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AHCB:
says who? The same Arya that faced Brienne and got a draw? Come on now. Yara can't match Brienne talkless of match the hound

Haba! The same Brienne that knocked out the Hound and almost killed him? Brienne only sparred with Arya and never even went hard on her. It was a baby sword play and it was only normal for Brienne not to go hard on her.

The number of battles Yara have fought and her dogged spirit says a lot about her personae.

I hate to say it but Arya is freakishly overrated! One minute you're going to kill Cersei, the next you're running around like Charlie Chaplain around King's Landing. Arya is good but overrated.

Fadedvoices2:
I don’t know what makes Arya think she can best yara in a one on one fight ...

Lords are talking and the kid is talking! Such an insult

She has no right to even sit in the council in the first place since Sansa and by extension ,Bran .are already there .

On point! Nothing annoyed me more than Arya's show of insolence towards Yara.

AHCB:
Arya is an assassin. Trained in the art and act of killing. Yara is no match for her.

Arya can't match Yara. As an assassin, her strength is sneaking up on others and not going face to face. She won't even get a draw against Yara.

nihilistjnr:
Jon Snow was never legitimised which is why he was never known as Jon Stark.

His children would not have been starks either. The stark line would have been sidelined for the Snows as the hegemons of the north.

King in the north had nothing to do with the stark name, otherwise they would have given it to Sansa from time. Instead, Jon is named king in the north by the notherners, and then warden of the north by Danaerys....all while Lady Sansa STARK was there twiddling her thumbs

I think you still miss the point. Anyways, it wouldn't have made sense carrying the name of Stark if he were to father children because he is not Ned's offspring and the purpose of masking under that name long faded.

geezyk:
He has already been chosen before Sansa declared sovereignty from KL, And moreover Bran isn't a Stark anymore, he's the 3ER.


Thus from henceforth, the succession plan to appoint a new Kong won't be by blood, but by the lords of the Noble houses

Wrong. Long before Bran was made king had Sansa made it known that the North would not bend the knee. Dany and Sansa's conversation reveals this. What happened during the Lords of Westeros meeting was a re-echo of the North's stance. Bran being the king of a unified Westeros should have been withdrawn there and then but they did not. It doesn't just make sense that a seceded country produces the king in the country it seceded from.

It is unrealistic in real life.

nihilistjnr:
The only person that can legitimise anybody is a king/queen or the owner of the name.

Ergo Ramsay legitimised by daddy Bolton, and Gendry by Danaerys.

No other person can legitimise you.

Small girl Mormont acknowledges this fact by pointing out that she knows he's a bastard, but she's chooses to ignore it.

she cannot say Jon Snow - you are now Jon Stark....and she didn't, because it doesn't work that way

Granted. I hope you saw season 5 when Stannis Baratheon offered to name him Jon Stark, Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North while Jon turned him down just because Jon assisted him in retaking the North? Jon refused for certain reasons but not like that was important though but that Stark name wasn't important in naming Jon King in the North? Haba, which House was he affiliated with? Are we saying anyone can just do some herioc stuff and then end up becoming the King in that terrain if he has no historical ties?

Recall that prior to when Jon was named King in the North, the North was on its own; without a king head. The other Houses came together to pass a vote of confidence on Jon, which was enough or the equivalent of a King's decree.

GRIMMJOE:
Bro it's on TV. .except you downloaded it illegally.smh

Stick to the argument. Most of you shift goals easily when you realize you had no ground or basis in the first place.

For you to have said the Dothraki wasn't invited as one of the Lords of Westeros tells a whole lot.

Anyways, I saw the entire season illegally by downloading week after week, like more than half of the entire fans who make up for GOT viewership worldwide. That said, I'm wondering how someone who didn't download illegally never understood the politics or dynamics of Westeros. So much for paid subscription.

nihilistjnr:
nope.

Jon was not a Stark....

He was never legitimised...and he was voted King.

Stark name had nothing to do with his vote.

Sansa was a stark living in Winterfell with Ramsay Bolton, and none of the northern lords tried to help her.

That name had nothing to do with the decision to name Jon King in the north...

This your argument ehn... Jon was always known to all and sundry as the bastard of of House Stark. It was an open secret and that they chose him meant they legitimized him, just as Dany did Gendry and Lord Bolton did Ramsay. A bastard cannot be regarded as the Lord or Head except he is legitimized. Arya mentioned this too in the garden just before Bran spilled the secret to the Stark girls. This isn't even supposed to be a topic up for discussion.

None of them tried to help because the Northern Houses are not equal and the greater ones had betrayed House Stark. The lesser ones looked on and pretended until Jon rallied round. As much as he was regarded a bastard, he was known as Ed's offspring, which was only natural.

nihilistjnr:
It does apply to the north in theory - The king in the north was actually chosen.

The king in the North was chosen by the North long before Sansa started scheming full time. Jon was the king in the North by consensus of other Northern Houses. It could have been anyone from House Stark at the time but it fell on him.

House Stark has always been the most respected of the other Houses in North. So much so that other Houses pledged their allegiance to the House.

Sansa was never chosen. I believe it was how House Stark was revered by other Northern Houses that made them crown her being the eldest of the two daughters.

Notice when Sansa mentioned that Bran is impotent and the response of Tyrion... It was to a unified Westeros and not general. There would be no such as a general decree binding on both countries save both come together to sign a pact. In a situation or case as how they choose their Kings or Queens, such pact would be meaningless.

Maxcollins042:
Wow, this is the worst deus ex machina from HBO. Skeevy and convoluted I must say.

I wish George Martin had finished his books prior to this season finale making and release.

There is no device such as Deus ex Machina in the season finale. Nothing of such.

GRIMMJOE:
Yeah you watch the back of the television,in a vote consisting of 12 Members,6 are from the north, Fuçk the dorthraki didn't even get to vote.spits

Sadly it is a show not televised. I wonder where you saw yours?

Two different conclusions were reached at that spot;

1. That Bran would be King
2. That the North would become a sovereign territory

For Bran and future kings of a unified Westeros, they would no longer rule by bloodlines but by choosing.

The above does not apply to the North as they are a sovereign state.

That said, could you point or reference a time when Dosh Khaleen or any Dothraki leader came to King's Landing as a leader or something? Lol!

That the Unsullied and the Dothraki came with Dany doesn't mean they are stake holders in the unified Westeros project. They never have been.

Some of you just love to argue even when you don't have a better understanding of the subject matter.

GRIMMJOE:
So explain why a Northerner would rule 6 different kingdom except his.. sounds stupid to me

before you bring up sansa the north has gone through so much,remember the hell westrous just went through

See, I already highlighted this in my first post on the thread today. It is ridiculous that the North was allowed to secede when the ruler of Westeros is from the North.

I don't fancy the North nor House Stark. I have always seen them in different light, even since the death of Rob.

Regardless, the decree about the leader being chosen is in respect to the Iron Throne and not the North.

GRIMMJOE:
That's not gonna happen "From now on ruler will not be born,they will be chosen "

That was said about Westeros and not the North.