont see me there is that i only come on board when i am free from work and it's not all my thread that i know,i visit a thread to know what's going on and contribute if the need be. I have some thread that i dnt know i have so dnt be annoyed that i didnt reply to your post.

i just want to know if people are aware of the mission of Jesus in his coming back. Some people believe he's coming to save them after killing and committing uncountable sins so i just want opinion from people and i know u too can say something here.

Look guys,this is a forum that we're suppose to educate ourselves and not causing or abusing ourselves.if you disagree with wat i post,you can keep it to yourselve or post otherwise. it does not mean you know what you're doing or that am the perfect.it's just a forum for enlightment

enitan2002
pilgrim
davidylan

the 3 of you are alike,birds of the same feather,u're 2 good in making judgement and this judgement of urs does not usually have a good ground to stand on.All you use to support urself is some verses in the edited bible.

I suspect u're not a human being,maybe some devilish umincarnation.right infront of ur computer,u assume somethin and u say it out without researching into it. na wa 4u.

What the guy quoted might be wrong but I want you to know that there is power in numbers. Dont forget that,some numbers were dailed on ur phone b4 you talk to other people in other part of the world. if you know the magc behind those things,you'll definitely call the inventor some bad names.

Davidylan

If wat is in ka'aba is wat is gettin you confused or the dealth that's following islam around let me say to you that,people have been working to the downfall of islam right from day 1. The reason is not far fetched,what really amaze them is exactly what is amazing you right now,they wonder how God is able to do all wat he's doing without omitting a sinlge one. Let me tell you,peolpe have been fighting in the course since the time of Abraham coz he's the one that built the ka'aba you just mentioned.

The people are the one that fought Jesus to the extent that God have to interferred. Dont you know the anti christ,it is Jesus they go against or what he teaches.The same people that are fighting islam were the one that fought Jesus.The fought Moses,Abraham,Noah and all the prophet.Why the Islam is more pronounce is because it's the religion that is meant for us all. Prophet mohammed is the only prophet sent to all man kind.All other prophet was sent to their people.

Look at the issue of Osama,they used him to destroyed some nations,their plan is to nail him after using him but when the plan fails,they change the topic to religious crises and called it terrorism. This issues are what we should look into. there are so many proof on the net if you want.

I wonder the type of person batu is,you don't even fear your God before u make conclusion.You that does not even know why your parent name you that name u're called with.you have the mouth to say such things about Islam. Islam means Peace and muslims are people of practice this peace religion.

The reason why the satan got himself into trouble is what people here are doing,instaed of you to ask what do not know,you start jumping into conclusions.
Do you now see clearly now that people on earth now are the end people,judging by what i heard in the house 2day,i can see it that most of the people behind now are not God's own people. Maybe some of you doesnt know that you use english when you say 'God' It's called Allah by the most gracious language God has created.

try and research t about God very well before you say anything because anything you say or do would be use hereafter to judge you.If you don't know,the first sin that nail the satan is his words of proudness. He called Gods names in front of some creatures he was leading before he turned to satan. maybe you don't even know the meaning of satan.

seek for forgiveness if you are truely for God. Islam is not a religion you can just jump into and start doing,it needs lots of knowledge,this knowledge require you to study wat the past prophet have done in their time,how they use their book in telling people how great God is. God said that we shld seek him b4 we worship,if it involves you travelling for research to investigate things that you're not cleared about,just do so.

Submitting to the will of God means one must totally accept the preaching of God as instructed us in the holy book. A muslim must not in any way add or remove to the words of God no matter how little. total submission means absolute adherence to God's way and abstainance from what he forbids.

guys in the house,there is no religion except islam if you like it or not. I've seen lots of things and i'll keep telling you.Any topic you want us to treat i'll tell you.

Traditionalist-idol worshipping starts from the day of Adam-one of his son kills his brother and satan trick him to mould his image so that he can ask for his 4giveness,that was what started building images of dead people.

Christianity-there is no such religion before jesus and Jesus himself does not call his religion christianity,followers of Jesus are called christians and not his religion.

Other practices came from people and not God.

Islam is the only religion that followed me and you to this world because God said We are born being a muslim. Look at rain,when it falls from heaven,it's pure but when dropped on our dirty container,it turns to something else. the same goes for us,when u're born by a tarditionalist,your life become contaminated and unpure.

Truely there is reincarnation and there is a reason for this.believe me there is nothing happening on this earth that does not have origin. The issues start a long time ago when Satan was sent out of the heaven and part of what he requested was to confuse human beings about the ways of God. There are so many things that he ask for from God that God immediately grant him. Being the type of creature he is,he powerful and have the abilities to see our futures(i mean all human being).He has seen all our future wld be and base on this he requested for what can easily cause us to disbelieve in God so hat he can have his ways and win some souls.

part of what he asked for are
1 he want God to permit him to cause doubting of believe to humans so that they wld have a bias mind to the will of God,he was granted to do so

2 he has God to provide him with a book because he has seen that some people are comming to the world with book like bibile,Q'uran and other books,he was granted

3 he asked for so many other things that i cant mention here but the point his he was granted everything he ask from God as a payback of what he's done when he was still pure.

4. Witches,wizard and all other fetish practises are part of what he has for.

In Islam, a good muslim must not bath naked in the bathroom because he's always there with you and he can take ur picks once you're naked,if he has the opportunity to take ur pics then he can put it on and cause havoc with it anywhere in the world.A dead person may be seen in another part of the world but believe me,it's not that person you're seen,the satan has wore the person image and looks.this is why prophet Mohammed(S.A.W) enjoins us to always wear something whenever we're in a bathroom/toilet and never you talk in there.

If you really need to know how the issues of idol worshipping start,then let me know so that I can continue the story.there are lot of things that happened because the guy was sent out of the heaven and let me tell you,no one on earth has served God the way has,that why you shld not rely on what you do to the cause of God because he has the final say.he do whatever pleases him,he's a difficult God that you cant determine wat plan he's got for you.The only thing is prayer,do it all the time and the so called satan wld never move near you.

Before the prayer,seek for knowledge on how to go about it because you may commit sin why you worship and you wld not know. Islam is a religion of peace and it teaches all you need to know.

thonia slim

how are u,wat i mean by look is a pics,once i get that,i wld know if she really meet my expectation. dont be annoyed am just tryin to express somethin

start to date at 16-17 but make sure you dont involve in sex.When you reach eighteen,look for a serious minded guy if that one you had b4 is not good for you. Once you find the right guy,try and take him home at 20 so that people wld know you as friends.

when they ask you this question tell them it is the badest sin a man can commit. Even if the pregnancy was gotten thru a rape or arm bandit,it must not be tampered with.

there are more to it but to put it simply,it is so bad that i can not be quantified

As said in the Q'uran chapter 19 verse 30

He [Isa (Jesus) ] said: "verily, I am a slave of Allah,He has given me the scripture and made me a prophet.

What do you have to say to this those of you that called him the son of God.

Let us know your opinion about the coming of Jesus,what do you know about it and what evidence do you have to support your believe.

it's defifnitely what it was claimed to be reveal to Jesus. A book was reveal to Jesus that the Q'uran called injil. If it is what they call bible by their language then it is but what i know is today's bible is not the same tha was used by Jesus because we've seen so many changes and version and I dont think the word of god is suppose to be updated or manipulated in any way.

Bible of nowadays has ccaused so many havoc to the masses.

Pastor chris has not in any way shown that he interested in preaching the words of God. thou he pretend to preach gosple but he took it as a business venture and not a ministerial job. Dont look at him on tv and believe he's preaching gosple,try and get near to him and his church activities then you'llknow he's a business man.

If miracle is what is deceiving you with,i'll tell you that there are lots of thing that you can use to perform miracles. there are tricks and miracle,mkracle are performed by prophet whom the god has sent to do so but tricks by those who wishes to get people to believe them to achieve their aim.

Pastor chris is a freak

davidylan

I think you now have enough of what you want to know. just try and adjust if you really want to learn because the Q'uran is the only book that's telling you how your eternal life would be or did you find any of these things in your bible. by now, i think you should know that the Q'uran is the word with God that Jesus told you about.

you've learnt so much from those nlanders Scholars. Dont be confused about translations because it's was made by humans and humans are not a perfect maker. English is not capable of presenting correctly what the Q'uran explains. this is why Arabic is said to be the best language and the Q'uran testifies to this that it was reveal in the bet language.

You met your people practising christians does not mean you should do the same coz you can have a change now that you've seen prove.

bari kade

I'm wondering what you were trying to "prove" by opening this thread. You called them "challenges" - but it's rather turning to a circus that you disappeared when Christians showed up! Is that another episode to nyabinghi's drama of developing cold feet? Cheesy

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
.5) is there any verse in the bible where jesus refer himself as son of God or even God

Yes - and davidylan has given you some. In addition, here are a few verses that you should never forget:

JOHN 10:36 -- Jesus said:
"Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"

John 9: (35) Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found
him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

(36) He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? (37) And
Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
(38) And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

John 19:7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought
to die, because he made himself the Son of God.



Mark 14: (61) But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest
asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? (62) And
Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power,
and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Matt. 27:43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him:
for he said, I am the Son of God.

I hope you can see them now? Cheers.


To you Bari kade,

why cant you try and read the history of all this people that appears in the bible's quote.

The prophet made us know who among his disciples we can follow because not all of them is followable. He chooses the best for us to follow and those he choses has been given a reward by God himself for their impart in God's work. So all this mathew,mark and bla bla bla are not prophet and their words should be carefully question and confirm b4 it is followed.

In Islam,we check the words of God on any thing we want to do,if the language used is not so clear to us,we check the hadith to see how the prophet implement it. Others go into details by checking how those chosen disciples also treated it b4 they clearly understands it. so bari kade endavour to know the nuks and crany of everything and not just what ordinary people like you say.

there is now verse where jesus answer yes when they ask him if he's the son of God. Let me reveal this to you,part of what Jesus is coming to do is to tell you people that he is not the son o God and God.

go and find out more about what he's coming to do. submit your findings and let's have a debate.

@ doyenn, many like you have come purporting to be merely "asking questions" only to disappear as soon as the fraud of islam has been exposed. If you want to start a fire make sure you are prepared to take the heat too!

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
.1) in a simple terms,clarify b/w Lord & God, and state any differences b/w them

Can you clarify between 6 and half a dozen?

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
.2) why do you refer jesus as son of God

Because by faith HE is. Unfortunately since you are interpreting things from the standpoint of islam you can never understand where we to explain to you from now till tomorrow.

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
.3) what brought jesus to the world and what are the messages he brought

He came that me and you could be saved from eternity in hell. He brought the message of faith, healing and salvation.

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
.4) to whom jesus was sent to and why

First He was sent to the Jews - Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

then after His death, the temple veil was rent apart and He no longer dwelt in temples built with hands but in the hearts of each and everyone who is accepting of Him.
Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
.5) is there any verse in the bible where jesus refer himself as son of God or even God

Son of God
John 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you

John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

God
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
.6) what is bible and in what language was it reveal to jesus

Thou shalt not compare the bible to the quran. The bible is the Word of God. It was NOT revealed to Jesus because He certainly NEVER claimed to have come with any books.

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
.7) how many prophet was in the world with jesus and state the name(s)

Of what relevance is this? John the Baptist came to prepare the way for Jesus Christ.

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
8.) what book do the other prophet use in passing message across to people

Many of the prophets in the bible from the times of the judges are known to have read from the books of Moses. The laws which God gave them before coming to the promised land. An example - Ezra.

Quote from: doyenn on June 15, 2007, 09:02 PM
answer those questions first before i continue,u'll soon know who is really doing the right thing

We have heard this before, most of you simply never showed up again as soon as u were confronted with superior argument rather than the lame gnashing of teeth, tears and tantrums you muslims throw anytime you are confronted with the illogicallity of that which you claim to believe.





From the answer you gave to some of my questions,it shows that you're not a religious person

1 In my first question,you told me to differentiate b/w 6 & a half,does it mean that those who are referring Jesus as their Lord wld not be wrong to referred to him as their God. People who refer Jesus as their Lord does not really know if Lord & God are the same so they went further to call him God.If you go to any church today,jesus is what most people are worshipping because they believe he's God and this make them to 4get that Jesus was created the same way as me & you. No regard was given in any way to the creator of Jesus himself.

2 what do you mean by faith he is the son of God. cld you explain better?


3 Any prophet that was sent to the world was sent on a particular mission with a specific tools to use in his preaching to convince the people of that time. The unbeliever in the time of Abraham was full of magical powers and any prophet that would challenge them must be able to proof that God has more magic power than they do so Abraham was given this power stick that he uses whenever there is a need for it. It was when he threw the stick and the stick changed to a big snake that swallows their snake was when some of their people cld believe God is great and some of them have to change. So their is nothing special in the healings that Jesus did for his people,those healings was the option he had in convincing his people and this does not make him God or more rated than other prophet.

4.Jesus was sent to the lost sheep and nothing else. the biggest mistake of your life is that you believe he's dead. if you die with this believe then you're done for it. Jesus is coming back to this world because he's not dead yet. God said,any life that has tasted dealth would not come back to life. it's because Jesus is not dead,that was why he's coming back. there is more to his coming back,he's not coming to save people alone but to do his own personal work as promised by God. He requested for something based on what he sees and god promise him but only at the end of time.

5 Jesus said father does not mean the father we know here,jesus said to his people that know one shld call anyone his father on earth because the only father is in heaven which means he refer to God as father and not biological father.


6 bible was reveal to Jesus,mind you,none of the prophet cam with book,it was reveal them. defifnitely you can not compare it to the Holy Q'uran because it's a section of all the msg in the Q'uran. the Q'uran was what Jesus referred to as the word that was with God in the beginning.

7. Go and make your findings well.there was 2 prophet in the time of Jesus.


My point is that,let's stop using Jesus to preach falshood to people,he preaches the word of God to his people,he didnt preach how to make money or perform miracles. he heal those he feels needed to be healed so that they would believe in his teachings that God can do more miracles in their life. He does not in any way preaches wealth or make people rich because he himself is not a rich person.

Am not casting aspersions on christians or their believe just because i am a muslim but because i am also in one way or the other affected by this whole lies and falsehood being place on Jesus by the so called christians. If the people who are making these lies are to be addressed,our generation name is going to be affected and not the only those commited the sins.

This people are makin things difficult for others who deos not know what to do,they get them more confused about who Jesus was and how he lived his life. Should we just sit and watch things go bad. Look at the issue of Lesbian in Nigerian,it has become a well pronounced practice among our people just because nobody cares about what other people do in their neighbourhood. All this things are coming back to tell on our generation and best tools you can use to fight is to disagree with their believe and let them know by saying it out. If you cannot fight it out with physical contact or tell it to them thta what they are doing is wrong the weakiest is reject it in ur mind.

whichever you do,your God knows best what you have in mind and you'll be judge by it.

thoniaslim

wat's up,you appear to be annoyed with my post. Nigerian mentallity,you think in opposite direction in this country,is it poverty or your thinking is black because i dont know what get you annoyed about my post. I dont think I ask for your donations or help so I dont know why you talked about exploiting you. Do you even have anything that one can exploit. As you sound in your post i dont think you have even eaten 2day.

God described virginity as a sealed used in protecting that part of the female genitals that must not be opened until she is rightfully given to a man that seeks her hand in mariage and both parties have agree to get married. the seal is an important seal that if it opens,all the creature all God both on earth and in even wld be informed that someone has lost her virginity. this words was caved out of the word of God.

look at how serious a virgin is in the sight of God,anyone that lost the virginity out of married life have some scores to settle with God himself and if this is the case does she now have any dignity that is so special. A dignify girl is one that is able to keep her virginity till that day and whoever is able to do so has saved his 2 parents from given account of their deeds in the day of ressurrection. think of these huge reward atteched to this.

Christians in the house,have you heard of this in your churches b4. this is the type of preaching that your pastors are suppose to be doing. there is not chapter in the bible that you can find this and dont blame your pastors by not telling you because they themelves does not know. All you'll hear from them is thou shall not furnicate and perform adultreous act.

What is the purnishment for all this 'thou shall not' of a thing. Keep your virginity but if you must deflowered,get married.

it's not the mariage that matters,what God really want from being married is to ensure that both your parent agreed with your plan to get married. A marriage without your parent consent is not a marriage,it's a cheap furnication and adultry.

God does not create us to do whatever we like,there are protocols that is guiding our existence. find out those things b4 dealth claims your life.

why I said so is that,in nigeria 2day most pastors preaches nothing that relate to what people are suppose to hear from them.there is no pastor here that tries to tell people who Jesus is from the teachings of the Holy bible. All we hear them say is Set yourself free from a bondage,This year is your finacial year and all those sort of rubbish that is not suppose to slip out of a man of God.

Jesus does not in one day preach about riches and even worldly things. Jesus happens to be the poorest man of his time because he does not have anything that most of our pastors do. It's not that he cant seek for it or that he does not have the power to create it for himself but he remain the way his God want him to be and satisfy with it.

most pastors 2day ride the best cars that can even make his members to commit temptations. This temptions is what really kept all the prophet away from seeking for riches from thier God because once a soul is tempted to commit a sin thru you,then you're not worthy of being a leader of faith. check yourself pastors,most of your members are into various immoral pastoring actiivities because they want to acquire wealth like thier pastor. this act now brought the number of churches into uncountable figure because every single person is out to setup his miniterial churches out of temptations.

Well it is not their fault rather they didn not meet the era of Holy bible,what everyone is reading now is an updated new versions,those that were manipulated by some evils that called themselves fellower of Jesus.

I challenge all pastors,say all you have in mind

Fellow Nlanders,religion is a the art that teaches us who God is,how he shld be worship and whom we are in his sight,i mean all his creators. I dont know what is so confusing about who is right or wrong when it comes to worshippers of God and seekers of truth.

Let me take some minute to analayse this and i wld want you to post your opinion from your findings and consultations because I know what is really causing the problem is mistake in interpretations of some figures of speech and idioms used by God in his discssions with his prophet but if you take your time to read some of the responses given by those prophet when preaching to their fellowers I think you wld grab the lesson.

for instances,we had that Adam was the 1st creature caved out of mortals and some people didd not take their time to investigate if there were some creature b4 he was caved out but which were not in exhistence then. If you really want to understand the concept that brought Jesus and other prophet into being,you need to go back to history by reading right from when Adam was created. if you take your time to investigate all this all of you here wld know how each religion started,who started them and why. Even the traditionalists would stop calling themselves "esin abalaye' because the religion was not a religion.

All of you christians shld stop fighting for Jesus because you dont know half of what he is. non of you can even differentiate him from your God because you are confused to the extent that you call him your Lord forgeting that he was sent to lost sheep. Who sent him is non of your concern,all you keep telling people is to accept jesus as their lord and saviour when the guy cant even save himself from his enemies.

I am here to criticise ur religion but to let you know that there are lots of things that you dont understand about yourself not to talk of Jesus. you need knowldge to really grab the truth and stop all this criticism about who owns what.

My teachings wld be based on your post but you dont have to take this personal,any discussion here is meant to enlighten us and shed more light on issues that seems confusing.

I want a serious uk lady friends. All interested girls shld mail me here usdoyin@gmail.com and my cell no is 08028460438,8538211