₦airaland Forum

cassyrooy:
You lack Sovereignty, so you're not going to have political sway to push for certain things.

If we have Sovereignty, I would have suggested a full return to Ọdịnala with reforms and then massively investment in science but the predicament here means survive first before development.

My question is why Islam - probably the most retrogressive religion that has blown no human society good? The Israeli and the Japanese and even the erstwhile Chrsitan Europr and America have been positively impacted by their religions. Why did you mention Islam for Ibos, the potentiallly most technically advanced tribe in Africa?

JagabanB:
Whatever u find on Google is written by people, those people could be as guided as urseIf.
U don't wake up one day and become the smartest.
When great kingdoms from ancient times are mentioned, u won't find one that belongs to lgbos, when great cities are mentioned in Africa today, u won't find one that belongs to lgb0s.
If we put the list of iconic Nigerians in a table, lgb0s won't dominate, google didn't write it, another misguided person wrote it.
It's simple to understand.

No. What you find on Google first page isn't merely "written by people" but proven from "Authority Sources" They are not just provable but reproducible. For instqance, the fact that the top WAEC and JAMB canditates are concurrently IBOs makes it reproducible. No matter your propaganda againat the Ibos, data aggregation is both a science and an art and big data companies such as Google know how to sift the truth from the hype. It is called identification of pattern from a mass of data. If it wasn't science, your Nigerian propaganda against the Ibos would have drowned it or even replaced this fact with a lie as you're working hard to do here. The same way the presidential election was MANIPULATED.

Anyway, back to the topic, why do you think the Ibos despite being the most intelligent African tribe couldn't make enough guns to prevent the colonialist conquest of the Ibo country?

JagabanB:
Borno state had this some years ago, doesn't translate to being highly intelligent.
I have seen lgb0s who scored 280+, 290+ coming out of school with 2.2.
Intelligence doesn't start and end with WAEC, JAMB and NECO.
Yorubàs were running the show, we didn't hear ñoisè.
Show ur intelligence in the field.
I was talking with three lgb0 guys, we worked on a particular project as process engineers some years ago, these guys literally depended on my lead whereas we were colleagues, they brought up this same issue of lgb0s being very intelligent, I told them it's not true, this argument lasted for 30 mins and I asked them, if u folks are so superior when it comes to intelligence, why is your intelligence not showing here?
Are u more intelligent than me?
The all kept quiet.
What u foIks do is ñoisè, ur everyday lives don't show the level of intelligence u all claim.
That does not mean that there no intelligent lgb0s, of course they are because I have met a few, I actually had to tell one in 2019 who was a young graduate that I have never made a correction to anything u have done before, she graduated from UNN with a 2.1, but it doesn't translate to "lgb0s are highly intelligent", that's a faIIacy.

Do not digress. That's why we complain about the intelligence of many black tribes. The topic is about the Ibos high IQ and why they couldn't use it to stop the Britiah conquest of the Igbo country. If yiu have nothing to contribute on that, please exit. It's already on record that they're the smartest african tribe. Disprove Google.

South West and South South Fulani are one

cassyrooy:
I've given that a thorough thought but I don't see any Igbo Statehood without Islam, it wouldn't even work. In fact, Islam suits Igbo culture more than Christianity.

If you know the history of Arabian Peninsula, you'd see that those who occupied that region, Kuwait, Qatar, Emirati, Yemeni, Iraqi, Omani, Persians, retained their separate identity despite having one faith.

Right now, if anything religious should be a cause for rioting or war, Igbos are automatically targeted because I happen to view that one major reason why this Biafra Agitation has not grown substantially is because a strong voice for Christians exists, we're the Papal Wedge against Islam in the gulf of Guinea, and its terribly affecting us.

Islam is not a tool of underdevelopment, rather a survival guide for those who know how to use it.

We need our King back, as soon as possible, we need to do away with individualised hunting for wealth and reorganise our polity.

What many failed to understand is that life starts and ends with poverty.

Igbos should definitely not be afraid of potential poverty in the near term but look ahead. Their heaven-mindedness is a pollution to our space, and the Hendonistic ways is choking.

Islam really? Why didn't you suggest Shintoism, the Japanese religion or Judaism, the Israeli religion? At least those are technologically advanced countries unlike Islamic countries known for their awkward ways. Why Islam which neurologists have proven has an adverse effect on the brain? Maybe it's another colonial attack against the Ibo since we can't link technological advancement to Islam?

kettykin:
What I have realized is that Nigeria appears to be the main choke hold of igbos, it appears that is the only achievement of Nigeria, to hold down the igbo race and another black race trying to break free.

This is insightful. Let me paraphrase: Nigeria's most important accomplishment in its 109 years of existence obviously is keeping down the Ibo nation for the West (Europe and America). Have you noticed the unity among Nigerian when the adversary seems to be Ibo? Even on Nairaland, you'll see everyone having an opinion if the topic vilifies the Ibo. I mean from Maiduguri to Brass, Kebbi to Epe, there seems to be a consensus that Nigeria is making progress as long as the Ibos remain a part of the country albeit a peripheral part.

The divide and rule inculcated in the system by the British sure had as its agenda to keep this black race down among less progressive tribes within this contraption. I can go further to hypotize that this same principle was behind the 2023 election heist. If you think it's all about bribe money, you've got another think coming.

Cosbyrich:
lol
You are not even half as intelligent as the Yorubas.
Does this blog you posted eraze the facts and the dumbness of Igbos?
Fake thing like this cannot delete facts.

Is it Yoruba that had 2 Empires...Oyo and Benin Empires since 1300 CE..

Is it Yoruba that brought the first tv,radio,newspaper,skyscraper,tarred roads etc to Nigeria..

Is it Yoruba that have 3 times the number of Professors that Igbos have..

Is it Yoruba that have businesses spanning more than 100 years while Igbos cannot boast of any business that is even up to 35 years..

Is it Yoruba that have multibillion dollars businesses abroad while Igbos have none..

Is it Yoruba that have more than 6 youngest PhD holders in the world when Igbos have none..

Is it Yoruba that Europeans and USA are rushing to put in their trading institutions and national govt..

Is it Yoruba that wrote the first Igbo primer to teach Igbos how to read and write..

Is it Yoruba that led Igbos to victory during the civil war..

Is it Yoruba that have the wealthiest self made black people in the world...

that you are comparing with Igbos that were colonised by small Igala tribe,taken as slaves by small Ijaw tribe.
Igbos that didn't know how to wear clothes until 1921?
Are you for real?

Your people are so dumb that Yorubas are still exploiting their dumbness in Lagos and they don't know.

This is why we complain about the intelligence of the average black man. The topic is about the Ibo and similitude to the Japanese. Nothing should bring in Yoruba dick measurements here. You'll understand the pathetically flawed mindset of most African tribes if you use foreign forums. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion, keep off.

babasolution:
It was the Zulus that gave the British real fight in Africa not the igbos,the Zulus killed not less than a thousand troops of the British in one day.

The igbos are no were,it was the anioma who are mixed blood with igala and Edo that gave the British tough fight not the core igbos,the Anglo aro war was an easy win for the British, the easiest fight n victory they had in African.
The ijaws of brass did better

This post is not about fighting the British but why the Ibos didn't utilize their high intelligence and tech savviness to arm themselves against the colonialist since they were the best black Africans with the high IQ to have been able to do that and not be colonized like the rest of we blacks. Imagine having an advanced Ibo country that was not colonized by the British being a pathfinder for the rest of African tribes. Someone even wrote a book "In Biafra, Africa Died" Imagine what could have been without a colonized Igbo country.

SuperOnyi:



You sound quite knowledgeable, I almost assumed you wouldn't back up your statements due to your moniker — sorry about that.

Anyway, I'm honestly curious to know why the Igbos never formed one single identity strong enough to become politically and ideologically strong.

Because till date, different Igbo groups can tell you which place in Igboland they originated from and the Igbo group they're closely related to. These Igbo groups were closer to each other but never found a strong political alliance.

This is a difficult question that Igbo historians should seek to explain. I wonder the function of the many History departments in the universities. Nevertheless, it is obvious that the Ibo society was designed to be small and independent with affiliation to one or more hamlets in the locality. It could also be that being forest dwellers gave the hamlets the natural defenses they needed against widespread assaults. The loose confederacy of the Ibo clans obviously made things easy for the colonialists. We also need to factor in the fact that unlike the Incas, the Ibos never built wide roads and had no fast means of communication. Being jungle dwellers, poor means of communication and little-inter clan relationships no doubt meant that the Ibos were never able to fight as a unit. That is why the Aro has to fight the British without help from other Igbo clans. No doubt, the Ibo were neither like the Incas nor even like the Greeks that unite during wars despite operating city states. Nevertheless, it is my belief that if large Ibo clans like the the Aboh, Ukwa and Opobos who first encountered the Europeans around the Niger and Atlantic had more contact with the interior, things may have turned out differently for the Igbo country. But the fact remained that it was a self-sustaining, self-sufficient country that existed mainly at a subsistence level. Nevertheless, what I believe is that the Ibos had the technological expertise to build enough guns to withstand the British but were not organized enough to do it due to extenuating circumstanced. Perhaps the Sahara is to black Africa what the settlement pattern and tropical forest is to Ibo country. Why the Ibo country never united as one? We may never know for sure.

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The ibo I know are fake products sellers.

After WW2. This was what the Europeans and Americans said about Japan. They termed them makers of inferior and fake products. As late as 1980's, the Americans were labelling Chinese products as inferior. Less than two decades later, the US military started awarding contracts to China. Today, Americans and Canadians are the biggest markets for Japanese automobiles. So it's not what you think, but what a people are capable of accomplishing that matters. What matters is that the Ibos know their worth and what they're capable of with or without your input.

Igbo are no brainier than in other tribes in Nigeria and Africa. They're mostly fake products sellers and drug dealers.

Unfortunately, the decades-old Nigerian propaganda against the Ibos no longer hold water. Even Google knows the truth. I suggest that you ask the Google-bot and algorithme to switch the most Intelligent tribe, the smartest tribe and the most industrious tribe in Africa to another. Maybe Zulu or Mandika would suffice. For now, and always it is IBO.

Yoruba have Sunday Igboho. They can't do nada...

onumadu:
No my friend.
The greatest "advanced weapon" the British had was OTHER BLACK (significantly less intelligent) nations willing to take orders from a handful of British officers.
Don't forget that the colonialists studied Africa for almost 400 years (from 15th century to 19th century) before actually beginning to attack and colonize them.

Granted. The British divide and conquer or divide and rule may have played a role with 400 black troops marching in from Gold Coast, but I also do not doubt that if the Royal Niger Company encountered a technologically at par Igbo country, with more guns than men, they would have thought twice before trying to conquer the country, I understand that if it is mostly blacks dying, they'd have time on their side but what I do know is that technological superiority gave them the edge. Let's look at the Biafra-Nigerian conflict for instance. It was a reenactment of colonialism, with British instructors using whips to drive the Nigerian troops back to the battlke field whenever they retreated from the Biafrans. Do you think that the British would have committed their citizens to fight and die had the Biafrans been better armed to deplete the Nigerian fighting forces? No. Even the Americans withdrew from Afghanistan just like the Russians did decades earlier. In other words, the failure of the Ibo country to arm prior to the colonialist attack was its most obvious oversight.

Broveens42:
The hype is worth it.
1.The Igbos were the first to recognize the concept of chromosome through the igbo-ukwu artifact: a system of identification through codings is the first level of civilization
2. They are the only tribe in the world recorded to have built a commercial airport through contribution of school children and families (Sam mbakwe airport)
3. The only tribe in the world with a fearless feminine gender (Aba women riot)
4. The only tribe in the world that can openly wish a white QUEEN mother an excruciating pain; an astrological explanation of superiority of Igbo tribe.
5. The only tribe that can tell a judge to tell his president that he is Mad; an astrological explanation of superiority
6. The only tribe that built up their cities without implementation of the 3R

So why couldn't the Ibos stop the British? They wouldn't be dealing with the Nigerian factor if they did.

EmiloCorn:
I like how they gave their students the highest cut off marks to scale through in jamb and National Common Entrance if not they would have pushed all the other tribes out of all the schools in this country

Very correct. I have a feeling that it was a built-in lopsidedness created by the British colonialists against the Ibos. Create a lev el playing field and other tribes would feel intimidated. Same reason the 2023 presidential election was determined NOT by MERIT.

JagabanB:
The hype around lgb0s by lgb0s are not worth it.
I am not a Yoruba but if any trîbè should bràg about intelligence and prosperity, Yorubas should take the front queue and they are not doing.
We always hear about lgb0 intelligence online, when u meet them in the field they are average at best, meet them as fellow students, at internship, at fellowship, at seminars as colleagues etc.
Just some few standing out as intelligent as it should be, so where does this high intelligence mantra stem from?
Chanting a fallacy till it becomes true doesn't make it true.
Again, most of the fàke products in the Nigerian market are made by lgb0s, Japan don't specialize in fakes, they specialize on reliable products.

You're being economical with the truth. Start by listing the recent first, the second and the third top scorers in WAEC and JAMB before we take you seriously.

chopnaira:
With all their Japanese of Africa, wasn't it this week we saw them celebrate a roundabout in Onitsha. One would think the whole SE would have been Dubai by now

True... I have the feeling that the built-in Nigerian mediocrity is affecting the Ibos. Could it be why they're the only tribe serious to exit and form their own country?

Cabalgeneral:
How many Japanese people you've seen looking for where to survive in another man's land.

The Japanese Toyota, for instance is one of the most popular automobiles in North America. That's 10,000 miles from Japan. I'm sure you own one or two Japanese products in your home. That's how races with high IQ prosper.

kettykin:
Igbos that pioneeered mobile refinery,mobile transmitter, javelin bombs , retrofitted planes, etc

Igbos fought the British twice , during the Anglo-Aro war which resulted in many casualties among the British and also during Ekumeku war , were the employed guerrilla tactics and agile attacks against the British.

If Japan was a geopolitical zone in Nigeria, they would have been attacked by the british and other Nigerians

Mobile refinery and retrofitted planes yes. Mobile transmitter and Javelin bombs no. The former could be linked to the British and the latter, the Germans. If the Ibos had enough guns, if they were well armed via indegenous technology, the British wouldn't have the motivation to fight them as they had no motivation to fight Japan. In fact, the Igbo country was a dense tropical forest where everything would have worked against the invaders. The British had only one confidence - advanced weaponry.

I read about the former US Secretary of State, Henry Kessinger describing the Ibos as the Jews of Africa due to their higher intelligence than most black tribes. I also read about European countries telling Biafran delegations that they prefer supporting Nigeria during the Nigerian-Biafran war simply because "another Japan in Africa would not favour Europe." Despite the high intelligence and industry of the Ibos, I do not subscribe to the notion that Ibos are or would have become the Japan of Africa despite accomplishing technological feats that Nigeria cannot accomplish today during the short-lived Biafra. Here are my reasons:

1) Japan was never colonized by the European but Ibos were. The simple reason why no European country was bold enough to fight to conquer Japan is that the Japanese saw ahead of the Ibos. By late 16th Century, a Japanese Shogungate bought a few guns from the Portuguese. By 1700s, Japan had more guns than most European countries because they simply learned how to make guns and made more guns than the Europeans who initially sold guns to them.

2) By 1600s, less than 200 years after the Japanese met the Europeans, Ibos also had guns they probably bought from the Europeans, but 200 years later, unlike the Japanese, the Ibos had not made enough guns to deter European colonialists. In fact, around this period, the Japanese completely closed their country to the Europens and would only trade for guns. This was a time the Ibo country was being exploited even for manpower - slaves, by the Europeans. I remember reading about the Portuguese ambassador to Japan telling the king of Portugal (while describing Japan and their insistence on trading only for guns) that "This is not Africa." This points to the fact that Africans are significantly of lower intelligence than the Japanese, and Ibos are not excluded.

3) As probably the most intelligent tribe in Africa, I believe that the Ibos were best positioned to stop the colonialist (British, French and Germans) if they had foresight like the Japanese and insisted on trading for guns and using their local technology to mass produce it just as they did during the war with Nigeria, unfortunately they could not and had to fight the British for nearly 30 years as underdogs. Granted, they were probably the only tribe that had the pride to fight in present-day Nigeria, but fighting and losing isn't enough. They could have done more through deterrrence were they actually like the Japanese.

4) In essence, there is no taking from the Ibos their high intelligence par African level, but it is mere wishful thinking to claim that Ibos or Biafra would have become the Japan of Africa. Maybe they'd have become close to Singapore, but not exactly like Japan. If Ibos are like Japan, they shouldn't have been colonized and African blacks would have had respect among other races for producing one of the two nations that were never colonized in Africa.

Are Ibos like the Japanese? Maybe. Are they the Japan of Africa? No.

CrossRhodes:
But bokoharam shot down a helicopter carrying a major, officers and other soldiers in Niger state......we didn't see this kind of press release oo

Such PRs are meant foir the southern part of the country. The mumu regions that align with the north to marginalize other southerners/

They're slowing bring Igbo into the CBN because they know that with their tribally consituted money managers the dollar would kiss $15k by December.

talk2hb1:
Shebi you are cannibalizing each other for that yeast, why should we come.

Ebin Pawa is very real

Please...O I'm begging. We are still struggling with Ebin Pawa in Nigeria. We don't want fights abeg.

a4cube:
Why are people of SW angry about this post? The poster did not mention any name yet you guys are attacking him. Guilty conscience of hunger dominated region I guess.

The thing shock me sef. It means the Ebin Pawa is holding them on stranglehold but they're enduring it because "na my tribesman"
It's confirmed.

Tochitee:
its really bad for obi and the whole of the 5 ipobs region. so you people cant really take lost?? the next thing is to lose your senses. since you people are really like this,every election period,we will always encourage you to contest,then we will always make you to labour in vain! since the election,it has been one cry or the other from the ibos. the southeast is the only region where mothers sell their children because of rice.week in week out we kept on reading it. yet you see ibo people opening lies to spite yoruba tribe that is 1000 years ahead of you. name is forbe list,music,tech, they dominate the ibos in everything. my guy whom god has blessed no iyamirin can destroy. its very easy for the yorubas to always snatched anything we need from the ibos,cos we see you as small entities.

Make I ask Google. Google talk say you lie o..say Igbo no be local but continental champions ooo...

Ola9ja23:
I know you people will cry for 8 years bcs you wasted your vote on a loser 🤣😁😂😂

See how you have turned to a wailer now 😁😂😁

Just because I told the truth in a true-life story to show that not only Ebin Pawa Region is affected by Ebin Pawa? The neighbor in question may not even from Ebin Pawa Region. There's no place in the story that suggests that Ebin Pawa affects inly the Ebin Pawa Region of the country. It is a national, if not a regional calamity.

-EbinPawaGovt

Ola9ja23:
I know you people will cry for 8 years bcs you wasted your vote on a loser 🤣😁😂😂

See how you have turned to a wailer now 😁😂😁

Just because I told the truth in a true-life story to show that not only Ebin Pawa Region is affected by Ebin Pawa? The neighbor in question may not even from Ebin Pawa Region. There's no place in the story that suggests that Ebin Pawa affects inly the Ebin Pawa Region of the country.

chopnaira:
You live in the ghetto for your neighbors to be selling their dogs for dog meat purposes.

O yeah, I live in the ghetto. So what? I'm sure your 30k zombie work pays rent for an estate.

kunle4toyeyaho:
Does Zoning arrangement supercede Nigeria's constitution?Nigerian constitution does not recognise zonin.Shaibu has the constitutional right to vie for office of the Governor.He has not done anything wrong by aspiring to be Governor.

True. It also shows that he lacks a sense of fairness. Someone like that can never be a good leader. We all saw how Tinubu shunted the SE. Has he proved to be a good leader?

No problem. We'll know there is problem if they start kidnapping politicians. For now, their targets are still ebin [pawa o people

Khallicopyro:
Now you can see why Mr. Obaseki seem to detest him

Yeah, though he seemed decent when he supported Obaseki against Osho. Maybe he was acting Tinubu for Buhari because of his ambition to grab power. Let's hope he doesn;t grab and run with it like Tinubu. That'll be double Tinubulation for Edo people