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7footre:
oh, ok. thats nice then. the article didnt say so, so pardon me

We good

7footre:
wow.... not a mean feat if you ask me, what do you do with your life after wasting 14 long years in servitude? how do you make it in life? unless there is more to the story, its not something i will encourage but then again its not my business so dont mind my rantings

They go to school in the palace and are sponsored through out the university onwards

PointZerom:
Yeye dey smell

Spare Us with your bullshit Abeg !!

Lalasticlala

Mynd44

Oba GHA to kpe ee iseee

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Olu317:
SOME OF THESE EDO CHAPS AND BINI CHIEFS ARE WILLING TO GIVE SOME HALLUCINATING EMPTY BRAINS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MOCKERY OF YORUBA CLAIMS. THIS IS MY REASON TO EVEN BRING OUT THE FACT OF OGIAMIEN FAMILY WHO WHERE THE LINEAGE OF THE OGISO DYNASTY. AND EVEN THESE PALACE CHIEFS HAVE NEARLY DESTROYED THE EVIDENCE IF NOT BECAUSE THE EXISTENCE OF THE OGIAMEN FAMILY. THEY EVEN TRY TO SILENCE THEM WHEN THERE WAS A DISCORD BETWEEN THEM AND THE PALACE. IF ORANMIYAN MARRIE FROM THAT LINEAGE, DOES IT MAKE ORANMIYAN A BINI MAN? WILL THE SON NOT BELONG TO HIS FATHER AGAIN? JUST IMAGINE THESE PEOPLE TWISTING HISTORY TO SUIT THEMSELVES. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THRONG TO DIFFERENT SITES TO READ ABOUT DIFFERENT ETHNICITY HISTORY,YORUBA HISTORY INCLUDED AND HERE WE ARE HAVING SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ORANMIYAN. THUS CALLING HIM ONE USELESS AND FACELESS EKALEDARAN OR WHATEVER BUSH NAME THEIR DEAD AND COWARDICE WORMY AND UNFIT MAN THAT BEGGED FOR LIFE BEFORE HE WAS FREED BY A SLAVE MEANT TO KILL . I DID THIS FOR THE BENEFITS OF DOUBT TO ANYONE WHO DECIDES TO GO THROUGH MY PREVIOUS INFO AND QUOTE OF THE OBA KING WHO TRIED TO PLAY POLITICS AND ECONOMICAL WITH TRUTH WILL KNOW THAT THERE IS A FAMILY LINEAGE CALLED OGIAMIEN WHO WERE DESCENDANTS OF OGISO OR BETTER STILL THE RULER THAT WAS BEFORE ORANMIYAN CAME FROM ILE IFE WITH HIS ESCORT,WARRIORS AND PRIESTS WHO (ORANMIYAN AND CO) WERE KNOWN AS STRANGERS IN ANCIENT IGODOMOGODO TURNED TO ILE UBINU/IBINU TO BINI.



THANKS BRO. I REST THIS CASE AS IT CONCERNS KINGSHIP LINEAGE OF OBA BINI.

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TRASHY POST!! FULL OF LIES......SUCK IT UP YORUBA ARE KIDS TO EDOS!!
ODUDUWA WAS A BENIN PRINCE AND IS D FATHER OF ALL YORUBA KINGS HENCE ALL YORUBA KINGS ARE MERE CHILDREN OF THE BENIN STOOL!

WE EDOS HOLD U YORUBAS IN CONTEMPT WE DISLIKE ANYTIN PERTAINING U PPL THE EARLIER THE BETTER U PPL GET DAT IN UR SKULL..... N NEVA COMPARE THAT VILLAGE CALLED ILE IFE DAT WAS N STILL IS A BACKWARD VILLAGE WITH BENIN DAT IS NOW A CITY IN ALL RAMIFICATIONS.....

[[s]quote author=nisai post=53742135]Pls stop quoting that character; she is a troll. Notice what she's been posting for day- " Trash as usual".[/quote][/s]

BCUS ALL UR BRODA TYPES IS TRASH.......ABSOLUTE TRASH!!!

[quote author=vicadex07 post=53737975][/quote]SEE THIS UGLY TIN..... WIT FACE LIKE REJECTED FEOTUS!!

vicadex07:


Stop advertising those rotten mangoes you call boobs...

Nairaland is not xvideos..

UGLEE DUCK....
GOD FORBID

vicadex07:


Stop advertising those rotten mangoes you call boobs...

Nairaland is not xvideos..

UR 2ND BAN IS ON ITS WAR WAY......EWAU BUZOU

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FALSIFIED STATEMENT OF OBA BINI WHICH CLAIM ODUA AS EKALEDARAN... AND THE OGIAMIEN FAMILY THAT CLAIMED OBA BINI AS FOREIGNER IN EDO LAND TESTIFY TO THE TRUTH THAT THE ANCESTORS ARE YORUBA.


“I therefore stand before you as the 40th Oba of Benin, a direct descendant of Oranmiyan, the son of Oduduwa, whom the Benin people of that era knew as Ekaladeran, their self-exiled prince who later became ruler in Ile-Ife. The Benin people recognise Oduduwa and his origin but it is not our place to force this recognition on others outside our boundaries.“The history of the world is a shared one and there will certainly be unexpected connections in the future. This is, thus, a time for unity and not divisiveness, a time for mutual respect, recognising that our wholeness as people is so much more than the sum of our parts.”
Such a statement seems ill-advised and in extremely poor taste when viewed against the prism of the invitation to the Ooni of Ife and other Yoruba Kings and their presence at that event. I say it was ill-advised because his assertion is clearly at variance with the position of the Ooni of Ife on that matter. Secondly, it is extreme bad manners to invite a guest and then to call into question his ancestry to his very face when it would be impolite for the guest to dispute and correct such an erroneous statement at that occasion.
One also needs to make clear a number of factors here. Both highly controversial accounts (the Bini and Yoruba accounts that is) come from word of mouth acco
unt.

THE TRUTH CAN'T BE COVERED : OGIAMIEN ARE EDO OF BINI EXTRACTION:


Apart from the fact that Oba Ewuare’s account is disputed within Benin by the Ogiemien family (who point to the Ekiokpagha Treaty that requires every new aspiring Oba of Benin to pay a once in a lifetime rent to the Ogiamien (as the true aboriginal monarch) before being able to ascend to the throne of Benin), one doubts that the Oba of Benin is in a better position than his cousins in the South West to give an account of the ancestry of their common ancestor. I say this for the following reason. Eweka the 1st had minimal contact with (a) Oduduwa (b) Oduduwa’s son Akanbi and (c) Oduduwa’s grandson (and Eweka’s father) Oranmiyan





OBA EWUARE II CONTRADICTED HIMSELF WHEN HE MADE ASSERTION THAT ORANMIYAN WAS THE FIRST OBA OF BINI AND THAT HE CAME WITH THE WORD OBA WHICH WAS STRANGE TO IGODOMOGODO(TRUTH SO BITTER AS GALL)



(QUOTE OF OBA EWUARE II)Historians all agree that Oduduwa sent his son Oronmiyan at the request of elders of Benin to return with them as ruler of their realm. Oronmiyan’s stay in Benin may have been short, but before he left, a child was born to him, who was later crowned Oba (King) and is known today as Eweka I. Oronmiyan’s time in Benin, however short lived, he was an Oba; and so, he was the first Oba after the Ogiso dynasty came to an end. He established Obaship in Benin. By implication, the listing of past Obas should therefore begin from Oronmiyan as it is listed in Egharevba’s book – Short History of Benin, making my revered father 39th Oba that reigned in Benin – if the listing is counted from and, should be counted from






WHO ARE THE OGIAMIEN FAMILY?
the Ogiamien Royal Family is seeking for the full implementation of the Ekiokpagha Treaty entered into by the first Oba of Benin Oba Eweka I and Ogiamien Erebo in 12:00AD, when Obaship was forcefully introduced into Igodomigodo in 12:00AD by which time Ogiamien Erebo was the reigning King of the Binis. The Ekiokpagha Treaty from what we are hearing now divided Igodomigodo now Bini into two; one part Ogiamien Erebo reluctantly leased to Oba Eweka I in 12:00AD to stop the Oyo Empire that attacked them from further massacre of the Binis then, the portion which is now known as Benin Kingdom, while Ogiamien Erebo took the remaining part now known as Utantan Kingdom. The Bini speaking area of Edo State is made up of seven local government areas namely:






TRUTH SO BITTER BUT SWALLOW IT. YORUBA SUBJECTS ,ENJOY YOURSELVES.[/quote][/s]


TRASH AS USUAL!!

AreaFada2:
EdoNation keep doing your thing. Do not mind that bigoted 0oni guy. I do not take him seriously anymore or give him the attention he so seeks.

Keep posting enlightening material here. There are many sensible, objective and discerning people quietly reading. Their problem is that because Benin is today a " minority" tribe, they find it hard to grasp the illustrious history as documented in national museums in London, Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam and other places that I like to go and see from time to time.

One SW guy even once said oyinbo historical records and sketches of Benin of visiting oyinbo those centuries ago were made up.
That is the extent of their desperation.

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Thanks Bro

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Olu317:
...DID IT PAIN YOU? LET ME HIT HARDER. WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THE TRADITIONAL RULER OF AUCHI? OTARU ? DO YOU TRULY KNOW THE STORY OF THE CONQUEST OF A GREAT EDO PEOPLE OF AUCHI DESCENDANTS THAT MADE THEM PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIMS?......I THOUGHT YOU PEOPLE FLY IN THE SKY TO rule everywhere. AND HERE YOU ARE FUMING AS IF YOU FOUGHT ANY SERIOUS WARS. WE OUGHT TO HAVE WHINE YOUR VILLAGES IF NOT THE BEGGING BY EDO CHIEFS AT ILE IFE TO COME RULE OVER THEM. GO AND SLEEP ON THIS DOSE....

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TRASH!!

EWIA BUZUO


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opal4real:
Its quite obvious that I'm engaging a daft in a historical argument. You are waste of cyber time. Your betters may be sensible enough not to evade my question. Over to them and as for you go smoke a jumbo size weed which is your major pre-occupation.

Ask your elders if you have any why the Fulani jihadist stopped at Auchi and did not go further to Benin? Ewobi, ovbie ane yowa!!! Ewia!!

THAT BOY NA CONFAM EWIA BUZUO
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Stupid statement from an ignorant person. I am Yoruba from Lagos and benin is one of the children of oduduwa. Get that fact !!!![/quote][/s]

HOW CAN THE SON FATHER THE FATHER?

ODUDUWA WAS A BENIN PRINCE.... GET DAT IN UR SKULL Yoruba boy

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Benin kingdom Science and Technology


ENGINEERING – The most renowned of the achievements of our ancestors and contribution to World civilization are the Iya (Benin) and Iyalla (Esan) which are recognized as the largest earth movements in the world before the invention of machines (See Guinness Book of Records 1980s). But unfortunately for some political reasons and some vested interest (which I will not go into), it could not be listed among the UNESCO World Heritage Sites in Nigeria. Whereas Sukur stone Palace in Adamawa State (Director-General of Museums and Monuments was from Adamawa) and Osun Osogbo (Director-General of Museums and Monuments then was also from Osun state) got listed.

Another Mind Blowing work of Engineering is the Benin moat which can only be compared to the wall of china. I would expanciate more on the wondrous engineering feats accomplised by the Edos and her people on a seperate thread!



PHARMACUTICAL SCIENCES - Dr. Nowa Omoigui has continuously drawn attention to our achievements in pharmacy and medicine. The Institute is aware and has access to documentation of Edo pharmaceutical and medical knowledge done by an Edo chief between 1930s and 1970s running into over 10,000 pages in manuscript. But the problem
is the documentation is Edo language and since 2001 we have been in
search of funds for translation and publishing this lifelong work of
painstaking research.

BOTANY - A European Forest Botanist who worked in Benin in the 1930s admitted in his studies that the Benin were better botanist than the Europeans in the classification of rain forest trees. He stated that, The more one has to do the correlation of vernacular [Edo] names with their scientific equivalents, the more one come to realize that they are not merely a haphazard jumble. There seems to be a considerable amount of
almost scientific system and a wealth of description in many of the names.
While dealing with the Guarea species-Obobo’s, it is perhaps worth
noting that systematic botanists were a long time making up their minds as
to the correct classification of Guarea Cedrata and for at time it was
transferred to the genus Trichilia. The Bini was never in doubt about the
matter and made it clear that he considered it to be a Guarea
Thus the classification of the Guarea which have for long baffled the
Europeans was rightly resolved using the Benin indigenous
classification. See R. H. Hide “The Bini as a Botanist” Nigerian Field,
Vol. XI, 1943 p.32. Through out the colonial period and beyond, Benin
names are used for the trade name of much African timber

WOOD TECHNOLOGY - They also developed technology for harvesting and preserving
the wood from their forest. Archaeological investigations revealed that
the Benin were able to cut and shape hard wood especially the one known
as Iron wood without the use of saw before the 13th century, a feat
which baffled Europeans. Graham Connah, The Archaeology of Benin:
Excavations and other researches in and around Benin City, P.247


PLANT SCIENCE - The Edo domesticated many species of plants in their
environment for their own use and mankind. There is specie of cotton
domesticated by the Edo people known as lshan cotton and one of the best
for weaving Khaki or jeans. The colonial government went about
encouraging the cultivation of this specie in Nigeria before the cotton
trade in Southern Nigeria collapsed. A colonial official who visited
Esan area in 1902 reported the quality of the cloth made from this
cotton specie to be “of strong durable texture” National Archives,
Ibadan File CSO 1/13 Vol 20, Windham Fosberry Report on visit to Ishan
Country, 1902


TEXTILE TECHNOLOGY – Earlier in the 18th Century French trader Landolphe reported of Benin that “a few houses are to be seen without a cotton spinning machine or a frame for making admirable cotton or straw rugs” Ling H. Roth, Great Benin: Its Custom, Art, and
Horrors, 1968, P 141 while in the 1860s the British Consul Burton
complained that Benin people were not disturbed by English trade embargo
because they are “…independent of Manchester” textile mills. Ibid 142

METAL TECHNOLOGY - Their mastery of the Brass is very well known.
Archaeologist and historians are still baffled and yet to establish the
source of copper which were used for their brass work. The cire perdue
technique of casting is also known to have been indigenously developed.
Similar achievements also exist in Iron technology. Scientific
investigations show that the techniques of iron smelting employed the
same principles with modern or western iron smelting techniques. The Edo
mastery of the iron is best exemplified by the Ineme (a Large group in
Edo areas whose expertise is legendary. For the Benin
call them Uleme ne gbe egue and there is a Benin proverb that describe
the best Iron smelter and smith in Benin would be an apprentice among
the Ineme. Their expertise was sought not only by Benin but also by the
Igala, Igbira and yoruba for production of weapons.
See
Aigbokhaoede. Asimilafele,
Inemhe- Our heritage, 1991

FOOD TECHNOLOGY - They had also developed various food stuffs from their
knowledge of the forest environment and even developed ways of
preserving them with certain areas specializing. There are some snacks
that my grand parents used to feed us in our childhood, but these food
stuffs have all disappeared now from our markets and menu. The
nutritional value and abundance of these food stuffs were such that the
earliest anthropological investigation in Benin in the 1900s stated that
“As a rule malnutrition was rare” among the Benin people. Northcote
Thomas, Anthropological report on the Edo speaking people of Southern
Nigeria, Part I, 1910, P.6

AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE - They knew their environment and soil and the best techniques that were suitable for maximum yield. They selected their soil and the best soil was known as
Eken ne Uloka – loose soil that allowed percolation of water and easy
decay of vegetable matter to fertilize the soil. They checked the
topography too and ensured that it did not destroy the environment-
proverbs abound about this e.g. No gua Iya I mien eken no yawo ehe – one
who plants the side of the valley is unable to cover it with soil”
In this way gulley erosion was avoided.

Frederick Lugard, Governor General
of Nigeria 1912-1918 commended the agricultural techniques of Benin
people for helping to preserve the forest .
Frederick Lugard Political
Memoranda: Revision of Instructions to Political Officers on subjects
Political and Administrative, 1913-1918, P.432 The farming technique’s
conservationist value was further commended by the Forest officer P. A.
Allison in his article “Historical inferences to be drawn from the effect of human settlement on the vegetation of Africa” Journal of African history, Vol. III, No 2, 1962, p.243 .


ORTHOPAEDICS - Late Dr Okojie wrote in his Ishan Native Laws and Custom 1960 that the Edo orthopedic medical knowledge was as good if not better than the Western.
The famous Oghede orthopedic hospital in Ugbede is still very well
patronized long after the old man who made it famous died. His sons took
over and establish another hospital in Benin almost along modern lines
behind the Oba’s palace.


WRITING - Did the Benin’s develop some writing or some written symbols? All Olokun and Ogun symbols in the past were propagated in Benin

See Hau, K.,”Evidence of the Use of
pre-Portuguese Written Characters by the Bini?”, Bulletin l'Ifan, 21,
serie B, 1-2.

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A meme?

I posted screen shots of an ethnographic research from the last century and all you have is a meme?



Give me a textbook, journal article - anythinh scholarly with that statement quoted there in.

You and your folks here are making unintelligence look like a genetic thing for Bini people.



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ALL YOU POSTED BELONGS TO THE DUSTBIN!!


THEY ARE ALL FABRICATED DIRTY TRASH FROM IBADAN

opal4real:
These are evidence that the real people rule over Lagos knows what it was and what it is.

Instead of these kids to read widely and ask questions from elder but they all come here to display their ignorance by insulting their ancestors. Only a bas.tard points to his fathers house with his left hand.


cc: O0ni Olu317 Areafada2 EdoNation

Dont mind those clearly confused kids running around naked on nairaland

[[s]quote author=Olu317 post=53707402].YET YORUBA LANGUAGE HAVE SEMITIC TOUCHES. DO YOU HAVE EL IN YOUR LANGUAGE? FATHER IS BA AL IN HEBREW AND FATHER IS BA'ALE, KARA IS READ/CALLED WHILE KA IS READ IN YORUBA AND KA'WA IS CALLED. DO YOU WANT TO GO THE EGYPTIANS WAY? SEARCH YOU WILL LEARN. LOOK AT THIS SLAVE BLOOD RANTING. YOU ARE A DELUDED YOUNG MAN WASTING HIS TIME ON THE INTERNET. BETTER GET YOUR ASS WORKING.... IS BINI AN EDO LANGUAGE? I SAID GO AND TELL YOUR ELDERS TO TELL YOU THE ORIGINAL VERSION... MONKEY LIKE YOU ACTING LIKE HUMAN BEING......CORK AND BULL STORY...GOD SAVE UNA SAY RAVAGING FULANI NOR CATCH UNA THOSE YONDER YEARS.... UNA FOR HEAR WIEN. IN FACT AUCHI NO BI EDO BUT IGALA/EBIRA/ NUPE WITH THE SUBDUED EDOID...MIX UP PEOPLE. TRUTH IS BITTER....ELEERI KERI OMO LA SAN EKIJI AJA.[/quote][/s]


TRASH!!!

YOU ARE CLEARLY DRUNK ON EWEDU

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Who then is Oghene?



You implore me, LOL.

Post the citation to any book, just one book that states Ogedengbe stepped foot in Bini land.

You implore me



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So Benin is now a participant in Kiriji war? Are you lot on a mission to re-write Kiriji war now?

Thank God Samuel Johnson was an eye witness and wrote down verifiable records. Else, una for don claim Kiriji war to have been a Bini event.

Dude, go read.[/quote][/s]


TRASH AS USUAL!!!



EWEDU NOR GOOD OOO

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LIES FROM THE PIT OF HABAKUK

O0ni:
Are you able to hold a normal discussion & stop being a troll?

Counter Bini history as stated by Oba Osolua in the 1480s.

Norbe only oba osula na Oba Ovoramwen Nogbasisi and Oba Esigie talk am........TRASH FROM Ibadan printing press TRASH

O0ni:
OK.

This?

PEDDLING THIS TRASH ALL OVER NAIRALAND...... U LOOK SO LAME.... LMAO SMH

O0ni:
OK.

This?

TRASH...... FROM IBADAN PRINTING PRESS.... FROM A DIRTY SLUM

So Kogi has always been in the North!! Norbe tday

Emmy1234567890:
Mr,

I appreciate the fact that your write-up speak well of the Ondos. Sir, I advice you don't mislead the chair and the hourable house with your little knowledge about the origin of ondos. I am proudly Ondo man and I can trace my origin back to ile-ife (Yoruba).

The Benin was originated from the ile-ife (Yoruba). Benin was among the grand child of oodua. So what are you say?

Yoruba CAME OUT FROM BENIN........GET DAT IN UR SKULL.

I do not see any Uproar oo ........LMAO

MAKE WE HEAR WORD JAARE

EVEN THE PICTURE DOESNT AGREE WITH THEM