The major issue at stake now is that the supreme court has a deadline of 5th of October for submission of new evidence, labour union is threatening strike on the 3rd! What do you think is the correlation? Don't you think the labour union is compromised?. Just mark my word our Okpolo eyed drug trafficker and certificate forger will make no attempt to stop the strike so court will not sit on the 5th! Fingers crossed.

Abrahamweb:

That guy is right o boss.
The US government is involved in this matter and if it's true that they are blackmailing Tinubu, technicalities can still come in.
Let's just pray now.

What do you mean 'blackmailing' that word has never come up and doesn't apply here.

Supposing this records happens to be incriminating, and Atiku has till 5th Otober to file it in under normal circumstances and he succeeds with filling it in. On what technical grounds will the judges throw it out. PRE ELECTION MATTERS

rayvelez:
Make we no jubilate yet

Why do you think so?, Did you see where the judge said, unnecessary appeals which of course she understands as delay tactics will not be tolerated? Let those files come in tomorrow. The underlying truth is, there's something not right in that certificate. Let the school tell us why they can depose under oath that he graduated, but can't vouch for the certificate he is parading under same oath!! Fingers crossed.

Sunday, October 1, 2023

Senior U.S. judge denies Bola Tinubu’s emergency appeal, orders CSU to turn over records to Atiku, testify under oath Monday afternoon.

The ruling marks a major blow to Mr Tinubu and a progress for Mr Abubakar, who has been seeking the records to establish that the Nigerian president tnedered forged certificate.


President Bola Tinubu has lost his emergency application to block Chicago State University from releasing his academic records to Atiku Abubakar.

Judge Nancy Maldonado of the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois in Chicago said the decision of a lower federal magistrate judge on September 19 was appropriate and adopted it in full.

“The Court overrules President Tinubu’s objections to Magistrate Judge Gilbert’s recommended ruling, and therefore adopts the ruling in full. Mr Abubakar’s application is therefore granted,” the judge ruled. ‘In light of the pending Supreme Court of Nigeria deadline, represented to the court as October 5, 2023, and based on CSU’s representations that it is ready to comply with the discovery requests and produce a witness, the court sets an expedited schedule for completion of discovery.”

Ms Maldonado, a district judge, also said the CSU should turn over the records to Mr Abubakar by 12:00 p.m. Monday and also make its officials available for deposition to authenticate the documents by 5:00 p.m. on the same day.

The judge said any attempt by Mr Tinubu to appeal the judgement in the district would no longer be tolerated as Mr Abubakar must transfer the collected evidence to the Nigerian Supreme Court for use in an ongoing election petition case by October 5.

“CSU is directed to produce all relevant and non-privileged documents in response to Requests for Production Nos. 1 through 4 (as narrowed by Judge Gilbert and adopted here) in Mr. Abubakar’s subpoena, by 12:00 p.m. (noon) CDT, on Monday, October 2, 2023,” she added. “The Rule 30(b)(6) deposition of CSU’s corporate designee must be completed by 5:00 p.m. CDT on Tuesday, October 3, 2023. Given the October 5, 2023, filing deadline before the Supreme Court of Nigeria, the Court will not extend or modify these deadlines.”

The judge, however, said Mr Tinubu is free to file his appeal directly before the Seventh Circuit, which is the main appellate court overseeing Illinois and nearby states, an attempt that would likely prove daunting given the tight window for compliance by CSU.

The ruling marks a major blow to Mr Tinubu and a huge victory for Mr Abubakar, who has been seeking the records to establish that Mr Tinubu presented a forged certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission when he submitted his application to run for president in June 2022.

Section 137 (1)(j) of the Nigerian Constitution (amended in 2010) specifically stated that no one would be legitimately elected president of Nigeria if the person “has presented a forged certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission.”

Prior to the ruling late Saturday night, Judge Maldonado had acknowledged the significant public interest dimension of the case, saying it would cause her to expedite justice for all parties.

The president did not deny the charges that the certificate was forged, especially as it was purportedly signed by administrators who were not even at the school when he graduated in 1979, but only insisted, alongside the school, that he attended and graduated.

He also said releasing the documents with deposition would cause him severe harm because they were private to him and would not be admissible in the ongoing petition against him in Nigeria, an argument that further fueled nationwide concern about what the president might have been hiding about himself from Nigerians.

The CSU said it would state under oath that Mr Tinubu attended, but it won’t be able to certify the authenticity of the certificate he paraded in Nigeria under oath.

Mr Abubakar’s lawyers would now be able to test the school’s claims, alongside Mr Tinubu’s, during tomorrow’s records release.

Courtesy: People's Gazette.

What the heck is INEC? A useless long forgotten criminal enterprise, who takes these serial thieves and con men serious in this country any more?

HRHQueenPhil:
Fit of anger is an opening for the devil to cause mayhem
I pray his soul rest in peace and madam is granted liniency

Evil soul you are, so she shouldn't get punishment commensurate to the crime? Cold blooded murder and you advocating for leniency?

patorial:


This isn't true, please.

Don't forget that Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia were already civilized before the rise of the Roman empire.

Ok that being case, supposing we narrow this thing down to maybe....East, West and Central Africa, perhaps this distance barrier I spoke about could apply. Notably the countries in your list are North African countries which to a large extent was actively involved in intercontinental trade during the reing of the Roman empire, most of North African countries featured in the BIBLE .....Ethiopia, Libya, Egypt and maybe Even Sudan. These countries already had access and relationship with the Middle East, Asia etc.

Well our son is the minister for works althoug in an illegitimate gorvernment, trust he will sort and fix most death traps of federal roads in the East Before the Real President takes over. If he extends olive branch to retain Umahi in his present portfolio who am I to dispute, ozuoh!

THEPACIFIST:
The best thread I have come across this year, I feel enlightened, more wisdom to every contributor on this thread. I wish more of thread like this would gain prominence here.

I couldn't agree more.
this is refreshing and dignifying. I am happy to be present here this evening. Trillion thanks to the OP and of course more power to his elbow. This singular post has helped me validate quite a number of things through further deep research! Makes more sense to me now.

djon78:



And Jesus Christ was born during the reign of Augustus Cesar.
When the emperor gave directive for the census of the entire Roman world

Joseph took Mary his wife to his hometown in Bethlehem to be counted in census where she gave birth to our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏

You can imagine how organized Rome was over 2000years ago to have conducted census then

What were Africans doing then?


Honestly I Love History!!

Honestly I have no inkling too, but in my own opinion I would say.... it could be distance barrier? Probably lack of direct trade route to Rome, Egypt, Syria, Jerusalem and the Arabia that caused such primitive and backward living in Africa during the period, cos counties withing proximity to the above mentioned nations seemed to adapt and develope much faster having been earlier exposed to various religions and forms of organised gorvernment through trade relationships.

djon78:



Actually it was emperor Constantine after his conversion to Christianity
Turned Rome from pagan to Christianity
And founded the Catholic Church

The Catholic Church was already established 600 years before the coming of prophet Muhammad

The Catholic Church held sway for over 1500 years before the advent of Martin Luther, the creating of the church of England, then Methodist Church

Then the migration of pilgrims to the New world America when they were fleeing from persecution from the king's of Europe

The pilgrims founded America on foundation of Liberty, and freedom for every Man

The Americans fought war with the British and gained Independence
Setting up the powerful US Constitution built on Liberty


The Europeans then began to go around discovering other parts of the world aided by industrial revolution they built the steam engine that enabled ships travel thousands of miles to other continents especially championed by the Portuguese and the British

The Portuguese were the first to discover Africa while the British discovered Australia, New Zealand.

The Europeans started coming to Africa and the transatlantic slave trade started for over 150 years
Africans were sold into slavery to the New world, America, Caribbeans

Then the British abolished slave trade and started Trading on raw materials like palm oil etc

With time they formed trading posts in Africa example is the Royal Niger company that First came as traders but later colonised Africa by Force after Africa was shared amongst the Europeans in late 18th century

That's when Nigeria was formed and various African tribes were organized into Nations


This has been the bane of Africa as a continent
And the reality is that Africa may never Develop like other parts of the world
Because the Europeans that gave us form and being are the ones still in control of our world

We Africans are no match for them in Development and advancement

Apt, deep and educating, most detailed and advanced thing I have come across on the internet this year. Much repect to you Sir.

You made me research on the Roman Senator and historian named Publius Aticus and such like names as Flavius Josephus, Julius Ceaser, Augustus Ceaser who was the Roman Emperor when JESUS was born. To me, History is the best thing after Science.

Ajuri Nglielie well done, not sure this young man is ready for this task.

seunmsg:


And it’s in your place to tell me what to post or not?

Man is just two days today we will all see what the documents contain and see the schools management position on them under deposition, that solves the whole problem. Your prempting us is imaterial here, I know you are doing the job you are paid to do, albeit let us have us have some quite while we wait for the documents.

seunmsg:
So funny reading the opinion of folks who don’t even understand the implication of what they’ve read. So, how exactly will CSU releasing Tinubu’s academic records change anything? The said academic records have already been released to different persons before the judgement and its in public domain already. It was released to Enahoro-Ebah who testified at the PEPC on behalf of same Atiku. It was released to Tinubu himself and presenter to PEPC by his lawyers. So, what new academic record is Atiku looking for?

You are crying over a spilled milk. Let's patiently wait for the documents, it's not in your position to tell us what it will contain. What's wrong with you?

garfield1:


Like I predicted,the court only ordered a narrow release of just a few documents and not what atiku wanted...see it below

III.
DOCUMENT REQUESTS
Request No. 1.

A true and correct copy of any diploma for a Bachelor of Science degree issued by CSU in
1979.
Request No. 2.
A true and correct copy of any diploma issued by CSU in 1979 to Mr. Tinubu.
Request No. 3.
True and correct copies of any diplomas issued by CSU (other than to Mr. Tinubu) that
contain the same font, seal, signatures, and wording (other than the name of the recipient and the
specific degree awarded) as contained in Exhibit C to the First Liu Declaration, which purports to
be a CSU diploma issued to Mr. Tinubu on or about June 22, 1979.
Request No. 4.
True and correct copies of any CSU documents relating to Mr. Tinubu that were certified
by Jamar C. Orr, Esq., including, without limitation, the documents in Exhibit D to the Uwais

Get your facts right pls.
Read the full document by the court, the applicant later narrowed the subpoena request for want of time, and even at that the narrowed subpoena STILL CONTAINS major information regarding Tinubu. So the narrowed request is what the court have granted, and it will contain everything that Atiku wants to know.

This man is long over due for a political post, he has made enough noise to be noticed haba

musicwriter:


It's not difficult to know.
Just research it HISTORICALLY. Fact-check everything HISTORICALLY and if you do with an open mind, you'll see how it all came to be.

You can begin with the following books:

1. Who Wrote the New Testament?: The Making of the Christian Myth- by Burton Mack
2. How ancient scribes invented biblical characters- Gary Greenberg
3. Caesars Messiah: the Roman conspiracy to invent Jesus - by Joseph At will
4. Christianity before Christ- by John G. Jackson
5. The world's sixteen crucified saviours- by Graves
6. Jesus never existed- by Kenneth Humphreys

There are thousands of such books you could read when you're ready to know the truth.

I have seen where and how your mind got corrupted, patronizing anti-christian literature written by SATANISTS. Burn those satanic books and be free.

Most of them are formed out of greed and lust, for them is sex and money. So many evil going on inside these criminal churches.

musicwriter:


Those words were not said by a god but by the Greco-Romans who wrote them.

The real reason is to keep you in suspense, hope, and patiently waiting till you live out your live. The idea is to stop you from complaining or worrying about the late coming of Jesus in your lifetime.

Super hero, and how did you know of this?

IconicR:
Useless Emefiele that brought untold hardship to Nigerians

May he and Obi never happen to Nigeria again amen

Don't quote me I'm inside the church

I will advise you finish with church rituals and leave, then you can resume your DUTY, respect God and don't act foolishly in his house.

AntiChristian:


Anything to promote Christianity!
How do you know she's praying to Jesus?

Moreso look at the dressing, na Christian dress be that?

She don win na!

Losers ain't Christians nor do they pray like this!

You are here again with your ignorance, she is dressed as a tennis player.

BloomingDale:


Who wrote your Bible?

All scriptures are INSPIRED of GOD and beneficial, HUMANS did write the Bible with the inspiration of the holy spirit, cos come to think of it, MOSES was not there when the world was created, when the deluge happened, when patriarch Abraham was called out of regions surrounding SYRIA to CANAAN by God and all the way down to JOSEPH captivity in Egyp!!!! How did he relate things that took place centuries before him??
To you is juju abi?

Hanndye:

Of course you didn't know there is something that is called salvation by association. It was said of Mary and Jesus' disciples
'And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
Luke 11:27-28
You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
John 15:3.


So be associated with Jesus today by doing His words.
'You are my friends if you do what I command. I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you'

As for Lazarus, of course, he died again. But you can imagine the joy felt then. Suppose a loved one of your was inadvertently at the point of death, not to talk of haven died, but brought back to good health, wouldn't you be glad? That is an example of what Jesus will do in the last day to his friends, but this time to live forever. As He lives, so His discples will live.

Thank you, your approach is wonderful, me on the other hand I have a radical and assertive stands on people who blaspheme God and ridicule chritianity, I believe this is how God want's me to handle my own bussiness, firm and strong in affirming CHRIST as the LORD!

realmindz:


Do you know how much these countries make every year in billions of dollars for selling this scams to you?

What a shame

The Devil is the one scamming you here, pilgrimage is voluntary if you have resources to embark on it fine, if you don't what's the fuse? Jerusalem has been a pilgrimage town even when CHRIST was there, cos the Romans, Libyans, Egyptians, Syrians, Grecians, Jordanians etc. flock their. It didn't start today.

BloomingDale:


The white man that brought Christianity to you is enjoying their heaven right here while your hell is also right here. Good luck.

That line is now stale, white man brought christianity bulshit, they did and sharply turned away from practicing it as GOD wants, probably some of them got corrupted on getting here and blinded by greed, polisticts and lust, it doesn't negate the fact there where equally true heros that came here for the purpose of spreading the WORD. How they fare today in their land is their bussiness and of course is logical to say that SATAN will love to destroy them first being the foremost people that knew about God in our time, So I am not baffled to see what's going on with ARCH BISHOP OF CANTERBURY in ENGLAND AND POPE IN ROME. They will all answer for themselves.

rspy:


Fulani dey kill and impregnate Christians in mass, is Jesus not seeing this, or is he waiting for all his believers to be killed before he returns

In your little tiny human brain you question your maker, even the brain you're using to question him you can't develope ⅓rd of it before you grow old and die and no one will develop theirs to full capacity. So what do you think you know? What you see as SCIENCE & MYSTERY are whortless before YHWH who made them.

So who are you to question him on when he is coming.

BloomingDale:


Good luck on your choice.

How can I be an evolutionist? Do you have animal DNA in your genes? Do you know the difference between a prokaryotic and eukaryotic cell? Do you know why you have antigens on the surface of your cells?

How can I also be an idolater when I’m neither a Christian nor Muslim, the two biggest idolatrous religions in the world, the worship of stone (Islam) and the worship of wood (Xtianity)?

Can you explain genesis (the beginning of the DNA, genes) and know that that it is scientifically impossible for that creation story to apply to you?

The only sentence I pick from your response is 'Good luck on your choice' the rest are hollow!! I made that choice and I am sticking with it, the END will tell.

rspy:


NASA are quite confident of finding another Earth like planet very soon, Africa won't be allowed into that space 🚀 so we won't carry our fearful and hopeful minds outside Earth

And this new earth as you put it is product of what, evolution and or nothingness? Or does it point to a DESIGNER .......SUPREME FORCE & ENTITY?

musicwriter:


People have been waiting for more than two thousand years for Jesus to show up. But he won't since he doesn't exist.

You'll live out your live without Jesus coming, including your children and children's children.

Jesus is not coming this year or next year or in ten years or one million years or in a Billion years or Trillion years.......or FOREVER.

Wake up!!!

Laughable to say the least! Even CHRIST himself said of that hour knows no one except the FATHER, HIM being the closest to GOD......it has not been revealed to HIM!! it could be anytime man! 5000 years to come, 500, 200, today or tomorrow no one knows that DAY except the ANCIENT OF DAYS HIMSELF.

BloomingDale:


Think very carefully on these pictures. Don’t take them literally. I’m not going to explain. You must search for knowledge like you are searching for gold.

I have gone beyond succumbing to atheist views, I looked at the picture and saw nothing but ignorance and so much emptiness on your part. You either an evolutionists bulshit and or an Idolater which ever one, it doesn't in any way anuul the fact that a SUPREME FORCE created the HEAVENS & EARTH which we humans cannot explain nor explore and that FORCE sent his ETERNALLY BEGOTTEN SON here in flesh to save the world! Most stupid folks will ask me DID GOD GIVE BIRTH?.....and you would want me to answer such Deamining and STUPID QUESTION?


I am a radical, I speak about God with so much passion and authority. A lot people will come and beg you to accept CHRIST, I am different! I will put the facts to you make your own choice!