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gideonite98:
You're the one that needs to shut that thing you call mouth up.I thought your eyes were working perfectly but now I see they are not because if they happen to be working you would have read it in the text that they refused to sell it to the organization with higher offer but decided to sell it to the mosque.

you still don't make sense. What you said doesn't refute the fact that they sold the Church bcuz they lost their congregation to Muslims (church members reverted to Islam) and they also had low turn up by Christians. So, ofcourse they should sell the building to believers in God rather than disco party etc. I have prayed at the mosque twice some 3 yrs ago and it is currently going through expansion. It is not that the church is broke. They simply had low congregation and top members gave up CHRISTIANITY. You think say I don't know the place?

gideonite98:
Christians have the highest level of religion tolerance and they mostly want peace.

I hope someone can tell Islamic jihadists and terrorists to start doing what they say their religion is all about
"Islam is a religion of peace"
But people are getting beheaded everyday by the so called Islamic terrorists

Guy, shut up. They sold the church because there was no more attendance or the church barely received 5 congregation. They lost the game. They would not have sold it if they had many congregation. The mosque is there for few yrs now. It is not recent. What they are doing now is expansion. I seen them on Facebook all the time.

salbis:
One can say whatever they like, genuine Christianity is matchless.

they don't exist in Nigeria.

Best comment here. NL audience are bunch of bigots.

OyinO 86111942: Dumb comment. Don't connect this act to Buhari. In fact, if Buhari does a good thing, must you use something negative that happened under his regime to castigate and insult him, and thus declare his good works and positive impacts null and void? If he does something positive and beneficial to Nigeria and Nigerians, we should still go ahead to insult and lambast him? Is that what you want? Is it because he's a Muslim President? Religious sentiments at work! There was Book Harm before Buhari. Dumb Nigerians, go and browse who the true sponsors of Book Haram are.
Why don't you blame her religious faith that placed her in this critical irredeemable condition? Blame all the greedy CAN, PFN and Daddy GOs plus their empty Men of God who kept releasing empty judgement upon Book Harm for abducting the poor little gal. Blame them for not seeing the future that the girl would be impregnated. So they organised INTERDENOMINATIONAL NATIONWIDE FASTING AND PRAYERS in vain and gave vain hope to dumb Christian worshippers across Nigeria. Blame them because they deceived the dumb Christians. They even gave ultimatums of 7 days, 40 days declaration for her release. Blame the fake Prayer Warriors. Warriors that will scamper and disappear, faint and die at the blast of mere thunderflash. Fake warriors that have never prayed anything into existence in Nigeria. They sentenced Book Harm leader to death from the highest throne of empty myths and legends. Today, they have been proved wrong and declared fools. Where are these Daddy GOs milking the dumb efulefus? They walk about with tight security outfits but give you blessed waters, stickers and bangles for divine protection? And you're mentally okay?
This sad story of Leah Sharibu should be a time to reflect your brainwashed existence as Africans. The colonialists and imperialists who invaded Africa and imposed these religions on you ARE NO LONGER PRACTISING THESE VAIN RELIGIONS. They have succeeded in deceiving and trapping you in a matrix system of eternal vanity, setback, subjugation, subjection, submission and exploitation while they advance science and technologies to dominate and control you forever.
Buhari will come and go, but Book Harm will remain. Then you'll start blaiming the new leader as you did to PGEJ. Arabs and Western forces are the ones sponsoring these insurgents and insurgencies to keep Africa plunging and nose-diving into the abyss of eternal setback, crisis, destruction, violence, instability, TERROR, wanton loses, division and eternal hatred. All what the Africans need to do is simply drop these religions of Islam and Christianity because they are installed to destroy Africa by Africans. Even Book Harm is fighting a Western and Arabic cause, and not an African cause. Shame on all Christian and Muslim Africans!

Citytrend:
Such an unfortunate theory. May the remaining days of this Dude on earth be filled with sorrow. And may he suffer a thousand times of whatever emotional truama this innocent girl is going through

I'm just concerned why you are cursing your enemies. The Bible teaches you to love your enemies. Why are you curse book Haram?. Have you forgotten this Matthew 5:44 ?

agulion:
Islam can not trive without terrorism. Infact Islam is more dangerous than this new virus in China. May God have mercy on the little girl

but your pastors have so much miracles and they can't rescue this girl from those bastards?. You don't need to worry about Islam.

This is a proof that all your pastors in Nigeria and those White evangelists miracle workers like recent dead German evangelists are all fake. Fake men of God. Fake miracles. If Adeboye, Oyedepo, TB Joshua and host of others are true men of God they need to enter sambisa with their fake Bibles and fake miracles instead of screaming at the top of their lungs in their comfort zones at BH

advocatejare:
Jesus knew where he was going, Muhammad didn't. Jesus preached holiness, Muhammad didn't. Muhammad said you can keep on committing sins that you will enter his filthy paradise as long as your good deeds is more than your bad deeds, Jesus promised a holy heaven, and that no evildoers or sinners will enter. Muhammad said his own heaven is sex party. Jesus said the Heaven inhabited by the Holy Yahweh is a holy one where no sinful activities will take place.

You're here comparing a sinless man with a miserable demon possessed man that died on the top of a woman in active service.

okay, I have humbled you quiet right. It is obvious you have no real counter argument. You are speaking now without proofs.

I have no reason to engage you further because I have presented evidences from your Bible and our Qur'an but your lack of intellectual argument is a prove that you have lost this. My advice to you is, please ponder on Nehemiah 8 verses 4 to 6 because this is evidence against you.

Have a nice day buddy.

advocatejare:
That was Jesus highlighting the fact that if you call him Lord and you still engage in evil, you won't enter the Heavens inhabited by him and the Holy God, it's only your filthy paradise where there will be orgies that will accommodate evil doers

See how I humbled you. Before, you sounded like Jesus will make you enter Heaven no matter what. Now that you understood this, this is exactly what ayah of Quran and hadith you quoted are saying. That, prophet muhammad (SAW) can not help you. You must first help yourself by having correct faith (islam) and righteous conduct. Only then he will be able to intercede for good muslims. So when you said "Muhammad said he can not help you" it means you deceived yourself.

advocatejare:
It's like you're asking me to show you the Hadith written by Muhammad.

Or show me the book written by Allah.


Your Hadiths will say "as narrated by... "
That's the same way the Gospel Jesus preached was narrated by his disciples

Show me the Hadith written by Muhammad and I will show the Gospel written by Jesus.

Did Muhammad write any book or did your Allah write any book?

See how you failed?. You failed woefully. Quran was documented in the lifetime of prophet muhammad(SAW) and compiled. Hadith was written after him so he is not the author of hadith and he is not author of Quran but he received Quran and was documented in his presence and reviewed it numerous times. It is true that hadith is narration as you rightly said which is clear. Now, reality is that something narrated by someone from someone can never ever be 100% accurate all the time. This is exactly what bible (gospel of Mark, Luke, Matthew and John) is but Quran is not. Quran is 100%. So yes, prophet muhammad did not author hadith

advocatejare:
Legislated by who? Show me the proof that Allah legislated it, show me from the Book written by Allah and not from the book dictated by a jinn whom you erroneously call Gabriel.

Show me direct word from Allah, not through an intermediary, where salat was legislated

Guy, SALAT legislated in your Bible exactly or almost exactly the way muslims pray salat. Let me take you to the Book of Nehemiah 8:4-6

And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam

And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:

And Ezra blessed the Lord, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the Lord with their faces to the ground.


To better understand this SALAT mentioned in this Bible verses, I have posted short video for better understanding below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagXsAg5jTE

You may watch the full version in the video below from 13-16 mins or better still, watch the entire debate with your open heart


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHnZoXF2yY


Now watch this muslim SALAT and compared to Nehemiah 8 vs 4-6

http://news-af.feednews.com/news/detail/6614462e7e408f902814c88cadc65079?country=ng&language=en&share=1&client=

advocatejare:
Gospel means "Goodnews" Gospel according to John simply means "The Goodnews Jesus preached as reported by John"

It was the illiterate Muhammad that messed up your brains by lying to you that Jesus brought a book called Gospel. Gospel is not a book brought by Jesus, gospel is the Goodnews of salvation preached by Jesus which was later compiled into a book by his disciples

Stop wasting your time. Where is Gospel according to Jesus?

advocatejare:
Imagine the foolish question you're asking me, do I pray SALAT? Salat/Solat is the Arabic word for prayer, and you're asking me if I pray prayer?

I see. There is no need for me to be waste my time with you. Salat was legislated and it had format from the time of Abraham to Muhammad(PBUT). What you christians are doing today is not SALAT(prayers) but praises. SALAT is worship and it is specific format. Praises come anytime and anywhere. Sujud is Worship.

advocatejare:

John speaking indeed.

That was John quoting Jesus.

Oh using the same analogy, any words spoken in Sura Baqara was spoken by a cow abi, since the meaning of that Sura is Cow?

John quoting Jesus?. John that never met Jesus?. you confused?. Christians say "Gospel according to John. How's he quoting Jesus?

advocatejare:
On the other hand, Muhammad was clueless of where he was going. He admitted to be fake and he said he didn't know what will be done to him or to you his followers.


قُلْ مَا كُنْتُ بِدْعًا مِّنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَآ أَدْرِى مَا يُفْعَلُ بِى وَلَا بِكُمْ  ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحٰىٓ إِلَىَّ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ مُّبِينٌ
"Say, I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
(QS. Al-Ahqaf 46: Verse 9)

Muhammad was not sure of his salvation even at the point of his death and he was begging Allah the fallen angel to meet the companion in the Hellfire, he later died miserably while having sex and you his followers will join him there if you don't retrace your steps.

Narrated By 'Aisha
I heard the Prophet and listened to him before his death while he was Lying supported on his back, and he was saying, "O Allah! Forgive me, and bestow Your Mercy on me, and let me meet the (highest) companions (of the Hereafter)."
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:715

why then Jesus will not be able to safe these people?

Many will say to me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?” Then I will tell them plainly, “I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!” (Matt 7:22-23)


Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them, “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’ But he will answer, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!’” (Lk 13:23-27)
Later the other virgins also came, saying, “Lord, lord, open up for us.” But he answered, “Truly I say to you, I do not know you.” Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour (Mat 25:12-13).


So, the Hadith and verse of Quran you quoted is telling you that you have to have your own faith. You can not really rely on your parent's faith to make heaven

advocatejare:
Jesus knew where he was going.

John 14:2
There is more than enough room in my Father’s home. If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?

When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am.

this is john speaking. Besides, your same bible said Jesus can not do anything of his own. "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge.." John 5:30

If Jesus cannot do anything of his own, it means John 14:2 is not independent of John 5:30. It means if God doesn't allow him to get or rescue anyone, he can not.[/quote]

advocatejare:
I didn't shift goal post, I only asked you to show me where u were instructed to pray 5 times daily in the Quran but you lied that it was when Muhammad traveled on the flying donkey to his fairytale heaven that he negotiated for a reduction of the number of times you should pray, but I busted your bubbles by showing that Muhammad your fraudulent prophet stole that fable of traveling to heaven on a flying donkey from Zoroastrianism.

I also opened your yansh by showing how the 3 times prayer he prescribed for you in the Quran was stolen from the Jews!

So if 3 times prayers was prescribed for you in the Quran, why did your false prophet then claim that he helped you to negotiate the prayer down from 50 times a day to 5 times?

FYI some Muslims in Arab countries still observe only 3 times daily prayer as copied from the Jews in the Quran because they realise how fraudulent the own thing looks.

First question you need to answer is, do you believe and pray salat?. If your answer is no, then i will continue wasting my time. I already told you SALAT isnt peculiar to human being from the time of Abraham. So first answer my question otherwise we will continue to drag it. You neither believe in SALAT of muslims or SALAT of Jews

advocatejare:

You wey dey run kabakabakaba since morning.

I won't be tired of teaching you

this is you wishful thinking. Since i challenged you on salat you have shifted goalpost

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advocatejare:
Scroll up and read your write up again

no, quote me. That's much better. What you quoted earlier you don't seem to understand my post. I didn't say Arabs are Israelites.

Looks to me I have humbled you to some extent.

advocatejare:
They are still the preferred people. Only believe in Jesus makes us Co heir with Jesus and makes us equal with the Jews in terms of God's preference.

Mr Man, stop deceiving yourself. He's are no longer chosen people. They lost their integrity when they were given chance to believe in Jesus but majority of them rejected him. It was due to their rejection of Jesus that led to their glory, prophethood shifted from them and given to another nation, Arabs. Right now your are Christian but Jews don't believe what you believe. Why are you deceiving yourself?. Even in Israel today population of Muslims are far more higher than CHRISTIANs. Jews don't love you but why are you forcing yourself on them?[/quote]However you Muslims remain slaves and slaves forever. And your leader Muhammad said he didn't know what will be done to him, he also claimed he was nothing original among the messengers. He was fake. Quran 46:9[/quote]ofcourse we are slaves forever to our Lord. Is anything wrong with that?.

Jesus himself knows nothing. If he doesn't know about the Hour how would he know what will happen to him on Judgement Day?


In the book Mark 13:32

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father

advocatejare:
Your friend @Empiree said Arabs are Israelites, and I've taught him that they are not.

But if you're now claiming that Arabs are Jews because Abraham was Jew then it means all the curses that Muhammad placed on Jews are meant for Arabs, since you're claiming now that Arabs are Jews.

Guy, why did you lie about me?. Where did I say Arabs are Israelites?

advocatejare:
That's to tell you that Allah is a fraud created by Muhammad to deceive people.
If Allah said he has sent messengers to all nation and we then ask him to show us the prophet he sent to all nations and he suddenly retrace his steps by saying that he didn't reveal everything to Muhammad.

He didn't need to reveal everything to Muhammad, at least there's no mention of Isaiah in the Quran and Isaiah was a prophet in the Bible, so if there are other prophets too, we would have known. Allah and Muhammad are just pathological liars and they are fraud.


You asked me what my business is with the Israelites? I've answered you, they are the one given the scriptures and prophethood to guide mankind to the right path and Jesus Christ my saviour was delivered by a Jewess called Mary.

and did they guide mankind?. No, they failed and kingdom and prophet good was taken away from them an be given to Arabs. Jews were the chosen people AT THEIR TIME. Now there is nothing like "chosen people" anymore. It is now BELIEVERS

advocatejare:
Eeyah. Now I know that you have much to learn, I initially thought you have sound knowledge of the religion before that was why I was conversing with you on high standard.

guy, where did I ask you "Arabs aren't israelite"?.

advocatejare:
Which messenger was sent to Russia, Nigeria, Ghana, UK, and the rest of the nations?

this verse answered you. Some of these Messengers are mentioned in the Qur'ân by Allah and some of them are not as the Qur'ân says:

And, indeed We have sent Messengers before you (O Muhammad(P)); of some of them We have related to you their story and of some We have not related to you their story, and it was not given to any Messenger that he should bring a sign except by the Leave of Allah. So, when comes the Commandment of Allah, the matter will be decided with truth, and the followers of falsehood will then be lost. (Qur'ân 40:78)

List the prophet that each nations of the world have and I will show you that only Israel have Prophets, any other nations that claim to have prophets have false prophet like Muhammad

implication here is that you aren't Israelite. You are Nigerian, perhaps. So what's your business with them?.

advocatejare:
The nation bringing up good fruits are the non Israel nations that are doing the will of God, that accept Jesus as the son of God the most high.

you shot yourself in the foot. So Arabs aren't Israelites and you confirmed that those nations would believe in Jesus and Arabs and musims believe in Jesus. Case closed

advocatejare:
Oh so you believe in the Bible now?
Your God himself told you in the Quran that only the children of Israel are given the scriptures and prophethood. And since Muhammad was not a Jew he couldn't have been a prophet according to the standard set in the Quran

وَلَقَدْ ءَاتَيْنَا بَنِىٓ إِسْرٰٓءِيلَ الْكِتٰبَ وَالْحُكْمَ وَالنُّبُوَّةَ وَرَزَقْنٰهُمْ مِّنَ الطَّيِّبٰتِ وَفَضَّلْنٰهُمْ عَلَى الْعٰلَمِينَ
"And We did certainly give the Children of Israel the Scripture and judgement and prophethood, and We provided them with good things and preferred them over the worlds."
(QS. Al-Jaathiya 45: Verse 16)

Muhammad was only a fabricator and a false prophet

No true prophet of Almighty God lived such a miserable and filthy life that Muhammad lived.

in the verse you quoted, where does it say ONLY children of Israel are given the scriptures and prophethood?.

Allah sent messangers to every nation on Earth. And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], "Worship Allah and avoid Taghut." Quran 16:36

advocatejare:
It's just funny how you people reason.

First, Muhammad could never have been a prophet because he was not a Jew. Only Jews are given the grace of prophethood.

Now that you are cornered you retorted to this old tactic "Muhammad could never be a prophet because he was not a Jew." but your own Bible refuted your claim.

In the book of Matthew 21:19-21, Jesus spoke of the fruitless fig tree (A Biblical symbol of prophetic heritage) to be cleared after being given the last chance of three years ( the duration of Jesus' ministry) to give fruit. In a later verse in the same chapter, Jesus said "Therefore, say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruit thereof" (Matthew 21:43). That nation of Ishmael's descendants (the rejected stone in Matthew 21:42) which was victorious against all super-powers of its time as prophesied by Jesus: "And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken, but on whosoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder" Matthew (21:44).

So this bible verse clearly shows a shift of prophethood from the Jews(failure) to the Arabs(success)

Muhammad was only a false prophet. His lifestyles and the circumstances surrounding his death has confirmed that.

It was the tradition of the Jews to pray 3 times a day, and when Muhammad started copying them he was initially praying 3 times a day(that is why only 3 times daily prayer is mentioned in the Quran) until when the Jews rejected him for the false prophet he was and he then followed the path of the Zoroastrians so the lie you're telling about Muhammad helping you people to reduce prayers from 50 times to 5 is mere confabulation.



Muhammad plagiarized his so called heavenly accent from Zoroastrianism


"Heavenly ascent of prophet: Islam and Zoroastrianism both have the concept of the prophets traveling to heaven. The journey Isra and Mi'raj of Muhammad during night is very much similar to Arda Viraf’s night journey to heaven under the guidance of angel Sarosh. The story is also similar that the winged horse like creature with a human head, Buraq carried Muhammad in his night journey while Barag, the Persion equivalent of it did the same for Arda Viraf."

It was during this same heavenly accent he stole from Zoroastrians that Muhammad claimed he went to negotiate the number of times of daily prayer for you people.

And it's like you're thinking that Zoroastrianism believe in your own god. They have their own god called Ahura Mazda and they have their own prophet called Zoroaster. So don't drag them into your fictious beliefs!

Everything about Islam is lies, plagiarism and confabulation!

irrelevant and fruitless agitation

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advocatejare:
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You think you can divert my attention away from the question I asked you?

Show me where it is written in the Quran that you should pray 5 times daily, the name of the prayer and when to observe them.

Just like Muhammad plagiarized the Bible, he plagiarized Zoroastrianism too.

He stole Hajj and circumambulation from the pagans

He retained kissing of the Blackstone and commanded you his followers to pray facing the Kaaba like the pagans did.

He imposed the Quarysh idol, Allah on you his followers made u retain the image of Hubal (crescent moon and star) at the top of your mosques minarets.

Muhammad confirmed that he was a false prophet. He was not a Jew, he himself put it in the Quran that only Jews could be prophets


وَلَقَدْ ءَاتَيْنَا بَنِىٓ إِسْرٰٓءِيلَ الْكِتٰبَ وَالْحُكْمَ وَالنُّبُوَّةَ وَرَزَقْنٰهُمْ مِّنَ الطَّيِّبٰتِ وَفَضَّلْنٰهُمْ عَلَى الْعٰلَمِينَ
"And We did certainly give the Children of Israel the Scripture and judgement and prophethood, and We provided them with good things and preferred them over the worlds."
(QS. Al-Jaathiya 45: Verse 16)

He failed his own test in the Quran, he was later cut in the aorta and died miserably on the top of a woman

Guy, you dont even understand the concept of SALAT how it was passed down and you are asking 5 daily prayers. like seriously?. Abraham (AS) made the religion permanent and it went on like that until Jesus which means they had different formats and the same religion(Islam) was perfected by prophet muhammad. If Pagan arabs were praying certain number of times a day before prophet muhammad it means they held onto remnants from what their prophets practiced. Like Moses and Jesus for instance, they prayed more than 5 times a day. Even report says that Zoroastrians you are talking about prayed more than 5 times a day. Another report says 7 times a day. Historic report has it that salat was coming from 50 times a day until prophet muhammad came it was reduced to 5 times bcuz prophet muhammad(SAW) is a mercy to the world. So what exactly is your problem?

advocatejare:
[s]Yes, it's true Jesus prostrated while praying, many prominent people did in the Bible.

Psalm 95:6
O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the Lord our maker.

Matthew 26:39
He went on a little farther and bowed with his face to the ground, praying, “My Father! If it is possible, let this cup of suffering be taken away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.”

Muslims always make reference to this to justify bowing down to praise God, there's no crime in doing so, in fact it is a very acceptable way of praying to God.

Now let's examine the verse above as quoted by @Empiree the same verse shows us that Jesus called God his father which Muslims always try to deny but they are always quick to quote the same verse to promote sujud.

Bowing down one's head to pray is acceptable in Christianity and it's one of the various ways one can praise or pray to Almighty God. Other ways include dancing, rolling on the floor, lifting up one's hand, singing and the rest. In fact, David was recorded to have danced to praise to God in the Bible.

Bowing down to praise/pray to God is acceptable only if you do it to worship the Almighty God and not a god confined to the East or inside the black box called Kaaba.

Almighty God declare as abomination Muslim way of praying, facing the East and bowing down towards the East, worshipping the Sun, Moon and Star like you do

Ezekiel 8:15-16
Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

As for the number of prayers that you observe in Islam, you were not commanded to observe such in the Quran. Muhammad simply copied the Persian(Zoroastrianism) mode of worship of 5 times daily prayer, Zoroastrians pray facing fire or any light source, you Muslims pray facing the East where the sun rises from.

And the number and times of prayer, he copied verbatim, copied the pagan mode of worship. [/s]

have you finished wit your dishonest "tafsir"?

Check below to see how Muhammad plagiarized Zoroastrianism mode of praying.

Salat did not start with prophet Muhammad. Salat had been legislated for Abraham.

[Quran 16:123] Then we inspired you (O Muhammad) to follow the religion of Abraham, monotheism; never was he an idol-worshiper.

[Quran 22:78] You shall strive in the cause of God as you should. He has blessed you, and imposed no hardship in your religion; the RELIGION OF YOUR FATHER ABRAHAM, It is He(ALLAH) who named you "Muslims" in the beginning. Thus, the messenger serves as witness among you, just as you serve as a witness among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Salat prayers, give the Zakat charity, and hold fast to God; He is your Lord; the best Lord, and the best supporter.


Logically, if prophet Muhammad(SAW) was a follower of Abraham, and we are followers of Muhammad(SAW), then we are followers of Abraham. What did we and Muhammad(SAW) learn from Abraham ?

The Quran teaches us that we learned ALL THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES of Islam from Abraham. The whole Arabian society before and during the time of Muhammad(SAW) had many followers of the religion of Abraham. Thus Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl, and the idolaters of Quraish used to observe Salat prayers as we can see in 8:35.


[Quran 8:35] Their SALAT PRAYERS at the shrine were no more than deceit and repulsion. ...

So salat offered by zoroastrians was nothing than whispering and deceit and their belief system was corrupt before the advent of prophet Muhammad(SAW) who later corrected them.



Same Salat and Zakat was ordained for the children of Israel

[Quran 2:43] (O Children of Israel) you shall observe the SALAT PRAYERS & ZAKAT charity; you shall bow down with those who bow.



Here Abraham and his sons were commanded to offer Salat and Zakat. [Quran 21:72-73] And we granted him (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob as a gift, and we made them righteous. And we appointed them Imams who guide in accordance with our commandments. AND WE TAUGHT THEM RIGHTEOUS WORKS AND THE OBSERVANCE OF SALAT AND ZAKAT.

So your attempt to lure zorotians with islam is nothing but deceit on your side. Even Jesus was commanded by Allah to offer Salat and Zakat. Here are MORE PROOFS THAT SALAT OBSERVED BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD -SAW.


[Quran 3:43] O Mary (Mariam), you shall obey your Lord, and shall prostrate and bow down with those who bow down.

[Quran 19:31] (Jesus said) God has made me blessed wherever I go, and He commanded me to observe the SALAT PRAYERS and ZAKAT charity for as long as I live.


But the Jews and Christians lost the SALAT PRAYERS, changed it and invented their own.

[Quran 19:59] Generations came thereafter who LOST the SALAT prayers, and pursued their lusts.

So, again,

[Quran 21:72-73] And we granted him (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob as a gift, and we made them righteous. And we appointed them Imams who guide in accordance with our commandments. AND WE TAUGHT THEM RIGHTEOUS WORKS AND THE OBSERVANCE OF SALAT AND ZAKAT.

All the nonsense you do in church today is nothing but play and jokes