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Topshow4real: Na BROKE FAITHFUL guy go later turn RICH CHEAT jare. . . Na hin financial status dey make ham form FAITHFUL jor..THE SECOND TIME I AM SEEING THIS. OK CAN'T A RICH CHEAT TURN POOR CHEAT TOO? MAY BE LADIES WILL LIKE RICH CHEAT TURN POOR FAITHFULLY. ![]() |
Danhumprey: And all girls/women are what?I repent they are actually SAINTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ![]() |
Danhumprey: And all girls/women are what?cheatestesssssssssssssssssss ieh i don run b4 them break my head,ye my head oh them won break am oh help help egbami oh ![]() |
Leopantro: lol. i believe nobody is above making a mistake and efficiency in teamwork. when faced with a patient i can do the work of a nurse or a cleaner, i don't really care. it's the patient's return to proper health that is important to me. then i move to the next patient.speak no further, your penultimate post says it all you must be humble to a fault. i see you rising some day to the peak of your career and becoming a substantive CMD, DV.cheers! |
to pay back a deduction that was made from all staffs [/b]in that hospital that took 7 months to pay back. [b: sorry about that.oh know! i missed the trap . I wanted to test if you will take offense to justify that doctors are egoistic but you proved me wrong. This is a good incidence to confirm that some doctors are quite humble people. I made a mistake too in my choice of words but some doctors who saw it treated it as an ignorance instead of correcting me then i took offense to defend it even though i knew i was wrong. It was after that they started seeing it as an error. But at last i admitted my wrongs when one them spoke very reasonably. YOU ARE WELCOME SIR. |
Leopantro: sorry about that.oh know! i missed the trap. I wanted to test if you will take offense to justify that doctors are egoistic but you proved me wrong. This is a good incidence to confirm that some doctors are quite humble people. I made a mistake too in my choice of words but some doctors who saw it treated it as an ignorance instead of correcting me then i took offense to defend it even though i knew i was wrong. It was after that they started seeing it as an error. But at last i admitted my wrongs when one them spoke very reasonably. YOU ARE WELCOME SIR. |
Leopantro: okay, let me call you out here.@bolded staff sir not |
Quelme: please don't mind those overrated physicians.I am a pharm but u see i think everyone is important in the health system. The doctors have forgotten that they use drugs to treat patients or does their training include drug productions. If in the World today all pharms stop producing drugs, what alternative is left with the doctors to use? Herbs? when they are not native doctors. come to think of it if all us studies medicine and become doctors, who will be the other things including the patients. On a lighter note; if all patients should go on strike by refusing to go to the hospitals which is not possible medical doctors may become vet. doctors if that happens .that's to show that even the patients who don't work in the hospitals are equally important(least to say other health workers) because without them doctors won't treat animals/trees after all . please, lets respect other peoples professions while we all know our limits. sometimes i am tempted to pick up DE form and enroll for medicine because of the way our doctors are over-celebrated here as if other professions are not relevant. May be i will consider that option if all this hullabaloo continues ![]() |
armadeo: I see you like playing with words so here goes. Needless dissipating your energies fruitlessly, there is no need beating about the bush. ab initio i do know the context of the word usage was not ideal but you know what,on like others who tried to correct me with insolence you were about the only person who spoke from knowledge sharing and very reasonable. Even with my insistence though i knew i was wrong but you have not descended to expletives and i quite appreciate that. Thank you. I actually chose to escalate this argument when i saw that those trying to correct me from inception were merely trying to make a caricature of themselves and not me. This is especially with the insistence that i should explain the meaning of faulty/wrong prognosis. If they have said did you mean diagnosis? i would have concurred but they are making it sound as if i don't know the meaning of the word i used not that they are seeing it as a mistake or misused of words. one of them said i have no medical inclination and that the word was grammatically wrong. That was why i became exasperated and neck bent to defend the word and now they are all tired and not responding again. That is what you get when you try to correct people by mockery. Prognosis for all diseases are already known before hand once the disorder is identified.That is why it is pro>before and gnosis>knowing i.e before a disorder comes we know what the prognosis of that disorder will be. without running a test if you ask a doctor/pharmacist/an allied health worker to tell you the prognosis of mumps for example, he/she with a good knowledge of the disease etiology will be able to tell you because he/she already knows it. I am sure some Pharmacist on this platform knows that the context of that word usage is truly wrong but kept mute because those spotting the error are trying to be egoistic about it. In my view prognosis are standards like formularies and pharmacopeias were you can look for drug info so before any diagnosis is carried out the prognosis is already in place. It is when the doctor identifies the disorder that he can now link the signs and symptoms with the prognosis and then recommend the appropriate drugs. Truly there are no wrong/faulty prognosis unless one is giving the prognosis of disease A for disease B then it becomes wrong which still support my argument which is a fallacy. In all i thank you for being reasonable and for not seeing me as one who didn't know but one who made a wrong use of the word . |
centje: Below is a screenshot of your post which i quoted before you edited it and added the part in capital letters.ok i didn't see that. you are correct. |
centje: The letters in capital wasn't part of your post when i quoted it. You edited it. And that's why i decided to post again.i don't get you, pls show the post i edited which is different from the post you refer to in question. Are you trying to say i re-quoted you or i edited a post? which one sir? |
babat89: Diagnosis-which you meant to say- tells the CAUSE of a disease (bacterial, viral...) and what the disease is.ok why are the signs of a disease included in its prognosis? IN THIS CASE;The prognosis for an individual with varicella is good. The diseasse runs its course in 2 to 3weeks. complications may include secondary bacteria infections of the skin as a result of scratching open lesions, thrombocytopenia,arthritis,hepatitis and Reye's syndrome. Is it not to be able to identify the disorder and profer appropriate solution which includes drug prescriptions. I think you are looking at prognosis only from the point of its forecasting meaning. How about its meaning on the formation of opinion on its etiology which may equally be gotten wrong by a doctor. PLEASE ELUCIDATE. Again realising that without a diagnosis there cannot be a prognosis, how is it that i am out of context. With an end we can know the beginning of a thing. no bi so? |
babat89: You are d one acting out 'high shoulder and stiff necked syndrome' you make me laugh here. ok why are the signs of a disease included in its prognosis? IN THIS CASE;The prognosis for an individual with varicella is good. The diseasse runs its course in 2 to 3weeks. complications may include secondary bacteria infections of the skin as a result of scratching open lesions, thrombocytopenia,arthritis,hepatitis and Reye's syndrome. Is it not to be able to identify the disorder and profer appropriate solution which includes drug prescriptions. I think you are looking at prognosis only from the point of its forecasting meaning. How about its meaning on the formation of opinion on its etiology which may equally be gotten wrong by a doctor. PLEASE ELUCIDATE. Again realising that without a diagnosis there cannot be a prognosis, how is it that i am out of context. you guys just want to show off. |
centje: Quit courting circles, my dear. Learn and move on, this time...forward and in straight line.YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED ME. EXPLAIN THAT PROGNOSIS UP THERE DR CENTJE NOT COURTING CIRCLES. |
centje: yes, doctors makes mistakes, sometimes. Like pharmacists, Doctors are also humans. Just like a pharmacist can make mistakes so can a doctor.please read my post above and explain how it justifies your stance on this. ANYWAY THANKS FOR ADMITTING THAT DOCTORS CAN BE WRONG, THAT IS THE CRUX OF MY ARGUMENT BUT YOUR PEOPLE ONLY PICKED ON THE USE OF THE WORD PROGNOSIS IN TRYING TO RUBBISH MY STANCE ON THE POINT RAISED DUE TO ""HIGH SHOULDER SYNDROME" EQUAL TO EGO . CASE CLOSED. |
you are confusing me the more armadeo: before a prognosis can be considered a diagnosis MUST have been made so if a wrong diagnosis is made it follows that the prognosis following that would be wrong. however if a diagnosis is made then the prognosis is ALMOST a guarantee depending on what studies have shown.if you say there is no wrong prognosis, how come you said this [b]however if a diagnosis is wrong the prognosis for that particular patient as informed by the dr is also wrong. Is it a contradiction? Now look at this Varicella(chickenpox): The prognosis for an individual with varicella is good. The diseasse runs its course in 2 to 3weeks. complications may include secondary bacteria infections of the skin as a result of scratching open lesions, thrombocytopenia,arthritis,hepatitis and Reye's syndrome. Going by the above analogy, a doctor who fails to associate these signs with this disease even after diagnosis and gives a completely different medication has formed a wrong opinion with the disease in question. although some of these signs may be common with other diseases but where it is obvious that it is for this disease and the doctor gives very wrong opinion and gives medications based on his wrong opinion, do you say that is a correct prognosis? since you are saying there is nothing like wrong/faulty prognosis, can we also deduce from your comment that there is nothing like a correct prognosis ![]() |
babat89: My friend atimes its best to keep quiet instead of displaying ur level of ignorance.keep quiet on what? that doctors are right all the time. Thank God you said nobody knows it all. your definition of those words has not helped me in any way because i gave same before so spare yourself that deal. if a doctor says that the etiology of the development of a disease or illness like diphtheria was caused by varicella-zoster [/i]virus(vzu) whereas it was caused by [i]Cornebacteriun [i]diphtheriae [/i]is that a correct opinion about that disease and this may form the basis for his drug prescription. I want to know in my ignorance what mechanisms/procedures do doctors use to detect a wrong diagnosis and prognosis. Provide an answer if you know better. |
centje: sometimes, one may need to go back to refocus. Even the context where you used that word 'prognosis' is wrong. It would have died along the discussion but kept exposing your ignorance.it is not wrong. it's you doctor on this platform that are trying to cover the fact that sometimes you guys can be wrong. can there be a wrong prognosis without a wrong diagnosis? I asked that when a doctor says the development of a disease was caused by a virus whereas it was caused by a bacteria, does that represent a correct opinion? i want to know. none of you are seeing it from my point of view you are claiming i am ignorant because you felt doctors knows it all. i will make no further comment on this but be it known to all doctors that sometimes you guys can make mistakes and give wrong medications to your patients but for your egos you people will not admit it. That is the point i am making especially that the post that generated this argument condemned all pharmacist with one incidence that only God knows how true that they don't know their jobs. |
armadeo: JESUS CHRIST!!!! AGAIN?WHY ARE U EXCLAIMING JUST PLEASES EDUCATE ME AS A NOVICE PLS! |
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armadeo: Christ don't you ever learn. The issue here is not grammar but in relationship to the patient who is foremostI Agree with you on the no(2)meaning of prognosis. of prognosis but @bold can you explain prognosis from the no(1) meaning from the dictionary and i will be cleared. It means prognosis has two meanings.prognosis according to Batman medical dictionary is a prediction or forecast of the course or outcome of a disorder/disease/illness. Oxford advance learners dictionary (1)defines it as an opinion, based on medical experience of the likely development of a disease or illness;(2) the judgement about something is likely to develop in the future. please, what is the meaning of this phrase; THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DISEASE OR ILLNESS? |
armadeo: diagnosis and prognosis are different. there isI have said they are different in one of my post and do you also say there is also no wrong prognosis because you are bias , then disprove these synonyms of faulty ˈfɔːlti,ˈfɒlti/ adjective adjective: faulty; comparative adjective: faultier; superlative adjective: faultiest not working or made correctly; having defects. "a faulty brake" synonyms: malfunctioning, broken, damaged, defective, not working, not functioning, in disrepair, out of order, out of commission, inoperative, unsound, unusable, useless; More informalon the blink, on its last legs, kaput, bust, busted, conked out, acting/playing up, gone haywire, gone hut, done for, wonky, dud; informalknackered, duff; informalon the fritz "a faulty electric blanket" antonyms: working, functioning (of reasoning and other mental processes) mistaken or misleading because of flaws. "faulty logic" synonyms: defective, flawed, unsound, distorted, inaccurate, incorrect, erroneous, imprecise, fallacious, wrong; More impaired, weak, invalid "her logic is faulty" antonyms: sound having or displaying weaknesses. "her character was faulty" Translate faulty to Use over time for: faulty |
Circle-Of-Wilis:a wrong opinion formed/made by a doctor on the development of a disease or illness which forms his basis for drug prescriptions. |
infolekan: I'm sure you have also tried to google the word faulty prognosis and was surprised to discover that it is actually a wrong word.I am really surprise at the type of doctor you are and i also pity those patients at your mercy that is if you are even a doctor. Your post really shows that there are some idiots as doctors in the medical fields. People like you are one of the many consolations those who cannot study medicine have and that gives them the courage to proceed in studying such courses. I even thought you carried out an extensive findings on the word FAULTY PROGNOSIS before replying this post but i was wrong to see that you did not. There are a thousand and one places where such word were used in the internet. Get your facts right. what is the difference between a wrong prognosis and a faulty prognosis? that you consider it a wrong English, we don't need a professor of English language to know that this word is correct. I challenge you and your cohorts to subject it to a public opinion and lets see who is wrong here. Again, you won't tell me that a wrong opinion on the development of a diseases made by a doctor does not in its entirety amount to a faulty/wrong prognosis. If a disease development is caused by a virus and a doctor says it is caused by a bacteria, is that a correct opinion? What do you call that; a correct prognosis ? Numbskull .May God save our patients from doctors of your likes if at all you are one. where do I start from; prognosis according to Batman medical dictionary is a prediction or forecast of the course or outcome of a disorder/disease/illness. Oxford advance learners dictionary defines it as an opinion, based on medical experience of the likely development of a disease or illness; the judgement about something is likely to develop in the future. Diagnosis according to the same source is the process of identifying a disorder by examining its signs and symptoms;an identification of a disorder reached by such a process. Going by the above it is evidence that diagnosis leads to prognosis because a disorder is first identified before its effect/outcome can be predicted. for example, when patients tells you what they feel then you relate that to the signs and symptoms of a particular ailment/kinds of illness which helps you to identify the disorder during clerking. for further confirmation patients are sent to the laboratory. Now having identified the disorder, your ability as a doctor to relate the effects of the disorder or what lead to it is germane in knowing the type of medication to prescribe to either cure, treat/manage the patient. where a doctor forms a wrong opinion/gives a faulty prediction and then gives a wrong medication based on that amounts to a faulty/wrong prognosis. sometimes doctors give wrong opinion about an illness and then give prescriptions based on the wrong opinion. An instance is were a friend was told that an inflammation on a part of his body was likely going to lead to cancer and was booked for chemotherapy but on a second thought to visit another physician it was discovered that its an infection that lead to the inflammation. If a doctor cannot know the outcome of a disorder/it's effect, how can he identify the disorder after diagnosis. Now i want you, phantomi and your cohorts to disprove this argument;providing credible evidence that it is wrong. NL are taking note of the crop of some doctors we have in Nigeria. I do know that there are very good ones among you but i am also of the opinion that if an audit of doctors in Nigeria especially those in government health institution least to say private hospitals is carried out many of you will be weeded out of those institutions. you certainly need a "grammatical surgery" to say that the word FAULTY PROGNOSIS IS A WRONG ENGLISH LEAST TO SAY THAT IT HAS NO MEDICAL CORRELATION. I am an allied health worker. |
phantomm: and you are further making a fool of yourself...no offence. thats why he was laughing at you because you are throwing words around all in the bid to give an opinion. please what is "faulty prognosis" ? educate us since we are quacks....i am very sure you know but you claim you don't. Prognosis means: The forecast of the probable outcome or course of a disease; the patient's chance of 'recovery. Now when you guys predict what a patients disease condition may lead to and you give prescriptions to stop or cure it/ for what you consider is the cause of an ailment and it doesn't match the cure to that sickness, what do you call that? a guess work? Look my aunty went to UK with her medical report and the docttors there said she was wrongly diagnosed. These are some of the flaws of you guys.mind you diagnosis is not d same with prognosis but one is a link to d other. i do know there are a thousand and one reason why certain drugs may not produce results which may necessitate giving another but that in itself amounts to a guess work because the exact cause is not known and an exact cure/treatment is no given. |
infolekan: This up here is a very childish post from a seemingly matured adult.the comments of a nipper has no reply but to be silent would mean that he knows what he is saying whereas he doesn't know. I can see how intellectually stupid your namby-pamby is that you resort to frenzy. I thought matured adults are very reasonable to see that it takes a colossal effort to earn a degree from the university and very exacerbating to see another rubbishing that effort on unfounded ad hominem that one discipline is superior than another as you people(Dr's) always feel.why didn't pick up a second degree in yoruba,igbo,hausa or french and see how easy it is. If you guys think you are better than others why are you people taking courses from other departments in your formative years? one of you was quick to say doctors can do every other persons job forgetting that the ability to do that was premised on the knowledge he/she acquired from the ancillary medical fields/departments in the school. If you were not taught your paucity of knowledge in those areas will be worse than a novice. It's painful when people claim they are better than others or had more hard times than others yet some medical doctors actually failed some courses in those department they consider inferior today when they were in school. If they were that easy why did they fail? so my friend mind your language. No thanks to the free MB given to you courtesy of the telecom companies that gave you the gusto to write trash on this thread. |
Circle-Of-Wilis:If you are a doctor as i presume that u are one taking a lead from your stance on this matter and you don't know what a prognosis is and when it's wrong then it leaves much to be desired of you and calls to credibility the source of your certificate. visit MedicineNet.com |
otokx: No work no pay will not affect them, they are not lazy lecturers.the same lecturers who made u are lazy? hope u recalled in that ur good head that some doctors are also lecturers. |
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johnbosco97: Most pharmacists in teaching hospitals are not knowledgeable in their profession. I m a resident in O$G. One day in the antenatal clinic, I prescribed amoxycillin 500mg 3 times a day to a pregnant woman in early third trimester with urinary tract infection. The pharmacist on duty refused to dispense the medication claiming that the dose was too much for a pregnant woman. He came to the clinic before patients shouting that I want to kill the baby with my prescription. He was very bitter. I decided to engage him in academic discussion to know his level of knowledge. I asked him dose of amoxycillin in an adult patient ,the maximum daily dose of amoxycillin and the FDA class of the drug. He was unable to answer those questions . patients started laughing at him. A patient made a side comment that he is fool by thinking that he can engage a doctor in an academic discussion. He was embarrassed and left with bitterness. At the end, the drug was dispensed and patient came back to thank me. Lesson: most allied health workers are not knowledgeable enough to advice a doctor.Quite laughable but what do you have to say when some doctors give wrong medication to patients from their faulty prognosis ; an error eh? just that single incidence you gave God knows how true does not rubbish all the pharmacist,with your ambiguous fallacy of "MOST PHARMACIST IN TEACHING HOSPITAL ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THEIR FIELD" I have seen doctors committing real blunders in the hospitals. methinks the idea of not being knowledgeable in a field also cut across doctors too. |
dridowu: If you know your worth you will asked for it. It is only those that does not know their worth accept whatever is given to them.una really kno una worth but wen fasola trow way una. one wil tink u ppl wil just go home go stat una own job but u pple fot so hard to return especially sending all and sundry to help beg to return wen una see say fasho dont dey employ new doctors.ebi like say una no kno say plennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnty doctors dey outside wey they find this una work and are willing to take less and even wok better dan u pple. pauper and hungry doctors. NA GEJ DEY LUK UNA FACE WEY HIM NO POSHU UNA COMMOT TAKE BETTER PPLE 4 WORK BUT HIM GO DEY FEAR LIKE LEAVES because OF 2015. rubbish and garbage doctors. IF GEJ GET SENSE LET HIM STOP THEIR SALARY WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT AND CALL 4 FRESH RECRUITMENT HIM GO SEE AS HUNGER GO FINISH THEM.YEYE PPL |
did you note the remark below? Ola one: The same people they produced destroyed them. Abeg, leave torybut to their ignominy you are now a bed ridden of knowledge and a mockery of none existence schools in your days of glory. Adieu! adieu! |

??) and fails to get better does that mean the prognosis for chicken pox is wrong, NO!! because the chicken pox hasn't been managed as it should. where it properly managed the patient should have a good outcome (prognosis).