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jesusjnr:
I don't know which angle you are coming from but I am coming from the angle of Jesus my Master, for after the fall of man in the beginning, a lot of things got spoilt and damaged that the original intentions of God, such as in the instance of marriage were being laid aside because of the hardness of the heart of men to follow the original intentions of God from the beginning when He first made man and woman.

So even though it wasn't God's original Intentions, God had to manage a lot of things and let men get away with a lot of things so as to limit the damage for something was better than nothing.

And that was how things were until God had the opportunity of bringing back the original standard that He intended for man in the beginning via His only begotten Son Jesus, and that was the basis of the instructions that He gave such as that concerning marriage where He said:

...Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Matthew 19:4-6 (KJV)

And said again:

...Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
...Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. Matthew 19:8-9(KJV)

So you always hear Him make reference to what God originally intended when He first made man in the beginning, because that was what He came to restore.

So if you like you follow His instructions, if you like you don't, but what I know is that all those people that you want to cite as example to justify your position of marrying many wives and concubines and so on, none of them would be able to give you salvation for your soul but Jesus.

Conclusion: Sex was intended by God for only married couples of husband and wife who have hence become one flesh.

So what God has joined together, let no man abuse or put asunder.

The TRUTH has been spoken here. Let him who have an ear hear.

paxonel:
John 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

This means, children of several fathers but from one woman(woman who is married to two or more men) were children born of fornication.(children produced from a union called fornication)

This is quite laughable. So a child can be impregnated by more than one man?

Pls stop misinterpreting scriptures. That is not what Jn 8 : 41 says. God never had sex with any woman to produce the Pharisees. What it says is Spiritual parentage. Na wa for you.

quote author=paxonel post=75479438]
Now, how do we know that the several fathers of these children sleeping with this one woman to produce these children are related(that is,they could be brothers or one is father and the other man is his son)?[/quote]What nonsense is this?


quote author=paxonel post=75479438]
Read this :

1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

So, fornication is a man sleeping with his fathers wife or two brothers having one woman to bear children (In summary, a woman cheating her husband with his close related person to bear children)[/quote]Hahahahahahahaha. You have a problem giving a defination of fornication.
First, it was a woman with many men, now is a man sleeping with his father's wife.

Boy, stop missquoting scriptures. It is a grave sin to falsify Scriptures; this is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

Fornication is Singles having sex.

kimco:
it actually turns out that adultery can only be commit by the woman. the adulterous woman who was dragged out by the men to stone her, why did dey not attack the man too? he was married therefore could not commit adultery...he was free to marry lots more if he cud afford. he could add to his households concubines if he so wanted. therefore the law didnt include men. we must keep in mind dat Israel regarded women as 3rd class citizens, so such laws are not surprising. today its been twisted to fit the agenda of some others.

Why then did the men who brought her out not stone her?

And, when the Lord said 'If you look at a woman to lust after her in your mind, you have committed adultery', was He refering to women or men? Lol.

kimco:
the bolded is very wrong. men had multiple wives and concubines during the biblical days.

Have you come by 'From the beginning it was not so?'. Do you know when man began disobeying God's laws?

For this reason 'a' man (singular), leave 'his' (singular) family and be joined to 'his' (singular) 'wife' (singular), and they both shall become One Flesh (singular).

They'll become Distinguishably One. Meaning you can distinguish them but cannot divide them.
This arrangement cannot fit more than two people.

jcross19:
and my point is, some customs don't take pride price what are you going to say about that?

And those customs are Bible based?

Are you talking as a Christian or as a secular person?

jcross19:
Christians can't just exists without being part of a certain tribe,race or nation and this have an impact in their moral standard even Israel have their own tradition. you are the stale bro. fanaticism can't help you.

Do you realize that Christianity is a Kingdom which has it's rules and ethics? That you a Christian living in Afghanistan, doesn't mean you shd do what the Afghans do. You look into your ethical manual (The Bible), and do as it says.

If the Bible says you do not marry a non-Christian, you do not marry a non-Christian.

Elthugnificent:
It is not pre-marital sex if you don't intend to get married in the first place.

Even if you intend to get married, it is premarital sex if you do it before a formal exchange is done by the families.

paxonel:
you are truthful,

The part of the world that is making bride price compulsary for marriage to commence are the ones complicating issues especially when the lady is marrying a poor man who cannot afford the bride price.

I have a friend who is pregnant now, the guy who impregnated her is so poor, his income is nothing to go. But he has taken this girl to the apartment he inherited from his late daddy and they have started life a long time ago.
Assuming the girls parents were insisting that this poor guy must pay bride price that means the girls life would have been more miserable with her pregnancy?

Religion and the society and their laws can be very wrong sometimes

And this came from a Christian.

paxonel:
ok,

What is fornication?

How is fornication different from adultery?

This doesn't sound like a question a Christian shd ask.
Fornication is having sexual intercourse with a partner you are not married to. Adultery is having sexual intercourse with another married person's partner.


Fornication = unmarried Singles having sex.

Adultery = Married people having sex outside their marriage.

Spin it anyhow you want, the truth remains valid.

jcross19:
devil have been existing over billions of years still they could not do anything to him but continue sending people to hell. according to UN over 100billions souls have died since the creation of this earth where would their soul be.

What? Who could not do anything to the Devil?

You mean God is powerless to punish satan? Well, bros, saran has already been sentenced. He was judged and cast out of heaven, and he is counting down time when he will be cast into hellfire.

Except you don't believe in the Bible, but if you do, you know that Jesus says there's a world of the departed spirits who await resurrection.

I'm shocked that a Christian will rather quote the UN than the Bible.

Are you a Christian?

jcross19:
Americans are they not Christians too?

What does the Bible say shd be done?

jcross19:
that only work here in Nigeria I don't know other places but in general parents consent is needed if not you are committing stealing as well but some places like UK and us such thing like pride price is not existing there so are we going to say that they are committing fornication?

I thought this was a Religious discussion? Is jt abt what optains in the world or what YHWH who instituted marriage says?

Pls answer me, how shd Christians do marriage?

Ishilove:
I don't care enough about you to hate you so shut it.

Now, carry your bullshit out of this thread! I'm mourning my dog

Sorry about your dog my dear Ishi.

superhumanist:
If you didnt insult, why were you banned?

Please, let us not derail your friend's thread. She is depressed about her dog. Thanks

Post my insults to your family? Ishilove is mourning her dog, that doesn't mean she is depressed. She is not an atheist.

superhumanist:
First of all, my deepest condolences to you upon the passing of your dog. Dogs can be real loyal family members.

However, I must take exception to your comment about "love and humans imprisoning themselves behind walls of hatred". You have accused me falsely of being someone else, supported someone who abused my family and insulted me. It is easy to talk about love but it is another thing to truly love.

Thankfully, the person who you supported (Emmanystone) in her abuse for me and my family has been banned. I hope this is a lesson for both of you.

I would ask you to practice what you preach because your comments point away from love.

Good day.

I insulted your family? What do i know about your family to insult it?

You must think yourself as important for me to spent my time on. I was banned, but i'm here now.

Depressed cry baby, cry out of here, you don't matter

Dantedasz:
A lot more than you apparently.

So, teach it and live it. Take your eyes off me. We are not given the same ministries.

If you think that lying against people when the Word says 'Thou shall not bare false witness against thy brother', is doing God's Will, then congratulations.


You and i are not in competition for anything.


You opened a thread full of lies to malign and assassinate 4everGod's character. You thought everyone here is as lazy as some of you are so won't read to the end to find out the truth. Dantedasz, i am not lazy, i read to the end and found out you lied.

Remember i told and Lepasharon that i'd apologize if i indeed discover you guys were right? But after i had finished reading and discovered you lied. I called you guys out, you shut up and didn't respond to me.

That indeed is a Cbristian character.

Clap for yourself. Let me repeat what i said then


You will lied against. You have sown this seed, you shall reap it.

ollah2:
No, but I watched you took yours. You so much enjoyed it that, your face and body was covered with it, then you instructed your wife to use it to cook for the family. Enjoy the camel pissed meal with your family.

Shalom!

No muslim, Christ didn't command us to drink Camel piss, dats for you Muslims. Poor guy believes everyone is as dirty as a Muslim

superhumanist:
Since you cannot calm down as I have begged you to, I have to involve the mods.


Cc mynd44, lalasticlala, ishilove.

Na only this ones you invite? Invite satan your master and i will crush both you and him together.

Dantedasz:
Haaa!
Why now?
This is not like Christ at all.

What is not like Christ? What do you know about Christ?

DelusionKiller:
I've noticed you react this way whenever 4evergod's issue is being discussed. you get childish and petulant like it really gets to you then mask it with insults and curses. I remember you advocating for people to give their names to Babalawo for this same 4evergod issue. All these lend credibility to the theory that you're in league with him or know him personally

DelusionKiller, cowards repulse me. Why didn't you use the moniker i know? Why hide under an Alt? And if am in league with him, what can you do about it? If i know him personally, what can you do to me? Get this straight, all you can do is hide under a moniker and talk stupid, if you are given a chance to stand before me, you won't have the guts to be as stupid as you are online.

DelusionKiller:
He's been caught viewing threads of his accusations, he said nothing but kept viewing time and again. he then deactivated his monickers so he doesn't make the mistake of being caught viewing threads again

Why didn't you do anything about it since you are a man and not a mere male?

DelusionKiller:
He refused to defend himself but relies on you to do all the defending, throw invectives and curses for his sake just like your God relies on you to

He refused to defend himself to you? Who the hell are you to demand that a man who can comfortably house you, feed you and pay your tuition shd defend himself before? Have you started paying your own bills?

Why are concerned about curses? Are they effective?

Anyone who hates life should not live. If long life and growing old is a curse, then may you die young so that you won't grow old like me who love long life.

DelusionKiller:
Unless its true that you actually do know this guy personally and are in league with him somehow (perhaps not scamming league) you're better off ignoring his issues whenever its brought up cuz all you do with all these tantrums is lend credibility to the theory that you benefited from his scamming

Noise maker. I will do whatever i like, how ever i like it. Not you or anyone in your entire miserable life can tell me what to do or who to support or defend. What is your business with if or not i know 4everGod personally? I be your sister? You no get sister to care about? Guy, shift.

DelusionKiller:
That no other discussion drives you to the edge like 4evergod is absolutely telling, maybe you have a crush on him or sump'n or maybe you're in league with him or you know him personally because there's no way you're doing all these just because he's "One of us". Its almost as if you feel he's still on Nairaland and you're trying to prove your loyalty to him

E no concern you. I no be your sister. I no from the village with you. Mind your useless business.
If he is still in Nairaland what will you do about it?

Talkers with loud mouths but no guts.

don't quote me, I won't reply

Deuces[/quote]Gerarahia.

ollah2:
Yee, super human. Kingkakaone

Have you taken your daily dose of Camel's piss today?

proudkafir:
Yes they are human who follow the sunnah of a 7th century Arabian illiterate and unlettered man who usually exhibit some psychopathic behaviours.

Oh, the same one who told them to drink Camel's Urine instead of Beverage beer?

Zoharariel:
My concubine. You're on point.

Hahahahahahahaha. Ishilove don suffer.

Jaqweshia:
I will like to bring your attention to the unbelivable rude attitude of a instagram slimming coffee seller Temi Ologitere in Nigeria. located at Raybok Mall: 5 Adelowo Adedeji Street off Admiralty Way Lekki. Lagos. They sell Slim Lite Coffee, their number is 08166703867, 08077500653, 09060002268 and their username on Instagram is @lose_kilos https://www.instagram.com/lose_kilos

I made payment of N 121,200 on the 3rd of May 2018 and asked for the coffee to be delivered to an address in Lagos. I was told delivery within lagos (As they are based in Lekki Lagos) takes 1 - 2 days maximum. I had purchased other items from other sellers and my items were all already to be dispatch abroad but the the coffee was yet to be delivered. My cargo leaves once a week. Every Tuesday and i told them to be ensure the coffee was delivered on time, So that my cargo can be dispatched on Tuesday.

The Coffee didnt arrive before the following tuesday and i contacted them to ask about the whereabout of the coffee? They said they had already dispatch it to the address i gave them in Lagos. I asked for tracking details. They sent tracking details to me on Wednesday, which showed that the coffee was dispatched on Tuesday evening after 6.00 pm.

My cargo couldnt be posted to me as items purchased were yet to be complete and had to be cancelled and rescheduled for the following week. As a result of this, I got upset and contacted them saying A one year old toddler would have crawled from Lekki and delivered at Ikorodu Lagos since last week. That where are the items i ordered. She kept saying she will contact customer services and get back to you, She never got back to me. I repeatedly asked for my refund, she refused to refund me.

The coffee was finally delivered yesterday 14 May 2018. It took 11 days for delivery within Lagos
She apologised and i forgot about it
Then she started to throw insults in an extremely rude manner and i simply returned the insults back. when she couldn't take the heat anymore. She became a coward and blocked me on whatsapp.

The name of the arrogant warri lady, frustated, daft Slim lite coffee owner ceo is Temi Ologitere
Kindly see screenshots below


Update: Items paid for arrived incomplete. 1 coffee and 1 tea which cost N14,700 missing. only 14 coffee was delivered
Message has been sent to seller and she ignored it
Not like a refund was expected because its a BULLSHIT COMPANY and a Fraudulent company

Okay, i'm sorry for the unconvinces this may have caused you, but this is not enough reason to call people to beware of them. I'd expected to read that the product is substandard or outrightly bad. And you even went further to post their detailed info here. That is soo wrong. Pls take this thread down. What happened to you could've happened even in the country you are based abroad.

ollah2:
Na now you know them. When it suits their narrative then it's a welcome development but hell would let loose if same was done by a Muslim

Are muslims humans?

Takeproft:
Height of stupidity. And some people will submit themselves.

You are importent right?

delishpot:
Yes. Men and women who have no ability to consumate their marriage and in some instances who even have had accidents or are naturally born with next to no sexual organs. Why is it cool and fun to call out women and their mischief but then when men are called out tbe person is tagged a threatened person? I am sure if I had said women are whores and the church should do even more to expose them; you would have agreed and shared my post. Hahaha. Anyhoe, you memtioned where I said the test is not for virginity but to check if sex can be performed. That was your first mention and I wonder why you picked on that one and why you think women with vagonas as wide as river niger should fear the test. Once again .... it is mot a test to see how sexially active the intending couples were in the past!!!
. Many men are impotent and they hid this info from their wives until the wedding night. Some are not sexual at all but just do it once and thats all. The church is tired of the complains and seek to address the issue . I was a redeemed member and I support the move. If it hurts you that I called out men.... then you will be hurt for a long time because I still stand by my words.

Be weary of men who are firmly opposed to this. It'll be a far cry if this happens to some distant fellow whom you just read about, but if it happens close to home, the story will be different.

My Aunty who had served God committedly, kept herself for that man, only for one lair who had no peni.s at all, but been hiding in church for years not married giving excuses of 'Very few sisters are truly born again', cornered her. She was excited thinking her prayer had been answered. Mature sisters make that mistake. becos they see one brother inside Church, and they had waited for so.long, they don't take the man to God in prayer for check up. She married the man.

The first night after wedding, he slept with his jean well belted. He was too fatigued, even when he didn't nothing to be tired from. The next night, he was upset over what my Aunty knew nothing about, so, no sex. The situation between them became very unpredictable as she didn't know what to do to make him happy. Days after wedding, he packed his bag and off to Port Harcourt he went, with the excuse of looking for a job now that he was married

2 months passed, no husband. She was yet to consumate her marraige. She travelled to Port Harcourt to at least see him. He refused for her to spend the night where he stayed, excuse? He was living with a Pastor friend, who jointly officiated in his marriage. He said it wasn't respectful. She left and slept in my house.

After more than a year, no job, no money for her, no sex yet, he returned to her still wearing jean to sleep. She didn't tell anyone that she had not had sex with her husband yet.

One night, she went wild, 'It's either you remove this jean or i shall tear it with a knife', after much struggle, when he discovered this woman won't give up, he gave in and began shedding crocodile tears. He explained how all the animals went to the moon to visit God, and the crafty tortoise did this and that. Cock and Bull stories. Finally she discovered she was in for a lonnggg thing.

She took to prayers for peni.s restoration without letting anyone in the family know. 9yrs went by, she was praying, no peni s. 9yrs his family were expecting a Child. When they ask him, he will point to his wife. She was called a man, dry wood, barran goat behind her back until a friend heard it from the family that her husbabd was the one asking them to put his wife in prayers so that she could conceive, she asked why she kept the fact that couldn't conceive a secret for 9yrs? She went wild, confronted the man, but instead of talking about it, he moved out of the house and ended the marriage. She was forced to tell everyone that it's been 9yrs she'd been sharing a bed with a man she never had sex with not even for once.

This is what women go through. But if she was the one with the problem, the man can sleep with her close friend and everyone will support him.

AlanSugar:
And what should happen to those supposed "lackeys", they should leave the church (since the church will never wed them) or go hang abi? If the church is truly what it should be, act on and believe in the power of prayers, why can't they pray over it? Oh I forgot, Rccg is a business institution and the head does not believe in the power of God. Now we know them and what they stand for.

Hmmm. But, if the brother knows he has that problem, why not go for counselling and prayer first, get restored before marrying?

Oga, it's easy to criticize since it doesn't affect you directly. Many important or sterile men are hiding in Churches which insists 'No Sex before marriage', Couching like predators, monitoring committed sisters who will not think of divorce after marriage to corner into marriage.

It's evil for a man who knows he is deficient to lie both to the Church and the sister and them marry her only for her to discover that all her years of waiting will never end.

Marriage is till death do them part oo.

I hope you'd like to marry an ex-prostitute who has had her ovaries removed but didn't tell you until after marriage? I hope you'd stay with her like that without your own blood children even when you are very healthy to have kids? At least you'd have sex and hold her hands in prayer for another womb to be given her?

Becareful for what you support.

stableprice:
The Glorious awaited centuries rapture Already occoured

The concept of rapture is only an illusion or idea to establish fear in the minds of the people's

simply put. this world must teach the Peoples in the presence of fear.

I didn't tell you o

What have you now said?

Ronpet777:
Hahahahahahahaha! U missed d big part. Not everything will wait till judgement day. I wasn't talking abt God being unfair or bias. My point is that there is full force attack on the believers by demons and their cohorts here on earth when we derail from God's path.

My friend, let's not over flog this. I can see u study d Bible on ur own without any spiritual interpretation. The Bible is like literature to u. If not, u will knw that every believer is on a warfare on earth from forces of evil and demons. Being in Christ is our immunity.

I will conclude this argument with these verses from the Bible. Let anyone with basic interpretation skill interpret it and see Wot d Bible is saying about spiritual attacks that abound on earth for any believer who doesn't stand firm, and hold strong to his faith through righteousness and prayers.

Ephesians 6:10-18 'Finally, build up your strength in union with the Lord and by means of his mighty power.

11) Put on all the armour that God give you, so that you will be able to stand up AGAINST THE DEVIL'S EVIL TRICKS.

12) For we are not fighting against human beings but against the wicked SPIRITUAL forces in the heavenly world, the rulers, authorities, and cosmic powers of this dark age.

13) So put on God's armour now! Then when the evil day cones, you will be bale to resist the enemy's attacks: and after fighting to the end, you will still hold your ground.

14) So stand ready with truth as a belt tight around ur waist, with righteousness as your breastplate,

15) and as ur shoes the readiness to announce the Good News of peace.

16) At all times carry faith as a shield : for with it you will be able to put out the burning arrows shot by the EVIL ONE.

17) And accept salvation as an helmet, and the word of God as the sword which the spirit gives you.

18) Do all this in prayer, asking for God's help. Pray on every occasion, as the spirit leads. For this reason keep alert and never give up:pray always for God's people.

If after these, u still don't believe the world is a battle ground ,and that we must take conscious steps to put on the whole armour in order to combat the evil forces, brother, u r on ur own. And I will doubt if u r a true Christian. I rest my case finally!


Emmanystone, come see a fellow believers' ideology o. Wot do u see to this o.

He is not a believer, he is Jehovah's Witness.