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PoliticsRe: US Judge, Nancy Maldonado, Orders CSU To Release Tinubu's Records On Monday by Ecosystem4u: 4:25pm On Oct 01, 2023
plaindealer:
It's their usual tactics, when you corner them here, they'll run to another corner and start talking about silly, pointless and irrelevant rubbish.

They are cowards.
I have gone through your comments, no where did you make mention of the fact that Tinubu is parading a diploma purportedly issued in 1979 and signed by TWO individuals who where not staffs of the institution at the TIME. So you really think CSU affidavits covers such FRAUD?
PoliticsRe: US Judge, Nancy Maldonado, Orders CSU To Release Tinubu's Records On Monday by Ecosystem4u: 4:04pm On Oct 01, 2023
Finally the mods have bowed to pressure and pushed to front page!! Three different certificates from one SCHOOL to ONE individual BOLA A. TINUBU.
TravelRe: Tanker Explosion On Warri-Benin Highway Kills 20 People by Ecosystem4u: 4:00pm On Oct 01, 2023
TheSuperX:
Tif Tinubu records are released or not it won't stop him for ruling you guys for 4 years, you guys are just pursuing a lost cause, I don't need to tell you how Nigeria works.
I assume you are a minion, the likes who will say nothing will happen is bussiness as usual, look how idiotic you sound trying to defend evil.
PoliticsRe: Full Transcript Of President Bola Ahmed Tinubu On 63rd Independence Celebration by Ecosystem4u: 3:55pm On Oct 01, 2023
Sunday, October 1, 2023


Senior U.S. judge denies Bola Tinubu’s emergency appeal, orders CSU to turn over records to Atiku, testify under oath Monday afternoon.

The ruling marks a major blow to Mr Tinubu and a progress for Mr Abubakar, who has been seeking the records to establish that the Nigerian president tnedered forged certificate.

ADEFEMOLA AKINTADE • OCTOBER 1, 2023
Atiku, Tinubu's certificate and Tinubu
Atiku, Tinubu’s certificate and Tinubu
President Bola Tinubu has lost his emergency application to block Chicago State University from releasing his academic records to Atiku Abubakar.

Judge Nancy Maldonado of the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois in Chicago said the decision of a lower federal magistrate judge on September 19 was appropriate and adopted it in full.

“The Court overrules President Tinubu’s objections to Magistrate Judge Gilbert’s recommended ruling, and therefore adopts the ruling in full. Mr Abubakar’s application is therefore granted,” the judge ruled. ‘In light of the pending Supreme Court of Nigeria deadline, represented to the court as October 5, 2023, and based on CSU’s representations that it is ready to comply with the discovery requests and produce a witness, the court sets an expedited schedule for completion of discovery.”

Ms Maldonado, a district judge, also said the CSU should turn over the records to Mr Abubakar by 12:00 p.m. Monday and also make its officials available for deposition to authenticate the documents by 5:00 p.m. on the same day.

The judge said any attempt by Mr Tinubu to appeal the judgement in the district would no longer be tolerated as Mr Abubakar must transfer the collected evidence to the Nigerian Supreme Court for use in an ongoing election petition case by October 5.

“CSU is directed to produce all relevant and non-privileged documents in response to Requests for Production Nos. 1 through 4 (as narrowed by Judge Gilbert and adopted here) in Mr. Abubakar’s subpoena, by 12:00 p.m. (noon) CDT, on Monday, October 2, 2023,” she added. “The Rule 30(b)(6) deposition of CSU’s corporate designee must be completed by 5:00 p.m. CDT on Tuesday, October 3, 2023. Given the October 5, 2023, filing deadline before the Supreme Court of Nigeria, the Court will not extend or modify these deadlines.”

The judge, however, said Mr Tinubu is free to file his appeal directly before the Seventh Circuit, which is the main appellate court overseeing Illinois and nearby states, an attempt that would likely prove daunting given the tight window for compliance by CSU.

The ruling marks a major blow to Mr Tinubu and a huge victory for Mr Abubakar, who has been seeking the records to establish that Mr Tinubu presented a forged certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission when he submitted his application to run for president in June 2022.

Section 137 (1)(j) of the Nigerian Constitution (amended in 2010) specifically stated that no one would be legitimately elected president of Nigeria if the person “has presented a forged certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission.”

Prior to the ruling late Saturday night, Judge Maldonado had acknowledged the significant public interest dimension of the case, saying it would cause her to expedite justice for all parties.

The president did not deny the charges that the certificate was forged, especially as it was purportedly signed by administrators who were not even at the school when he graduated in 1979, but only insisted, alongside the school, that he attended and graduated.

He also said releasing the documents with deposition would cause him severe harm because they were private to him and would not be admissible in the ongoing petition against him in Nigeria, an argument that further fueled nationwide concern about what the president might have been hiding about himself from Nigerians.

The CSU said it would state under oath that Mr Tinubu attended, but it won’t be able to certify the authenticity of the certificate he paraded in Nigeria under oath.

Mr Abubakar’s lawyers would now be able to test the school’s claims, alongside Mr Tinubu’s, during tomorrow’s records release and cross-examination.

Details shortly…




Courtesy: Peoples Gazette.
PoliticsRe: Full Transcript Of President Bola Ahmed Tinubu On 63rd Independence Celebration by Ecosystem4u: 3:53pm On Oct 01, 2023
By 12 noon tomorrow Atiku will be armed with Tinubu's all elusive records for final onslaught. I didn't read and will not read your piece of shit.
TravelRe: Tanker Explosion On Warri-Benin Highway Kills 20 People by Ecosystem4u: 3:51pm On Oct 01, 2023
Biased modes, Tinubu's records are to be released tomorrow in Chicago before 12noon. The threads are there in the politics section since yesterday and have not been moved to front page. Tribal lots.

On the other hand I sympathise with victims of this accident. May the souls of the departed find rest.
PoliticsRe: Again, FG Invites NLC To Another Meeting Today by Ecosystem4u: 1:07pm On Oct 01, 2023
This minion called Ajero is on self destruct, strike is good but not for this week. We need to file our evidence in court against Tinubu, deadline is 5th. The man's being used to destroy what we have long been fighting for.
PoliticsRe: Senior US Judge Denies Tinubu's Emergency Appeal, Orders Court To Release Record by Ecosystem4u(op): 12:45pm On Oct 01, 2023
stanisbaratheon:
Wow.
This your analysis is spot on
Is a calculated move by labour, but it will fail, we can't come this far and be hindered by a greedy civil servant.
PoliticsRe: Shame....nigerians It Is Finished! We Now Know Who Asiwaju: He Was Jailed Twice! by Ecosystem4u: 12:18pm On Oct 01, 2023
[quote author=Bigkoko post=126125290]From what my contact in The States Department told me, Asiwaju only chance to hide his crime & fake identity was if he had manned up & attacked Niger! But he could not, so they gat nothing to protect him for!

The decision to kick him out was decided the moment EU report was made public. But he thought he could use looted money to buy his way out! He will be thoroughly disgraced, such that nothing would be left for him.

Is a fight to the finish line, I know his illegitimate gorvernment will not survive in Nigeria beyond six months. Back home here, he is tyring to use organised labour to frustrate Atiku filling the evidence. They are threatening shut down from 3rd. Supreme court deadline is 5th October! The man's a criminal in all spheres! Fingers crossed.
PoliticsRe: Solved Mystery: Who Bola A Tinubu Is!!! Read Through. by Ecosystem4u: 12:12pm On Oct 01, 2023
@ op plz keep this thread alive.
PoliticsRe: Shame....nigerians It Is Finished! We Now Know Who Asiwaju: He Was Jailed Twice! by Ecosystem4u: 11:56am On Oct 01, 2023
Bigkoko:
It doesn't sound bad one bit my nigga! After all his Lagos mafia is in charge of CBN.... The ones Buhari & co no clear off, they go use am hold body small. At all At all na witch as we dey talk am for Edo grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
I Concur, it doesn't. Its just few months and FBI will open the can of worms!!! His original and now fake identity will be revealed. Monumental disgrace, he was at the UNGA in US, and couldn't meet Biden cos they warned him of the dangers of giving this EVIL ROTTEN CRIMINAL a soft landing via the FBI FILES. He left in disgrace, wait and see who the man that now calls himself TINUBU once was!!! even CSU is now extremely cautious cos they know this scandal will bring their institution down, so trading their honour for one MAN cos of monetary gains doesnt sound good.
PoliticsRe: Shame....nigerians It Is Finished! We Now Know Who Asiwaju: He Was Jailed Twice! by Ecosystem4u: 11:41am On Oct 01, 2023
Bigkoko:
What a time to be alive! When the Universe fights you, do not fight back, you can not win! Especially when the Universe picks a destiny child like HE Peter Obi, and his buddy HE Atiku Abubakar!
Nigerians will remember HE Atiku for two things:
1. He courageously fought 3rd Agenda to a stand still, even though he has a lot to loose.
2. Through his bankrolling of a legal tussle, a fraudulent and grossly corrupt Asiwaju was unmasked, disgraced and removed from power!

Here's what we now know.
* Operation cold stone is hanging on Asiwaju head. Put in place by America CiA.
* Asiwaju used forged papers to cover his real identities.
* Asiwaju forfeited large sums of money, making a person of interest (a Narco offender) to Justice Department.
* Asiwaju real name is not BOLA AHMED TINUBU, the real name is a fellow who has been jailed twice in the US, straight from my busddy who works at States Department.
* The international community is well aware of this criminal, that is why they give him cold shoulder.
* Asiwaju attempted to destroy Biden govt by making it look like POTUS supports him. A hot sushi for Republicans. David Axelrod actually collected huge sums of money to get a meeting with Biden on the sidelines of UNGA. Biden & his kitchen cabinet were not in support of this fellow. Poor Asiwaju.....all his moves are well known to the Republicans. Its the republican hand that makes it possible for the FBI to start releasing his doc by Oct, 2023.
* Because of Asiwaju, David Axelrod has been banned from White House.
* Every one who has connections with Asiwaju in the US are removing their hands, especially CSU.
* This week, Honorable Judge Nancy would rule..... even a baby can guess what the ruling would be grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
* Let be hold on to the icing on the cake: Someone was jailed twice in the US for fraud (bank fraud) and later rebranded into Bola A Tinubu grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin No be talk, but some documents viewed from FBI archives!

How are these fellows feeling?
The white haired cultist..
The US based Prof, who also is a bigot.
Chop chop FFK.
The jobless scavenger Reno
The lid is about to be lifted everything about this man will come to light, he will be shamed and disgraced once and for all. Six months as a president doesn't sound so bad, now doest it?
PoliticsRe: Senior US Judge Denies Tinubu's Emergency Appeal, Orders Court To Release Record by Ecosystem4u(op): 11:29am On Oct 01, 2023
The major issue at stake now is that the supreme court has a deadline of 5th of October for submission of new evidence, labour union is threatening strike on the 3rd! What do you think is the correlation? Don't you think the labour union is compromised?. Just mark my word our Okpolo eyed drug trafficker and certificate forger will make no attempt to stop the strike so court will not sit on the 5th! Fingers crossed.
PoliticsRe: Senior US Judge Denies Tinubu's Emergency Appeal, Orders Court To Release Record by Ecosystem4u(op): 10:35am On Oct 01, 2023
Abrahamweb:
That guy is right o boss.
The US government is involved in this matter and if it's true that they are blackmailing Tinubu, technicalities can still come in.
Let's just pray now.
What do you mean 'blackmailing' that word has never come up and doesn't apply here.
PoliticsRe: Senior US Judge Denies Tinubu's Emergency Appeal, Orders Court To Release Record by Ecosystem4u(op): 10:32am On Oct 01, 2023
Supposing this records happens to be incriminating, and Atiku has till 5th Otober to file it in under normal circumstances and he succeeds with filling it in. On what technical grounds will the judges throw it out. PRE ELECTION MATTERS cheesy
PoliticsRe: Senior US Judge Denies Tinubu's Emergency Appeal, Orders Court To Release Record by Ecosystem4u(op): 10:29am On Oct 01, 2023
rayvelez:
Make we no jubilate yet
Why do you think so?, Did you see where the judge said, unnecessary appeals which of course she understands as delay tactics will not be tolerated? Let those files come in tomorrow. The underlying truth is, there's something not right in that certificate. Let the school tell us why they can depose under oath that he graduated, but can't vouch for the certificate he is parading under same oath!! Fingers crossed.
PoliticsSenior US Judge Denies Tinubu's Emergency Appeal, Orders Court To Release Record by Ecosystem4u(op): 10:22am On Oct 01, 2023
Sunday, October 1, 2023

Senior U.S. judge denies Bola Tinubu’s emergency appeal, orders CSU to turn over records to Atiku, testify under oath Monday afternoon.

The ruling marks a major blow to Mr Tinubu and a progress for Mr Abubakar, who has been seeking the records to establish that the Nigerian president tnedered forged certificate.


President Bola Tinubu has lost his emergency application to block Chicago State University from releasing his academic records to Atiku Abubakar.

Judge Nancy Maldonado of the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois in Chicago said the decision of a lower federal magistrate judge on September 19 was appropriate and adopted it in full.

“The Court overrules President Tinubu’s objections to Magistrate Judge Gilbert’s recommended ruling, and therefore adopts the ruling in full. Mr Abubakar’s application is therefore granted,” the judge ruled. ‘In light of the pending Supreme Court of Nigeria deadline, represented to the court as October 5, 2023, and based on CSU’s representations that it is ready to comply with the discovery requests and produce a witness, the court sets an expedited schedule for completion of discovery.”

Ms Maldonado, a district judge, also said the CSU should turn over the records to Mr Abubakar by 12:00 p.m. Monday and also make its officials available for deposition to authenticate the documents by 5:00 p.m. on the same day.

The judge said any attempt by Mr Tinubu to appeal the judgement in the district would no longer be tolerated as Mr Abubakar must transfer the collected evidence to the Nigerian Supreme Court for use in an ongoing election petition case by October 5.

“CSU is directed to produce all relevant and non-privileged documents in response to Requests for Production Nos. 1 through 4 (as narrowed by Judge Gilbert and adopted here) in Mr. Abubakar’s subpoena, by 12:00 p.m. (noon) CDT, on Monday, October 2, 2023,” she added. “The Rule 30(b)(6) deposition of CSU’s corporate designee must be completed by 5:00 p.m. CDT on Tuesday, October 3, 2023. Given the October 5, 2023, filing deadline before the Supreme Court of Nigeria, the Court will not extend or modify these deadlines.”

The judge, however, said Mr Tinubu is free to file his appeal directly before the Seventh Circuit, which is the main appellate court overseeing Illinois and nearby states, an attempt that would likely prove daunting given the tight window for compliance by CSU.

The ruling marks a major blow to Mr Tinubu and a huge victory for Mr Abubakar, who has been seeking the records to establish that Mr Tinubu presented a forged certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission when he submitted his application to run for president in June 2022.

Section 137 (1)(j) of the Nigerian Constitution (amended in 2010) specifically stated that no one would be legitimately elected president of Nigeria if the person “has presented a forged certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission.”

Prior to the ruling late Saturday night, Judge Maldonado had acknowledged the significant public interest dimension of the case, saying it would cause her to expedite justice for all parties.

The president did not deny the charges that the certificate was forged, especially as it was purportedly signed by administrators who were not even at the school when he graduated in 1979, but only insisted, alongside the school, that he attended and graduated.

He also said releasing the documents with deposition would cause him severe harm because they were private to him and would not be admissible in the ongoing petition against him in Nigeria, an argument that further fueled nationwide concern about what the president might have been hiding about himself from Nigerians.

The CSU said it would state under oath that Mr Tinubu attended, but it won’t be able to certify the authenticity of the certificate he paraded in Nigeria under oath.

Mr Abubakar’s lawyers would now be able to test the school’s claims, alongside Mr Tinubu’s, during tomorrow’s records release.

Courtesy: People's Gazette.
PoliticsRe: INEC Laments As 241,715 Bayelsa, Kogi, Imo Voters Shun PVCs by Ecosystem4u: 8:17am On Sep 28, 2023
What the heck is INEC? A useless long forgotten criminal enterprise, who takes these serial thieves and con men serious in this country any more?
CrimeRe: Woman Kills Her 65-Year-Old Husband With Pestle In Ondo by Ecosystem4u: 9:03pm On Sep 27, 2023
HRHQueenPhil:
Fit of anger is an opening for the devil to cause mayhem
I pray his soul rest in peace and madam is granted liniency
Evil soul you are, so she shouldn't get punishment commensurate to the crime? Cold blooded murder and you advocating for leniency?
Foreign AffairsRe: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Ecosystem4u: 11:05pm On Sep 23, 2023
patorial:
This isn't true, please.

Don't forget that Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia were already civilized before the rise of the Roman empire.
Ok that being case, supposing we narrow this thing down to maybe....East, West and Central Africa, perhaps this distance barrier I spoke about could apply. Notably the countries in your list are North African countries which to a large extent was actively involved in intercontinental trade during the reing of the Roman empire, most of North African countries featured in the BIBLE .....Ethiopia, Libya, Egypt and maybe Even Sudan. These countries already had access and relationship with the Middle East, Asia etc.
TravelRe: Onitsha-Owerri Federal Highway Bows To The Force Of Erosion (Photos, Video) by Ecosystem4u: 9:59pm On Sep 23, 2023
Well our son is the minister for works althoug in an illegitimate gorvernment, trust he will sort and fix most death traps of federal roads in the East Before the Real President takes over. If he extends olive branch to retain Umahi in his present portfolio who am I to dispute, ozuoh!
Foreign AffairsRe: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Ecosystem4u: 9:52pm On Sep 23, 2023
THEPACIFIST:
The best thread I have come across this year, I feel enlightened, more wisdom to every contributor on this thread. I wish more of thread like this would gain prominence here.
I couldn't agree more.
this is refreshing and dignifying. I am happy to be present here this evening. Trillion thanks to the OP and of course more power to his elbow. This singular post has helped me validate quite a number of things through further deep research! Makes more sense to me now.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Ecosystem4u: 9:38pm On Sep 23, 2023
djon78:
And Jesus Christ was born during the reign of Augustus Cesar.
When the emperor gave directive for the census of the entire Roman world

Joseph took Mary his wife to his hometown in Bethlehem to be counted in census where she gave birth to our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏

You can imagine how organized Rome was over 2000years ago to have conducted census then

What were Africans doing then?


Honestly I Love History!!
Honestly I have no inkling too, but in my own opinion I would say.... it could be distance barrier? Probably lack of direct trade route to Rome, Egypt, Syria, Jerusalem and the Arabia that caused such primitive and backward living in Africa during the period, cos counties withing proximity to the above mentioned nations seemed to adapt and develope much faster having been earlier exposed to various religions and forms of organised gorvernment through trade relationships.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Ecosystem4u:
djon78:
Actually it was emperor Constantine after his conversion to Christianity
Turned Rome from pagan to Christianity
And founded the Catholic Church

The Catholic Church was already established 600 years before the coming of prophet Muhammad

The Catholic Church held sway for over 1500 years before the advent of Martin Luther, the creating of the church of England, then Methodist Church

Then the migration of pilgrims to the New world America when they were fleeing from persecution from the king's of Europe

The pilgrims founded America on foundation of Liberty, and freedom for every Man

The Americans fought war with the British and gained Independence
Setting up the powerful US Constitution built on Liberty


The Europeans then began to go around discovering other parts of the world aided by industrial revolution they built the steam engine that enabled ships travel thousands of miles to other continents especially championed by the Portuguese and the British

The Portuguese were the first to discover Africa while the British discovered Australia, New Zealand.

The Europeans started coming to Africa and the transatlantic slave trade started for over 150 years
Africans were sold into slavery to the New world, America, Caribbeans

Then the British abolished slave trade and started Trading on raw materials like palm oil etc

With time they formed trading posts in Africa example is the Royal Niger company that First came as traders but later colonised Africa by Force after Africa was shared amongst the Europeans in late 18th century

That's when Nigeria was formed and various African tribes were organized into Nations


This has been the bane of Africa as a continent
And the reality is that Africa may never Develop like other parts of the world
Because the Europeans that gave us form and being are the ones still in control of our world

We Africans are no match for them in Development and advancement
Apt, deep and educating, most detailed and advanced thing I have come across on the internet this year. Much repect to you Sir.

You made me research on the Roman Senator and historian named Publius Aticus and such like names as Flavius Josephus, Julius Ceaser, Augustus Ceaser who was the Roman Emperor when JESUS was born. To me, History is the best thing after Science.
PoliticsRe: Presidency Withdraws Statement On Tinubu As First African Leader To Ring NASDAQ by Ecosystem4u: 7:50pm On Sep 22, 2023
Ajuri Nglielie well done, not sure this young man is ready for this task.
PoliticsRe: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Ecosystem4u: 11:25am On Sep 20, 2023
seunmsg:
And it’s in your place to tell me what to post or not?
Man is just two days today we will all see what the documents contain and see the schools management position on them under deposition, that solves the whole problem. Your prempting us is imaterial here, I know you are doing the job you are paid to do, albeit let us have us have some quite while we wait for the documents.
PoliticsRe: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Ecosystem4u: 11:15am On Sep 20, 2023
seunmsg:
So funny reading the opinion of folks who don’t even understand the implication of what they’ve read. So, how exactly will CSU releasing Tinubu’s academic records change anything? The said academic records have already been released to different persons before the judgement and its in public domain already. It was released to Enahoro-Ebah who testified at the PEPC on behalf of same Atiku. It was released to Tinubu himself and presenter to PEPC by his lawyers. So, what new academic record is Atiku looking for?
You are crying over a spilled milk. Let's patiently wait for the documents, it's not in your position to tell us what it will contain. What's wrong with you?
PoliticsRe: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Ecosystem4u: 10:56am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:
Like I predicted,the court only ordered a narrow release of just a few documents and not what atiku wanted...see it below

III.
DOCUMENT REQUESTS
Request No. 1.

A true and correct copy of any diploma for a Bachelor of Science degree issued by CSU in
1979.
Request No. 2.
A true and correct copy of any diploma issued by CSU in 1979 to Mr. Tinubu.
Request No. 3.
True and correct copies of any diplomas issued by CSU (other than to Mr. Tinubu) that
contain the same font, seal, signatures, and wording (other than the name of the recipient and the
specific degree awarded) as contained in Exhibit C to the First Liu Declaration, which purports to
be a CSU diploma issued to Mr. Tinubu on or about June 22, 1979.
Request No. 4.
True and correct copies of any CSU documents relating to Mr. Tinubu that were certified
by Jamar C. Orr, Esq., including, without limitation, the documents in Exhibit D to the Uwais
Get your facts right pls.
Read the full document by the court, the applicant later narrowed the subpoena request for want of time, and even at that the narrowed subpoena STILL CONTAINS major information regarding Tinubu. So the narrowed request is what the court have granted, and it will contain everything that Atiku wants to know.
PoliticsRe: Reno Omokri Says AriseTV Is A 'Propaganda Machine' by Ecosystem4u: 5:34pm On Sep 17, 2023
This man is long over due for a political post, he has made enough noise to be noticed haba undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Steps Where Jesus walked Healed a Blind Man Unearthed In Jerusalem by Ecosystem4u: 4:06pm On Sep 17, 2023
musicwriter:
It's not difficult to know.
Just research it HISTORICALLY. Fact-check everything HISTORICALLY and if you do with an open mind, you'll see how it all came to be.

You can begin with the following books:

1. Who Wrote the New Testament?: The Making of the Christian Myth- by Burton Mack
2. How ancient scribes invented biblical characters- Gary Greenberg
3. Caesars Messiah: the Roman conspiracy to invent Jesus - by Joseph At will
4. Christianity before Christ- by John G. Jackson
5. The world's sixteen crucified saviours- by Graves
6. Jesus never existed- by Kenneth Humphreys

There are thousands of such books you could read when you're ready to know the truth.
I have seen where and how your mind got corrupted, patronizing anti-christian literature written by SATANISTS. Burn those satanic books and be free.
Christianity EtcRe: How Did We End Up With So Many Churches? by Ecosystem4u: 4:02pm On Sep 17, 2023
Most of them are formed out of greed and lust, for them is sex and money. So many evil going on inside these criminal churches.

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