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TV/Movies / Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by DP84: 10:16pm On Apr 29, 2019
HanksAnuku:


Valyrian steel is rare because Valyria no longer exists.

Can you back up your claim that armour cannot stop Valyrian steel swords? Has that been seen or said in the show or books?
Not necessarily, at the emboldened. I think you should understand why 'it had to be Valyrian Steel' and not even Dragon Glass or just any metal.

Valyrian Steel are supposedly forged with Dragon Fire, according to legend. Every Valyrian Steel is said to contain magic spells, giving it magical characteristics. Besides, most typical swords can comfortably pierce through armours, depending on how it is forged, the type of armour and all.

So regardless of how huge or little the steel is, it still carries the same power as the other forged Valyrian Steel. One could even argue that the Night King's knowledge of Jon being in possession of the Steel was what made him reanimate fresh bodies in order to defending himself. The Night King saw the power of the steel in the previous season.

The steel is not just rare because Valyria not longer existed. The argument would be the number of Dragons available, spell casters to fuse the spell and the Dragon fire in order to forge to steel.

An armour wouldn't have been able to stop the power of the steel.

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TV/Movies / Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by DP84: 8:31pm On Apr 29, 2019
HanksAnuku:


Most of Sansa fans here were saying she wasn't useless.

My nigga yonce must have choked on her morning coffee when she heard Sansa admit her lack of iwulo
No one can say the emboldened with a straight face, as far as Episode 3 of Season 8 is concerned.
TV/Movies / Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by DP84: 8:19pm On Apr 29, 2019
HanksAnuku:
Sansa being sent to the crypts like a 2 year old, on her account of her incompetence, just highlights exactly how useless she is.

The lady of winterfell, owner of the house, the onile, bundled underground, whilst the little gobshite Lyanna stayed up, and even murked a giant ffs.

I'd rather she hide than come out and run around like Samwell Tarly who was more useless than the 'D' in Django on the battlefield. I believe she also highlighted this through Tyrion's eyes, that they are 'useless' and would die the moment the go up there. She also mentioned the heroic thing to do, which is to live with the fact that they can't help.

Lyanna's death was poorly scripted. She acted as an 'amplifier', rechoing instructions that were made at the archers posts and spent every moment in front of the gate before being slapped away. Nothing was more annoying than the 'faint' staggering'she did before being slapped by the undead free folk giant.

Recall it was Arya that even asked Sansa to go to take cover in the crypt. Not like she would have preferred to war in the first place though.We honestly need to be fair to her even though most fans consider her to be slow and somewhat useless; even Clegane cowered like a baby at some point and hid while 'little' Arya was fighting.
TV/Movies / Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by DP84: 6:18pm On Apr 29, 2019
Lana1:
Great point. But my problem here is the misuse of cavalry in battles not using the destruction of the Dothraki to shape Dany's emotions and thought process.
I get. I noticed it the moment they charged and thought it was wrong on my levels. But after seeing the producers' reviews, I understood why it had to be. I share your line of thought though.
TV/Movies / Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by DP84: 5:48pm On Apr 29, 2019
Lana1:
Speaking from a real life point of view and my own understanding of warfare, i still dont get why they charge cavalry first in GoT battles.

Cav is not meant to be the main attacking force of any army. They are majorly supposed to be for maneuvering and outflanking enemy forces like the knights of the vale did at the battle of bastârds.

Whose idea was it to charge in all the Dothraki from the start? Charging cav head on didn't work for team Jon against Ramsay but they still proceeded to do it anyways against an enemy that outnumbered them at least 2 to 1? SMH.
It honestly doesn't make sense from a real life point of view but I believe the essence of the charge is to cascade the plot; they die, Dany abandons the the plan, charges off on her own to fight, Jon follows after her, ditching the 'we'll thought out plan' they had conceived.

I also believe it is was to heighten the fear of viewers. The Dothraki were thought to be a myth of 'screaming, insane, fearless, brutal' fighters, yet they got wiped out in less than two minutes upon coming in contact with the dead. The few that returned did so cowering in fear; preaching to our consciousness how the allied forces stood no chance against the army of the undead.

Their unwise move was to effortlessly transit and explain why Dany abandoned the plan. In my opinion, it was lazy writing. They could have chosen another reason for Dany and not that.
TV/Movies / Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by DP84: 5:24pm On Apr 29, 2019
To those claiming the Night King died easy, you all forget he wasn't the centre of the story in the first place. As a matter of fact, he qualifies more as the foil character of Bran and he very well projected that right from the latter part of season 7.

The newly released episode would go down as one of the best fight scenes in any movie. The palpable tension that lasted for over five minutes at the very start of the episode, the seeming fear that leaked out of the screen directly to fans and viewers all over the world, owing to the unpredictable nature of the series; who would die and who wouldn't, the long minutes spent on unspoken words, etc.

It was obvious the living had a plan and it failed woefully as the Night King took advantage of the hour of the battle (night) and the snowy condition of Winterfell. He clearly had his own plans and being in his element, he was clearly unstoppable. The Night King's Snowstorm distablized the 2-1 dragon fight Dany and Jon had planned and assisted in cushioning the damage he would have suffered.

While he has been known to be ruthless, nowhere was it revealed that Night King was good at close, hand-to-hand combat and HBO made sure no one thought about this, let alone think of this as a weakness.

His generals had close combats in the 7th season against the likes of Jon and the Wildlings and they fought well and I believe it made many believe the Night King would be more of a better fight knowing that he turned them.

The focus of the season and the show is on who gets the Iron Throne and rules the 7 kingdoms and not on the dead and the living. I have always thought a prequel would be a good idea; a prequel detailing the life of the Children and the First Men but with how HBO quickly turned away from the Night King, it is obvious the climax hasn't even arrived yet. This is a 13-episode season and the Night King has been laid to rest in just episode 3, meaning the next 10 is where the climax is laced.

The Night King has always been lazy and a discerning viewer would have seen this. His strength is in reanimation and turning the reanimated against the living/ nothing more. If anyone was expecting a Thanos vs MCU-without Gauntlet-war, then you are better off seeing Endgame.

There is the subliminal message of last week in Podrick's 'Jenny's Song' and it has been attributed to Dany and Jon (and she never wanted to leave), today's hint at Sansa and Tyrion's supposed 'rekindled' relationship and the view of the former on how Tyrion's loyalty would be divided between Dany, her Queen and her, his wife.

For all it's worth, there are still many twists and turns in this show. The Night King was never supposed to take centre stage. Everyone feared him and paid more attention to him when he speared one of Dany's dragons from the sky. Take away his excellent throwing ability and his scary reanimation strength and we are left with Frozone/Blizzard/Sub-Zero/Elsa of Disney/Mr Freeze/Killer Frost.

Villains have fans and despite knowing they would go down, people expect a Thanos kind of outro for the Night King. If anyone feels the writers are horrible, a better suggestion would be to wait till the end of the show before giving a final verdict.

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