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Romance › Re: Is "Men Are Polygamous In Nature" A Fact Or Just An Excuse For Infidelity? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:10am On Aug 04
The only reason women don't orgasm is because of O. S.

Because O S she has to ride men she does not like and men she would never have allowed to touch her, so how can she orgasm?

So, while men like women a lot, women on the other hand only like a few selected men. But because of O.S she has pretends to like even though she does not, so in all that pain and sorrow and regret, how can she orgasm?

immortalcrown:
Going by nature, women are the ones that should be considered polygamous.

An average man has no need to bed many women but an average woman has the need to bed many men...

I am not supporting any form of sexual immorality. But let us face the reality. An average woman can satisfy up to 80% of the men that sleep with her. But an average man cannot satisfy up to 80% of the women that sleep with him. A man that sleeps with 10 different women will probably ejaculate (orgasm) on those 10 occasions. A man that sleeps with only one woman 20 times will probably ejaculate (orgasm) on those 20 occasions. But a woman that sleeps with 10 men will likely not reach orgasm up to 5 times out of those 10 times. A woman that sleeps with only one man for 20 times may not reach orgasm up to 10 times with him. Now, tell me the gender that naturally has the reason or need to keep sleeping around in search of satisfaction.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 1:38pm On Aug 03
FxMasterz:
The lady is not forced to marry the man. The man is the one being punished. He has no choice except the lady rejects him. If a man rapes a mentally unstable woman now, he MUST marry her. Only the woman has a choice in this matter.
Stop lying against God for God can never ever support an evil thing nor give an unjust judgement at all which is what everyone is telling you, that, your interpretation is wrong because it is unfair and unjust and it departs from the natural just is that a rap1st must get the capital punishment.

God can never give an unjust judgement and He never did for it people like you who make people say blasphemies against God. If you don't stop, you are not innocent of those people's blasphemies for i think this is about the 3rd time i am telling you that you are wrong yet, you do not heed. God shall surely require the blood of the blasphemers from your hands.
Culture › Re: Which Of These Games Did You Play While Growing Up? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:52am On Aug 03
Catcher

Fire on the mountain

Choose your country

Police and thief

Cowboy and Indian.

Pilolo

Number game where you run to the centre of the field to take the handkerchief (flag) from your opposing number and carry him to your house (side of your number line)

I chop your house (nail game)
Christianity Etc › Re: Vainglory: One Of The Seven Deadly Sins by Dtruthspeaker: 10:02am On Aug 03
More accurately it should be called self glowry or self praise or glowry of self.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 9:57am On Aug 03
lailo:
That's what most aggrieved married women dont know. Once u kkowingly estrange sex in your marriage u already destroy the marriage. Nothing more
They know! Women have known this for centuries why do you think they always offer sex whenever they want things from you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 9:53am On Aug 03
Philosopher1979:
TO BE HONEST ITS NOT FAIR.
IT MEANS THAT IF A MAN TRIES TO WOO A LADY AND
SHE DOES NOT AGREE FOR THE MAN.
ALL THE MAN HAS TO DO IS RAPE HER.
THEN HE BECOMES HIS WIFE.
IT ENCOURAGES FORCED MARRIAGE.
THE WOMANS CONSENT IS NOW SOUGHT IN WETHER SHE LIKES THE MAN OR NOT.
SHE IS JUST FORCED TO MARRY WHOEVER RAPES HER.
IT MAKES WOMEN VICTIMS.
IF YOU LIKE A GIRL. NO STRESS. JUST RAPE HER AND TELL HER PARENTS YOU WANT TO MARRY HER.
ITS FUNNY AND WICKED
That is why what he said is wrong and I corrected him
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 9:24am On Aug 03
chiboycue:
Sex is not marriage. Sex is done within marriage
I have already finished showing that sex is marriage and causes marriage, so, you are saying another thing of which everyone knows that sex normally continues in marriage as usually i did not say that sex is a one time thing. So, you miss
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op):
Geovanni412:
Oga, answer the question and stop redirecting it

If you want to contradict, mention your points not this thing you are doing.

They have given specific examples of polygamous men after God's heart, you are yet to mention just one monogamous man.

If you have nothing, accept reality.
Why are you getting angry?
I just wanted to give you a chance to correct yourself but since you insist, then the people you forgot are the very 3 Champions of God whom God scored and called "PERFECT" where people say no man is perfect. And out of them three, two of them were married while one was single.

And no one guilty of multiple wives (polygamy) ever scored the score of "PERFECT". Not One.

And these are
1) Noah and he only had one wife.
2 ) Daniel: A single man like Jesus, Paul and the disciples.
3) Job: had one wife
4) Zacharias: had one wife.

5) Mary and Joseph (Honourable mention) The Monogamous Family from whence Jesus came.


These clearly and not disputably points out that God approves Only Single hood or Monogamy but not polygamy.
Business › Re: Court Fines Stanbic IBTC For Illegal Customer Data Processing, Orders Deletion by Dtruthspeaker: 8:30am On Aug 03
irumanle:
There are so many ways to make money from these big corporations but Nigerians are not learned. I love the law, especially its emotional detachment
Like you want to do a court case against the bank.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 8:48pm On Aug 02
Blakjewelry:
Silly you, these are different scenario entirely. These are people who's homes where attacked and their fathers and mothers murdered and the young women especially virgins captured and you are talking about preferring being captives, will wish bokoharam or bandits raid your home and murder your father and mother and take your sisters captive and marry them since they believe it's a command from their God?
Why do you keep disgracing yourself? Even though you see Ukraine/Russia, US/Iraq war and all that is taking place today, you still speak like one living in Amazon village?

C'mon when bandits shoot at your car to stop, you stop and lift up your hands for them to take you captive, then you start begging that they should sell your properties because you don't want to go and meet God, why did you not choose they shooting? You don't have any valid argument to make
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Want To Go To Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:02pm On Aug 02
judewrites:
Hell and heaven are both as real as the phone in your hands!

Hell is far worse beyond any human imagination and heaven is so wonderful beyond human imagination!
They know.

They know that God can never take them so, like the people of Sodom and Gomorah, they are just trying to cope with the fact that it is never their portion hence all these noise they make to get unnecessary attention
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Want To Go To Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:59pm On Aug 02
Ubanz:
Are you out of your mind?
Wetin concern me & your heaven?
He call your name? Just drive as you dey drive you go reach where you deserve to be
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Want To Go To Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:56pm On Aug 02
tsmith:
I no longer practice any religion, but believe me, if the concept were to be true, the thoughts of hell trumps any thoughts of heaven for me!
You are already booked there, so when you got cancer, you better tell your people not to pray
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 7:52pm On Aug 02
GreenCovering:
The verse made it expressly clear that the wait of the man for one month is for the woman to mourn her parents claimed by the war. It didn't say to seek her consent. Consent was not discussed. It is not an option for the woman from the verse. Resulting to asking what do I think would have been happening while waiting for one month or scripted movies is baseless. The man could have been married before so having other wives.
Is the verse talking to robots? I Know you Muslims have given away your humanity and therefore you act like robots pretending not to understand human relations and events.

Every reasonable person whether Christian or not, as is shown here
understand that the Commandments simply created a technical suspension of the next natural activity that must take place in such a scenario.

And of course, you have an issue here because in your religion this is an opportunity to rape, which you would have even done even before you take her captive, not to talk of taking her to your house.

So, you find it unacceptable to understand that unlike your religion that even said that you can rap3

https://www.nairaland.com/2897984/rape-allowed-islam-during-times#42418198

https://www.nairaland.com/5718258/allah-allows-women-raped-reason#87155869

God rather command that no man must rape even in war and then He makes it worse for you by even saying that, in addition he still cannot take her immediately but must wait one month.

So, every reasonable person can see that, that commandment does not say that she MUST mourn her family rather it gives her reasonable opportunity to mourn and of course it is reasonably expected that the man would comfort her as shown in the movies i told you.

But, since you Muslims love to think that your religion is the same with Christianity, you cannot accept my pointing out that it is different, for in line with Natural Law, no Christian is permitted to rape, and those movies show you that even in war, we can still have and warn a captive's love and consent without having to defile or rap3

And as you see, no one was accused of doing so in that condition, because in God and Christianity, Rap3 is a capital offence like blasphemy.

GreenCovering:
You need to prove at the bolded because none of the verses quoted above talked about the woman the giving her consent.
Now, you are pretending as if you don't know.

From the Bible,
Dinah's case, Tamar's case, Rachel and Leah's servants case etc

From Google
In the past, cultural and social rules were very strict. Having sex often meant a formal promise, a family obligation, or mandatory marriage.Old

Rules and Customs
> Family Honor: Societies expected marriage to follow intimacy to protect family reputation and social standing.14th to 19th

> Century Laws: Many old traditions treated physical intimacy as a binding contract or proof of intent to wed.

So, this is where I draw the curtain for their is no reasoning with a Muslim for you people either twist Truths or pretend not to know natural Truths when you see that you have been proven wrong.

So, continue in your way of belief but one thing is sure that when God Comes, we would all know our Judgements and fate
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 6:57pm On Aug 02
Blakjewelry:
But you are allowed to own and held her captive and marry her when she has no choice.
If you were in Ukraine or Lebanon now, let us see whether you won't choose captivity over being shot

As I said, intelligence is far from you atheists
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 6:54pm On Aug 02
Blakjewelry:
But you the god who you claim created and love all human allow you own and hold a fellow human captive and marry them against their wish.
You atheist are never alright nor say.n.. Every reasonable person understand that love has Rules and Laws and how it operates and that love abused brings destruction and death.

So, every reasonable and normal person knows what love all humans means and to what extent that love is. And they know where love is not as shown by he Amelekites, Sodomits, Gomorahites and co, that He wiped out, which every reasonable person knows that they were supposed to be wiped out just like everyone expects for boko to be.

But, the only people who never see this are you atheist and unfortunately
"You can't wake a person like you pretending to sleep".So, please carry your irrationality away
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 5:11pm On Aug 02
Geovanni412:
Secondly, there is no monogamous man in the Bible that God had covenant with.
Are you sure? Or do you want to re- check?
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 5:10pm On Aug 02
Geovanni412:
There is no where polygamy is expressly condemned in the Bible

If you find it, share with us
That is why I said that at least you do not expressly say that the Bible said that it is permitted to marry 2 and more wives. That is one huge point against polygamy

So, Before I share it, i gave you point 2 which the hint 1 that by after David and co you do not read of any Israelite having 2 wives, or do you contest these points or are you going to accept them?
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 5:05pm On Aug 02
GreenCovering:
The verse in Deuteronomy 21:13 makes it clear that the only barrier for the captor to start going in on the captured woman is the wait for a period of one month. Not consent to marriage. And a condition for selling her off, after this stage, is if he does not like her in bed. As stated in the supporting verse. So how is this departing from the issues?
The question is what would he be doing to the woman he likes during that period of "wait" ? Is it not reasonable for him to show her love and kindness and all? Do you not see in movies like Troy where, Achilles captured Briseis and made her fall in love with him.

Google
+8 In the 2004 movie Troy, Achilles does not "make" Briseis fall in love with him through trickery or force; rather, their relationship develops through mutual respect, shared vulnerability, and consensual romance

Others include Crouching Tiger hidden Dragon, Red , Seven Brides For Seven Brothers (These movies might not be ob point but the idea is for you to see that it is indeed possible for the man to win and earn the love (consent) of a captive.

And of course consent to sex is consent to marriage in those days.

The if he does not like her is another topic, hence a departure from the issue you raised which is about how he could obtain her consent and love within that "wait" period
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 3:29pm On Aug 02
clerkent:
Is there anything in the Bible that we are doing right
At least, let us write down the right for any who may want to do them
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 3:23pm On Aug 02
Surjay1988:
My dear friend, I believe this passages is being misunderstood. Before a woman is called a wife, there must first be a recognized marriage. In the Old Testament, if a man seduced a young woman, he was not automatically considered her husband. He was required to take responsibility by paying the bride price and formally marrying her, unless her father refused the marriage.

This is clearly taught in Exodus 22:16–17 and Deuteronomy 22:28–29, where the man was required to fulfill his obligations before the woman became his wife. The Bible does not endorse sexual immorality; rather, it requires accountability and upholds the sanctity of marriage.

I encourage you to read the entire chapter instead of relying on isolated verses, because taking Scripture out of context can lead to misunderstanding. As the Bible says, "Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved... who correctly handles the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15, NIV)

May God grant us all wisdom and understanding as we study His Word together. God bless you all.
The bold shows that we are on the same page just that, you believe in the popular notion of marriage being one that has to do with the public show and performance of marriage, in the presence of the parents and families of the couples.

But, marriage is wider than that for if a man and a woman have traveled away from their families to a foreign land, are you saying that they cannot marry because their families cannot be present with them? I believe you yourself will agree that they have a right to marry. So, what then, would be their marriage?

And this is where the passages show us the scenarios where marriage has taken place in the Eyes of God! (Although, this was not really the direction of the thread)
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 3:14pm On Aug 02
FxMasterz:
The punishment is for the man. The girl can reject to marry the man.

That means if a man rapes a mentally unstable woman for instance, he must marry the woman. The victim is not under any obligation to marry her rapis. She can reject him but if she likes the man, the man does not have the option of rejecting the woman.
Wrong!
All Rapes get the capital punishment
.

That verse is not about rape but about undue pressure of making a girl to have sex with him even though she would would have agreed if they were marriage. Exactly what happened to Dinah

So, it is not rape and Google even confirms this saying

The Unengaged Woman Case (Deuteronomy 22:28-29): The Hebrew verb used here is taphas (translated as "lay hold" in KJV), which means to catch or grasp. Many scholars and parallel laws, like Exodus 22:16-17, indicate this law covers premarital sex or seduction rather than violent assault


So, all Rapes whether of normal girl or old woman or the infirm, get the capital punishment
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op):
Geovanni412:
The Bible never forbade polygamy for the pew

It only said that for pastors.

Are all of us pastors?
At least you are not saying that the Bible said that it is permitted to marry 2 and more wives unlike deetin. grin

However, the God and the Bible expressly condemned polygamy. And one sign is that by after David and co you do not read of any Israelite having 2 wives. Go and check it out
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 2:54pm On Aug 02
12345baba:
I was just saying. I saw the Corinthians parts. Nothing catch me o. cos I don't expose my life that way. Sex is too fu**** spiritual
Ok
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 2:53pm On Aug 02
deetin:
Lol I’ll not quote… you are too lazy to verify , typical
Nigerian Christian , indoctrinated.. are you even a Christian to start with? So the same religion but arguing , I’m telling you what i discovered Oga not what I was told or raised with ..

PS : because This is not the court of law so I’ll just observe my rights … so I’m not inclined or obligated to answer you , take what I said or leave it . Continue looking for escape to justify your personal conviction but na God of Bible you go still pray to if you are a Christian, know your God , know your religion and make the world a better place .. my humble advice … or rather , show us the hate in you , the floor is yours
Whether in court or out of court, every dispute, disagreement or argument is based on The Laws/Rules of making Valid, Right and True arguments.

And in this case you on your own asserted/alleged that the Bible said it is allowed to marry 2 and more wives. But when asked to give proof of it, you could not, rather you resorted to committing the fallacies of ad hominem and fallacy of appeal to fals authority.

And now here, you have returned to the fallacy of attacking me (ad hominem)/trying to reverse the burden of proof since you cannot attack the argument while crying about your inability to do so.

So, there is nothing further to say to you because the thread already shows that you alleged a thing and you could not prove it and that you have been greatly distressed by it, which is not my fallt. So, deal with it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 2:39pm On Aug 02
GreenCovering:
Thanks for explaining your points clearly. So in the spirit of speaking truly and fairly I want you to realise that the verse in Deuteronomy 21:13 did not mention anything of seeking consent. And no supporting verse spoke about consent also because the supporting verse of if she please not her master is ambiguous and could also mean her master not liking of her "taste", right?, as shown in the other verse because the taste of the man is important.
On consent, the Bible did not mention orgasm or wooing or urination or defecation, but which reasonable person does not know that these things are implied? Which man who has been given opportunity to entertain the woman he wants for one month would not go about trying woo and win the woman over to himself?

As to the bold of "if she please him not/taste" that is a separate issue of discuss. Thus, you have departed from the issue you raised
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 2:00pm On Aug 02
deetin:
You are talking about fallacy, it’s like you don’t know meaning … so Abraham that God said is the father of all nations made a mistake ? It clearly states that it is Sarah that married Hagar for abraham, her wife married a woman for him, are you with me ? But Nigerian wife wan die say dem marry join her as a Christian but she go name her daughter Sarah.. grin
If you knew the meaning of fallacy is not what I said then you would have stated so. But talking empty is obviously and fallaciously is how you speak and argue and you cannot make any valid argument only noise making.

Secondly, it is now clear that you cannot cite or quote anywhere the Bible said it is allowed to marry 2 and more wives, so, you see, you have disgraced yourself in lying against God and the Bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op):
deetin:
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I should quote , lol , if you have read Bible at all , from Abraham to Jacob to many others .. are you Christian or ore Christian than them? or you know God pass them? People wey you Dey name your pikin after, lol .. they even marrying two sisters is allowed by their farther , that’s why I said Nigerian Christians are indoctrinated rather than the religion itself … so na hell fire all of una dey go if according to Bible but Bible say make we no judge .. na doctrine and wetin my pastor talk una dey practice ,you wan argue with Bible wey be the basis of the religion? Looking for what will satisfy your sentiment but the truth is bitter as Jesus said but it sets you free so keep following your pastor and doctrine .
Stop committing the fallacy of argumentum ad hominem (attacking the man).

Attack the argument, if you can and on it you have not done so as you are only stating people who can be said to have broken The Law, like Ned Nwoko and co

So, in essence you cannot quote where the Bible said it is allowed to marry 2 and more wives WHEREAS, i CAN QUOTE YOU SOME !

so, last chance" Quote where the Bible said it is allowed to marry 2 and more wives, if at all you have read the Bible if not rest
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op):
GreenCovering:
Is this not kidnapping, raping and conversion to forced marriage?
Let us speak Truly and fairly. It is not kidnapping for kidnapping is one done during an unlawful attack on a territory during peacetime.

But this is War and in war, there are only 2 outcomes for the persons in the land at war as you see in Russia vs Ukraine, etc, which is death or captivity

And I'm very sure that you would prefer captivity over death. Thus, it is not kidnapping.

Then, it is not forced marriage because that is what the one month mourning is for, for we all can see that the man who takes her would have to show her love and kindness to win her over to himself (consent). But, if he is not successful, then he can sell her since he has not entered her.

So, no kidnapping nor forced marriage as the one month is for him to obtain her consent
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 1:10pm On Aug 02
Geovanni412:
So, according to your argument

Lot, Abraham's nephew, married his daughters since he had sex with them when he was drunk.

Is that correct?
Did he willingly have sex with them? No.
Therefore, that is raype. And already we can all see that raype is not marriage
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 12:24pm On Aug 02
Zooposki:
Imagine marrying your rapist. What a trauma. Cant even wish that on my worst enemy. Thunda fire you and your god.
Where did you see marry your Ray. Beast where it was even Said that he must be stoned?

Your portion
https://www.nairaland.com/7841560/jennifer-dan-found-dead-ripped#125805217
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Passages That Show That Sex Is Marriage by Dtruthspeaker(op): 12:15pm On Aug 02
Fiscus105:
Is man and man or woman to woman use to have sex or they deceiving themselves?

Even if they have, you are the one that is ignorant here and not Op, you only want to proof "use les" point to proof relevancy.

Op is talking about man and woman in marriage, having intimate relationship, you came here gragra to argue and lament as usual. If you people doesn't opposite every post on forum, your body will never calm down.
God bless you

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