₦airaland Forum

Benita27:
That's a legacy of ex president Goodluck Jonathan, shame on Ameachi.

Buhari has stolen Jonathan's thunder.

The project was started during OBJ era. Stop lamenting your 2015 loss and move on already. Ok?

ShowYourCertificate:
The very moment Jonathan becomes president, militancy in the Niger Delta will dwindle. Majority of the foot soldiers in the NDA (as well as their sponsors) are sympathetic towards Jonathan just as the foot soldiers and sponsors of Boko Haram are sympathetic to Buhari.

Stop finding something to marry Buhari to BH. BH's was specific in its demand and attempt to establish Islamic caliphate in NE and other Northern states. How does this have anything to do with election and Buhari. Do you realize BH started in 2009 while Yar'Adua was president well before PMB contested against GEJ?

adedayoa2:
but He is correct, Its turning into a political thing cant you see it?

See logic!

adedayoa2:
thats what he meant. Read well

Does that make that nonsense to be correct?

globe16:
Always talking nonsense.. This man is a proof that not all old men have wisdom

Wek now the hatred from you guys for PMB is deep and some of you have openly confessed to it. If I ever find myself in your situation, I will rather end it than living a miserable life. Why not do the needful?

The good thing is I WILL NEVER FIND MYSELF IN YOUR SITUATION.

ShowYourCertificate:
Boko Haram are Buhari's boys. The very moment Buhari won the election, I knew Boko Haram's activities will reduce. I also knew militancy will be on the rise. It's simple logic. Politics in Nigeria has been reduced to tribal war. It's a pity.

I am sure you have no single evidence for your claim. Boko Haram started in 2009 and grew from strength to strength while PDP govt couldn't do anything about it. Yet you want sane people to believe PMB was behind it even when Gen Azazi was murdered by the killer party for revealing what we had suspected that PDP is Boko Haram.

Do you even remember the IB confirmed BH had infiltrated his regime?

And if we must use your warped logic, it's right to say GEJ is behind Niger Delta Avengers and MEND and other militancy problems bedevilling us.

Massive surely has a new definition.

richidinho:
Sharrap dia

Little boy, keep wailing. E just dey start.

richidinho:
Buhariooooooooooooo

Una never see anything. So, na Buhari bomb the pipeline?
Una eyes go soon clear.

BlackSeptember:
The INEC chairman should ask Jega to explain how he successfully conducted the past ele without any hitches.


If this inconclusive nonsense persists to yhe next gener election then it will be yhe biggest threat to our democracy.


Please close this thread and apologise for this Hocus-Pocus you brought here.


Deapreye I'm disappointed in you seeing reason with this. There is nothing like near truth biko

Having tried to educate to the fact that during Jega, results were written in living rooms of politicians, you still want Mahmood to toe the same line!

Una be follow follow. Just because many are condemning "inconclusive elections" without offering alternative solutions, some of you are here talking trash.

What should INEC have done where violence prevented elections from being held? Write result as they used to?

Hermanie:
Buhari

Chai, see hatred!

jaybee3:
I know it isn't currently allowed in the constitution but he (Prof Yakubu) ought to be lobbying the legislooters to change the freaking laws to reflect the country's current economic situation. We simply can't afford more bloodshed and stretched public services because of few cancelled elections at certain wards or LG's.

Nothing wrong with allowing result of an election with participation of at least 70%
So the 70% will be the computed baseline when they aggregate up to council, LGA or State level.

It can even be based on hard numbers (Total votes against expected participation derived from registered voters and PVC collection) rather than % based on ward sizes


Bottom line is, we have to try different things to move this country forward

Many things are wrong with your suggestion but it's not important to discuss those now.

The emboldened, yes we have to try different things to get it right. But before we do that, I insist it's better to have an election declared inconclusive for obvious flaws than write the result in sitting rooms of politicians.

dearpreye:
PDP conducted the elections that eventually got them kicked out of power last year. How did the INEC do it? I think the last current INEC chairman needs some more lessons from his predecessor.

There's no reason whatsoever why the INEC can't conclude LG elections on a time and save us this waste of very limited resources.

The 2015 election could not have been rigged in the states where PDP lost it. And I am sure you know this fact.

I hope you rember the professor from Uniport who said on national TV he had to write his result "under special condition" when he could not read his handwriting. That is how PDP had rigged many past elections.

Trust me, if INEC must conclude all elections the day they're held, that prof's example will continue as we used to have it.

dearpreye:
So how was GEJ's INEC able to handle the last elections and had them concluded within days? I thought we now have saints occupying all the key instruments of states! Or did Jega deliberately frustrated the ambition of GEJ? I'm just getting shocked by the day.

Staggered elections? You've forgotten you're not dealing with a sane country. Such elections will only increase rigging, tension and all manner of evils.

Almost all the elections conducted by PMB's INEC have been declared inconclusive. This is a bad trend. Rather than accept it, even Nigerian should be deeply worried.

As I told you b4, many elections in PDP's sixteen years were doctored. They were not in the true sense of the word concluded. Results of many of them were written in sitting room of politicians.

I don't think staggered elections will perform worse than we have now.

If I may ask, what suggestions would you give to INEC where there are flaws during elections, other than just writing/doctoring result?

tizblink:
What is this?

The topic has already betrayed the OP

We should be discussing on how we gonna stop this trend. Make the process better and here we are.

The only solution as of NOW is declaring doctored results as previously done under PDP.

The other solutions cannot be immediate.

Think!

funlord:



Inconclusive elections as the norm? Never! It should actually be rightly viewed as an anomaly in our nation!


It is actually a blatant form of "political immaturity" and points to an acute failure on the parts of both INEC, our security forces, the voters and our politicians to lend credence to our democracy!


STEP UP!

Given our present situation of not having the resources to successfully conclude elections without flaws; and the previous norm of having results declared where no elections held, declaring election inconclusive and repeating it is better.

BlackSeptember:
How can inefficiency be termed success? The rate at which we are producing educated illiterates in this Mr Daft presidency is alarming

So, declaring doctored election results is success?

You guys think you're capable of proper reasoning but you're not.

jaybee3:
How about disenfranchising voters from troubled spots to serve as a deterrent to would be riggers?
How about they embrace electronic voting?

We can't keep doing the same things and expect different results

To me, disenfranchising all voters from a troubled region because of action of a handful of political thugs will throw up some legal issue. The constitution wont support that.

Embracing electronic voting, as has been proved recently, will always contribute to not concluding an election as scheduled. Many elections will run into the next day.

In my opinion, holding general election region-wise will solve most of our problems if not all.

dearpreye:
OP, you have some valid points for taking your stand.

Hitherto, we've hardly witnessed any major elections being declared as INCONCLUSIIVE ; maybe that was because the ruling party at the time perfected all manner of electoral aberrations and malpractices plus they had all the instruments of state . Many of us, before we kinda started subtly supporting the PDP, were deeply worried about the crimes that were going during elections at the time. But this is why many of us are now getting troubled at the recent run of elections declared inconclusive by the APC. .....

Nigeria isn't a sane society at the moment. ....far from it. As much as we want the elections to be free and fair we should be troubled with trend brother. Let's take Rivers state for instance, we've done rerun and it was declared inconclusive. Now we are going for another round. It's becoming too stressful, full of tension and even boring. We've got other things to do with our times.

Many of us are getting worried for 2019. If the APC can't summarise and conclude elections for a few states or local government, how then will it handle the 2019 elections? Will it be able to manage the huge logistics that it will require in 2019? Won't the INEC need one full year to conduct that general elections? These are very legitimate concerns.

Valid concerns up there.

I won't pretend that INEC has really lived up to expectations. But as I said in response to another post, our security institutions and electorates have bigger role to play in helping INEC conclude any election successfully.

Having said that, Nigeria should start looking at staggered elections instead of having a general election throughout the country in one single day knowing fully well we lack the resources to give us a credible one.

But in the absence of that, I will always welcome an election declared inconclusive for obvious flaws and repeated twice or more; than support releasing mere figures that don't represent the people's wish.

jaybee3:
You are simply saying it's okay to be mediocre albeit with a slight improvement in final process of the electoral end-to-end process

If the challenges are historical then they ought to have mitigated against them simplez

The challenges are very unlikely to go away in the next ten years. It's even wrong the way our elections are scheduled considering the population size and logistics required to meet up with requirement. It's very unlikely that an election (especially the general election) can start and conclude in one day, yet we expect that to be the case without adequate provision.

My position is, given a situation where results are written and compare that to having an election declared inconclusive, I will prefer the later.

jaybee3:
@OP
I don't think you can spin inconclusive elections in any positive light since it seems to be a trend rather than anomalies.

Inconclusive elections simply points to Prof Yakubu below par performance as far as elections are concerned.

The problems you listed are known so why aren't they mitigating against them since it's reoccurring across the country?
It's even more annoying that they are happening when finance is somewhat lean and there is a great need for efficiency whilst being effective in processes and all.

He needs to Up his game!!!

Successfully concluding an election is not solely dependent on INEC.

The security outfits have more and bigger role to play than INEC.

The question is, have we always experienced the flaws I listed above? The answer is "yes". And have results always been declared when they occurred? Again, yes. And lastly, should those elections have been declared "conclusive" with all the flaws? The answer to me should be "No".

bishopkay:
So many mÔrons running loose on NL. Elections been inconclusive is now what you people want Nigerians to accept now ehn? How do you people even think?
So you really feel the area at Imo state rerun that was declared as conclusive didn't have any incidences of violence, or intimidation or electoral malpractices?
If this is what we have become as a people...so blind to the truth because of partisan affiliations, then I sincerely weep for this country!

What's your point?

Please enumerate them without betraying your emotions.

2sexynet:
You are a disgrace if I should speak. I can't imagine how you will turn a blind eye while the country sinks. I await when buhari will be kicked out of office in 2019 and if he dares retaliate, you passingshop or any supporter of this regime should say goodbye to NIGERIA for good!

You're noticed.

Next?

This brief piece is in defense of the new but now very popular cliche “inconclusive election” by INEC.

Prior to nomination and appointment of Prof. Mahmood Yakubu as the INEC Chairman, the phrase “inconclusive election” was not a regularly used narrative in Nigeria’s election terrain. As such, many Nigerians, especially those who support PDP, have not only voiced their opposition to the new trend but have also condemned it entirely, claiming that it’s a strategy used by INEC to favour the APC-led federal government.

Having taken a look at our past elections and different flaws that came with them, and compared to what the current INEC is doing by declaring some elections inconclusive, I have come to agree that the present INEC is doing our democracy a great service by declaring some elections inconclusive.

In all elections declared inconclusive by the present INEC, there were justifiable reasons for such position. These reasons included but not limited to:
1. Ballot box snatching
2. Use of fake ballot papers or massive thumb-printing of ballot papers
3. Violent disruptions by political rivals resulting in destruction of properties and life
4. Killing and maiming of electorates
5. Failure to conclude voting before darkness set in thereby disenfranchising some electorates
6. Compromised electoral officials
7. Other logistics problems

We all know that the above listed reasons are common occurrence in Nigeria’s elections and we have always had to contend with them since 1999. Records exist where many polling units could not participate in an election but election results were declared nonetheless; despite that many electorates were disenfranchised! There are records of how election results were written in the sitting room of some politicians, yet such results were announced as a reflection of the electorates’ wish! Surely, these two scenarios should have caused the elections to be cancelled or declared inconclusive.

What used to happen was that where some of the above were witnessed, the party with the upper hand, in connivance with INEC, had always been declared winner through doctored result! Is this what we prefer to having an election declared inconclusive with a view to remedying whatever anomaly was recorded?

The result of Imo North senatorial election re-run of yesterday shows that APC had 48,000+ votes to PDP’s 40,000+ votes and about 15,000 registered voters yet to cast their ballot. In the old order, either of the two leading parties, in connivance with INEC, will have just shared the remaining uncast ballots as they deem fit, and a result is declared in favor of the party with highest connection. But because the current INEC (and by extension the FG) is determined to make people’s choice count, the election was declared inconclusive because of shooting between supporters of PDP and APC. To me, that was the only sensible thing to do by INEC. The rescheduled election will afford the two parties checkmate any nefarious activities that may be in the plan of the other party. That way, rigging is significantly reduced if not eliminated.

The concept of declaring election “inconclusive” is also capable of frustrating election riggers, trouble makers, and of course their sponsors as they will sooner or later realize that creating chaos in the hope of benefiting from such act will no longer be guaranteed.

So folks, let us embrace the new notion of “inconclusive election” for the purpose of deepening the quality of our election and democracy.

Lalasticlala Seun Mynd44, do you guys think it's worth fp?

If this man was half clever, he would have realized that ranting online and on TV would not deter the govt from pursuing his corruption case.

This is sad.

It is very belittling and undignifying especially coming from a leader who should provide opportunities for poverty eradication to his people.

What an absurdity!

emmasege:
Is this not why Buhari has continued to silence key opposition figures with trump up charges? He knows APC days will be short-lived if PDP remains a vibrant opposition party. His ineptitude, sectionalism and dictatorial/ vindictive lifestyle will make the PDP comeback much easier. It's left for the PDP to cash in on the opportunity.

Thanks jare. Just give us just one of such trump up charges biko.

This man is a clown indeed!

Must all members of Obama family vote for Hilary?

dullardeen:
PDP left with organised, conclusive and fair elections.... All that is left is Dullard-grade elections!

Integrityfarms:
Because APC failed to win in okigwe that's why it's been declared inconclusive for the third time of voting o!

#owelleandpmbmakeunakwantinue

Vanguard gathered that the Oru East state assembly re-run election had to be declared inconclusive because of the shoot out at Okata and Amiri communities in Oru East, between supporters of the rival parties midway into the election.

If the above is not a genuine reason to declare election inconclusive, tell me what is?

IVORY2009:
I have never said you're a "paid agent" you are puting words into my mouth, all I said is dat u being paid by the govt of the day......

I won't even try to deny your claim. However, you owe sensible members on this forum a duty of proving your claim with facts.

How am I being paid?

TonyeBarcanista:
PDP no win?

They win in Kogi nah!

onatisi:
Ribadu to counter atiku!!!
You guys are really funny.

You know no politics.

If Ribadu was not in PDP, he would have won Adamawa.

PMB's popularity helped Bindow as many like him to win in 2015.

Atiku could not even win his state in 2011 presidential election.