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Fenrir:
And now jusd tried to use AI to win the debate

The "+2" happens when AI forms a link BUT that link WONT copy and paste

I researched the crap out of AI the second people started accusing me of using it

Then I got a PAID AI DETECTOR not a free one a paid one

And this is just further proof of your hypocrisy

What has that got to do with the facts presented?

Fenrir:
And what it doesn't take into account is more people are leaving Islam faster than they are coverting or breeding more

People that are born into it are leaving it faster than its growing

Please don’t be dumb. If it doesn’t take those leaving into account, why would Islam still be the fastest growing? How can Islam grow if significant numbers are leaving?

SIRTee15:
Let me shock once again.

The fastest growing religious sect by conversion is Pentecostal Christianity.
Yes u heard right, the fastest growing religious movement by CONVERSION is not Islam BUT PENTECOSTAL MOVEMENT.
Christianity is not dying in UK, what is dying is church of England and rightly so.
A church that promotes homosexuality deserves to die. Any church that promotes humanity over spirituality will meets its end soon because people have finally realised u don't need religion to be a good person.

Orthodox all over the world are struggling. Even in Nigeria, Anglican, Methodist and even Catholic are experiencing dwindling fortune so it's not a UK problem alone.
What is growing by conversion is Pentecostal movement and it's faster than Islam.
According to Pew research, 1 million people converts to Islam every year while 4 million people converts to Christianity mainly Pentecostalism.

Pentecostal growth is situated within Christianity. The fastest growing religion in the world is Islam. Read what AI has to say:

AI Overview


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Why Muslims are the world's fastest-growing religious group
Islam is projected to be the fastest-growing major religion globally, primarily due to high fertility rates and a young population, with forecasts suggesting it will nearly equal Christianity in numbers by 2050, though Christianity remains the largest faith now, according to studies by the Pew Research Center.
Key Factors in Islam's Growth:
Youthful Population: Muslims have the youngest median age compared to other religious groups.
Higher Fertility Rates: Muslim women generally have more children, contributing significantly to population growth.
Geographic Spread: Continued growth through migration and commerce, especially in Asia, America, and Europe.
Projections:
By 2050, the global Muslim population is expected to grow faster than the Christian population.
While Christianity currently has the largest number of followers (around 2.3 billion), Islam is close behind (around 2.0 billion) and growing rapidly.

SIRTee15:
Since u are not ready to engage in the truth but prefers to deal with irrelevance such as numbers of adherents, let's deal with numbers in the Quran.

IS QURAN THE WORD OF GOD? LET'S FIND OUT.

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations.



Quran 41:12 where you only quoted the firmaments created in 2 days. If you continue reading you will see other things created in the heavens in remaining days. Stop quoting out of context.
How many days did it take to create the Heavens and the Earth?

Quran-7:54: Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-10:3: Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran- 11:7: He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that Allah ( God) created the heavens and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated

Quran-41:9 : Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran-41:12: So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2 (for earth) + 2 (for heavens) = 4 days; and not 6 days.

So how long did it take Allah to create heaven and earth? Eniitankorede tell us.

Other things created in heavens were mentioned in Quran 41:12 which you skilfully omitted. Those were not created within the two days. Read it properly.

SIRTee15:
Forget about this bragging right about whose father's farm is the biggest.
Focus on the truth....

Is Quran the verbatim word of God?

Cosmological contradiction.

Allah created the Heaven first or, the Earth first (?)

Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time He says that the Heaven was created first.

Quran-2:29: It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….

Quran- 79:27-30: Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built ? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth.

Quran 41.9-12
Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds." And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask. Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly." And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.

Eniitankorede, kindly tell us which one did Allah created forst- heaven or earth.

If you understand simple English you will know that heaven was formed but not completed when He created the earth. It is so easy for a kindergarten child to understand. I am even surprised you are wondering if this is a revelation when you can see the truth depressions in the verses. Do they sound like someone telling the story of another person?

Kobojunkie:
I read your post and then saw this video pop up on my YouTube page. It is worth watching. 🥱🥱

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pW5MmZrYFs?si=kCmzWDHzjUCP7RP2

So you agree! And you are now asking why? You will continue to argue about the why until all your family become Muslims.

Dtruthspeaker:
Did I say anything about your servant looking like you?
See how your reasoning is out of sync?

As I said,"off point".

You are not serious. You think I am here to drag semantics with you. Complete ignoramus.

ChiefOloye:
Igbos will applaud this as being accurate now, but let South West be No 1. on the list, like that of internally generated revenue data, they will dispute it and call it agbadorians or gbegiri data.

Just this morning, employment rates in Africa was published here. They all rejected the good figures from Nigeria. Because it won’t serve Obi and Atiku election next year.

BItt:
Nigeria is not a failed state, it still way better than most African countries.
You just need to travel enough to know Nigeria is somewhat a paradise

Exactly true! Nigeria is far better than most African countries. Many of those complaining don’t travel. Travelling is education on its own.

owobokiri:
As expected!
The surprise here is that it is not 100% with the South East, and I strongly feel that this needs to be investigated. Who and who are not sending their kids to school in the east? Such irresponsible parents should be identified, arrested, tried and jailed..
Keys thrown away!

That said, it must be pointed out that the South East region of the country that has been margunalised, ostracised and discriminated in the civil service, the army, the police, the banking sector, the oil sector, the telecommunications sector , etc, is still the only region that sacrifices everything for education.

You see thousands of graduates struggling without jobs in the Eastern part of the country, as federal government investments, projects and largesse are concentrated elsewhere. This should have been enough to demoralise the people, but alas, they're trouncing the favored ones in all fields apart from rampant kleptomania..

Is Jaah not wonderfull!?

Spareparts apprentice don’t go to school.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you send your servant to meet a person, are you not the one who meets the person even if through a proxy or agent?

Is your servant not going on your command?

As I said, off point

Definitely not! Only your message remains original. Your servant cannot look like you. Completely illogical reasoning.

SIRTee15:
So because whites are converting to Islam, it means Islam is true!!!!
Well let me shock u...
The biggest converts to Yoruba spirituality are whites. The biggest converts to Buddhism are equally whites.

So leave irrelevance alone and face the truth. Is Quran the word of God?

More blunders from the Quran

Surah 18:86 states that Dhul-Qarnayn reached the setting place of the sun and found it setting in a "muddy waters.
Allah ignorantly claims the sun has a resting place it runs to everyday and it's in a muddy waters.

Stars as Missiles: According to the Quran, Allah created stars as decorations for the lowest heaven and as missiles to drive away devils/jinns (67:5, 37:6-.

Allah claimed Jews called Ezra the Son of God. Surah 9.30.
A claimed not found in any Jewish religious literature. No Jew dead or alive is ever recorded to have called Ezra Son of God in any form or shape.

There are over 100 historical and scientific blunders in the Quran. Your prophet simply copied down the ignorant beliefs of people on his time or things he heard, just he heard ancient physicians saying semen is ejected from the backbone and simply added it to the Quran
A book filled with such ignorant comments can never be from God.

Even your Hadith confirmed people during his time knew Mormo was fabricating stories claiming it's from God.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3617
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him."

You can’t shock me. But I will shock you, the religion with largest reverts in the world is Islam. You can’t compare the large number of Muslims to the small number in other religions. In fact, Christianity is fast declining in the west. Churches are turning to mosques in U.K. What is more shocking than that?

SIRTee15:
So because whites are converting to Islam, it means Islam is true!!!!
Well let me shock u...
The biggest converts to Yoruba spirituality are whites. The biggest converts to Buddhism are equally whites.

So leave irrelevance alone and face the truth. Is Quran the word of God?

More blunders from the Quran

Surah 18:86 states that Dhul-Qarnayn reached the setting place of the sun and found it setting in a "muddy waters.
Allah ignorantly claims the sun has a resting place it runs to everyday and it's in a muddy waters.

Stars as Missiles: According to the Quran, Allah created stars as decorations for the lowest heaven and as missiles to drive away devils/jinns (67:5, 37:6-.

Allah claimed Jews called Ezra the Son of God. Surah 9.30.
A claimed not found in any Jewish religious literature. No Jew dead or alive is ever recorded to have called Ezra Son of God in any form or shape.

There are over 100 historical and scientific blunders in the Quran. Your prophet simply copied down the ignorant beliefs of people on his time or things he heard, just he heard ancient physicians saying semen is ejected from the backbone and simply added it to the Quran
A book filled with such ignorant comments can never be from God.

Even your Hadith confirmed people during his time knew Mormo was fabricating stories claiming it's from God.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3617
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him."

You can’t shock me. But I will shock you, the religion with largest reverts in the world is Islam. You can’t compare the large number of Muslims to the small number in other religions. In fact, Christianity is fast declining in the west. Churches are turning to mosques in U.K. What is more shocking than that.

Fenrir:
Hey fella, this will drive you nuts, you are a certain belief system that i cant type or I get banned but im Norwegian and ex British royal Marine "MOS 11B Åberg".

Fought in Afghanistan, iraq, iran and worse. Guess which beliefs system i was at war with?

The one you are defending, the one that always becomes a failed state, the one that will never be successful

The one people are leaving faster than they can breed and convert them.

Patience it won't be around forever its on the decline already.

Your statements confirm you are in delusion. American soldiers who went to Afghanistan are turning to Islam. The ones in Saudi are reverting. Here in the west majority of reverts are into Islam. And you are here making empty brags.

SIRTee15:
Plenty, like telling us the semen of man comes from the backbone

Ask any doctor with good knowledge of embryology and they will tell you it is spot on. That’s the origin of testes and sperm cells. Your ignorance is the problem with you, not Quran. Your creator knows more than you.

Dtruthspeaker:
See how twisted you are? Did I say anything about Paul? Did not clearly say God?

Go and mind your business when God comes you would know if it is you Muslims who will be going to the place God has prepared for His enemies

If God already found you guiltless, what will be happening on the day of judgment?

Dtruthspeaker:
In your religion do you not you people not claim that your god went to the tiny creation called Mohammed?

Anyway, it is Off Point.

When God Comes we will know between us who is the unbeliever.

Very ignorant question. God sent His angel to Muhammad. Just like He went to Abraham and other prophets.

Dtruthspeaker:
When the world ends it is only forever regrets for God's enemies or forever rejoysing for those found guiltless, so I pray every day that God Come to deal with murderers, rapists, adulterers and all who are His enemies

Who found you guiltless? Paul? 😀

Fenrir:
Go back and read it you child and go check my other posts ive typed out the Hebrew AND Greek this shows your true ignorance because you clearly dont know the history of your religion just like your petty culture

You are in a state of self imposed delusion. Who is your child? When were you borne? You better go and take your medication.

Fenrir:
See another sign of your ignorance satan was never a part of Christianity

It was 3 separate concepts that were merged into 1 later

Religion is a joke in this country, you spit out nonsense but dont bother to learn the truth the same issue with your tribes and culture

Its all modern interpretation and none of it is the real deal. You are all frauds and nothing more.

All your sources which you derive your knowledge from have been corrupted. Yet you confidently tell me with your corrupted knowledge that I speak nonsense! Your eyes will soon clear.

Dtruthspeaker:
When God Comes we will know between us who is the unbeliever.

God can never come to this tiny bit of His creation. He is always there in His throne and sees everything, hears everything and knows everything. He does not have to come to the world which is a spec among His creation. Check the universe and compare it to your earth. You will know how inconsequential we are to God almighty.

SIRTee15:
The creator indeed. A book filed with errors, blunders and contradiction.
I'm sure 99% of Muslims know deep down that Quran wasn't written by any God. Except if Muhamed himslef is that god.

You are a liar. Show us the blunders, contradictions.

ZombieDredd:
IPOB is a force to reckon with .

I love that., una go hear am

The Christian terrorists baa?

Fenrir:
Until you read the original greek and Hebrew you are both wrong so stop bickering over translations of translations

You do the same crap over your cultures none of it is traditional just modern interpretations like
the current form of the bible

And you fella just shot yourself in the foot screaming ignorance when you will never get off your backside and learn to read the original forms

So I have to read Greek? Was Jesus Greek speaking or Hebrew speaking? You are confused.

Kobojunkie:
1. But this information is completely false. 🥱🥱

2. You should probably read well to understand the reference. 🥱
Offspring includes all those descended from a root, in this case, David! 🥱🥱

I thought you believe Jesus has no father. Why was he referring to descendant of David? If you are descendant of someone, are you not son of that person by descendance?

Dtruthspeaker:
When the world ends it is only forever regrets for God's enemies or forever rejoysing for those found guiltless, so I pray every day that God Come to deal with murderers, rapists, adulterers and all who are His enemies

Not just murderers and rapists, but also unbelievers like you.

Kobojunkie:
Who is all-knowing in this? A man that confused the identity of Jesus Christ's mother with a woman who was written to have lived more than 1500 years before? How can a witness make such a blunder? 🥱🥱

2. You have never read that book in your own, have you? 🥱🥱

You are complete ignorant of how people are referred according to their genealogy. Even your bible contains such description of people. You are ignorant about little things. Mary is a progeny of Al Imran.

In Revelation 22:16, Jesus referred to himself as the son of David. Now tell me, did David directly bear Jesus? You will continue to remain in ignorance and darkness by refusing to read and make research.

MMempire:
And coincidentally, your Quran copied almost all stories from the Bible. Even the Quran mentioned the name of Mary more than how many times your Muhammed?

Sorry I can’t help you in your state of confusion and darkness. I explained and you couldn’t understand. Seek for truth in your moment of silence and seek for guidance.

Kobojunkie:
Who is all-knowing in this? A man that confused the identity of Jesus Christ's mother with a woman who was written to have lived more than 1500 years before? How can a witness make such a blunder? 🥱🥱

2. You have never read that book in your own, have you? 🥱🥱

Nobody can take you out of your ignorance except Satan that bound you in it.

Dtruthspeaker:
You think we are not seeing it and counting? And if you are talking about rape you Muslims are still the world champions on it as proven in the north end in all the Muslim countries, not to talk of the fact that nearly in all their rapes, the woman must be murdered in addition.

God should come and end all these rubbish let all the evil people be taken to the place God has prepared for them.

You are claiming false statements. You have no evidence other than your bigotry. If the world ends today, you will regret it because you will have no option to come back and believe in Allah anymore.