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LegendsCoded:
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what's currently trending in Nigeria? web development. do what you love

they need a prototype before they give you the old database schema? If that's the case, focus on building the prototype for now. You can restructure the old database later to fit in or chunk out the data from the old database in a restful api client/server format. e.g ?action=getUsers should print out a json data for all the users from the old database in accordance to the new database schema which you can convert into objects and save in the new database.

LMAO! good one. less vulgar words like my friend always says one of the greatest qualities of a good programmer is humour.

yahoofak:
doesn't change the fact that you are a slowpoke.

ignore the kid. he is just frustrated.

pcguru1:
Exactly that's what caught my attention , Spring is just a framework around JavaEE , as I researched it when I was giving a task, he thinks Spring is the same as node when he should be comparing the JVM with NodeJS as NodeJS isn't the language but the environment. Its sad I tend to waste too much of time responding. I should be like codemaniac

I'm not arguing with you. I recommended nodejs for web development not jvm vs whatever. accept it! you invested in one technology and you find it hard to move on.

pcguru1:
This statement is wrong, sadly I can't back JavaEE or Spring because am not an Enterprise Java person, I work with codemaniac and he can give you more insights, Spring does a lot of Integration out of the box and its quite stable and strong, my knowledge is limited to building Portals and SPA, codemanianc has worked intensively with Spring and trust me, NodeJS can't handle what we do at work, Node works on only 1 CPU and its good for quick I/O operations , we've had needs to have multiple jobs running Java handles that, not sure about Node. Spring Framework is powerful the only reason am not a fan is memory usage, I'd rather invest in Golang. Spring is not dead from it, your excuse of XML is weird as Spring boot uses Java Configuration even for configuring beans, I can't remember when last ave had to do XML config, also Java supports every Database, especially the JDBC Template its database agnostic if you worked with it you would know, so am surprised why you cited that as an example, Java supports most db and has more open source tools (quality) than any platform I know. Am not a Java EE person yet I appreciate it. You need to read and research more. I'd takenup your argument if you mentioned Golang or Scala

check the previous posts, someone highlighted that spring boot is still new. nodejs supports multiple CPU, never used it though. https://nodejs.org/api/cluster.html

Desyner:
Since you aren't aware Spring support POJO as an alternative to XML you should have shut up but no, you even called it dead and didn't know spring is used for other platform asides web. I begged you subtly but you wouldn't listen.

I'm done with you. good luck

codeManiac:
Just when I thought people are wiser that fighting language/framework wars, another one starts again.
For the guy arguing spring's death, can you show us what you have done in your shiny new language/framework?

And I heard something like legacy??

Where do you think money comes in for the enterprise? node that barely understands its ecosystem?

Like I said, am not hear to fight language wars. But saying a framework is dead sounds too non technical IMHO.

Languages are tools to solve problems. Until you say a problem Spring cannot solve, hold thy peace!

every language has it's weakness and strength. you can't use one language/framework for everything. if you followed well, you would have seen that I recommended nodejs/php for web development. And my major issue with spring is the use of XML.

asalimpo:
Which multi threading does C support? Educate us. I maybe wrong. I know c as low level and very hands off.

I won't argue with you on this. I'm out. if you are interested in it > research

Desyner:
Thank you Sir. The guy na clown. People like them can't see a thread like this and behave themselves. He derailed a good thread just to reveal what he doesn't know.

I challenge you to be as good or even better than this clown. you have a long way to go

asalimpo:
for web development but not for ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT. There's a difference.

I didn't know. what's the difference? can you explain better?

Desyner:
ServerSide Web based OS? You are a novice liar I guess.

no! bro "Linux"

Desyner:
You føøled yourself on this thread man. You can only google stuff on the fly to overshadow novice not me.
Go and enjoy you "NodeJS framework".

I don't know what's wrong with most people these days, maybe you have been living a fake life online and you find it hard to believe. I'm a student and developer just like you. I research every day, I learn. And I'm more interested in operating system development. have a nice day.

Desyner:
God bless you sir. The guy didn't know jack about Spring. He just jumped in and started 'misyarning'. Imagine suggesting NodeJS, a JS engine in place of Spring, a framework.
It should be NodeJS vs JVM, but dude thought I was a newbie in programming he could google stuff on the fly to confuse.

nodejs runs on libuv which is written in C just like JVM. I wasn't comparing nodejs to spring as a framework, but an option for web development.

pcguru1:
Lol static classes usage on steroids not a fan

facades you mean? you don't have to use them. moreover, I'm not a fan of php frameworks. I prefer building from scratch with components as dependencies which are maintained using composer.

Desyner:
So you had nothing sensible against Spring all along!
Use of XML is not sensible excuse. Infact of the tutorial I come across I see them use Java Configuration approach more (I prefer XML).
As for the DB excuse, it is actually and advantage as you only have to choose one you like.
NodeJS isn't a framework and I see no reason for you jumping into the thread instinctively only to start googling stuff to post here.

lol! enjoy your spring abeg

pcguru1:
Spring Boot uses minimal XML intact it's only maven that uses XML, also Symfony in PHP falls into this as it uses heavy XML or yaml. Isn't Hibernate for all database

Yes, laravel eloquent in php also solved that.

Desyner:
Who wouldn't want something universal and solid ? Does C multithread like 'almighty' Java?
Security?

of course ! C supports multithreading

Desyner:
You tell me first why Spring is dead and I will tell you why Java or nothing for now for me.

use of XML and it lacks a universal database interface

Desyner:
NodeJS isn't even comparable to Spring because it isn't a framework. I hope that nodejs can match 'Spring' in multithreading, security, error handling, embedded systems use, platform support etc ?

C dominates the realm of embedded systems. it seems you are looking for something universal.

Desyner:
Please . . . 5 or 6 more positive comments before derailing further Sir. Spring is littered with alternatives and I need to hear opinion of forward thinking programmers.

Sorry, for being sarcastic. I already gave you options: nodejs or php for web development. I'm really curious, why does it have to be a Java framework ?

Desyner:
It explains you better. Please let the thread attract some 5 or 6 positive replies before introducing more baseless conclusions.

I said what I said :p

Desyner:
By "Nigerian Devs are wack" I mean the majority like you who criticize everything with no reason or logical argument.
I can bet you have nothing to show for all your show off here.

I don't have anything to show. so what?

Desyner:
No reason, just "Spring is dead" and you thinks it makes sense? This is why Nigerian devs are wack and hardly go far - I-too-know and crowd-mentality. No reason just conclusion.

Nigerian devs are whack but here you are looking for their help. happy coding with XML smells in spring.

Lwkm! is the intermediate category that hard � �

Desyner:
I didn't come here to argue blindly sir. Go do your homework and realize Spring is growing rapidly. Do you know what Dependency Injection (DI) is ? What else do you know about it that can guide/aid me ? That's what I came here to hear. Don't tell me there is absolutely nothing positive about you know.

almost every modern language for web development supports dependency injection. even php has composer, nodejs has npm. except for legacy projects, I won't recommend spring to anyone.