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awosmart:
I am very happy to read your feedback. I believe, we are here to educate ourselves. long life pig farmers.
The first farm to import PIC pigs to Nigeria is Astron farm Ltd. pure breed of Large white, Landrace,PIC 410(terminal sires) and terminal gilts were imported to Nigeria, Nov.,2013. I worked on the farm as Animal geneticist. JSR pigs( terminal sires)
were also imported from SA by IAR and T, Ikenne around that time.
I choose to know more about pig industry in Nigeria. Forgive my passion.
I appreciate your correction on the misuse of "pure breed ".I should have used "purebrand". Anyway, that is Nigerianism.
I salute you sir.

It has been a while I commented in this thread. ayosmart i thought Astron imported camborough pigs, and when you use the term terminal sire line, in my limited knowledge of pig genetics you mean the boars imported are solely for producing market pigs and not establishing a breeding line. I happen to have seen the boars at iart, they have large white, landrace, duroc and one called genconverter.
The desire for pure bred pigs is universal but hybrids are better suited for most commercial farms. We need to specialise and allow breeder farms handle the management of the pure lines. Large white and landrace are reputed sow line breeds while the duroc are terminal. The current rave camborough is actually a large white /landrace hybrid. I believe farmers should know this and know what they are buying. Pure breeds are far more expensive than hybrids.
Lastly management of these breeds is very vital so in your desire to aquire, have in mind that the purest breed with suboptimal care is a waste of resources.
I would love to see a picture of your animals ayosmart.

Mine too was not aware of the meeting

gxworld:
@beeza how about the meeting with monitors. What was the outcome? My monitor was not aware...

You guys should leave madam Ngozi alone she is fighting a bigger personal battle now. I only pray that YouWiN isn't infected by corruption because that will spell doom for the program. Let due process take it's full course. Are you aware that some awardees absconded with their first tranche?

Have you guys read your agreement letter lately? Government can cancel or modify the youwin grant at anytime. Antagonizing the ministry of finance might backfire so i would advice you allow them conclude their due process. Before you attack me, i am among the 215. We would loose if we try to embarrass the government. During my spot check on Thursday i was expressly told that i should seek alternative means of funding while the ministry of finance take their time. Online aluta will backfire.

iyomomo:
So How did u deal with d problem?

I just changed my feed that's all. A friend said he used penstrep for 2 days.

iyomomo:
Hello farmers in d house.
This is my 1st time posting here.
We have owned a pig farm for about 8yrs now. But recently just started having problems with gilts being served. This is d 3rd time in d past few months dis is happening. When gilts are served, at about 4-6 weeks, a few start trembling and seem paralyzed in d hind limbs, tho dey are still able to feed and stand up for a few seconds. Some recover but either miscarry or have stillbirth or low litters of 3-4 (after much struggle)
After d whole episode, d pigs seem not try to be able to ever recover, the look lean an malnourished but agile. The whole thinformation is disheartening.
Pls does anyone have experience with dis type of problem? We need help ASAP.
Thanks!

where is your farm and what do you feed? I had same experience last year and i suspected mouldy feed. I would suggest you invite a vet.

boluwajokosegun:
@ eazeefix ,pls where is ur farm

ijebu ode

Thanks for digging up this thread again. I dug to the 4th page before I gave up. Nice to be back, Lagbaja your analysis na baba! Deji is setting the standard of business integrity.
My breeder pigs are sired by large white and landrace boars while our sows could be pure large whites or landraces but usually our sows are hybrids. We call them breeders becos we selected them from good producers with excellent mothering traits and good lean growth. They have a minimum of 14 teats for both male and female. I will share pics later.
The brother who inquired about piggery biz, I would suggest fattening model for quicker returns except you have the patience to wait for 2 years. Starting a poultry or fish farm with a piggery isn't a good idea except you have enough money for each enterprise. A piggery/poultry combo is great if well planned with adequate distance between them . it is great for cash flow and cash is KING in this business.
Wish you all the best!

Na waoh! This story would have more credibility if pictures followed it. Let's wait for Amaechi's response.

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glowdot4:
Hi great people,

Going thru some post here has given me some vital n basic information I need to start up my farm. I feel at home and not walking alone(not a liverpool fan). Am looking at starting next weekend in a rented pen with 7 animals, 6 breeding female n a male for a start and close to an experience farmer since I do not have prior experience. I hope to recourse to you here,if I encounter any challenge or to seek clarification on areas that hasn't been discussed here. Pls whenever u hear my call, help a sister.

The whole house is here for you

Niyoga:
where is your farm at oke aro cos i too am a farmer @ oke aro too, road b old farm.
I will to see your breeds too.

I am based in ijebu ode not oke aro

This is open market Deji is a committed pig farmer and his efforts to improve our genetics should be commended.
He is offering breeders not Fattener pigs. I bought 6 breeder 12 weeks old growers from obasanjo farm @ 30k each. So where is the fraud.
If you are a breeder you wouldn't mind the cost of introducing superior genes into your brood.
I am buying a few from him becos I am looking for some traits I want to stamp into my pigs.
If you can't afford his pigs it is Ok but I do not subscribe to the insults. It is an open market. I sell my breeders for 5k I don't sell my fatteners someone came from oke aro and packed 25 she wanted 20 so fellow farmers if u see what u like and like what u see u won't mind paying for it.

Our breeder weaners enroute oke aro. Nice to be appreciated

please share picture of farm and the structures for sale

I think mine was bad management of the gilt and feed too. Learnt my lesson next time I will not be too far from the farm.
@ Efosa I bought the landrace for 30k each @ 12 weeks old from obj farms Ota.

The gilt was approx 8 months old and toped 70kg at the time of mating. Deija(I prefer Deji joor) your comment brings up another important issue of relevance of weight in breeding animals in the tropics. I read in a book on pig production in the tropics that large gilts and sows are important due to heat and all. I get my best results from my big sows I have adopted 60-70kg as weight @ first mating after an awful experience with 40kg(bad advice from a senior who visited my farm)
Can experienced farmer shed more light on this?
Farrowing crate fabrication will start on Monday.

Not to derail this thread exclesoir na my oga so let's move on.
Can we discuss cannibalism in nursing pigs. I read it is common in first time gilts has anyone been able to overcome it?
My obj landrance ate 5 of her 8 piglets I have mated her again and I no want take chances.

I am a pig farmer and have invested heavily in it permit me to defend it when comments that portray it in bad light is shared. Earlier in this thread someone claimed pork was fatty and therefore inferior to other meat I stood up my beloved pork.
Food is a very sensitive issue people respond differently and some over react. I was a poultry farmer I know what farmers went through during the 2006 bird flu saga. The sun newspaper had a screaming headline "Eat chicken and die" so you can imagine the ripple effect of that stunt.
Little children have been taught to wash all fruits before eating.
So my summary is that there is nothing special zooniotically (I formed it :-) ) about pig poo.
This forum should promote ethical pig production well produced pigs do not transmit worms.

excelsiorfarm:
i no spoil market, make your research any, no manure as good as poultry waste, i dont write what i dont know , also zoonosis is high in d use of such manure

Which manure does not have health challenges if not properly handled? You are a respected commentator on NL with large following such statement will create fear that pig manure has higher health risks than others.
Zoonosis, also called zoonotic disease refers to diseases that can be passed from animals, whether wild or domesticated, to humans.
Kindly share with us how pig manure is more of a risk than other farm yard manure

excelsiorfarm:
assumptions? Next time u send me a secret mail that the question asked, that giving a factual answer to it might affect d goods u intend to sell. Do your research anywhere & it will inform u that poultry waste is better than pig,though it can be use as i wrote, also d risk of zoonosis is high in garden, for plantain, note with minimal nutrient, they still strive, visit profs or docs in agric dept for scientific composition & come back to post sir

The original question was if pig waste was suitable as manure not a comparison between pig and poultry manure so your response was sort of telling us to look for poultry waste instead. Cow manure is inferior to poultry's (the best ) but farmers use it with excellent results.

excelsiorfarm:
relatively poor in nutrient in comparison to poultry manure, though it can be used, not wise for farms that you easily feed on e.g gardens

On what scientific fact are u basing your assumption on sir? I use my pig manure on my plantain and vegetable farm with excellent results. Pls I dey find market for my manure no spoil am on assumptions sir

jojofarms:
For the best feed for you malnourished and stunted growing piglets. Call 08100814297 or mail me akinjoleyinka@yahoo.com #2500 for 25kg bag. Optimum gwoth of your weaners and growers.

Bros I don't know why your product is this costly becos animalcare's weaners mash is 1800 but I use top feed super starter when I feel too lazy to compound my feed. Pls see how u can bring down this price.

bloodmeal isnt the cause of your sow eating their piglets read the article above

No 'alert this week' from YouWin this week

Krak:
Pls take any political argument out of this thread. And for your info there is still freedom of speech.

The fact that you gave someone money and helped him does not mean you will not have your differences.

Lets remember that.

The greatest harm we can do to YouWin is to .make it political. The last time I checked I didn't win becos of my political affiliation to any political party but merit and God's favor . let's keep it that way.

In layer production you need to define ur target, egg size or egg numbers and feed consumed. The difference in egg size is minimal and the egg numbers neutralises any difference. Egg size is dependent on layer weight at first egg, protein(amino acids) and energy content (oil). Give a balanced ration and ur birds will perform to their genetic potentials if properly raised.
People have their preferences I prefer brown I have achieved 98% livability from day oldto 18weeks but never got that with black.

Brown layers are more efficient than black and less susceptible to heat stroke. There used to be a difference in the sale price as spent layer becos black are usually heavier than brown but now they are priced alike.
If you want to maximise ur layer bird go for brown. There is a school of thot that says black are hardier birds than brown in my experience brown birds exposes bad management faster so if you handle ur birds right brown birds iSA brown rules!

Nonybb:
The era of boko haram is about to ease off. We are entering into another phase and we, the South-South, have sworn that AbOki will see hell when any of their Sons or daughters are sworn in to rule us. Better give it to yoruba cowards now than those cattle rearers. No more gworo-chewing-almajiri-cow-loving hausa illiterate ruling over the most ambitious intelligent Igbos and the most gifted and diversified Ijaw nation. Boko haram was your weapon, we are also preparing our own weapon to make your government ungovernable Mr Coupist

When the phantom war starts I hope you will lead from the front lines and not come and hide amongst the Yoruba cowards as you called my people. Talk is cheap if you see war you go run ask your elders. Women and children are worst hit.
Before you kill yourself over these politicians pls how has ur own community benefited by having ur brother in office? 2015 will come God's will will be done and Nigeria will make progress all enemies of our great country will die by their own weapons if they do not repent!
Enough of all these war threats if you fight it will be amongst ur people who will suffer your people ask those in borno,yobe , Adamawa how their place be!
Nigeria will survive and thrive !that is my belief that is what I shall experience.