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sukkot:
ahhh okkk so it is important to know that the bible is an allegorical book. and the way to break down the allegory and parables is also inside the bible for example when you see mountain it is referring to an empire on top of the world and when it refers to valley it is referring to a fallen empire and tower means a man of immense power controlling the world etc etc etc. so moses climbed up high into the mountains means that he became a world ruler and while he was in stewardship of the world the LORD downloaded the full wisdom of the world to him. and so however he started slowly losing his power ( descending and came down from the mountain ) because the people were no longer responding to the divine wisdom he was using to rule the world and people wanted to dabble in prosperity and wealth worship ( golden calf ) and so basically he lost his audience as a result of which he lost his power ( descended down from the mountain ) and he lost all the divine wisdom but the people now had it in pieces ( christianity and islam and orisha and metaphysics and astrological magic etc etc ) which is the situation till this very day ( dashed into pieces )

let me also add that when he was ruling the world he is the pharoah called THUTMOSES historically and when he had all that insane wisdom was when they did the pyramid and sphinx etc in egypt. but when he fell the people started worshipping gold etc which when you look at all the tombs in egypt you will see people buried with their golds and wealth

Are the following points what you are actually saying?

A: Moses was an actual human being that existed, but he didn't belong to a particular group of people called the Israelites.
B: Moses didn't climb a physical - literal - mountain.
C: Moses didn't receive any two physical stone tablets with the Ten Commandments written on them.
D: Some people didn't make any golden calf and, therefore, didn't provoke Moses or their God by their action.
E: Moses didn't throw down and shatter to pieces any physical tablets - objects.

Are those summaries and extrapolations made from you narratives above apt? If they are, according to your narratives, could you answer the following questions:

1: What does the Red Sea mean? Is it something that existed/exists? If you it does or did, what does part it allegorically mean?
2: What about Egypt as recorded in the Scriptures? Do you think it was an actual place?
3: Were there different tribes, languages, cultures, etc, as at the time the events recorded in the Scriptures transpired?
4: What allegorical conclusion did you deduce from the sojourn of the Israelites - that is if you are of the view that no such group of people ever existed - in Egypt?
5: What about Moses and the burning bush?
6: What are the allegorical deduction have you made from the "pillar of cloud by day" and the "pillar of cloud by night"?
7: What does the water from the rock mean?
8: How do '"allegorize" the manner from heaven and the quail?
9: According to the Scripture, Moses, after throwing down and shattering the two stones tablets that were in his hand, went back and received another set with the same Commandments written on them, how do you "allegorize" that?

Sonmvayina, if I refer you to a particular thread now, you will dodge and hide away from nairaland for sometime.

sonmvayina:
So after reading this..

One mad man will come and say Satan challenged God...

I laff in pidgin English

You will soon laugh in engligbo.

Sonmvayina, each time you mention God, I always wonder the God you are talking about. Which god do you even worship? What are even your believes?

Challenging is always allowed. How will darkness be humiliated if it doesn't challenge light, sonmvayina? You know what our people say? Mberede ka eji a mara dike.

sukkot:
ahhh okkk so it is important to know that the bible is an allegorical book. and the way to break down the allegory and parables is also inside the bible for example when you see mountain it is referring to an empire on top of the world and when it refers to valley it is referring to a fallen empire and tower means a man of immense power controlling the world etc etc etc. so moses climbed up high into the mountains means that he became a world ruler and while he was in stewardship of the world the LORD downloaded the full wisdom of the world to him. and so however he started slowly losing his power ( descending and came down from the mountain ) because the people were no longer responding to the divine wisdom he was using to rule the world and people wanted to dabble in prosperity and wealth worship ( golden calf ) and so basically he lost his audience as a result of which he lost his power ( descended down from the mountain ) and he lost all the divine wisdom but the people now had it in pieces ( christianity and islam and orisha and metaphysics and astrological magic etc etc ) which is the situation till this very day ( dashed into pieces )

let me also add that when he was ruling the world he is the pharoah called THUTMOSES historically and when he had all that insane wisdom was when they did the pyramid and sphinx etc in egypt. but when he fell the people started worshipping gold etc which when you look at all the tombs in egypt you will see people buried with their golds and wealth

You didn't really answer my questions.

Carcholce:
You want me to tell you how God created the universe?

Is that what I asked of you?

Carcholce:
Please take it easy on me

I only asked a question, Car.

sukkot:
What did Moses receive? What did Moses dash to pieces? Why did Moses dash what he received to pieces? <<<<< this one

Yap.

sukkot:
broken what down ?

Check my comments on your thread.

sukkot:
you will get there soon

I have broken it down for you. Will you do the needful?

Carcholce:
They have little to no idea that life and nature existed before Jesus and Bible.

Tell us about it.

Carchoice:
Even Jesus is more of a Gnostic teacher than what His believers takes him to be today.

Is he now? Tell us more.

sukkot:
its explained in the bible twice i believe in allegories. first one is moses got the full complete wisdom from the HIGHER POWER and then he dashed it to the floor and broke it into pieces meaning that wholesome wisdom was dissected up into different disciplines and people took that and made doctrines out of the pieces.

What did Moses receive? What did Moses dash to pieces? Why did Moses dash what he received to pieces?

sukkot:
the second story is the tower that was been built up to the heavens because they all spoke the same language meaning there was an ascended being ( a tower ) who had the whole wisdom and because of that people turned him into a god and worshiped him like a god ( built the tower up to heaven ) and because of that the LORD made that ascended being lose that whole wisdom and splintered it and each person now turned the splintered aspects ( called language ) into a doctrine as a result of which they couldnt understand each other again ( christian ffight Muslim, christian fight ifa priest, christian fight astrologer, ifa priest fight christian, islam fight everybody, metaphysicians fight religious people etc etc )

Hilarious!

Ken4Christ:
I didn't encourage it more than Paul and John did.

Argue base on scriptures. Holier than I.

Who has the time to argue with you?

Ken, it is because of people like you that Nigeria, with all the numerous "churches", is home to the most corrupt, most wicked people on earth. Ken, it is because of people like you and the kinds of messages you propagate that the Good News of the Kingdom has almost no impart and impact in and on the society out there. Do the people act and behave like those who hear from the Scriptures? Nope! Why? Is it not because they are not getting the truth?

Jer 23: 29 “Is not my word like fire,” declares YHVH, “and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?

Did you hear that, Ken?

I will continue to live a sin-free life, Ken.

Jeremiah 23: 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem
I have seen something horrible:
They commit adultery and live a lie.
They strengthen the hands of evildoers,
so that not one of them turns from their wickedness.
They are all like Sodom to me;
the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.”

Jeremiah 23:13 Among the prophets of Samaria
I saw this repulsive thing:
They prophesied by Baal
and led my people Israel astray.

Jeremiah 23:17 They keep saying to those who despise me,
‘YHVH says: You will have peace.’
And to all who follow the stubbornness of their hearts
they say, ‘No harm will come to you.’

Jeremiah 23:23 “Am I only a God nearby,”
declares YHVH,
“and not a God far away?
24 Who can hide in secret places
so that I cannot see them?”
declares YHVH.
“Do not I fill heaven and earth?”
declares YHVH.

Jeremiah 23:23 “Am I only a God nearby,”
declares YHVH,
“and not a God far away?
24 Who can hide in secret places
so that I cannot see them?”
declares YHVH.
“Do not I fill heaven and earth?”
declares YHVH.

Jeremiah 23: 21 I did not send these prophets,
yet they have run with their message;
I did not speak to them,
yet they have prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in my council,
they would have proclaimed my words to my people
and would have turned them from their evil ways
and from their evil deeds.

Jeremiah 23:23 “Am I only a God nearby,”
declares YHVH,
“and not a God far away?
24 Who can hide in secret places
so that I cannot see them?”
declares YHVH.
“Do not I fill heaven and earth?”
declares YHVH.

Jeremiah 23:23 “Am I only a God nearby,”
declares YHVH,
“and not a God far away?
24 Who can hide in secret places
so that I cannot see them?”
declares YHVH.
“Do not I fill heaven and earth?”
declares YHVH.

Jeremiah 23:29 “Is not my word like fire,” declares YHVH, “and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?

Jeremiah 23:13 Among the prophets of Samaria
I saw this repulsive thing:
They prophesied by Baal
and led my people Israel astray.

Luke 17: Yahushua said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. 2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Jeremiah 23: 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem
I have seen something horrible:
They commit adultery and live a lie.
They strengthen the hands of evildoers,
so that not one of them turns from their wickedness.
They are all like Sodom to me;
the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.”

Jeremiah 23:17 They keep saying to those who despise me,
‘YHVH says: You will have peace.’
And to all who follow the stubbornness of their hearts
they say, ‘No harm will come to you.’

Jeremiah 23:17 They keep saying to those who despise me,
‘YHVH says: You will have peace.’
And to all who follow the stubbornness of their hearts
they say, ‘No harm will come to you.’

Jeremiah 23: 14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem
I have seen something horrible:
They commit adultery and live a lie.
They strengthen the hands of evildoers,
so that not one of them turns from their wickedness.
They are all like Sodom to me;
the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.”

Jeremiah 23:13 Among the prophets of Samaria
I saw this repulsive thing:
They prophesied by Baal
and led my people Israel astray.

Luke 17: Yahushua said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. 2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Ken4Christ:
You are ignorant of God's word. My submission is based on the evidence of Scripture but you are speaking based on your personal opinion. Give me Bible references that says Christians cannot sin and I will give you twice as much that says otherwise.

Ken, you are the one who is ignorant.

Ken, the sin-encouragement expert.

Every saint, servant, follower and messenger of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, can see clearly what has transpired here. This message, as light, is exposing the agents of Satan and the demons who hide behind the Scriptures.

You see, the agents of Satan and the demons can sing "Jesus" songs, dance, pray and fast, preach, quote Scriptures, speak the gibberish that they call tongues, but they can't hide when it comes to the truth of YHVH Almighty. This is where they are exposed.

Luke 6: 46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

Ken4Christ:
Even your rudeness in your response is sin.

A true child of God should be temperate.

I am not encouraging sin but its a fact.

Sin is not limited to fleshly acts like fornication.

Even lust conceived in your heart is sin.

When you deny someone help when it's within your power to help is sin.

So, I already caught you committing one sin. Your response was rude.

If rebuking Satan, the demons and their antics is rudeness in the records and books of their agents, then, so be it. Ken, you haved been resoundingly rebuked.

brocab:
So you practice witchcraft interesting: so you are obviously taught this in the good news of the kingdom church, now I understand which kingdom you belong too. Know wonder you wanted my name: use your witchcraft to caste out spells against me:
You need to repent to the Lord: then I got to ask which lord are you really serving? you need saving-sorcery is dangerous: if you are a child of God you wouldn't even be walking down this road: silly woman:
(Galatians 5:19-21) The apostle Paul lists sorcery as one of many sinful practices that mark the lives of unbelievers: “Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife . . . and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God”
{Exodus 22:18-20} Death is the punishment for witchcraft.
But thanks for your honesty: I don't need to talk with you about God. You serve another..

2 Timothy 3: 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Cab, the ịchị nkịta, are you still here exhibiting utter foolery? You go wail and lament tire here. You are still here trying to save face? Cab, you have already been disgraced and exposed as the true offspring of your father, Satan, the old serpent, and a true son of your mother, Jezebel, the witch.

Cab, if you don't repent and turn away from this your satanic and demonic and jezebellic mission, mission to encourage the seekers of the truth to live in sin, lightning of YHVH Almighty will strike you down.

Cab, where are you going to run to?

Cab, where do you think will be safe for you? Cab, where will you hide from the wrath of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only God?

Cab, where will hide you when the heavens, the sun, the moon, the stars, thunder and lightning, the rain, the wind and the ground are against you?