General Ditari, the NA is seriously decimating your Ijaw communities and you're here writing epistles.

JagabanB:

They thîñk and àct Iike a hèrd controIIed with a stîck and cIaim to be intelligent.

But you guys have not been able to disprove Google, the Europeans nor Americans that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa. Is it too difficult if they're not? Roll out the evidence and stop digressing. I want people who can really give insights into why Igbo couldn't stop the British incursion into their country.

Balkanization is the best. What is it about Nigeria that people can't let go? An Igbo country, Yoruba country, Hausa country then others can realign to form theirs. Imagine a Bini kingdom and how great it would have become.

nisai:
E pain am.😂 Abi you need igbos like you with inferiority complex to help massage your empty ego.😂

No my friend. I'm actually having a good time and you cannot possibly derail the thread since you're too late and we've already gained valuable insights. In fact, I need low IQed personalities like you to keep bumping the thread for better awareness and possible reasonable answers. So why do you think that the most intelligent African tribe, the Igbo, couldn't stop the Britiah, considering that they're best positioned to do so? I'm sure the question is way beyond your league. So go play outside.

madridguy:
Leave SS out of your dirty mouth. Emergency lover of SS.

Lover of SS. We've seen you.

nisai:
keep typing the same epistle like a loose machine. Deadlytruth and others have educated you enough. There's no changing potential in you. You just want this to be the truth so bad but unfortunately, reality differs.

Creating a thread and using another moniker to defend. Chronic inferiority complex 😂😂

Nothing to contribute... so shift. We need people with the intelligence to contribute.

onumadu:


The bolded is a total opposite of the true quote:

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I add to it that the real test of intelligence is how inventive and resilient a person can be when he is under bombardment 24/7 and when he had no assurance of the next meal (because the enemy was violating all known and unknown laws of war and conventions).
Under such crucible, the Igbo-dominated nation shocked their enemies with many inventions.

You keep sidestepping the issue of autonomy, but I won't let you change the subject. ..

Why had there not been even a fully functioning international airport and seaports where goods and persons can go DIRECTLY NONSTOP to and from Igboland since the end of the war?
What are you people afraid of?
It is like tying your boxing opponent's hands and legs before declaring the fight on, and then you turn around to accuse him of claiming to be a better fighter after you've landed some blows on him.
Duh ... you tied his hands and feet first!
Untie him first, and then bring the fight on, and see if you won't be beaten to stupor.

Heck, you couldn't even conduct a simple presidential election which EVERY POLL predicted would be won by an Igbo man. You had to rig it.

Forget about the so called "unity schools"; what about JAMB and university entrance nko?
Shouldn't all Nigerians be tested purely based on intelligence? Why single out Igbo states to require higher cut-off marks?
Until you allow EVERY Nigerian to have the same cut off marks for university entrance, I will continue to say that Igbo are BY FAR more intelligent than others with lower cut-off marks.
And if you still doubt Igbo IQ superiority, give them independence and allow them to prove you right. QED.

You hit the nail on the head at the bolded. The country is even suffering the southern minorities like Akwa Ibom, Delta, Rivers and Crossriver just because of the Igbo. The policy is to slow the Igbo down even if the minority tribes go down. Unfortunately, what they couln't slow down is the natural intelligence of the Ibos. That's why Igbo kids still dominate in examinations.

nisai:
Igbo man, you aren't so bright. You created a thread stating Igbos are the most intelligent black people and you said you didn't mention Yoruba people. Are you dumb or what?

Why do you igbos like deceiving yourselves?

Point of correction. Google, the Europeans and Americans say so.
2) Hopefully, you may have an important view about why the Ibos couldn't stop the British despite being the most intelligent African tribe. Any contribution since folks like Deadlytruth have been running in circles saying nothing? As you can see,we have already proven that Igbo childresn are required to score up to 160 in unity exams or disunity exams while some of your tribes children qualify if they scire 6. A clear testimony that even your government deem Igbo the most intelligent tribe in the country. Igbo children also beat the rest of you silly in national exams with level playing fiels such as WAEC and JAMB. At least, these are facts we all are aware of (before they start rigging exams the way they rig election in the country).

So why couldn't the smartest African tribe stop the British from colonizing them?

Deadlytruth:


That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declare that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

You are jumping here and there.
1) why do Igbo children need to score 160 in an exam that other children from other tribes need to score as low as 6 to qualify if they're not deemed to be of superior intelligence even by your government?

2) Why do Igbo children lead in national exams that create level playing fields such as WAEC and JAMB? Even when they write these exams in non Igbo states?

3) Why would you be a prosecutor and judge in a case you have vested interest in as an African or even a Nigerian? Don't you think that nonAfricans such as Europeans and Americans are in the best position of objectivity to assess the most intelligent and smartest African tribe since it's obvious that as an African, emotions such as jealousy would play a role in making you distort the truth?

4) if the European countries and Americans who are obviously more advanced than you and whose schools teach you say Igbo are the most intelligent African tribe, what evidence can you provide to the contrary?

5) if you can answer any of these then I'd like you to tell us why you think that the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they're the most intelligent African tribe.

Deadlytruth:


This propaganda has been peddled by you Igbos for long and have successfully used it to hoodwink the ignorant Nigerians into believing it is a policy deliberately targeted to pull Igbo race down when in actual fact it is a fall out of the failure of the governors of the Igbo states in educational development of their region.
Take a look at the content of the link below
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268440/number-of-primary-schools-in-nigeria-by-state/

You would observe that the SE states have the lowest state government owned primary and secondary schools in Nigeria relative to their population. This therefore causes a situation whereby most Igbo kids can't find admission placement in secondary schools in their home states and therefore have to burden the other regions and the FG unity schools more than every other region. This is the simple reason why the FG therefore jacks up the cut off mark for applicants from Igbo states. It is therefore more of a statement that governors of Igbo states have failed to build schools for to their people than the alleged deliberate ploy by the Nigerian system to hold down Igbos. It is a matter of simple Economic principle of price increase when demand outweighs supply.
I know you will not open the link hence I have attached the screenshots below. You can see states like Anambra, Abia, Ebonyi at the rock bottom of the table as against states like Lagos, Oyo and even some Northern states like Kaduna and Bauchi at the top spots.




Unfortunately for you, all records in the annals of history prove clearly the fact that the forced unity was the handiwork of Igbos who had assumed that Nigeria was their to dominate.
Remind me the tribe of Azikiwe who killed all motions for secession clause. Also remind me of the tribe of Aguiyi Ironsi who promulgated the Anti-secession Decree. Remind me of the tribe of Ojukwu who crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic quest.



According to Abraham Lincoln, nearly every man has the capacity to withstand adversity, but if you want to know the weaknesses of a man, give him power '

The first part of this quote makes it clear that necessity is the mother of invention meaning that being inventive in a time of great need for survival is not really a mark of intelligence. In biology, we learned about the principle of adaptation which even lower and unintelligent animals practice to survive in times of existential threat and extremely harsh conditions.
The real test of Intelligence thus IQ is how inventive you are in a time of peace and comfort. This is what keeps America at the top of the world power table as America votes so much money for research and their scientists are always in the laboratory even in time of no visible external threat to their country.

Ever since after the war, what have Igbos ever been able to invent again?

You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

CoronaVirusPro:


Go read my past post and see the immense support I have given to The Nigerian Armed Forces. I am not one of those.

I am one of the most patriotic Nigerian on this forum and my past post can bare me witness. A staunch and dedicated believer of the gospel of His Excellence, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR)

Abi gospel of zombieesm chapter 30k verse trying to make up mumuish post count for Whatsapp group.

CoronaVirusPro:


It’s not hate but demanded and required action.

Examples need to be made.

“In the quest to fish-out terrorist, high numbers of civilian casualties cannot be prevented, and that extends to women and children”

_ Israel defence minister.

You didn't answer the question. Why do you guys become deaf and dumb when the northerners are involved in an issue but become local barking champions against other southerners?

cassyrooy:
You lack Sovereignty, so you're not going to have political sway to push for certain things.

If we have Sovereignty, I would have suggested a full return to Ọdịnala with reforms and then massively investment in science but the predicament here means survive first before development.

My question is why Islam - probably the most retrogressive religion that has blown no human society good? The Israeli and the Japanese and even the erstwhile Chrsitan Europr and America have been positively impacted by their religions. Why did you mention Islam for Ibos, the potentiallly most technically advanced tribe in Africa?

JagabanB:

Whatever u find on Google is written by people, those people could be as guided as urseIf.
U don't wake up one day and become the smartest.
When great kingdoms from ancient times are mentioned, u won't find one that belongs to lgbos, when great cities are mentioned in Africa today, u won't find one that belongs to lgb0s.
If we put the list of iconic Nigerians in a table, lgb0s won't dominate, google didn't write it, another misguided person wrote it.
It's simple to understand.

No. What you find on Google first page isn't merely "written by people" but proven from "Authority Sources" They are not just provable but reproducible. For instqance, the fact that the top WAEC and JAMB canditates are concurrently IBOs makes it reproducible. No matter your propaganda againat the Ibos, data aggregation is both a science and an art and big data companies such as Google know how to sift the truth from the hype. It is called identification of pattern from a mass of data. If it wasn't science, your Nigerian propaganda against the Ibos would have drowned it or even replaced this fact with a lie as you're working hard to do here. The same way the presidential election was MANIPULATED.

Anyway, back to the topic, why do you think the Ibos despite being the most intelligent African tribe couldn't make enough guns to prevent the colonialist conquest of the Ibo country?

JagabanB:

Borno state had this some years ago, doesn't translate to being highly intelligent.
I have seen lgb0s who scored 280+, 290+ coming out of school with 2.2.
Intelligence doesn't start and end with WAEC, JAMB and NECO.
Yorubàs were running the show, we didn't hear ñoisè.
Show ur intelligence in the field.
I was talking with three lgb0 guys, we worked on a particular project as process engineers some years ago, these guys literally depended on my lead whereas we were colleagues, they brought up this same issue of lgb0s being very intelligent, I told them it's not true, this argument lasted for 30 mins and I asked them, if u folks are so superior when it comes to intelligence, why is your intelligence not showing here?
Are u more intelligent than me?
The all kept quiet.
What u foIks do is ñoisè, ur everyday lives don't show the level of intelligence u all claim.
That does not mean that there no intelligent lgb0s, of course they are because I have met a few, I actually had to tell one in 2019 who was a young graduate that I have never made a correction to anything u have done before, she graduated from UNN with a 2.1, but it doesn't translate to "lgb0s are highly intelligent", that's a faIIacy.

Do not digress. That's why we complain about the intelligence of many black tribes. The topic is about the Ibos high IQ and why they couldn't use it to stop the Britiah conquest of the Igbo country. If yiu have nothing to contribute on that, please exit. It's already on record that they're the smartest african tribe. Disprove Google.

South West and South South Fulani are one

cassyrooy:
I've given that a thorough thought but I don't see any Igbo Statehood without Islam, it wouldn't even work. In fact, Islam suits Igbo culture more than Christianity.

If you know the history of Arabian Peninsula, you'd see that those who occupied that region, Kuwait, Qatar, Emirati, Yemeni, Iraqi, Omani, Persians, retained their separate identity despite having one faith.

Right now, if anything religious should be a cause for rioting or war, Igbos are automatically targeted because I happen to view that one major reason why this Biafra Agitation has not grown substantially is because a strong voice for Christians exists, we're the Papal Wedge against Islam in the gulf of Guinea, and its terribly affecting us.

Islam is not a tool of underdevelopment, rather a survival guide for those who know how to use it.

We need our King back, as soon as possible, we need to do away with individualised hunting for wealth and reorganise our polity.

What many failed to understand is that life starts and ends with poverty.

Igbos should definitely not be afraid of potential poverty in the near term but look ahead. Their heaven-mindedness is a pollution to our space, and the Hendonistic ways is choking.

Islam really? Why didn't you suggest Shintoism, the Japanese religion or Judaism, the Israeli religion? At least those are technologically advanced countries unlike Islamic countries known for their awkward ways. Why Islam which neurologists have proven has an adverse effect on the brain? Maybe it's another colonial attack against the Ibo since we can't link technological advancement to Islam?

kettykin:


What I have realized is that Nigeria appears to be the main choke hold of igbos, it appears that is the only achievement of Nigeria, to hold down the igbo race and another black race trying to break free.

This is insightful. Let me paraphrase: Nigeria's most important accomplishment in its 109 years of existence obviously is keeping down the Ibo nation for the West (Europe and America). Have you noticed the unity among Nigerian when the adversary seems to be Ibo? Even on Nairaland, you'll see everyone having an opinion if the topic vilifies the Ibo. I mean from Maiduguri to Brass, Kebbi to Epe, there seems to be a consensus that Nigeria is making progress as long as the Ibos remain a part of the country albeit a peripheral part.

The divide and rule inculcated in the system by the British sure had as its agenda to keep this black race down among less progressive tribes within this contraption. I can go further to hypotize that this same principle was behind the 2023 election heist. If you think it's all about bribe money, you've got another think coming.

Cosbyrich:
lol
You are not even half as intelligent as the Yorubas.
Does this blog you posted eraze the facts and the dumbness of Igbos?
Fake thing like this cannot delete facts.

Is it Yoruba that had 2 Empires...Oyo and Benin Empires since 1300 CE..

Is it Yoruba that brought the first tv,radio,newspaper,skyscraper,tarred roads etc to Nigeria..

Is it Yoruba that have 3 times the number of Professors that Igbos have..

Is it Yoruba that have businesses spanning more than 100 years while Igbos cannot boast of any business that is even up to 35 years..

Is it Yoruba that have multibillion dollars businesses abroad while Igbos have none..

Is it Yoruba that have more than 6 youngest PhD holders in the world when Igbos have none..

Is it Yoruba that Europeans and USA are rushing to put in their trading institutions and national govt..

Is it Yoruba that wrote the first Igbo primer to teach Igbos how to read and write..

Is it Yoruba that led Igbos to victory during the civil war..

Is it Yoruba that have the wealthiest self made black people in the world...

that you are comparing with Igbos that were colonised by small Igala tribe,taken as slaves by small Ijaw tribe.
Igbos that didn't know how to wear clothes until 1921?
Are you for real?

Your people are so dumb that Yorubas are still exploiting their dumbness in Lagos and they don't know.

This is why we complain about the intelligence of the average black man. The topic is about the Ibo and similitude to the Japanese. Nothing should bring in Yoruba dick measurements here. You'll understand the pathetically flawed mindset of most African tribes if you use foreign forums. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion, keep off.

babasolution:
It was the Zulus that gave the British real fight in Africa not the igbos,the Zulus killed not less than a thousand troops of the British in one day.

The igbos are no were,it was the anioma who are mixed blood with igala and Edo that gave the British tough fight not the core igbos,the Anglo aro war was an easy win for the British, the easiest fight n victory they had in African.
The ijaws of brass did better

This post is not about fighting the British but why the Ibos didn't utilize their high intelligence and tech savviness to arm themselves against the colonialist since they were the best black Africans with the high IQ to have been able to do that and not be colonized like the rest of we blacks. Imagine having an advanced Ibo country that was not colonized by the British being a pathfinder for the rest of African tribes. Someone even wrote a book "In Biafra, Africa Died" Imagine what could have been without a colonized Igbo country.

SuperOnyi:






You sound quite knowledgeable, I almost assumed you wouldn't back up your statements due to your moniker — sorry about that.

Anyway, I'm honestly curious to know why the Igbos never formed one single identity strong enough to become politically and ideologically strong.

Because till date, different Igbo groups can tell you which place in Igboland they originated from and the Igbo group they're closely related to. These Igbo groups were closer to each other but never found a strong political alliance.

This is a difficult question that Igbo historians should seek to explain. I wonder the function of the many History departments in the universities. Nevertheless, it is obvious that the Ibo society was designed to be small and independent with affiliation to one or more hamlets in the locality. It could also be that being forest dwellers gave the hamlets the natural defenses they needed against widespread assaults. The loose confederacy of the Ibo clans obviously made things easy for the colonialists. We also need to factor in the fact that unlike the Incas, the Ibos never built wide roads and had no fast means of communication. Being jungle dwellers, poor means of communication and little-inter clan relationships no doubt meant that the Ibos were never able to fight as a unit. That is why the Aro has to fight the British without help from other Igbo clans. No doubt, the Ibo were neither like the Incas nor even like the Greeks that unite during wars despite operating city states. Nevertheless, it is my belief that if large Ibo clans like the the Aboh, Ukwa and Opobos who first encountered the Europeans around the Niger and Atlantic had more contact with the interior, things may have turned out differently for the Igbo country. But the fact remained that it was a self-sustaining, self-sufficient country that existed mainly at a subsistence level. Nevertheless, what I believe is that the Ibos had the technological expertise to build enough guns to withstand the British but were not organized enough to do it due to extenuating circumstanced. Perhaps the Sahara is to black Africa what the settlement pattern and tropical forest is to Ibo country. Why the Ibo country never united as one? We may never know for sure.

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The ibo I know are fake products sellers.

After WW2. This was what the Europeans and Americans said about Japan. They termed them makers of inferior and fake products. As late as 1980's, the Americans were labelling Chinese products as inferior. Less than two decades later, the US military started awarding contracts to China. Today, Americans and Canadians are the biggest markets for Japanese automobiles. So it's not what you think, but what a people are capable of accomplishing that matters. What matters is that the Ibos know their worth and what they're capable of with or without your input.

Igbo are no brainier than in other tribes in Nigeria and Africa. They're mostly fake products sellers and drug dealers.

Unfortunately, the decades-old Nigerian propaganda against the Ibos no longer hold water. Even Google knows the truth. I suggest that you ask the Google-bot and algorithme to switch the most Intelligent tribe, the smartest tribe and the most industrious tribe in Africa to another. Maybe Zulu or Mandika would suffice. For now, and always it is IBO.

Yoruba have Sunday Igboho. They can't do nada...

onumadu:


No my friend.
The greatest "advanced weapon" the British had was OTHER BLACK (significantly less intelligent) nations willing to take orders from a handful of British officers.
Don't forget that the colonialists studied Africa for almost 400 years (from 15th century to 19th century) before actually beginning to attack and colonize them.

Granted. The British divide and conquer or divide and rule may have played a role with 400 black troops marching in from Gold Coast, but I also do not doubt that if the Royal Niger Company encountered a technologically at par Igbo country, with more guns than men, they would have thought twice before trying to conquer the country, I understand that if it is mostly blacks dying, they'd have time on their side but what I do know is that technological superiority gave them the edge. Let's look at the Biafra-Nigerian conflict for instance. It was a reenactment of colonialism, with British instructors using whips to drive the Nigerian troops back to the battlke field whenever they retreated from the Biafrans. Do you think that the British would have committed their citizens to fight and die had the Biafrans been better armed to deplete the Nigerian fighting forces? No. Even the Americans withdrew from Afghanistan just like the Russians did decades earlier. In other words, the failure of the Ibo country to arm prior to the colonialist attack was its most obvious oversight.

Broveens42:



The hype is worth it.
1.The Igbos were the first to recognize the concept of chromosome through the igbo-ukwu artifact: a system of identification through codings is the first level of civilization
2. They are the only tribe in the world recorded to have built a commercial airport through contribution of school children and families (Sam mbakwe airport)
3. The only tribe in the world with a fearless feminine gender (Aba women riot)
4. The only tribe in the world that can openly wish a white QUEEN mother an excruciating pain; an astrological explanation of superiority of Igbo tribe.
5. The only tribe that can tell a judge to tell his president that he is Mad; an astrological explanation of superiority
6. The only tribe that built up their cities without implementation of the 3R

So why couldn't the Ibos stop the British? They wouldn't be dealing with the Nigerian factor if they did.

EmiloCorn:
I like how they gave their students the highest cut off marks to scale through in jamb and National Common Entrance if not they would have pushed all the other tribes out of all the schools in this country

Very correct. I have a feeling that it was a built-in lopsidedness created by the British colonialists against the Ibos. Create a lev el playing field and other tribes would feel intimidated. Same reason the 2023 presidential election was determined NOT by MERIT.

JagabanB:
The hype around lgb0s by lgb0s are not worth it.
I am not a Yoruba but if any trîbè should bràg about intelligence and prosperity, Yorubas should take the front queue and they are not doing.
We always hear about lgb0 intelligence online, when u meet them in the field they are average at best, meet them as fellow students, at internship, at fellowship, at seminars as colleagues etc.
Just some few standing out as intelligent as it should be, so where does this high intelligence mantra stem from?
Chanting a fallacy till it becomes true doesn't make it true.
Again, most of the fàke products in the Nigerian market are made by lgb0s, Japan don't specialize in fakes, they specialize on reliable products.

You're being economical with the truth. Start by listing the recent first, the second and the third top scorers in WAEC and JAMB before we take you seriously.

chopnaira:
With all their Japanese of Africa, wasn't it this week we saw them celebrate a roundabout in Onitsha. One would think the whole SE would have been Dubai by now

True... I have the feeling that the built-in Nigerian mediocrity is affecting the Ibos. Could it be why they're the only tribe serious to exit and form their own country?

Cabalgeneral:


How many Japanese people you've seen looking for where to survive in another man's land.

The Japanese Toyota, for instance is one of the most popular automobiles in North America. That's 10,000 miles from Japan. I'm sure you own one or two Japanese products in your home. That's how races with high IQ prosper.