₦airaland Forum

FriendNG:
It is obvious I cannot debate with you. I cannot debate with foolish people. I give you links to check when Buhari handed over to Osinbanjo and you still deny vanguard news. Buhari handed over on 8th June to Osinbanjo.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/buhari-writes-senate-osinbajo-acting-president/


The Naira was not allow to float until 15 June 2016 under acting President Yemi

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/breaking-finally-cbn-floats-the-naira/



wait for the screenshot since you're blind.

Is this guy sick or something. Where in the article was it stated that Osibanjo approved that the naira be devalued as all the links you provided show Buhari handing power nothing more. Kindly provide one single link or better still post a screen shot where it is stated that osinbanjo approved for the naira to be devalued. That is what we need. We are waiting.

paramakina202:
I ain't going nowhere.
You are not buhari supporter but Osibaba supporter,whats the difference,they are on joint ticket and both of them are tragic failures.

Stop being silly. I will support osinbanjo any day to any northerner that has the mindset of taking Nigeria backwards as they have always done.

paramakina202:
I am just LOLing out loud.

Who gave op lever to call their lord master buhari incompetent?
Is like say things have fallen apart with sai baba hailing zmbs.
Btw op where is baba?

You must be new to nairaland. I was never a buhari supporter. Now, you can log out and go to bed.

FriendNG:
Nope. You will see Buhari name on the article. Even what PYO is doing now, it will still be referred as Buhari Administration.

All what that happen was based on the wrong advice of Osinbanjo led economic team. They tell him and pressurize him on what is good 4 the economy.


Next Number 3

Who was the one who took a whole 6 months to appoint ministers and form his cabinet? Buhari or Osinbanjo?

Who took a whooping 5-6 months before he signed the Budget of 2016?

Prof Steve Hanke that made this comment below is a renowned professor in financial economics, so your point of argument is totally flawed and baseless.

FriendNG:
Which article? Are you blind? Who is incharge when the Naira is devalued? Buhari as President or Osinbanjo as acting President.

Are you telling the Naira under the acting president devalued itself by itself.

It is obvious you dont know that the Naira has been devalued since last year but sheer ignorance hindered you from this information.

https://www.naij.com/839658-cbn-buhari-officially-devalue-naira-find-proposed-rate-dollar.html

PS note that Buhari never handed power to osinbanjo as acting president last year so come up with another cheap lie

FriendNG:
Buhari was not in Office when it was done. He is on medical vacation. Naira devaluation was done by the Acting President who doubled as the leader of the economic team. When Buhari came back from London and assume office he clearly venture his anger over it.

Economy: Buhari angry with CBN for Naira
devaluation

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/economy-buhari-angry-cbn-naira-devaluation-says-policy-not-helpful/

So where is the lies? Next Number 2



Buhari Hand Over to Osinbanjo on 8 June 2016 and the Naira was devalued by the acting president on 15 June 2016

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/buhari-writes-senate-osinbajo-acting-president/


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/breaking-finally-cbn-floats-the-naira/

Like I said, you keep bringing up lies. Now, you claim that the naira was devalued by Osinbanjo, I challenge you to produce one article that stated the Osibanjo devalued the naira as all the links you provided never stated in any of their write up that osinbanjo devalued the naira.

I am waiting for that article.

FriendNG:
2. Who lead the Nigerian economy into recession ? Osinbanjo

This comment is very laughable as it is very obvious who actually lead this economy into recession and that person is no other than the incompetent one called Buhari.

Now, several articles have been written on how Buhari caused the recession that we are in today and i will highlight some with references;

The analyst noted that Nigeria was always going to suffer from a drop in oil prices, but blamed the Buhari's government for what the expert called its “bungled response”. Bozadzhieva listed three areas where President Buhari caused the recession.
They are:
1. He took almost six months to form a cabinet
2. He approved the 2016 budget very late in May
3. He leaned on Central Bank of Nigeria governor, Godwin Emefiele to peg the naira which made inflation soar to an 11-year high and the naira has since plunged 40 percent against the dollar. Meanwhile, the recession in Nigeria appears to have further stimulated more suicide cases across the nation a recent media report suggested. In the last six months, seven out of the 36 states of the federation sampled, have recorded over 62 cases of suicides according to statistics from the various police commands

https://www.naij.com/972642-3-mistakes-made-president-buhari-plunged-nigeria-recession.html

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/09/buhari-plunged-nigeria-recession/

http://leaders.ng/buhari-driving-nigeria-into-recession-says-imf/

So, i still wonder again where you get the info that Osibanjo was the one who lead Nigeria into recession.

Infact the first picture below shows how the economy was bad during buhari reign as president in 1984-1985...People lost their jobs and the economy was put into recession by the incompetence of Buhari. It happened in 1985 and now history has repeated its bitter lesson.

Buhari is so bad a leader that he has brught upon the worst recession in 25 years.

FriendNG:
1. Who devalued the Naira ? Osinbanjo

Now, to your first point, you claimed that Osibanjo devalued the Naira, whereas it was done by the CBN under the governance and watchful eyes of Buhari

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/economy-buhari-angry-cbn-naira-devaluation-says-policy-not-helpful/

http://www.aitonline.tv/post-cbn_devalues_naira_and_raises_lending_rate

Osinbanjo does not have the constituted power to devalue the naira while Buhari was still around as president.

http://saharareporters.com/2016/05/13/buhari-bows-imf-pressure-devalue-naira-290-dollar

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-14/nigeria-central-bank-to-announce-new-currency-policy-wednesday

So, I still wonder where the lies of Osinbanjo was the one who devalued the naira came from

FriendNG:
It happens am done before the time: Needless for you to quote the reply of I give to another poster on marginalization because it is already number 4 in the original post. You can start pls with number 1 accordingly.

We will start with Marginalization because that is the genesis of the whole saga.

Now, here is Buhari telling the world world that he will treat those who voted for him and gave him 97% far better than those who voted and just gave hime a meagrely 5%. This is the highiest level of marginalization ever.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYUBTU2ZgFY

FriendNG:
First I am not accepting your challenge solely on Marginalization. I raised four point in my post, except if you're ready to go for all the point one after another.

Secondly I am not an APC supporter, I am pro Muhammadu Buhari. Osinbanjo is also an APC member.

Thirdly: I am doing something now, we shall meet by 10:30 PM. That's is only if you accepted to go for all the point I raised accordingly.

Here was your first comment on the thread about marginalization.

FriendNG:
Shut the red sense organ in your mouth. There is nothing, I repeat nothing that a southerner is competent at, without a corresponding northerner that can do the job exactly or even better.

Your only problem with his recent appointment is Yoruba to other southerners ratio and not the North - South balance that you have been wailing on before.

You don't blame Osinbanjo for this but you can blame Buhari for Marginalization despite there was none. Hypocrite.

We shall see @ the polls.

However, we shall talk about the marginalization and the other 4 points you raised. We meet by 10;30pm

Mune:
Noted!

With time, you will fall in love with him too.
I can confidently tell you he is very good choice.

No to northern leaders that will continue to take us backwards.

While we still await the likes of FriendNG mune and other northerners accusing Osinbanjo of marginalization without providing any tangible proof, here is the Video of Buhari stating categorically that those who voted and gave him 97% of electoral votes will be treated differently from those that just gave him 5% votes. If this is not marginalization, pray tell us what this is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYUBTU2ZgFY

This thread is created in response to the fabricated lies being peddled by people like Dr. Ismaila Farouk and also several northerners here on nairaland just to hinder the acting president Osinbanjo from being focus and reviving the economy while the incompetent one is away.

So in reaction to this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3834919/dr-ismaila-farouk-blasts-osinbajo and most importantly this comment by friendng; here is his comment below.

FriendNG:
Yoruba you want Osinbanjo to be President, so be it. Every person will want his tribeman to lead the nation and that's nature because we human are selfish and individualist. I don't blame you for that.


But some of you are hypocrites: Osinbanjo has done nothing good that you're praising him. Please if He has, tell me one?

1. Who devalued the Naira ? Osinbanjo

2. Who lead the Nigerian economy into recession ? Osinbanjo

3. Who support corruption regarding Sunusi's case ? Osinbanjo

4. Whose appointment is 99% his fellow southerners? Osinbanjo

The hypocrites are still praising him for these

You want him to be President? Yes! Fine and good. Give him all your necessary support but we won't accept lies of invisible achievement.

Secondly be ready to fight a no winning war from the north 4 that Presidential seat of power.

Now, I challenge the likes of friendng, mune and all his fellow northern brothers to come here and constructively pin point the marginalization done by Osinbanjo while I counter by providing the extreme marginalization done by buhari.

I await FriendNG to come here and accept so that we can begin.

PS: Take note, I am not yoruba.

FriendNG:
Yoruba you want Osinbanjo to be President, so be it. Every person will want his tribeman to lead the nation and that's nature because we human are selfish and individualist. I don't blame you for that.


But some of you are hypocrites: Osinbanjo has done nothing good that you're praising him. Please if He has, tell me one?

1. Who devalued the Naira ? Osinbanjo

2. Who lead the Nigerian economy into recession ? Osinbanjo

3. Who support corruption regarding Sunusi's case ? Osinbanjo

4. Whose appointment is 99% his fellow southerners? Osinbanjo

The hypocrites are still praising him for these

You want him to be President? Yes! Fine and good. Give him all your necessary support but we won't accept lies of invisible achievement.
.

It is obvious that you are a clown and a confused one for that matter

Secondly be ready to fight a no winning war from the north 4 that Presidential seat of power

The south will collect it and there is nothing you guys can do. Highest, you will empower more bokoharam to kill yourselves.

FriendNG:
Shut the red sense organ in your mouth. There is nothing, I repeat nothing that a southerner is competent at, without a corresponding northerner that can do the job exactly or even better.

Your only problem with his recent appointment is Yoruba to other southerners ratio and not the North - South balance that you have been wailing on before.

You don't blame Osinbanjo for this but you can blame Buhari for Marginalization despite there was none. Hypocrite.

We shall see @ the polls.

List the marginalization done by Osibanjo and i will list the marginalization done by buhari? or better still we can open a new thread about it and lalasticlala will move it to front page for all to see. Do you agree?

seunmsg:
Elombah.com is an ipob blog. This silly write up has ipob fingerprints all over it. Ismaila Farouk is just a creation of the real author of this nonsense. The write up is a failed attempt to create disharmony between Osinbajo and Buhari.

Even if we are to believe the ipob conjectures above, we should praise Osinbajo for being a true nationalist and not castigate him. If he was given only one ministerial slot and he nominated Enelamah, an IBO man to fill the slot, then that is a very commendable decision. How many Hausa or Ibo leader will give away a ministerial slot to a person outside his tribe? All this coordinated attacks on the acting president because of his growing popularity should just stop.

Before you make senseless bigoted comments, always check google to know if similar news had hit the internet. Now this news came out 2 days ago, but your level of bigotry and hatred will always blind you.

https://nigeria.direct.news/news=690760

Mune:
Kwankwaso is our choice! The VP can finish Buhari's tenure, but 2019, is ours.

Kwankwaso is your northern people's choice not our choice. Take note

TonyeBarcanista:
The NOrth, SE and SS will NOT support Osinbajo. That's one truth you must appreciate

How do you know the SS and SE wont support osibanjo? So you expect us to still support a northerner that will finally wreck this country? Sometimes i wonder how you guys just wake up to make frivolous assumptions.

jjjjj2017:
real Yoruba are on naialand and I'm one of them, I'm in full support of self determination & have never attacked ipob. as far as am concerned, Nigeria unity will never benefit he common man

I am telling you. This sham unity is hindering growth and progress

Gegz:
Oga, go to London and collect the resignation letter..

Ode

I pity you, it is youths like you that encourages lawlessness in this country. Well, it is not your fault, since you can't argue constructively and factually without insults in this Ramadan period. Insults is a trade mark with APC and their zombie supporters.

quentin06:
Guys need to come up with an alternative to gari,semo wheat.

Give us examples

Origin:
That's why it is N500 in Ogun ibadan Ondo but N1000 in Lagos.

Have they been attacking Lagos farmers too?


Please tell us precise locations of this attacks and the number of people affected.

Why must you tell lies.

nurshah:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/world/islam-fastest-growing-religion-trnd/index.html

Lol. Did you read the part that says

Muslim women have more children, on average -- 3.1 children compared to 2.3 for all other religious groups combined, Pew says.

This is exactly how you guys are deceived to be the fastest growing religion in the world. So why can't you tell us how many people are converting to Islam in a daily basis?

Now read here to know how thousands of hungry, poor muslims have left their barren countries and converted to Christianity just to enjoy asylum.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3611073/Thousands-Muslim-migrants-convert-Christianity-mass-baptisms-reaching-Europe-just-desperate-asylum.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/muslim-refugees-converting-to-christianity-in-germany-crisis-asylum-seekers-migrants-iran-a7466611.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/03/21/muslim-converts-breathe-new-life-into-europe-s-struggling-christian-churches.html

Christianity is making a comeback in Europe – and it’s mostly thanks to Muslims, say experts in Islam and faith leaders.

A soaring number of Muslims, many of them refugees from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, are converting to Christianity, breathing new life into Europe’s once floundering Christian churches. The Muslims are flocking to various Christian denominations, experts said, including becoming Protestants, evangelical or Catholic

Islam will be a dead religion very soon.

Gegz:
Mr Man, are you even in Africa at all? You just keep sounding like a young infant to African politics. Which African Leader would tender his health report and be subject to impeachment on health grounds?

You know what? I would just leave it to you and fayose to get us his true health status report so that we can now ENFORCE and INSIST on his resignation..... Goodluck on that.

On a second note, you talk of the economy. I didn't anywhere in my post say the economy is in the best of shape. But let us not use health to score cheap political points. because I don't know about you but Mr Fayose is only trying to score cheap points

Thirdly, I just wonder if you are in Nigeria sef. The Fayose of a man claiming he has morals should use his morals and lead his state well. have been to Ekiti and when I see how "morally developed" the state is, I just laugh.

Abeg shift

You see yourself, so Mr Integrity no longer has integrity then. If Buhari wants, he can decide not to tender his health report, his presence is of no relevance either to this country or anywhere else.

Secondly, kindly point out where I talked about the economy? If you can't then I advice that you keep shut from now on cos you know nothing. You just bring up assumptions without facts to back you up.

On your 3rd statement, like I said earlier on, I am no fan of Fayose, but in regards to this, Fayose is right and Buhari should tender his statement of health and also all the accrued expenses due to his overseas treatment. That is the right thing to do. Shikena

Gegz:
Oga, you are just here speaking all theoretically..

Question One. Has any panel certified that he is permanently incapable to rule? if no, you are basically speaking on theory

Question Two. Leave religion or followership aside, you are just sounding pained that despite his health issues, he still remains adamant on ruling. That I can understand. But don't for reasons best known to you or Mr Fayose INSIST that he must resign because NO one or medical panel has rendered him permanently Incapacitated.

Don't confuse yourself on the constitution. Need I remind you this.

"(2) Where the medical panel certifies in the report that in its opinion the President or Vice-President is suffering from such infirmity of body or mind as renders him permanently incapable of discharging the functions of his office, a notice thereof signed by the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall be published in the Official Gazette of the Government of the Federation"
(3) The President or Vice-President shall cease to hold office as from the date of publication of the notice of the medical report pursuant to subsection (2) of this section.

In the absence of any medical report stating Buhari is permanently incapacitated... I suggest you and Mr Fayose stop this thought that keeps brewing in you guys head that Mr President MUST resign....

Honestly, do you read what you write? Our educational sector has really gone to the dogs. No wonder one of Buhari aide shouted to the world that Buhari administration opened 40,000 email addresses as an accomplishment.

Now to the bolded, how can a panel certify if he is incapacitated to rule when Buhari himself is shielding the world from knowing his health status despite several clamour for us to know his true health status.

http://citizensnewsonline.com/2017/04/02/group-buhari-reveal-health-status-medical-bills-drag-court/

http://dailypost.ng/2017/05/13/buhari-cannot-forced-anyone-reveal-health-problem-presidency/

To the second boled, this is laughable and dumb. I am highly employed with good pay, i doubt if many of buhari supporters who have been rendered jobless can boast of the same.

As for fayose, whether you loathe him or not, he is very on point here.

Like i said earlier on, several groups have demanded that Buhari reveals his true health status which the president has failed to do knowing the full implications.

http://citizensnewsonline.com/2017/04/02/group-buhari-reveal-health-status-medical-bills-drag-court/

If buhari can not reveal his health status then he should resign. QED

Gegz:
Bros, you are just speaking on moral authority. No where in the constitution states the president MUST resign. Saying that there's substantial development when one is on seat than the other is still debatable. But that not been the issue on ground. Mr Fayose shouldn't create a situation whereby a section of Nigerians would think there's a constitutionally backing that a sick president MUST resign. If he's giving the president an advice, its a different thing. But the tone of INSISTING is a complete No No for me.

Period

You definately dont know your constitution and just a blind follower. If truely you are fasting and practise the real islam then all these blind follower-ship and lies should stop.

Here is what the constitution says;

Chapter VI, Section 144 (1) The President or Vice-President shall cease to hold office if-

(a) by a resolution passed by two-thirds majority of all the members of the executive council of the Federation it is declared that the President or Vice-President is incapable of discharging the functions of his office; and (b) the declaration is verified, after such medical examination as may be necessary, by a medical panel established under subsection (4) of this section in its report to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives.
(2) Where the medical panel certifies in the report that in its opinion the President or Vice-President is suffering from such infirmity of body or mind as renders him permanently incapable of discharging the functions of his office, a notice thereof signed by the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall be published in the Official Gazette of the Government of the Federation.
(3) The President or Vice-President shall cease to hold office as from the date of publication of the notice of the medical report pursuant to subsection (2) of this section.
(4) The medical panel to which this section relates shall be appointed by the President of the Senate, and shall comprise five medical practitioners in Nigeria:- (a) one of whom shall be the personal physician of the holder of the office concerned; and (b) four other medical practitioners who have, in the opinion of the President of the Senate, attained a high degree of eminence in the field of medicine relative to the nature of the examination to be conducted in accordance with the foregoing provisions.
(5) In this section, the reference to "executive council of the Federation" is a reference to the body of Ministers of the Government of the Federation, howsoever called, established by the President and charged with such responsibilities for the functions of government as the President may direct.

https://www.naij.com/1086672-5-nigerian-constitution-a-sick-president-do.html

This is the main reason why Buhari the so called Mr. Intergrity has refused to tell us his true health status knowing fully well that if his ailment is found to be a terminal one, he must resign according to the constitution.

Gegz:
Note, I am not a supporter of any. But like you just said and I equally quoted earlier, in a saner society and morally speaking. Buhari should resign, no arguments about that. And as regards what the Constitution says, Buhari has done the correct thing by ceding power to his deputy. But Fayose INSISTING that Buhari MUST resign has been my case from the first post I made....

Sanely and morally speaking, Buhari should do the needful and resign. But someone INSISTING that he does is laughable my friend

I beleive the reason why fayose still insist that buhari resigns is due to the fact that it is obvious he cannt continue but as usual, he goes for a while then comes back knowing fully well that if a president goes for a period of time, his vice should become president.

Now, when buhari comes back what exactly does he do within those period? Let me help you, Buhari does nothing!

This simply means when he comes back, the country will be held to ransom again for a particular period withut substancial growth.

It is only in Nigeria that we have a sit at home president or a president that works from home, this is far more laughable and hence buhari should just totally resign and spare us all this bruhaha

Gegz:
“Political expediency won't remedy this kind of problem because if the Executive Council of the Federation had acted in accordance with the constitution, by invoking the necessary sections to declare the President incapacitated, we would not have found ourselves in this present situation," Buhari said.

Buhari's own was on grounds of Yaradua not ceding power to his deputy constitutionally. it had been done controversially..

I am fasting, I am sorry if I insulted you. Forgive pls

Go and read what the constitution says about a sick president here; https://www.naij.com/1086672-5-nigerian-constitution-a-sick-president-do.html

In a saner country, buhari would be forced to resign and allow sinbanjo take over but because of love of power, he wont. Take note, i am not a fayose fan but that will not hinder me from saying the truth. And i believe that since you are fasting, you should be able to tell Buhari the simple truth instead of fighting blindly for him. As for the insult, no wahala

nurshah:
Please can u google the fastest growing religion in the world ? What a blood thirsty world ..Islam ifast taking over u.k sef ...u guys need to edit bible fast to stop this

Lol, how is islam the fastest growing in the world? They leave their cursed islamic region and flock into christian countries, give birth to numerous children then claim fastest growing. Lol

Let your alfa and decietful stories keep on telling you lies of how islam is fast growing meanwhile reverse is the case. Hundreds, if not thousands of muslims are converting to christianity per day just to survive.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/30/muslim-refugees-converting-christianity-find-safety/

Whether we like it or not, the truth remains that the north is a curse to this entity called nigeria.

Christianity is winning. If muslim like seun like, they can put islamic conversion on every thread on nairaland. You cannot stop us. Christianity ti take over.