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gideonite98:
You go see malat no be salat
If you want to know about Christianity read the bible not by listening to your clerics
They have been brain washed by their leaders that were brain shed by muhammed

you are very ignorant. Bible verses are presented to you and you still talking about I should read the Bible?. Are you well at all?

Guestlander:
What was the basis of their earlier accusation that the recruitment was being done based on birth certificates issued by a Church?
Goes on to show that the Muric leader is not a trustworthy person.

shut up. That's what was first published. MURIC agitation was based on alleged church certificate. It was published that applicants must obtain certificate and letter from church

Ogonimilitant:
The Fulanis are using this man to create division in Yoruba Land.
He is the one who always bring the issue of Yoruba Muslim and Yoruba Christian.

The man was the one that thought the Igbos that there are Yoruba Muslims and Yoruba Christian
and he is actually intensifying this agenda.

Yorubas have never been divided by religion. Its obvious that the aim is for them not to speak with one
voice which this man and his group have achieved.

Anything that happens in Yoruba land, the man will make sure he gives it religious colouration.
Any Yoruba person who thinks that they can work together with one voice again is dreaming.
Amotekun has been destroyed by this group and will never work as planned again.

That is what the Caliphate wants and they have achieved it using religion.
that is the same way they used Akintola against Awolowo.

I just pity the Christians and the traditional worshipers in Yoruba land.

Biafra is not your Problem. I can conveniently tell you that it easier for Biafrans to leave Nigeria
than for Yorubas to break away from Nigeria to achieve Oduduwa republic.

The Yoruba Muslim will never let it happen

are you crazy?. Look at the bolded. Did you read CAN (Christian Association Of Nigeria) manifesto in 1994?. It contained deadly statements that divided Muslims and Christians in Nigeria and especially Yoruba. MURIC knows exactly what he's saying. He and many muslims have read the Christian manifesto published in 1994. I advise you to please look for it. It is not available online. It is hidden in library. The manifesto was the reason north set up Sharia. Christians in Nigeria wanted to take over the country in the 90s with the help of Israel and Western countries funding.

CAN and CHRISTIAN organizations Nigeria delibrately hide this manifesto. The day you guys read it you will begin to understand Muslims. Ask your pastors. Ask Adeboye, Oyedepo they know about it.

Allow me to paraphrase one of the statements in their manifesto.

"We pray God to destroy Islam in Nigeria and cause misunderstanding amongst Muslims"


Please people look for CHRISTIAN MANIFESTO IN NIGERIA PUBLISHED IN 1994.

THANKS

gideonite98:
Because Islamic terrorists kill people every day did not make some people leave the religion


So the video you're posting has not effect here

ki laanwi kini nwi?. How does your post correlate?. Guy, be Muslim.

Islam is the way. Stop wasting your time in christianity. It is fake religion forced on your by white colonial masters. Stop being emotional about religion. Study and learn.

I have PDF book written by Jamiu Adegunwa title Hidden Facts About Islam And Christianity

I can do the screenshots here for you to read. Or Whatsapp you can get off. Or you if you're comfortable watching YouTube the lectures are there. No one is killing anyone for living Islam. That's a lie made up and put in your brain by your pastors to keep you lifeless in church.

Those who left Islam done know what they were doing in the first place. Those who come from Christianity or other religions to Islam have discovered the truth.

gideonite98:
So do I take the word of a man looking for publicity?
Or the word of the most high God?
Ama answer that for you
I take the word of GOD
He told me in the bible to pay my tithe and bring offering to his house and I do and will always do.

guy, you don't even follow your Bible. Every commandment of God in your Bible you Christians don't follow it. You are COMMANDED by God to pray SALAT as Muslims do but you chose your own different prayers. Prayer recommended for you in mentioned in the book of Nehemiah 8 verses 4 to 6


To better understand this SALAT mentioned in this Bible verses, I have posted short video for better understanding below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagXsAg5jTE

You may watch the full version in the video below from 13-16 mins or better still, watch the entire debate with your open heart


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHnZoXF2yY


Now watch this muslim SALAT and compared to Nehemiah 8 vs 4-6

gideonite98:
So we give our offering and tithes
Why is it your problem?
Why are you then calling our pastors thieves?
The money from the ceremony goes to your clerics and I dont care
So why do you know tag our own pastors as thieves?
Rubbish and radarada oshi

Here is the video. It is not 2 minutes. It is 44 seconds


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNq57B9wS4w

gideonite98:
So we give our offering and tithes
Why is it your problem?
Why are you then calling our pastors thieves?
The money from the ceremony goes to your clerics and I dont care
So why do you know tag our own pastors as thieves?
Rubbish and radarada oshi

It seems you have not been watching Shola Jordan Adeboye, a US based Nigeria pastor. Watch him on YouTube. He will tell you how thieves your pastors are. From Adeboye to Oyedepo and host of others. They are den of theives. He calls Nigerians CHRISTIANs pagans. He said you guys practice Judaism. Watch how he bastardized Christians here. Remember he's not muslim but pastor in America


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEWNjLOS0dY


I will upload his 2 mins rant calling Christians pagans and I will post it here shortly. Stay tuned

Crayfish09:
You know, one thing about nairaland Christians is that they never accept defeat and it is not only when they are arguing with we Muslims. Even at times when they get floored by the atheists, they still try so hard to keep the argument going. As you have pointed out, the Qur'an clearly described how Isa (AS) was born and he was never begotten unlike their falsified, biblican fashion. I was even hoping that advocatejare would challenge my claims about Yahweh instructing his warriors to "keep for themselves the virgins" (is forcefully, without their consent) and even keep some of them for him (Yahweh)

I will no longer argue with him henceforth regarding the issue of Mary. He has lost the debate

he's better ignored. He sounds so ignorant and guilt in his last post

gideonite98:
Your clerics collect money not only in burials even in naming ceremonies
Pay this so the child will be successful...
Everybody pay this so that the child will become this....
If you know you too want to have a baby oya drop money
Like it is so funny

We pay tithes and offerings in church
Not in burial or weddings or naming ceremonies

don't shift. Clarify "burial money offering" before jumping over. That's silly allegation you made.

As for bolded part, all that are meant to keep everybody happy and create unity within people. There is nothing like pay this and that so that your baby can be successful. They simply put it that way and we understand. It is not by force. Celebrants give freely. It is their money not yours. It is only problematic if force is used. So guy, something else.

This is entirely different from tithes.

whitelotus:
How am I a hypocrite?

The NBA is not a government agency. They have their own dress code.

However, no harm no foul. I am someone that does not really care if women wear Hijab

everything is "privately owned" in nija, abi?. An excuse to deprive others of their fundamental rights?. Their private companies or businesses must conform with Nigerian constitution if not, they should close their businesses.

Besides, @bold shows you stylishly backed off.

whitelotus:
Companies and schools have their own private dress codes. That is a grey area. For instance-

-In a private school, they have every right to ban wearing of hijab, especially if it is a christian/jewish.
-In a public school, it can be allowed since all religions are given equal treatment

Don't forget that many christians were on the side of MURIC and against the Hijab ban.

Just because MURIC did something right for muslims, it doesnt negate the nonsense they have been up to.


Why not address what happened to Falz?

You are hypocrite. How about Amasa Firdaus?. Bar is private too right?.

gideonite98:
Your Alfas are the thieves
Collecting lot's of offering in a burial
SMH

Pastors collect offering and tithes in churches
Not in burials or stuffs

We don't curse our enemy
We pray against them
And that's is better than slaughtering them like goats

I know you hurt right now. Kpele.

"Alfa collect offering in a burial"

You don't even know how to lie, buddy. Do you know what burial is at all?. You have idea of the gravity of this accusation you just made?. Burial is janaza and you accused Alfas of syphoning money while deceased is buried

I have never seen that in my life. I know you made this up because I destroyed fabric of your religion

Here is a gift for you below. Deal with it

whitelotus:
Freedom of speech. Did you forget the threat and controversy that happened between MURIC and Falz?

MURIC had to even withdraw their threats shamefully.

Guy, you are very senseless. Of many things that had happened Faz is all you can come up with?. I blamed myself for engaging dullard. How about the rights of many muslim women prevented from wearing their hijab at school and at work despite Nigerian constitution allowing them their fundamental religious rights?. We seen how christians fight hijab tooth and nail on a daily basis.. You are very shameless.

This is the final photograph of Phillip Herron 34, crying in his car, literally minutes before he took his own life.

He was a single Dad of three young children, struggling with escalating debt of over £20,000 and was desperately waiting for a universal credit payment he'd applied for. But it's paid in arrears, with a 5 week wait time.

That wait drove him even deeper into debt, and when he died he had £4.61 in his bank account and clearly couldn't see any other way out. Like a lot of people, especially men, he kept all of this to himself, nobody else knew how bad things were getting. The poor bloke even had to tell his children that Father Xmas hadn't come this year, and in his suicide note he wrote that they'd be better off if he wasn't there any more.
And now he isn't.


We need to talk more. We need to be kinder. And we need to be a country that helps people when they need it the most.

RIP ❤️ x

whitelotus:
One person's rights stops at the oppression of another person's rights.

You cannot fight for muslim rights while denying that of Christians.

which right (s) of Christians were denied by Muslims or MURIC?

You have shifted goalpost. Thanks though for speaking the truth about mosque donations. That's very true. And it is true that some Alfas do collect sadaqa (charity) as well. Nothing wrong with that. We have evidence in our book for sadaqa. But your churches are den of thieves and business centers


If you people truly love for the sake of love as mentioned in your book to love your enemies, I wonder why you guys always curse the hell out of your enemies. You don't see that with Muslim. In one street in Nigeria you could have 10 churches and all of them early in the morning curse holy crap out of their enemies. "Holy ghost burn them. Holy spirit fire them. Oh gather Lord kill them....shiiiiiilalalsbsrsbsabbabbba nonesense"

gideonite98:
Let's leave the love aspect because I know you will never get it, it is something that is not practiced in your book so I don't blame you....


So they don't collect money in mosques?
I have mosques around my house
I know they don't do offering and tithes in mosques because it's not in your book
But they ask for money and contribution when it comes to building the mosque and stuff like that

Plus your clerics
This people know how to collect money in ceremonies
Especially if it is burial

Oya alhaji pay this so that your mother will be comfortable in her grave, well wishers come forward and pay if you know you want the corpse to do this and to that

The one time I attented
We were just busy going out to give money on behalf of the corpse

gideonite98:
so they couldn't have sold it to the other organization that offered more money?actually no body sells what he has at a lower price so they did out of "love"

But I understand your frustration "love" is not something that could be found in your quran or in your religion of peace.
Muhammed made sure he scrapped out the love aspect and the dude even led his followers to war like seriously!
How would a prophet that came to establish his religion kill people and fight wars?
So I understand if you don't know what love is.

you don't get it. Ofcourse, media would portray it is about "love". If it about love they would sell it when they had huge congregation. That's true love. The reason they sold it for Muslims is bcuz they prefer to sell to Muslims(believers) than club. Club would invite crimes.

So the only good things they did that impressed me was the fact that they sold it to Muslim at cheaper and affordable rate despite higher offer by night club folks. They will surely get their reward from God for that.

The reason churches thrive in Nigeria however is bcus churches in Nigeria are business centers but in the West they are places of worship. Donations or money received are accounted for unlike in Nigeria

gideonite98:
They lost their congregation to the mosque?
Like seriously?
That's the best lie you can come up with??

See you're just quoting me and you're saying nonsense

They sold it to the mosque and not to the other organization because that's what they call love and religion tolerance I hope your Quran teaches you that.

love my foot. They sold it because of low congregation. This is what's happening in the West now. Only few old people go to church. Young one don't.

The same happened to another church in Hollis in Queens New York. It is the same name like this one (see picture below). You notice it is same name but different locations.

# Masjid Isa ibn Maryam - Mosque Of Jesus Son Of Mary (NYC)


# # Masjid Isa ibn Maryam - Mosque Of Jesus Son Of Mary (upstate New York)


Compare both buildings and environment you notice they are different. Same incident happened to both of them. So they were sold to Muslims bcus their congregation reverted to Islam and some no longer come to church. They didn't sell to muslims because of "love".

Sirsuky:
We all know their lies from the bit of hell after they have killed and beheaded many Christian they now bomb a mosque so that it will not look as if is not only Christian that is endanger species.God will expose you people very soon mark my word

shut d phuck up. Go to hell with your conspiracy theory. The headline itself was wrong. It should have been BH massacred muslim worshippers inside mosque and leveled the mosque to the ground . You idiot. You think you have monopoly of victimhood?.

When they killed christians you cried victims. When they killed muslims it is conspiracy. What a load of crap. Let me remind you again that BH are creation of Judeo-christian terrorist. They are created and funded by both element within nigeria and foreign govt. Did you watch nigerian woman recently accused France of funding BH in the name of humanitarian aid?. BH was created during Obj (christian) regime. Escalated during Gej(christian) regime. In 2009 CSI Los Angeles predicted BH menace. It was actually dedicated to series of CSI episodes. Go on youtube and watch. There are more that i can say online. Before BH became obvious in 2009, Israelis Jew wrote article on a NY Daily Newspaper that they (western countries) needed nigeria oil but the obstacle would be muslims north(that they would not allow nigeria oil to be taken). Therefore, they must do something to distract and syphon nigeria resources. I read this newspaper by myself in late 2007 in New York City. Since then i sensed there would be problem in nigeria. It waa for this reason i open FB account and I saw a guy with northen name and I briefed him about pending trouble in the region. Less than two(2) years later I started hearing about BH up north. The mallam guy sent me msg that I was right.

But you nigerians are bunch of idiots. You dont know sh!t. You are bunch of religion nutjob and bigots. With all your prayers in churches and the so called "holy stupid spirit" you have inside you, you couldn't figure things out. It was only pastor Bakare that seemed to understood this evil plot in 2014. But other pastors like Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, TB Joshua etc are bunch of clowns. They dont know sh!t. Keep blaming muslims and Islam. Thats exactly what these evil, wicked people wanted to distract you. I wish i could screenshot the article form the newspaper. I did keep it for few yrs but i lost it bcus i moved around. Once again, the people behind BH are Judeo-christian terrorist alliance. They dont give a damn about nigeria christians. They will just play on your emotions to get their way.



Watch the woman here

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2661233950634281&id=313498312074535

whitelotus:
Only ignorant people take Ishaq Akintola seriously. MUMURIC

what's wrong with fighting for the right of Muslims?

advocatejare:
You are the one that is humbled, all the mumus who had thought you were a scholar and a knowlegeable person in Islam have seen that you don't know anything. I've blown wind in your yansh, ati ri furo e

advocatejare:
Tactical withdrawal. You have accepted the defeat, if not tell us the history of the compilation of the Quran

For not being man enough to accept my challenge, you have agreed that Muhammad was a false prophet and that Allah is an idol of the Quraysh

As I said before, you having nothing upstairs. You are now humbled. Remember there are viewers reading us. You opened this thread and came up like tiger. Now you are nothing but a chained wounded dog with it's tail btw the legs. You don't have anything else reasonable to say. The only thing you will be post from now is trash talk and blackmail. I will ignore

Have a nice day.

advocatejare:
I've already known the truth and I'm free, no follower of filthy, sex addict that died miserably while having sex can tell me lies and I will believe.

A false prophet that was born 600years after christ had died and resurrected cannot tell me that a jinn that tormented him in the cave of Hira told him a contrary thing about Jesus and i will believe him.

sign...empty. I have comfortably humbled you. You have nothing upstairs again except blackmailing religious figure

advocatejare:
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We follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and he has told us the way to pray, and it is his teachings that we follow not the teaching of the sex addict filthy false prophet muhammad

Matthew 6
5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get. 6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

show me just one teaching of Jesus that you follow?.

Second, Jesus has nothing to do with you. He was sent to Jews not black Africans

advocatejare:
Diversion tactic.

Zaid bin Thabit wrote the Quran u have today, he was supervised by Uthman and they destroyed the other codices.

Tell us about the history of compilation of the Quran.

If you're a true Muslim and you believe that Muhammad is a true prophet and you believe that Allah is a true God, share the link to an Islamic website or Islamic book that tells us the history of how the Quran was compiled and I will show you that Zaid bin Thabit was the one that gave you the Quran you have today.

You sound like angry jerk after I trashed your yansh show me from Qur'an where it is said said authored Quran?. If you can't, then you need to cease and desist

advocatejare:
He had to feel the pain so that the world can be saved but muhammad's pain was from when the poison was tearing his aorta and Muhammad later died miserably, filthy death he died and never woke up, death defeated him, he felt the agony of death and could not survive it. Jesus died, resurrected and lives forever, he's alive. Halleluyah

talk talk talk without flavor. Guy, Jesus did not for for your sin. That's fallacy concocted by Bible scholars. You can't claim to want to die for humanity and at the same time cry your ass out for help. That's obvious contradiction. Get off your high horse and admit the truth.

advocatejare:
you're a fraud just like Muhammad. Show me where God or any prophet made it a law that we must pray by bowing down.

If you can't show me, it means you have lied against God and God's curse is on liars!

where is evidence in your Bible for clapping, dancing, singing, beating Dems, pianos in church to worship God?. I will repeat for the last time. Mode of worship legislated by God in your Bible was demonstrated by different prophets in your Bible but you neglected and formed your own

advocatejare:
You claim that God legislated it, show the prove

No need to waste time. Let's look at the definition of LEGISLATION.

As you can see from the definition shows a SPECIFIC mode of SALAT. Prayers of all prophets and messangers were similar which means it is a legislation. This is contrary to Christian unregulated prayers today which is the reason you can't pray together because you do not have universal mode of worship.

So salat of all prophets and messangers were regulated like Muslims

advocatejare:
You're a joker, before I answer you clarify the false claim you made earlier that God legislated the way Ezra prayed.

If you can't show me where God legislated it in the Bible, then it means you invented it and God had already cursed people like you that add to his words

guy, did you go to school and what was your final grade?. Or you did "orijo" to pass exams?. I just showed you how prophets and messangers passed down salat throughout history. All of them are in harmony but CHRISTIAN worship is the opposite

Davash222:
They’ve been the one funding terrorism all these while.

after they stop funding mosque around the world, if terrorism still continues, are they still responsible?.

Ya Ara e ni brain.

advocatejare:
There is no where in the Nehemiah you quoted where God legislated that that's how people should pray to him.

You're just trying to add to the Word of the Lord to suit your argument and God has cursed people like you who add to his word, he said he will add to your calamities.

throughout your Bible we found this mode of prayer by prophets and messangers watch means this was legislated mode of SALAT


And he (Jesus) went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed..." (Matthew 26:39)



"And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship..." (Joshua 5:14)



"And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces…" (Numbers 20:6)



"And Abraham fell on his face..." (Genesis 17:3)



"…and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God." (Revelation 7:11)



"…then they bowed their heads and worshiped the Lord with their faces to the ground." (Nehemiah 8:6)

"…Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces." (1 Chronicles 21:16)



In many others places in the Bible where we find the method of prayer mentioned, it calls to mind the way Muslims pray. In the Bible book entitled Daniel we are able to read a description of Daniel praying to God in a time of great crisis.



"Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did a foretime." (Daniel 6:10)


It is interesting to note that Prophet Daniel prayed towards Jerusalem. In the early days of Prophet Mohammad’s mission the faithful also prayed towards Jerusalem.

So CHRISTIANs different so called prayers today are nothing but jokes

advocatejare:
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So try again, the Quran you have today is authored by Zaid bin Thabit and edited by Uthman the third Calipha.

Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction. 4:82



“(This is) revelation of the book in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds. Or do they say he has forged it? Nay it is the truth from the Lord.” (32:2-3)



Verily We(Allah)! it is We who have revealed the Admonition(Qur'an), and verily We are the guardians thereof. (15: 9)


Where is Zaid bin Thabit mentioned here?

advocatejare:
Today, Christians say it loud boldly that Christ was crucified for us, he died on the cross to save humanity and rose up the third day.

he "died for your sins" but he cried out loud to his father for rescue him Matthew 27:46.

Did that sounds like someone who wanted to die for humanity?. Keep deceiving yourself