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ikupakuti:
@emekaRaj

Stop calling those con artistes sufi like those erratic leftists do. Tassawuf like every institution has its prerequisite conditions that one must meet to qualify as one. That someone hides behind a noble course to perpetuate his madness cannot disqualify its nobility.

If tassawuf is to be erased today those people will still continue their trade cos its got nothing to do with it initially. They only hide behind it in order to gain the trust & acceptance of a certain set of people.

You said magic has being practiced since time immemorial before the advent of islam which shows its got nothing to do with it talkless of tassawuf. Go to villages, you‘ll see bokas who dont know anything concerning islam talkless of tassawuf doing their thing.

And it exists in all religions, societies, even up till now meccans still have their idols intact in that city CONFIRM! & they still practice sihr, its all over the net.

Real muslims have being condeming bid‘a since before abdulwahab was born, so its not the wahabis that will come & tell us what bid‘a is. Inshort their weird approach to islam is the biggest threat/bid‘a of this religion in this era.

Atleast magic is clear & cannot be supported by the quran & sunnah but the fake ideology they introduced by manipulating quranic vs & hadiths is more deadly to the religion.

No real sufi will sell or advertise his spiritual prowess, so let call those people what they are & not sufi. We all claim boko haram/ISIS are not muslims cos they‘ve gone against the tenents of islam which is true, then why still call these deviants sufi when they‘ve clearly gone against what it stands for ?

Woow... So this is Wahabis vs who actually?

Kuti are u a sufi

BIDA'A MY OPINION

We have been quit critical of bida'a in this thread, and I think I should add my opinion to it
This is just my personal opinion. I think we should all criticize bida'a in Islam to the best of our knowledge, I knw that some pple hav taken it upon themselves to criticize and tag everything as bida'a. But nevertheless we should all try our best to lend our voices to it somtimes, because They do hav point sometimes, though wats bida'a and wats not bida'a is another argument for another day.

From my experience and what am seeing here in abuja this guys (perhaps sufist) are spoilin the name of Islam, what they are now doing is total magic and it's getting out of hand. And if you ask them whether this is nt magic and forbidden in Islam. One evidence they always quote is the story of sahaabah of the Prophet (p) communicating telepathically with each other. E.g. when Uthmaan (ra) – I think – was giving a khutba, then paused for a moment to warn another sahabah (who was in battle) that danger was threatening them from another direction. And when the Prophet (p) and his companions used to hear stones making dhikir of Allah(swt). These things, the “alfa” say, are achievable by man because the Sahabah (ra) and the Prophet (p) were all men – and teachers to be learnt from.

First of all, what is magic? Magic is the act of deceiving the eye to paint a picture of wats not real, using jinn, if am not mistaken.
Now this is exactly what they they do this days they use jinn's to perform diferent magic, they remove jinn from someone an then kip the jinn and be using them. They use jinn to travel to mecca different places an perform all sorts of magic, am talking about first hand experience oo. word in the street nt confirmed is that some of them even command jinn to enter pple so dat they bring them
as patients to them, because clients really pay heavy money here in abuja. or they tell u, u have 16 jinn in ur body. To double the nut. A friend of mine a girl told me she went to go an see one alfa, the guy now ask her to drop her nikab, when she drop it the nikab hang in the air and started talking (as in hijab was talking) saying all the girls problem. I couldn't believe it.

Then it happens to one of my sis, she has alfa that use to giv her nawafil and dua to do ooo, becouse she has been looking for second baby for some yrs now, one of her friends ginger her that she should forget all this dua, that she will take her to one strong mallam. she called me one day and she said, if I see the big sihr they remove from her house, I asked how, she said she brought one alfa, the man enter her room an started reciting all of a sudden a very big sihr just appear. The sihr is as big as Valley ball, the guy said this is wat they use to tie her womb, it was buried in our village bla bla , that the man recite again and the sihr became smaller an smaller .
I thought about it real hard, I have seen some of the best raqi, I have never seen where they recite and d sihr used will just appear in front of them, if anything that's the hardest thing in ruqya, most times they just pray to spoil the sihr wherever it is. So I ask my sister if she was in the room wen the sihr appeared she said no. I told her its a magic, that's what they do in abuja here. It's just an illusion there's no such sihr anywhere. She was argueing with me, perhaps because she paid 120k to him. She later found out when the man performs another magic.

As I heard this magic started during the regime of Prophet Suleiman, the agents of Satan used to stay on the sky in order to hear the discussions of angels to get know-how of the information about the future. That is they wanted to get secret information of the future including the time of death of a person and similar things. Then they inform the predictors about the information and their information proved correct with the passage of time. Due to this, the proposition became famous that Jinns have the knowledge of future. Hazrat Suleiman condemned this and announced that whoever claimed that the Jinns have the knowledge of future, he will be beheaded. Hazrat Suleiman dug a hole beneath his chair and put all the books having the knowledge of Jinns about future predictions in it. After the death of Hazrat Suleiman, Satan appeared with a human face an came to d Bani-Israil and told them about those books while telling them that Suleiman used to rule the world through these books. The people get over those books and started reading them. The lines of those books were magical words and thus the magic started again. After that the Holy Prophet (saw) came and ban magic it again.

We should always try to condemn it where it's spotted. So it won't sound like we condone it.
MAy Allah subhanawataala guide us all.

@ LadunaI
All of a sudden u r active
Have u been waiting to be mentioned to come back.
Anyway welcome back

Ok Oya now
Hav u seen this in the front page
https://www.nairaland.com/3789135/corpse-refused-buried-takes-villagers
Whats the possibility

ikupakuti:
Ok. But its not niyya. Its khutubah.

26th or 27th.

Oooh ok, but the Arabic should hav the vowels oo so that I will be able to read it. Am still struggling with the one u sent to me without vowels

Where's this ur student sef?
LadunaI

Kuti abeg help me translate that ikhlas I sent now.... I dnt understand the transliteration they use for the NIYYA.

Abeg just help me arrange am well, I want to do it b4 fasting an b4 that ur own

Wen be fasting sef

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ikupakuti:
^^^

This one strong gaaaan ni !

What I dont get is, is she a jinn or a re-incarnated witch or both ?

If its both, Since its from birth, her form & qareen have been compromised, also if “they“ used the loci of the stars to formulate the sorcery, entwining it with her destiny, my brother, forget it. E go hard gan. Its like trying to seperate the heat from fire, you‘ll end up losing the fire.

Dats wat I wish I could ask the jinn, I want to knw is it a witch, a jinn or Qareen jinn, tho am guessing Qareen. Becoz I doubt if ruqya will work on them.

@ empiree same thing in my tribe, my mum warned her several times to stop goin out 12 o clock in the afternoon, she hid the warning.
It's actually a gud lesson for her.

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ikupakuti:
It depends since they all have their peculiar nature but generally, ruhaniyyun & angels dont conform with sins & disregard to divine laws. So their condition are always of two kinds.

1- what will maintain the line of connection that you have already established with them (like them requesting that you must continue reciting certain amount of the same name/ayat/sura they serve (through which you connected with them), daily/weekly etc) & to avoid smelly substances etc failure of which you‘ll lose connection with them & their services to you would be suspended but you wont fall into any harm.

2- Commiting KABA‘IR- this type is what would make them harm you seriously. If one maintains connection with them & then indulges in zina, murder, alcohol etc they will render your limbs useless or destroy your wealth & its source.

Its only the jinns (devilish ones) that afflict with mental inbalance deliberately or out of fear. Those who run mad are those who go calling wild & dangerous jinns, the types that live far from human habitations. They come with wild & horrible forms. So, if you lose your mental composure & balance @ their sight, it will remain like that & also if you breach the weird agreement you made with them, inshort nobody go tell you not to try am sef

#Ruhaniyyas are not jinns or angels. Their native realm is from the 1st heaven to the 7th, the real angels native realm starts from above that, from the KURSIYY to AL-‘ARSH. They are created from off-shoots of substances emanating from the realm of the angels making them inferior to angels.

The term RUHANIYYA means SPIRITUAL (being) so, technically to we humans (gross in nature) the jinns, ruhaniyyun, angels are misconcieved as RUHANIYYUN interchangably, hence the confusion. And also, there are varieties of species of all the 3 classes depending on elemental & atomic configurations.

OK, I read that when a child is born, Allah will put rohanni (which is a holy spirit) in our body but becoz of sin we were never able to utilize it.
Which make sense wen u look at pple that can attain high spiritual level, they ar found in many religious practice dat practice purity, like Christianity, bhudaism, even those dat practice yoga.

Empiree:
From your #3 post shows that we have more unseen around us apart from Raqib and Atid (Kirama Katibeen) on our shoulders in addition to qarin. Plus ruhaniyun (which depends on levels of spirituality). According to my pap, ruhaniyun are second to malaikat (in rank). Sheikh Daud Alfa Nla same something similar, that ruhaniyun are malaika 'felefele' (light) usually parade waliy. Malaika wuwo(heavy) are for ambiya wali mursalin

Walahu Alam

My alfa and sheihks I know just call them Muslim jinn, In my own opinion I think they are probably higher version of jinn with higher spirituality.
Remember iblis was a jinn too but becouse of his level of worship, he was a able to mingle with the angels.
I do knw dat angels or ruh only serve and follow the command of Allah not human

Raintaker:
Glorification as in Subhanallah walhamdulilahi was LA ila ila lah Allahu Akbar right?

Yes.... WAstagfirlah wala haula wala kuwata ila billahi

ikupakuti:
You don dey fear ni ? What if I tell you I have stayed over 6 months while observing those conditions ? In short i cant count the number of times i‘ve observed those rules. All the experiences i‘ve being gisting of & the ones i‘ve not being gisting of, where did you think they came from ? Books ? Lols

Those are the conditions of khalwa (spiritual retreat) which is a necessary excercise in tassawuf but not necessarily to subdue the spiritual beings but to cleanse/purify the ruh to return to its original state as it were before it got infused into the body, in order to attain ma‘rifa. In a regular setting, you‘ll need 4 consequtive 40days (160days) in that condition to acheive that feat...but the spiritual light you‘d have acquired in the first 40, is enough to compel the obedience of the spiritual entities.

I doubt if you can seclude for 40days with those harsh conditions not on your life When you finish look inside mirror, na your ghost you go see

Haba Kuti I hav to be scared now, I got something for free, now all of a sudden I decided to jump ship, I hav to be worried, will it both be in harmony? Will the new one come an give me conditions. Is nt even about the food, at least if you hav tried it before u will Tell me dat dis is wat is going to come up, they gonna say this, this is going to be my reply. Etc

Issorai.... I hav small hope sha, nt because I hav gift but because I try to be pure. But when u put it down like dat u make it seem easy and I dnt want this guys to tink it's easy and go an try this tin, because I hav seen sombdy run mad, trying this.

Anyway would u categories ruhanniya as jinn's?

Raintaker:
Salam brothers, someone close has been losing money of recent (as in money just disappears from the bag)and these are not little sums.
Is there a prayer to find out who/what has been responsible for this?l, prevent it and also retrieve the lost money if possible?
Thanks

Perform 2 rakat in the night
After salam, recite glorification
Then recite kahf once
Recite kahf vs 21*( 177)
Ya baqir (177)
Then suplicate

None tested

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To those claiming to be humanitarians, philanthropists etc who are commited to selfless sacrifices for the development & progress of humans....thinking they are doing the right thing in their estimations....without IMAN, all their efforts are rendered useless & would not weighed nor benefit them on the last day.

The leftists have been twisting Quranic vs to suit their whims for long, no be today e start. [/quote]This is exactly what the verse means..... Eg bill gate them

ikupakuti:
You don dey envisage how your neck go take long

No consumption of any living things or whatever comes out of them, like milk, honey, deer musk, eggs, fat, fish, poultry, cray fish, crabs etc

Your food throughout are plants, seeds, grains, vegetables, etc. But if you want fast result stick to berley/wheat & vegetable oil (chin chin, pasta, plain bread ) 250g per day. If you maintain this condition for 40 days while engaging in dhikr of any type day & night (4hrs sleep) with constant ablution, your ruh would have aqcuired the power & status to compel the aerial potencies & you‘ll have the ruhaniyya reduced to your obedience.

@empiree, thats one problem with the ruhaniyya & angels, everything is always on conditions. They want you to be like them by force.

Mmmmm this ikupakuti sef, why u no do am and gist us ur experience, so we can learn from u

Tlake:
its becoming a big issue, Christians do not v dis problems much cos of different churches ,pentecostal wont attend cele or Catholic bt God united islam in a different way bt now everything is bid'a,in my mosque there's dix guy is sujud is abnormal,he stretches is body that his chest almost touches d ground..people tried to caution bt his adamant dat its sunnah..

i think d solution should be dialogue with calmness n respect for d religion instead of engaging in abusive words or fights. our sheiks are guilty of dix

There's certainly bida, but I hate when pple tag every Lil tin bida, an I think some of them ar just doing I too knw.
Nobody has Monopoly of knowledge. Them don turn judge for this world.

ikupakuti:
Of course, seclusion is needed for the perfection of such exercise, since you‘ll need maximum concentration but its not necessarily useless.

Nt just seclusion, not eatin meat, anything that has blood, etc

No wonder the Buddhist ar very strong spiritualy

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ikupakuti:
Yes, the toddles see them & the jinns antagonize them & make them cry, they see the angels also, everything up to the throne of God due to their simplicity, cos their ruh just got infused into their bodies, pure & stainless.

Which means if we humans can purity and become stainless, sky is d limit, i guess thats y most alfa stay in a room without going out, praying and fasting for few days.

Without this that stuff u gave me might just be useless.

Its probably his own experience his sharing, like Empire said, becoz he is a Muslim jinn.

The author interviewing him also disagree on some of the things he said, i just couldn't write everything.
Like the one he said a 2 yrs old toddler can see jinn. The author disagree, but i agree with the jinn on this one, i think i hav heard something like dat, that toddlers can see jinn

MARRIAGE AND MARRIED LIFE IN THE JINNS WORLD.

the age of maturity among the jiins is between 179- 180 years and 200 to 250 years. Pregnancy period is 15 month containing 7 and 8 babies and somtimes 15 babies. The nursing period is as long as human age. The babies sleep very long without any noise. Then they go to school and universities and become medical doctors, technicians, journalists etc. Like human beings.

According to kanjur Mixed marriage between humans and a jinni is impossible except if the jinni makes himself visible as human. Pregnancy is impossible as sperms and wombs of humans and jinn are diferent. therefore the story saying the Princess bilqis mother was a jinni is not true. (i dnt knw about this tho becoz i hav heard humans having babies in their world dnt knw how true)