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Donfamous: a pastor prayin for someone to gat mad? That's great. Av u forgotten pray for ur enemies. Besides does ur church encourage dat?

If Elisha could command wild bears to kill innocent children then Pastor adeboye commanding a seductress to go mad for his own protection is still better if he really had the power of God in him..

BTW, yes the bible said you should pray for your enemies but failed to tell Christians the kind of prayer one should pray for the enemy..

Donfamous: are u for real? Dis is not actually enemy per say. Its temptation. 1thessalonian 5:22 flee from all appearances of evil. Y can't Joseph stand with potiphar's wife and start casting out every demon. No amount of prayer can stop d woman, just like Jesus after 40 days and night Satan still came even with all d anoithin etc. Christian race has something to do with brain also not only prayer

Jesus christ came long after joseph era..Joseph never claimed to have the power of jesus or God to perform miracles so the possible thing joseph could do was to flee from the seductress and not report her to the IGP.

Now according to your bible, jesus christ stated clearly that greater works you will do in my name. John 14:12: "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father..

If jesus could simply say to satan " Get behind me satan" during his trial and temptation and immediately satan fleed, what stops pastor Adeboye from commanding the seductress to get out of his presence forever?

John 14: 12-14 12 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. 13"Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14"If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.

Yooguyz: But she was threatening his wife

If he really has the power of God in him, then he she command her to relocate and this verse justifies my statement Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

Yooguyz: The point is the bible uses the word soul and spirit interchangedly. Do remember the Genesis account of Adam? God forbade Adam from eating a fruit in Eden, and that the day he eats of it,he would die. Well it turned out that when he disobeyed, he was simply banished from Jehovahs presence. Remember Adam ws reffered to as a living soul Gen 2:7.

To cut this long story short, a man's soul cannot die right?

Yooguyz: You guy's are very funny if he hadn't reported it to the Police you would have said he consented to commiting adultery. Now he reported some are saying it's a lie or he should have commanded her to God knows where?
Shey It is when you hear that he was caught in a hotel with her that's the one you would say it's true.

It seems you are looking for the slightest opportunity to critcize MOG's. Be very careful because you will account for every careless word that proceeds out of your mouth.

What he should had simply done was to resist her advances..If she threatens his life then he should have made a commandment that she will go mad or be relocated far away from him..Is that not why he has the power of God in him? why running to the IGP for help when he suppose to seek help from God.

ProphetUdeme: but the best way is to surrender it to God in prayer... There hath no temptation taken him as such that is common to man according to james 1 vs 13... He should not have publicise it cos everybody is now clapping hands for him.. What if he had failed and commited adultery would he have published it or kept it secret?

Publicizing the issue or falling into temptation is a different story, the main point is that he didnt seek protection from God but rather went ahead to seek protection from Man i.e IGP

ProphetUdeme: u are right.. Such an oppressive power that lustful temptations control.. The best way is to stay under the protective wings of the Almighty... I experience this and am a living testimony.. Fleeeee from youthful lust...

But he didnt stay under the protective wings of the almighty as expected rather he went to seek protection from the Inspector general of police. So he is indirectly hiding under the wings of the IGP and not God.

Yooguyz: Every man consists of a body, soul and spirit according the bible. Your spirit is imortal,your flesh is mortal. When a man dies, it's just his flesh that's physically dead his spirit is now homeless. When your spirit is dead, it's metaphoric for saying that it has simply dis-connected from it's source that's Jehovah.

^^^So how can you explain how the soul dies as stated in the post below that you initially supported.vvv

Wizemmanuel: Any soul that sinneth shall die.

Raymondenyi: D bibble rightly stated; "flee temptation" temptation has a very great ower , n wheels over christains, d best means; is to flee it, n make it ublic; dat means it shall return no more!!!

The bible also stated that : "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." Matthew 16:19

So what was expected from him was to bind that seducing woman like how they do on tv and declare that she relocates to another vicinity.

PastorKun: The issue of him reporting such a domestic matter like that to the IGP got me laughing, he must have been lying or spicing up the story to make it more interesting to his gullible audience.

Exactly..but what pains me most times is that if a member was in this same situation and the member reports this issue to the pastor, they will advice such member to believe the word of God then pray and fast against the seductress( aka daughter of Jezebel) but when it happens to the pastors they break all what they teach and seek help from other sources outside the bible.

Yesterday's front page topic https://www.nairaland.com/1850029/how-married-woman-almost-seduced and some conversation really got me thinking.

Why will a self proclaimed powerful man of God run to the IGP when a woman tried seducing him?

Why didnt he simply command the woman to get lost into the wilderness since he has the spirit of God in him?

I still wonder why he didnt pray to God to deliver him from this sexually dangerous and violent woman as stated in this verse: Psalms 18:48 He delivereth me from mine enemies: yea, thou liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from the violent man. Man in this verse can be either man or woman.

Why didnt he seek for God's refuge and protection from this woman. As said in this verse: Psalms 9:9 The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.

He simply didnt remember the words of the bible as he ran to report this issue to the IGP.

Is this not a powerful man that he performed several miracles we see on tv? what happened to all this power when sexually confronted? Elisha commanded a bear to kill about 40 innocent children that mocked him (a different topic for another day) so why didnt this pastor just simply command that the woman be relocated to another country or something to get her out of his way. If it was a member that had this issue, the so called pastor will tell them to watch and pray and have faith.

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Thats what we have been saying since 2012.

passwelle: Indeed its been a quiet wknd. As an aside, I can only imagine what type of commentary would make a mod do this: https://www.nairaland.com/1850029/how-married-woman-almost-seduced/1
Wish everyone a green portfolio in the week ahead.

Bros you wont understand what people face in the religious section..any small thing na ban..i even know of a guy that was banned till the year 3989...am currently serving a ban by a crazy mod till next year..check my status or profile..

I am cooking this friday..which me luck.

Yooguyz: He is talking about spiritual death, not physical death.

Can your soul die spiritually?

Weah96: So why are you still alive?

A very good question.

What exactly is wrong with Arsenal fans? Why are
they booing Nasri? Classless
shameless fans.

Report to SEC and take the issue to a lawyer..

joylicious: @o.p nice writeup.it was as if u r talkng to me..may God help us all

Thanks..hope this will make you work on yourself the more..

pinkishgal: Nice one op!

Thank you.

BabaGnoni: ^^^
I understand, as deconstructing ones belief, is one of the most painful things one can endure.

You are still not making any sense neither did you answer the OP..

waldigit: To man any means is no means, but with God all things are possible

So how is it possible that cain knew his wife from thin air? how is it possible that some people emanated from nowhere all of a sudden from the east and wanted to kill cain? something is really missing here and this your excuse or reason isnt justifiable.

BabaGnoni: To start with the Tower of Babel is a euphemism for rebellion
(i.e. open resistance, outright or bold disobedience, action or process of resisting authority, dissent, insubordination etc)

Babel was in Shinar,
Shinar was one of the kingdoms formed by Nimrod
Nimrod was the son of Cush (i.e. Cush was the son of Ham and the grandson of Noah)
Digression: Once you understand what actually went down in the Noah and Ham incident
(i.e. nothing to do with homo contrary to popular belief)
it is no surprise the "Tower of Babel" events in this Noah-Ham-Cush bloodline

⁸Cush was the father of Nimrod, who became a mighty warrior on the earth.
⁹He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; that is why it is said, “Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the Lord.”
¹⁰The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Uruk, Akkad and Kalneh, in Shinar.
- Gen 10:8 - 10

Gen 11:1-9
The Tower of Babel
1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
2And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
3And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
5And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

The tower the people proposed to build is an indirect expression substituted for trouble making, bad behavior etc
The tower's "whose top may reach unto heaven" is a hyperbole not intended to be taken literally
but used to used to evoke strong feelings or create a strong impression of the seriousness of this reasoning, behavior or thought

Notice that the Tower of Babel itself was never built but only the city was
The city came to be called Babel (i.e. was named Babel due to the confusion God set in)
- Tower of Babel was a thought process (i.e. thought(s) building up and towering towards to the heavens)

In order to not labor this post that much, the bottom line is that "it wasn't a good thing" to have a tower of bad ideas, bad thoughts then
and it still isn't a good thing to have bad behavior thoughts now which incidentally is what Word Faith and Mind Sciences teaches

The "Tower of Babel" syndrome is not uncommon today,
and we need to be mindful that lofty ideas, thoughts, imaginations etc in different forms or guises are still peddled as gospel to the unsuspecting hence the thread's due diligence on WoF

⁴(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal,
but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds)
⁵Casting down imaginations,
and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God,
and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
- 2 Corinthians 10:4 - 5 KJ Bible

https://www.nairaland.com/1790500/word-faith-movements-doctrine-proponents/9#25242171

This your write up doesnt still answer the OP..i am really interested in a sensible answer.

amakufrancis: and d Lord said go into d world nd multiply. Any offence?

Is this the proper way to multiply?

Reports say three persons have been isolated at the
Nsawam Government hospital in the Eastern Region
for supposedly showing signs of the Ebola attack.
MultiTV’s Matilda Womegah, who visited the
hospital, said blood samples of the patients have
been taken for medical testing at the Noguchi
Memorial Institute. Among the patients is a 16-
year-old girl who went to the infirmary Thursday
with blood in her urine.
Matilda continued that a 56-year-old man also
came in from a nearby village, Adawso, with blood
in his urine.
The third patient’s case, she said, was a peculiar
one because he had blood in his urine and faeces
and was in a feverish condition.
He is a 53-year-old long distance driver, who plies
the Accra-Kumasi route. Meanwhile, the Ghana
Health Service is awaiting the test of a result of a
Burkinabe, who was admitted at a health facility in
Bawku in the Northern Region.
Reports suggested he showed signs of the Ebola
virus.


http://mobile.ghanaweb.com/wap/article.php?ID=320541

28-year-old Vivian Ndukwu, a choir
member in one of the Christ Embassy
church in Lagos was said to have been
in a secret affair with the pastor simply
identified as Hillary and he eventually
got her pregnant.

The pastor planned with Vivian to lie to
her parents and relocate to a safe place
where she could have the baby. She hid
the pregnancy from her family and told
them she was going to Abuja.
But she and the pastor arranged and she
went to Agbara in Ogun where she
delivered the baby, a girl, with the
connivance of a woman who runs a
orphanage.

But unfortunately, a few days after
giving birth, Vivian developed some
serious complications and before she
could be treated she lost her life…
Vivian stayed at the orphanage until she
was delivered of a baby girl on May 3,
2014. It was learnt that eight days after
the delivery, Vivian was taken to a
hospital after she complained of fever
and headache.

She died in the course of treatment and
her remains had been taken to Badagry
General Hospital morgue.
According to Punch, the orphanage
owner, Mrs. Grace Kato, claimed that
Vivian never stayed at her place.

She said, “Vivian called me three days
after the birth of her baby. She said she
wanted me to help her with the hospital
bills, that she was stranded in the
hospital. Out of compassion, I went to
the hospital to help.”
She claimed she took Vivian home after
delivery to rest at her place for 2 days
before returning to her parents.
She added that Vivian, however, ended
up staying at her place for five days
before she died.

In the word of the Madam Grace Kato:
“I brought her to my house to rest for a
day or two before taking her to her
parents. In the process, I had to travel
for my uncle’s burial. That was why she
stayed that long because she was waiting
for me to return. I came back on
Saturday night, May 10, and the next
day, she complained of a slight headache
and we took her to another hospital
nearby. That was where she died.”
But the hospital where Vivian died
claimed that she was rushed to the
hospital unstable and restless.

A doctor in the hospital said the people
on duty stabilised her condition and
referred her to a general hospital.
The hospital source, who preferred to
remain anonymous, said:
“She was brought in on May 11, at about
1.20pm, unstable and restless. The story
was that her complaint started that
morning. Her blood pressure was also
high. Being that we were not in
possession of her past medical records,
we acted based on clinical situation and
referred her to a general hospital.
“The people that brought her left and so
there was no one to take her to where
she had been referred to hours after
stabilising her condition. Several calls to
the number they gave us were replied
with one story or the other. At some
point, the lady started gasping, and
eventually died. It was not until the
following day that they came to pick up
her remains.”

The father of the deceased, Emmanuel
Ndukwu.
He told Punch on the telephone that the
orphanage founder had agreed with her
late daughter to take custody of the child
after delivery without the consent of the
family. He said he and his wife knew
nothing about the pregnancy, adding
that his daughter left his house and told
the family that she was going to Abuja.

He said, “After telling us that she was
going to Abuja, we did not hear from
her until her death. But we later learnt
that Grace (orphanage owner) and her
husband had organised a naming
ceremony for the new baby without
informing us.”

Mr Ndukwu said he was not aware of
the relationship between his daughter
and Pastor Hillary until her death.
He said, “My family and the pastor’s
family have met and we agreed that
Hillary will perform all the marriage
rites for my late daughter according to
the tradition of our people. We are
doing this because a child is involved.

The pastor did not deny his
responsibility, so the normal thing must
be done.”

The police in Lagos said they are
investigating the sad incident and all the
parties involved.

http://okgist.com.ng/blog/2014/06/photos-christ-embassy-pastor-impregnates-female-choir-member-in-lagos-now-shes-dead/

• Don’t play hard to get
Playing hard to get makes it hard to find Mr. /
Ms. Right. You need not pretend to be busy
when asked out on a date; neither should you
feign nonchalance when you really desire that
person asking you out. There is a chance that
when you change gear, it can be someone who
will make you unhappy.

• Never harbour stereotypes
Not all men fear commitment and not every
woman is needy. A large percentage of singles is
anxious and seek closeness but worries about
love not being reciprocated. Others are avoidant
and shun intimacy. People who push others
away or have a preconceived idea about
intimacy are likely to end up single.

• Don’t hold on to the past
Holding on to an ex or a failed relationship
makes it hard to find a new one. For these
reasons, you become avoidant and
uncomfortable in any relationship – you push
others away and compare every new person you
meet with your ex. Why not let go?

• Be decisive
If you are in a relationship but do not know what
you want out of it, then you may be single for a
long time. Have a mind of your own and take the
responsibility of making your own decisions in
your relationship. Be clear and certain about
what you want and set out to get it.

• Be flexible
Already, you have a picture of who your ideal
mate should be. Be flexible in your choice, and
realistic; you can never get a perfect partner. No
one is. Or do you want a relationship like that of
the movies? Then, it might take a very long time.
Getting stuck on finding all the qualities in your
‘what-I-want’ list is a faster way of remaining
single.

• Change your work schedules
Some singles who are searching for mates would
not think of you as good material, if you work
late nights and on weekends. More importantly,
not having the same schedule could be a huge
strain on a relationship. It may not be easy to
give up your passion or change career for
someone, but nights and weekends are when
most people are free to spend time together. It
could be an expressway to being single.

• Don’t indulge in ‘e-romance’
Online romances may meet some of your
attachment needs, but not in a real way. Meet
new prospects and stick to more realistic ways
of meeting people.

• Be bold and feel secure
Some people avoid committed relationships
because they worry they will become dependent
on their mate, or break up rather too soon. It
may be one fear or another. The trick is to
boldly find someone and work at it.

• Believe in yourself
Some people think they simply are not worthy of
meeting other people until they lose weight,
amass a certain amount of money or achieve
something. The key to overcome this problem is
to believe in oneself and love oneself the way
one is.

• Don’t be a flirt
Serious people who want to be engaged in
serious relationships do not play around; they
get down to the real deal. No one wants to date
someone who is known for hopping into every
available bed.

http://www.punchng.com/spice/intimacy/10-quick-ways-to-get-married/

A former Minister of Finance and Agriculture,
Mallam Adamu Ciroma, said in Kaduna on
Saturday said he lost interest in Nigerian politics
because of the insincerity of the leadership of the
Peoples Democratic Party on rotational
Presidency.
He said rather than abiding by the agreement on
rotational presidency, the party leadership
scuttled it soon as former President Umaru Yar-
Adua died in 2010.
Ciroma, who spoke on the Liberty FM, Kaduna,
insisted that somebody from the North should
have completed Yar’Adua’s tenure and not
President Goodluck Jonathan.
Ciroma said, “I was there when the party was
moving the Presidency between the North and
the south. And this President was there when
General (Olusegun) Obasanjo presided over the
agreement in the PDP, which agreed that the
movement of the Presidency from North to South
should be based on two terms.
“President Obasanjo did his two terms on behalf
of the South, and Yar’Adua was doing his first
term on behalf of the North but unfortunately, he
died. And the PDP leaders, instead of agreeing
on somebody from the North to complete
Yar’Adua’s term, they all went to ensure that the
Vice President became the President; and since
the leaders we made agreement with departed
from this agreement, I lost interest in Nigerian
political affairs.
“Because if you cannot trust people you form a
party with, you win power with, you work hard
with, whether it is Tony Annenih or any other of
the party, I lost interest in the party itself.”
While assessing the party since 2011 to date, the
former minister expressed concern over the
current security challenge in the land.
He said, “The biggest of the worries facing the
country is that of insecurity and the issue of
Boko Haram, people who steal and the issue of
bombing. These are problems and they become
even bigger sources of worry as we look forward
to 2015 general elections.
“No matter what you do, politicians will always
tend to get their affairs in line with the elections
and a lot of people are worried, whether the
2015 elections will take place as we expect.
Everybody is hopeful that the election will be well
conducted and the result should be generally
acceptable.”

http://www.punchng.com/news/a-northerner-shoud-have-completed-yaraduas-term-ciroma/

Monkey hunters full this thread.

Chibuking81: if there is not, I wouldn't have advice, but do your own finding.

OK. but give us ur own findings