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vanmusco:
Ogun State

vanmusco:
Are you into gas business fulltime? Can we partner? Can we start buying together in large quantity?

Next2Bezee:
Who vote pass? North
Who win? North
Who celebrate pass? North
Who don suffer pass? North
Who hunger wan kill now? North
Who Boko Haram don kill pass? North
Who dey shine our shoe? North
Who dey guard our gates? North
Who dey fetch our water? North
Who dey beg for road pass? North

Welcome to the Next Level.

Cuteamigo1:
it will arrive God willing.

Cuteamigo1:
me too.

Cuteamigo1:
me too.

Cuteamigo1:
I have. Where is your location in Kaduna?

alexyontop:
dryakson, BabyApple

worlexy:
And on the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, does being the fastest growing religion mean that Islam is the true way? Don't you know that the world tend to embrace lies more than the truth?

Matthew 7:13


"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."

So don't gloat too much.

worlexy:
You may also read this book to know more about The Quran, The Bible and Salvation

"Anatomy of the Qur'an" by G.J.O. Moshay

worlexy:
Remain blessed too brother. cheers. Just try and read to find out the truth, read the Quran with the intent to learn, not what your imam tells you, and you will find the truth there. After all Quran had already told you to use your own reason not the reason your Imams give you. Remain blessed

worlexy:
But you said the original Bible is lost, so from where did you get all these quotations you cited? You're funny. You think you can obey part of the Bible and discard others ? It's all-or-none! It's either you believe everything in the Bible from which you got all your quotations or you don't believe anything at all.

I have nothing much to tell you. Your Quran 10:94 has already told you that if you're in doubt about what is revealed to you, you should ask the Bible, what that means is that anything in the Quran that you can't find in the Bible is null and void.

Go and understand your Quran first, before you come and embarrass yourself here, because I will expose all your lies

worlexy:
Look at yourself again. I will never understand what, why can't you people use your reason like the Quran instructed you.

You believed that Quran has been in heaven since the beginning of the world, and in the same Quran I highlighted many places where the "word" Christians appear. Which implies that Allah had known Christians since the beginning of the world, and you're saying I won't understand. Make me understand na. May be you want to claim that you have more knowledge that Allah and the Quran.



كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

Use your reason. Don't be like a zombie. Quran has warned you further



إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)


Don't be the worst of living creatures.
Use your sense of reasoning.

You then say I should show in the Bible where Jesus
said He is the son of God.

I won't bother to show in the Bible since you believe that the original Bible is no longer available. I will rather show u in the Quran that you hold so dear as the incorruptible words of God.



Quran 2:28, 73 clearly states that Allah is the ONLY one that gives life and causes death and even brings the dead to life.

Quran 3:49 clearly states that Jesus gave life to a clay bird and the clay bird became a living bird

Quran 5:110 states that Jesus Raised the Dead, Gave life to clay bird, healed the blind, healed the lepers. It also stated that Jesus was given clear proof and Holy Spirit

Note that none of this wonders and Miracle was performed by Mohammed o(yet Muslims call him the greatest prophet and they claim that Jesus is not the son of God ) . These are miracles exclusive to God and Jesus.

Quran 3:45 clearly started that Jesus is the Word of God(Just like in John 1:1-5)

Quran 6:73 says Allah's word(not words, which implies Jesus as stated in Q3:45) is the Truth. Compare that one with John 14:6 where Jesus said he's the way the truth and the life

If you're getting confused or doubting these words in the Quran, Allah has instructed you in Quran 10:94 that if Mohammed and Muslims are in doubt of what is revealed to you in the Quran that you should ask the Christians who have been reading the Scriptures before you.

The same Quran clearly states that it was revealed to confirm what is in the scriptures and not to abolish the Bible (Quran 2:41, 89, 91, 97 etc). So the Bible remains the reference and standard for the Quran and the Muslims.

Now to salvation, Quran 46:9 states that Mohammed is NOT something original among the messengers, neither did he know what will be done to him, as he only followed what is revealed to him.

And Mohammed didn't even know the person that revealed the Quran to him, the so called Angel Gabriel never introduced himself to Mohammed as an angel from God, it was Mohammed's wife that 'thought ' the spirit appearing to Mohammed was Angel Gabriel.

Allah never spoke to Mohammed like he spoke to Abraham, Moses and Jesus in the Quran, and even when the angel of God went to talk to Mary in the Quran, the angel introduced himself as being from God.

From these, the identity of the spirit that recited Quran to Mohammed is unknown, hence our doubt, and the good thing is that the spirit said we can confirm the authenticity of the Quran by checking the Bible, so anything in the Quran that's not in the Bible remains null and void(Quran 10:94)


On the contrary, Jesus told his followers that he knew where he was going and that he was going to prepare a place for us because in His father's house, there are mansions there (John 14:2-3) and the Quran stated that Jesus cannot lie because he was given clear proof and Pure Spirit (Quran 5:110).

Quran 3:45 states that Jesus is the Messiah, distinguished in this world and hereafter

So you still want God to spell it out to you that Jesus is His Son? When he has clearly stated that Jesus did what only He(God) can do.



كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

Allah is telling all Muslims here that the verses in the Quran are clear enough and that you should use your reason. Please do.

Also,


Allah says

إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)

worlexy:
Look at yourself again. I will never understand what, why can't you people use your reason like the Quran instructed you.

You believed that Quran has been in heaven since the beginning of the world, and in the same Quran I highlighted many places where the "word" Christians appear. Which implies that Allah had known Christians since the beginning of the world, and you're saying I won't understand. Make me understand na. May be you want to claim that you have more knowledge that Allah and the Quran.



كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

Use your reason. Don't be like a zombie. Quran has warned you further



إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)


Don't be the worst of living creatures.
Use your sense of reasoning.

You then say I should show in the Bible where Jesus
said He is the son of God.

I won't bother to show in the Bible since you believe that the original Bible is no longer available. I will rather show u in the Quran that you hold so dear as the incorruptible words of God.



Quran 2:28, 73 clearly states that Allah is the ONLY one that gives life and causes death and even brings the dead to life.

Quran 3:49 clearly states that Jesus gave life to a clay bird and the clay bird became a living bird

Quran 5:110 states that Jesus Raised the Dead, Gave life to clay bird, healed the blind, healed the lepers. It also stated that Jesus was given clear proof and Holy Spirit

Note that none of this wonders and Miracle was performed by Mohammed o(yet Muslims call him the greatest prophet and they claim that Jesus is not the son of God ) . These are miracles exclusive to God and Jesus.

Quran 3:45 clearly started that Jesus is the Word of God(Just like in John 1:1-5)

Quran 6:73 says Allah's word(not words, which implies Jesus as stated in Q3:45) is the Truth. Compare that one with John 14:6 where Jesus said he's the way the truth and the life

If you're getting confused or doubting these words in the Quran, Allah has instructed you in Quran 10:94 that if Mohammed and Muslims are in doubt of what is revealed to you in the Quran that you should ask the Christians who have been reading the Scriptures before you.

The same Quran clearly states that it was revealed to confirm what is in the scriptures and not to abolish the Bible (Quran 2:41, 89, 91, 97 etc). So the Bible remains the reference and standard for the Quran and the Muslims.

Now to salvation, Quran 46:9 states that Mohammed is NOT something original among the messengers, neither did he know what will be done to him, as he only followed what is revealed to him.

And Mohammed didn't even know the person that revealed the Quran to him, the so called Angel Gabriel never introduced himself to Mohammed as an angel from God, it was Mohammed's wife that 'thought ' the spirit appearing to Mohammed was Angel Gabriel.

Allah never spoke to Mohammed like he spoke to Abraham, Moses and Jesus in the Quran, and even when the angel of God went to talk to Mary in the Quran, the angel introduced himself as being from God.

From these, the identity of the spirit that recited Quran to Mohammed is unknown, hence our doubt, and the good thing is that the spirit said we can confirm the authenticity of the Quran by checking the Bible, so anything in the Quran that's not in the Bible remains null and void(Quran 10:94)


On the contrary, Jesus told his followers that he knew where he was going and that he was going to prepare a place for us because in His father's house, there are mansions there (John 14:2-3) and the Quran stated that Jesus cannot lie because he was given clear proof and Pure Spirit (Quran 5:110).

Quran 3:45 states that Jesus is the Messiah, distinguished in this world and hereafter

So you still want God to spell it out to you that Jesus is His Son? When he has clearly stated that Jesus did what only He(God) can do.



كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

Allah is telling all Muslims here that the verses in the Quran are clear enough and that you should use your reason. Please do.

Also,


Allah says

إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)

worlexy:
You have just exposed yourself and the fact that we can't take the Quran serious, you Muslims claim that the Quran has been in existence since the beginning of the world, but there are many verses in the Quran where Christians are mentioned, which implies that Christians have been in known by Allah and have been mentioned in the Quran since the beginning of the world, and now you're saying Christians are not mentioned in the Bible. I've exposed your lies.

Allah SWT says:

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا وَالَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالنَّصٰرٰى وَالصّٰبِئِينَ مَنْ ءَامَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صٰلِحًا فَلَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ عِنْدَ رَبِّهِمْ وَلَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ
"Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 62)

Other places in the Quran where the Christians are mentioned Q2:62, 111,113, 120, 135, 140

Q3:67
Q5:14, 18, 51, 69, 82
Q9:30
Q22:17


So by trying to rubbish Christians, you're only rubbishing The Quran that you hold as the ultimate word of Allah

BOJO123:
yes bro..I'm coming from lagos but don't know the place

BOJO123:
pls who knows where skolark resources ltd is in kaduna..I'm coming from Mando park