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no insult intended, why is it that in mosque when imam is preaching, instead for them to preach on how to leave as a muslim ,or how to leave a life that pleases God(Allah) , they end up preaching the bible, picking a verse out in the bible, misinterprete it, condemning the bible, preaching Jesus, saying is not the son of God, Jesus did not die ..., with all seriousness, and the followers/listener will be happy, shouting, without the fear of anything, but if a pastor said anything about muhammad in the church before the end of that service the pastor,the members, will live to tell the story, if only they are alive ,

Centrifude: And what lesson is that? Please get your facts straight before writing nonsense.
S.A soldiers did very well in C.A.R they held their own against more than 2000 rebel with just 200 soldiers, they fought so hard that Seleka called us and asked for a seize fire, we inflicted heavy losses on Seleka rebels.
The Soldiers mandate was to protect the training stuff that was busy training C.A.R Government Troops, while providing protection for the president and that's exactly what they did.

None of the training stuff were hurt and the President escaped without a scratch.

Mission objective complete with 25% Casualties.

what is the name of this game,?

Is south africa the giant of Africa,? Why didn't him seek help from Nigeria


























, .................. .................. Quote me at ur risk

padeolu: Please what did you do to make it stop? Am scared if it comes again, I may not be powerful enough to weather the storm, its such a terrifying experience. Although I prayed about it, read some psalms into water and bath with it. I guess its a stray demon that entered through the window or door.

ah! bath with psalm how? Bros that is no christianity, do nt be deceive

padeolu: thanks babe, am a child of God as far as I know and a born again aswell, not going to church doesn't make me less of a Christian (I think). Just didn't wanna bother you thanks bae

child of God? Sorry children of God do the whill of God, and the commandment of God, dont be decieve so many new generational churches has deceive many people about grace making christian not to know what it means to be a contending christian

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padeolu: no, this is not my second chance, more like 20th if not more. I pray the grace continues. And as for moving closer to him, am in his arms, he protects me, he guide my steps. I'm a born again, though I don't go to church, instead, I do good to others, I stay away from things I perceive to be sin.
Again, I pray the grace continues

Shalom

oh! Grace right!? If you like dont fight your way through, beacuse you will soon run short of grace.

Not all human have this chance u just got, that why you hear someone sleep and never wake up.

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And biochemist made it much more harder, with their pathways,

damilarelr: Of course He was talking about the Grace dispensation. Okay, you will agree with me that after the law and the prophets, it was followed by the grace dispensation. Now, read up Luke's record of what Jesus was saying in Luke 16:16 for a clearer understanding.

Luke.16.16"The law and the prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and every one enters it violently.

Bros the verse is still saying thesame thing,during the law (moses time) and the prophets, nothing about the heaven was preached, but during john the baptist and even now,the Kingdoms is preach and people are rushing in violently,earnestly.

Is just that Jesus brought grace in the struggling and this make it now easy for us, is by the grace of God we are saved,

Philipians 2.12 International Standard Version
And so, my dear friends, just as you have always obeyed, not only when I was with you but even more now that I am absent, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

How can you work out your salvation without contending violently against sin? One need to be violent with his self before he can work out his salvation,
The grace factor now come into play, by making it easy for us to contend.
Some time i will be contending violently with my self not to sin, but when the grace factor is there, I will just here it in my spirit, my Grace is sufficient for you to overcome this sin, and immediately I will overcome it,

Now those that don't contend violently with their self before grace speak, are those that fall into sin easily before realising, because they believe grace will speak for them when they ask for forgiveness, that why paul said In this romans

King James Bible
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Holman Christian Standard Bible
What should we say then? Should we continue in sin so that grace may multiply?

So bro, Grace is a factor in our struggling. Just like some one will say I need the grace of God in my exam, and yet the person fail to read,
So bro in as much as we struggle violently to enter the Kingdom we need the grace of God to stand firm.
Unlike those in the days of john, they were unable to stand firmly because grace was not there,
There were just violently forcing there way in

Luke 16.16
Amplified version
Until John came, there were the Law and the Prophets; since then the good news (the Gospel) of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone strives violently to go in [would force his own way rather than God's way into it]
So bro that the grace factor jesus brought into place.

Paul really contend for the faith violently preaching without fear, because of the grace factor that always speak for him when ever he is in danger,

damilarelr: Brother, Jesus didn't speak about prayer in any of the verses nao. He was relating what happened under law, with the transition into the Grace dispensation in which we are today. Don't mix it up. James 5:16 could refer to a kind of prayer that avails much but this has nothing to do with how the violent were taking their right from the kingdom of heaven by force (people taking up their possessions from the kingdom of heaven as while they were law as if they are under Grace).

neither was He talking about grace there, bro,

Take a look at this translations

New International Version
From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it.

New Living Translation
And from the time John the Baptist began preaching until now, the Kingdom of Heaven has been forcefully advancing, and violent people are attacking it.


New American Standard Bible
"From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force.


Holman Christian Standard Bible
From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been suffering violence, and the violent have been seizing it by force.

International Standard Version
"From the days of John the Baptist until the present, the kingdom from heaven has been forcefully advancing, and violent people have been attacking it,

NET Bible
From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and forceful people lay hold of it.


GOD'S WORD® Translation
From the time of John the Baptizer until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful people have been seizing it.

Jubilee Bible 2000
From the days of John the Baptist until now, life is given unto the kingdom of the heavens, and the valiant take hold of it.




Douay-Rheims Bible
And from the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent bear it away.


English Revised Version
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and men of violence take it by force.



and looking at this verse critically is talking about the kingdom of God, yes is by grace we will make it to heaven, but before that grace will speak brother there must be contention on our side to fight against every sin, violently without piety of any thing or any one.

damilarelr: But Jesus was not even referring to prayer when He spoke those words...it is the African hardship, the rigour of growing up and how we have been taught in our various churches that has made us to believe until we pray violently, shake head like handfan, pray loudly and disturb our neighbours, that is only when we can pray violently and God will answer.

Bros, there are some wrong doctrines we need to seriously "unbelieve" so we can believe the truth which the Gospel of Jesus is all about. God is not out there to punish any sinner, neither is He awaiting Christians to falter so He can deal with them, scarcely will anyone want to die for a good man, but Christ died for us while we were not yet born (even though we will be born sinners)..what manner of love is that? My point is that law came thru Moses, but Grace and truth came thru Jesus Christ, beit under or under grace and truth, the choice is ours to make, but don't be unwise by mixing the two!

hello! hope you know what transpired before jesus said that, in verse 7 to 9, that is the characteristic a christian has to exhibit, those that will be aggressive in exploiting this world for the advancement of the kingdom, violently without the fear of any one just as john the baptists did , violent in all ramification, james 5 .16 , the effectual and fervent prayer of the righteous availed much,

since there was election no problem, or is it because the election was rigged. They were caught unaware, no time to plan the rigging,

I hate seeing blog on link, or am i the only?

interesting naija must find a way, anyway just like anyhow we must loot the 1.9b,

malvisguy212: see brother, am very very happy for this your coment,most christian don't understand salvation,if you go to some churches after the message the pastor will ask who want to give his life to christ?all most half of the congregation will come out,this happen every sunday and each sunday many people come out for repentance, I will ask my self, "wherever they repent , is like they go back to sin "they just like to be seen by men,there heart is far away.I just thank God for the parents I have, they both gives there life to christ 1994, uptill today there faith in christ is as solid as the rock.
Thank you my brother, you are bless.

amen.
I pray God help us all to know what it takes to be a christian,
Bless you sir.

malvisguy212: thank you Bros,this thing saddle me.

that is why our new generational pastors are just motivational speaker, the present church is lacking those that will preach the real word of God, that is why most christian are relaxed, nothing to drive them to know God the more, no burning desire for God,

malvisguy212: when you pursue a sheep and he reach to the extent that the sheep has no where to run to, if the sheep is brave HE WILL TAKE THE VIOLENCE BY FORCE,he will take the challenge ,that what the verse mean.is like satan taking advantage of the law to make man fall,the weak ones will fall BUT THE BRAVE ONES WILL TAKE THE VIOLENCE BACK TO SATAN THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.the children of God are the kingdom of heaven.

please tell them my brother, is because of this grace thing many christian are suffering, they just cant pray their way out violently from situation they find themselves.

krayzieklay: My brother, are you minding them?.... The funny thing about these Christians is dat 10 people can av 10 different interpretations just on one verse alone. Im so sure another Christian bro will come here and disagree with the Op. No wonder we have different churches with different doctrines and mode of worship. I have never seen a religion(abi way of life) as confused as Christianity.




No offence.. Just my observation.

oh you are happy violent is the bible, lol christianity violent is not to carry bomb and gun, our violent is in the aspects of prayers,and things that concern Gods work, and not to be doing what your brothers is doing.

Apatheist: Funny. If this verse was in the Qur'an, Bible thumpers would scream "Islam is a terrorist religion" till they wake god from the grave.

Op, I stop coming to religion section because of wrong interpretation of the bible from people like you, what connection do violent taketh it by force and operating in grace have, oh! We are in the era of grace, so no need of violent contending? When paul said contend for thy faith, what did he mean by contend?
when Jesus was casting out demon from the posses he was meditating right? i didn't read your post any further when i saw you relating violent with grace.

From the verse . ; And from the DAYS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST UNTIL NOW.

It Means even now you still use violent,.

Jesus use violent to chase those selling in the temple, how wish Jesus use calmness and warm tone, who will leave the temple, Jesus use violent to take back the temple from the money lenders, esther use violent to meet the king, she said if I die I die, that is a violent spirit,

Matthew 11:12 Amplified Bible (AMP)
12 And from the days of John the Baptist until the present time, the kingdom of heaven has endured violent assault, and violent men seize it by force [as a precious prize—a [ a ] share in the heavenly kingdom is sought with most ardent zeal and intense exertion].
Grace operate in a dimension when our physical strength can't help us, in as much am still growing in the faith, but on this. nah nah
This is how so many christian has been deceive thinking christianity is a bed of rose when adversity comes they start blaming God, waiting for grace to perform magic, the grace God gave us was to enable us not to faint in the days of our struggling and contending,

biblical prophecy coming to pass, the end is closer than we think.

Op, if you continue lying like this your end is near, so many people that have lied on TB.joshua always dont have a happy ending.

They should borrow from fifa,

It can affect one and his generation, but if that person take charge in the aspect of prayers, no curse or swear, can stand in his destiny, jabez in the bible was curse unknowingly by his mother but when he cried out to God his destiny was change,

oh! Pls no, have been praying for this children to go back to school, their noise is unbearable, anyway, good idea, because the rate will surely increase in Borden school. Meanwhile this is for +18 TC. Viewer discretion.

pigin: The song too long.. to be national anthem, the tin sound like church song.

how church song they sound, you never hear mosque song?

Mod front page pls, this can encourage those that have lost hope in our dear nation.

Hohaiiiode: Lol!

the guy think say naija na where them day form, ( no be only patriotism ) , i pray he win the game, because if he loss, market don spoil be that.

The agent to Super Eagles Coach Stephen Keshi, Emmanuel Ado has exclusively told SL10 that the big boss will take charge of the Super Eagles for the AFCON 2015 qualifiers against Congo/Rwanda and South Africa.


He said while nothing concrete in the form of a deal has been agreed, Keshi agreed to handle Nigeria for the two games as a means of sacrifice to prove his patriotism to Nigerians after talks with the Country's sport minister Tammy Danagogo.
“I can confirm to you that after talks with the minister, Keshi will handle the Eagles in the games against Congo and South Africa, after that talks can resume,” he told SL10.

“Keshi accepted to work with the agreement, knowing fully well that no one is really in charge of the NFF at the moment and the minister who has always been a fatherly figure held talks and he accepted.

“I want Nigerians to know that patriotism is key among what persuaded Keshi to accept to coach Nigeria in both games, it's a sacrifice we all as Nigerians should learn to make, once a while.

“However, nothing is agreed in terms of a new deal or contract and we won't let that distract us from the bigger picture, after the games talks will resume.”

Ado said Keshi is expected in the country within the week to commence preparations for the qualifiers scheduled for September 6 in Calabar.
Four days after the Calabar game, Nigeria will travel to South Africa to continue their defence of the AFCON 2013 crown with a game against the Bafana Bafana of South Africa.

http://www.sl10.ng/news/articles/leagues/unknown-competition-ref-number-174-1/sl10-can-confirm-that-stephen-keshi-will-take-charge-of-super-eagles/174683