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eph12:
Read somewhere they are having issues

I'm not a participant of MMM united, but I doubt they are having issues and if truly they are, I only said MMM can do it for just a month (though not healthy) and normalizes things back. Good morning!

thePretender:
A programming language Used for coding webpages

OK, thanks. Please do and educate us all.

thePretender:
I think i can create an MMM scenario using php...
Putting all variables into consideration...
New members daily, referrals amongst other things, wud do it for a controlled amount of people and simulate it over a 90(days) period.. By 90days i mean 90 reloads of the script, then I'd log my findings and hopefully shed more light on what really goes on

sorry what's PHP?. Ayam not understanding.

eph12:
Number 5 is one of the reasons why I believe they're not coming back. They're just incurring more debts for the system. It does not just make any sense

if MMM united can run 100%, they should be able to run 60 for this 1 month. Though not healthy.

gook:
Bro,
I go pay ham oooo if I have to...But there has to be an option of immediate matching if you want so you can PH IMMEDIATELY.I dont want to wait for 30days(new mavro maturity) again before I can GH.

I havent provided new help as it stands cos when the whole freeze thing happened,PH was the last thing on my mind.Na anger full my head then but am a bit relaxed now.

An option for you to PH and get immediate matching should be provided while another option should be created for the normal new guys for 30days maturity.

So with this, you can choose to PH immediately...this will be used for mainly people in freeze mode while the other option will make new people have some time before been matched.

just my thoughts tho.

hmmm, be it immediate matching or not, the sustainability is what matters to me. If we can get this right, then MMM will stay. They really need to change some things happening in the system.

They also need to be proactive with issue of fake POP. That away can send the system on extinct.

gook:
Best topic/Thread have read since this MMM freeze mode thing.

No single idiotic comment so far. Nice one brilliant chaps

For me

1. Guiders monies have to be cut off big time..Mayb MAX just 5% on their second generation downlines. Dont forget they also get 10% referal bonus as normal.(awon ole jatititi) their numbers never go.

2. Super guiders should be on break and just be normal participants till things get going well again if atall;afterall they have made massive money.

3.PH 30% atleast of your intended GH..Now this is tricky
- is it just PH and then afterwards u can GH.People will PH the30%,get their money and cancel or just abandon the PH afterwards.

- will u have to pay out the 30% and get payment confirmation before u can GH..Question is MMM has made alot broke already so u are even adding to the worries/panic/anger/frustration if i need to pay out more to get my frozen money.

4.All guiders must be compelled to get atleast 10 active downlines PHing else,be evicted and become normal participant.

5. Mavro already 30 days old by now should stop growing.They are just adding more deficits to the system with this mavro growth during freeze mode.some mavros were close to 30 days before the freeze mode thing happened meaning by jan 14th (if really they wanna come back),some would have grown by almost 60 days total.Imagine the 1 mill PHs and above.


Overall,I beleieve if they really wanna come back..they can,but not on the present terms and conditions that have made some(minority) overnight millionaires(chuddy...i see u baby,no b your fault tho) while majority suffer for.

I have about 500k stuck in there but common sense has told me to be prepared for the worst while hoping for the best.

Like you read my mind before writing this. A lot has to be checked. The system can stand back again if they really want it to. Frivolous spendings has to be checked then together we will be able to change the world.

About the 30% PH, this must be paid before help can be gotten ( though quite a lot of us are trapped in the system) so to get the money might become a problem. But it's the only way members won't leave the system.

yemshine:
What is the probability that MMM will unfreeze the mavros in January

unfreezing of the mavros is not the problem, the problem is members willingness to provide help. I have quite a reasonable amount of money too to gh but if members fail to provide help, how will they get help? Remember, we are MMM and MMM is we. Either we protect it or crash it. I hope the 30% provide help will be implemented before one is allowed to get help if not members will want to shy away from the platform after getting help. And issue of fake POP is properly sorted out.

MrOra:
Yeah you're right. I just feel they should have hit this rock before and the team should have modified the rules and procedures that would have averted the present situation.

exactly and the panic won't be too heavy. I still believe in the platform until January 13. I hope new rules guiding provide help will be implemented as they now have a good member base. Until then, all hope are not lost.
It feels great chatting with brilliant folks....you are not an exception

MrOra:
Lol so you're implying MMM is self sufficient? And the only variable is size of participants.

yes sir. Provided they modify one or two things.

MrOra:
Sigh you're really driving in and around the point. Let's say in an instance where 1 + 1 is not equal to 2 in a business, you'll definitely trace it down to a number deduction or addition, in this case a factor that caused the irregularity. In football the only defined equation is that 1 + 1 is not always 2 and it's so because no definite factor can be pointed at as the causative and dispelled or encouraged.

now I get you. But what concerns football match with MMM?
I'm lost.

MrOra:
Football isn't a game of numbers, a team having a player red carded can end up winning the match, a team with 1 shot on target can win the match after the opponents bombarded with 20 shots and no goal. In MMM, in business, 1 + 1 = 2 every single time.

I really don't understand what you guys are talking here though but I sure know in business 1+1 is not always 2.
Remember some participants will die after providing help and it also happens same way in the Banking sector. In essence, 1+1 is not always 2 in business.


NB: I didn't say 1+1 is not 2 in business, I only said it's not always 2

MrOra:
The Mavrodi guy started this idea way back, it's more than a decade. Now even 2011, 5 years is a long time.

you must have forgotten what I said that if they don't put things in order I.e doing one or two modifications then it will crash with time. And I'm optimistic they will put that into consideration.

MrOra:
The way you related it to the population. Is it that the minimum threshold of MMM is equal to the total population of its operating country? Maybe I'm getting it wrong do shed more light.

whichever way you see it and always have it in mind that the members are the owners of MMM so every single person is needed meaning the minimum threshold might actually be the maximum threshold.

MrOra:
When we say minimum threshold here are we referring to the minimum number of customers needed to sustain the business over a protracted time or, as you implied here, the maximum number of customers that can be gotten from the existing population.

lol....every business has its own minimum threshold. What makes you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

MrOra:
For a business idea that has spanned more than a decade I think failure in addressing the said outdated policies points at an intentional neglect.

lol..remember they started the pairing of members in 2011( I don't think it's up to a decade) and if they find nothing to do about this, then crashing will be inevitable.
PS: I'm a participant but the truth must be told no matter how ugly it looks.