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Alxmyr: I believe you understand that the section pertains to OVERSIGHT FUNCTION OF THE HOUSE. In this case, Is the house oversighting bribery? The house do not appropriate funds to individual, so in what capacity do they seek to exercise authority of oversight over a private individual who neither hold a public office nor serve in any official capacity for the nation?

Alxmyr...seriously..U are highly biased on dis issue, I said it from d onset from d way U wrote the synopsis of the thread..its cool if U are an ardent admirer of Femi Otedola, but U're making it too obvious bro..nevertheless, I'l xplain thus;
Oversight in dis context means; watchful and responsible care (b)regulatory supervision. Oversight=Oversee.. The House makes and oversees the laws of d land...the uniformed men enforcess the laws...the Judiciary interpretes d laws.
In a nut shell, the House oversees everything in d country. EVERYTHING.
The house can summon even d president...
Moreover, the subsidy issue is a national matter and any one found wanting is guilty of defrauding "us" as a nation.
Wat is big in dis issue sef? The house sets up a committe to probe a matter. One of the "probees" says d committes d house set up requested bribe from him, which he "gave" after reporting to sss and collaborated with sss to do so.
Farouk, leader of the committee say; no, he offered bribe, I refused, he pressurised me, I reported to police, collected it (to tender as evidence)
Now the house says, Otedola, com and say ur side of the story and U are saying don't go...For what? Why?
Love them, hate them...the house represents U & I..if U hate dem, recall d ones U have power to recall...not sentimentally go against rule of law.. Abeg.. I don tire...haba..!!?

Tonitelli: Bros..looks like u are the one with intention to mislead people here....U have drawn our attention to 'any person', but left out the oda part..pls tell us if otedola or his company fall into the category of 'charged with authority for executing laws and.....disbursing and administering money bla bla bla'....or is it cos he gave money to Farouk that has made him or his company a govt agency??

Bro, I know we are not all lawyers (neither am I) but as an ardent follower of rule of law, breaking down dat constitutional clause is simple. The law says, ( any person, authority, ministry or government department ). Any person refers to any gadem human being, no matter who U are, as long as ur feet are on Nigerian soil). That word covers everybody, d odas only helped break it down so some people will not claim to be "one thing one thing" and not wanna appear.
Constitutionally, the house of reps/senate represent the people...
U guys are sentimental about this issue. I av no attachment to d House. We all know they are rpolitician and politicians are rougues, but rule of law is rule of law. So far, only 2 names av been mentioned. Farouk and d oda guy from the comitte. No oda name has been mentioned, everything said is "the committe"
Otedola's appearance is not prosecution, its a fact finding procedure for an issue that has becom national.
So Pls, thread softly....thanks

The same section 88-89 also says in sub-section d. That the Senate or House of representatives has power to;

(d) issue a warrant to compel the attendance of any person who, after having been summoned to attend, fails, refuses or neglects to do so and does not excuse such failure, refusal or neglect to the satisfaction of the House or the committee in question.

So, what exactly are we arguing about here...get fact befor goin public Pls and stop misleading people...
Otedola, morally and constitutionally is bound to appear b4 d Reps....case closed..

Let's not just come here and talk for talking sake...here is what the constitution says; (take note of the 1st group; ANY PERSON)

In the exercise of its oversight functions the House of Representatives or the Senate is empowered by sections 88 and 89 of the Constitution to summon; any person, authority, ministry or government department charged with the authority for executing laws and …disbursing or administering money appropriated or to be appropriated by the National Assembly”.
Even the president can be summoned, so who d heck is Otedola.?

Abeg...make una no spoil dis country o.

edicolove: Ok, fair enough. I apologise. But I do expect educated people posting on a public forum to get some basic facts right. The house of reps cannot prosecute anyone. They are abrogating to themselves the powers of other arms of government. Secondly, they are a party in this saga, so they cannot be the judge and the accused at the same time. Those trying to use the subsidy report conspiracy theory to exonorate Farouk are going to fall flat on their faces. If Farouk is indicted, the report is also indicted. You can't separate them. Do you know why a judge will not accept an evidence from the torture of a suspect? Because the use of torture is illegal. So automatically, any evidence from torture is null and void. That's how the law works. If the house is serious, they will conduct a new probe. A clean one. You can't just call a session, say ayes and nays and add Otedola's company which you once removed with ayes and nays. It is too childish!

But mind U, appearing b4 d House is not prosecution..its also fact finding. The house represents d people, d tax payers money de are tossing around. Weda good or bad, d house represents d people..let him go dere with his lawyers, let d press be present, sss, police representatives etc. CBN gov, NSA, etc av been there...so wats d big deal?

edicolove: Sometimes I wonder if some of you lads ever went to school. The house of reps has no such constitutional powers. Its only the police that he has to answer to. The house of reps can only do fact finding. They cannot usurp the powers of the police force. They are not a law court. They cannot prosecute Otedola. They are making a f00l of themselves. That is why the attorney general called the subsidy probe a fact finding exercise because that is exactly what it is. It has no legal binding on anyone. Security forces can only use it as a pool of information to build a case. It is not in itself an evidence of anything.

Mr Man, dis has not called for insults, talk with simplicity and gentlemaness. I don't wanna drag issues with som1 like U. Na U go school pass?

tribalism: yes, he may be but not in this lawan issue.

How? Both parties have cases.. Do U guys know d beauty of law? D jagbajantis of court case? With brillant lawyers.
Who made d 1st call?
Records of calls and texts?
Where is d money sef?
Police sef av case to answer..
Did Farouk report?
When?
What did police do?
Ok, but..Otedola reported, and sss provided the money..
Why didn't police play along with Farouk to go and collect d money and use it as evidence..
Naija guys, we don pass secondary sch where who ever reports 1st is innocent
Both are guilty. 4 now.

Alxmyr: Whatever you have against Otedola should be proven in the court of competent jurisdiction.
The Reps err in inviting Otedola and thereby making a criminal case 'mere executive vs legislature'.
I Otedola refused to appear, do they have power to compel him to do so?
I doubt the exercise of such power.

And wateva U av against the Reps should be proved in a court of jurisdiction. Otedola is not a saint, stop painting him thus. Neither is d House of Reps. If he doesn't appear, then he is a coward. Simple...

Alxmyr: It is obvious that that is their intention.
In the first instance, the House reduced the bribery allegation to executive vs legislature. Secondly, the house can not be a judge in its own case. Why do they call in journalist at the beginning of their so called investigation only to excuse everybody and go into a closed door. Third, police in their investigation said majority of the people investigating the same scandal has a case to answer.
What will they ask Otedola? What effect would the outcome of their investigation be? Can they be the judge or do they have the constitutional power to institute investigation into criminal cases involving individual? What is the job of the police?
In this case, Femi Otedola isolated the individuals involved and accused them of collecting the bribe. He never at any time accuse the House of Rep. or the committee as a whole. Why can the House isolate individual and resist the attempt of dragging the integrity of the National Assembly into mud?

No sir...I humbly disagree..a man witout skeleton in his cupboard will be bold to face anybody...especially now dat d case is with police, sss and in d public.. Everyone will be careful..shebi he invited Faroul to his house and Faroul went, why shouldn't he also go to Farouk's house? Let's not judge yet.. Anything can still happen..we are on d outside, they are on d inside and believe me, some things are still hidden.. Let dem wash their dirty liniens in public so we can see the "koko"
At least its on record Farouk reported the offer way back April, with police docs and texts as evidence.."Wat if he collected the money to play along"?
Otedola gave the money and got it recorded on video.."Then blew the whistle"
This is a James Hadley Chase novel, none of us on the outside can unravel yet.

So please, moderator, I'm not taking sides, and don't expect U to take sides either..at least..Not Yet...thank U

And anyone that says Otedola is a good guy definately doesn't know anything about Nigeria economy..the Reps may be rougues, but compared to Otedola, Reps are petty thieves..there are few people holding this nation to ransom and the idiot Otedola is one of them.. I av it on good record dat Otedola said: as long as he sells diesel, Nigeria can neva av stable electricity.
Let's not debate 2 thieves abeg..its not worth it.
Otedola invited Farouk, he went, so if de invite him, he should go..

Dear Nairaland, the synopsis of this thread is already bias..as media, U should be neutral and allow the people voice witout ur guidance... The statement, quoting you.." the same house want to use Femi Otedola as sacrificial lamb" is already judgemental..(U know wat I mean) It shows you are already on Otedola's side..by refering to him as sacrificial lamb..mind U, We haven't heard the last of this case.
Nevertheless, Otedola is a big boy, big enof to set-up one of the brightest house of reps members. So he should go there, he can take care of himself

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Wordsmith: Illegal Music II was a piss poor sequel to Illegal Music I and a sore dissapointment. God, i couldn't the number of times i had to skip tracks. The sampling was shabbily done compared to the previous mixtape, MI now sounds complacent with his flow and delivery, it was like there was a missing component.

Arguably the best song - Export; had Yung 6ix sonning MI on the track.

Only teenyboppers would enjoy IM2, serious heads would dislike this mixtape.

I have not heard OTT but i hope it is what i've heard it is. By the way, Sauce Kid's Da Ripoff still tops has Naija's best mixtape.

Stop hating bro..and stop sentiments.. I think U shld av ur own radio show..I'm not even comparing dem now. But 4 U 2 make dose statements, its nothing but sentimental overblown obvious hate
....Drink water

Dipwater: @dsoj pls how long have u been inda game ? M I didn't wake anybody up it wus just his time ,I guess u started appreciating rap music when M I came up . My man truheads don dey listen to mode far back. I think naija appreciates commercial music a lot. Evribody wants to dance, but there are few pips out there dat trully listen to music cuz of the lines

No be today...we don de hear rap since d days of MC hammer, we fit small o, but we know rap, we know music..we hear Nas, Coolio, ice cube, dr dre, xhibit, master p, snoop, method man, nutty by nature, 2pac baba, biggie, heavy d, ludacris, eazy e...we con enta Naija...if music genre is not originally urs d best U can do is to make it ur and allow ur home bas feel U.. Who is feeling Mode? D best he has done is hate rap which don't last. MI has classics. In short I no talk again. MI rules simple..EOD

Cassius Clay what i do to the List-ah
Rappers are vex ah
Chasing MI with a vespa
Some na keke NAPEPs ah
Not a threats sir
MI is a jet sir
Fly higher that IRS ah
Helicopter flow, tyreless ah
These rappers are kids ah
Low connection wireless ah
See d track list
MI paving the way, John the Baptist
MI doing d thing round the atlas
Rappers blowing up and MI the catalyst
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Dhelake: u're callin Eldee an upcoming artise ... This shws u knw nothin

Don't be sentimental and try to read well...I didn't say El-Dee is up coming, I meant al dis guys dat started out as rappers, citing El-Dee and Dr Sid as examples. Wat are de doing today? De don't dare rap like b4, becos a real rapper is on d scene...MI... Ya heard

javalove: These names you are typing shows u know very little about the kind of rap Modenine does. . .I can't tell you more than that. . . Comparing Naeto C, Ice prince etc to Mode says alot about your appreciation for realness and lyricism. .

Like I said, threads like this bring insult to Mode. . .



#Javalove. . .unless otherwise stated. . .!

Bros...collu down...read am well...I said MI woke dose people up and de all started adding flavor to deir rap. Wat is Mode rapping naw? In 2012? Still doing gangsta hardcore? Things av changed mhennn...whoz gonna buy it? E go tey 4 dere. MI rules mhennnn. Where is Elajoe sef? Rememba wen Nas came to Nigeria, de were jumpin up and down d stage..wat happened afta...? LoL.

Weda y'all like it or Not.. MI came and redefined d rap structure..added d desired flavor...turned Ruggedy into star quest presenter..Mode 9 ran out of d scene...woke ice prince and Jesse Jags.. Naeto C followed suite and infused d desired flavor Naija needs. Witout dat same flavor, DaGrin wouldn't av climed..ask El-Dee, ask Dr.Sid, any upcoming artistes wants to make impact and requires to feature a rapper? Call MI..
ok...ask big brands and show promoters...this is Naija and Mode 9's gangsta hardcore is thrash here. MI has it all, lyrics, punchline, flow, rhymes..above all.. MI is a poet..

Forget it... MI is King..Naija, we don't av time for hardcore..all dat 1 na grammar..its not our style. We wanna rock and sing along..dats why ice price, Reminince, Naeto C av fan base. Make Mode 9 carry him gangsta harcore go Brooklyn.. abeg.

Dangote cannot rule dis country..a member of d cabal? he made money thru govt stuffs, he'l definately be liable to people dat made him. He is friend to all govts and sponsors the winning party.
Babangida n Buhari?...God 4bid
Tinubu?...has guts. But too many enemies.there'l always be turbulence
Fashola?....yinmu...wat has he really done in Lagos sef?
GEJ? Holy Ghost fireeee
D list is a recycle bin...high time we start looking for people with guts, conscience and fresh ideas...people dat can take on d cabal, fear of God, rugged..

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Bullshit. Scam. Serious Mediocrity. A school collecting over 400k as fees? How do U want dem to justify d fees if de don't dash dem 1st class? Abeg joor.. 80 of dose so called 1st class grads can't do wat a polytechnic grad can do.. I was with dem @ NYSC camp som years back.. De are mostly dumb spoon fed children. De couldn't write application. Let dere be a public debate and open academic competition, U'll see their folly..

Oba is wise and knows wat he is doing. He is human and representative of gods. PDP gave Edo a gov, who for 8yrs did absolutely nothing for the state..stole state money and is still a free man today. And U still expect him to endorse anoda PDP candidate over a superbly performing gov? Nooooo. GEJ shld go back and tackle Boko Haram, Subsidy, Electricity and leave Adams alone to do d work his party man cldnt do in 8yrs..