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FG APPEAL STALLS RESOLUTION OF
HEALTH CRISIS
August 23, 2013 by | Filed in news | No
comments
Federal government has appealed to the
ruling of the National Industrial Court (NIC)
into its labour dispute with health workers who
went on indefinite nationwide strike
Wednesday midnight.
The appeal in court stopped its implementation
of agreements reached with members of Joint
Health Sector Unions last May.
Health minister Onyebuchi Chukwu is to
meet with JOHESU on Monday in hopes of a
dialogue but he appealed that striking workers
be considerate about the plight of thousands
of Nigerians denied health services on account
of their industrial action.
The minister said the agreements could not be
acted upon immediately because the appeal
was pending in court.
He said the appeal was filed on the advice of
government legal counsel and served on
JOHESU because the NIC ruling
asking government to negotiate with workers
intent on skipping a pay level and to allow
consultants appointed in error outside the
ministry to continue in their position was
“confusing.”
But JOHESU—an umbrella body of
nurses, midwives, pharmacists, technicians—
has denied knowledge of any appeal filed
and accused the health ministry of “shifting
the goal in the middle of the game.”
JOHESU president Dr Ayuba Wabba said
both parties, in a collective bargain agreement
reached before the dispute went to NIC in June
2012 at the behest of the labour ministry.
“There was an agreement and
understanding that whatever the outcome of
the NIC judgement, every party shall respect
and implement the judgment,” Wabba said.
“It wasn’t us that took the case to NIC, it was
government through the instrument of the
minister of labour. You can’t shift the post in
the middle of the game.”

FG APPEAL STALLS RESOLUTION OF
HEALTH CRISIS
August 23, 2013 by | Filed in news | No
comments
Federal government has appealed to the
ruling of the National Industrial Court (NIC)
into its labour dispute with health workers who
went on indefinite nationwide strike
Wednesday midnight.
The appeal in court stopped its implementation
of agreements reached with members of Joint
Health Sector Unions last May.
Health minister Onyebuchi Chukwu is to
meet with JOHESU on Monday in hopes of a
dialogue but he appealed that striking workers
be considerate about the plight of thousands
of Nigerians denied health services on account
of their industrial action.
The minister said the agreements could not be
acted upon immediately because the appeal
was pending in court.
He said the appeal was filed on the advice of
government legal counsel and served on
JOHESU because the NIC ruling
asking government to negotiate with workers
intent on skipping a pay level and to allow
consultants appointed in error outside the
ministry to continue in their position was
“confusing.”
But JOHESU—an umbrella body of
nurses, midwives, pharmacists, technicians—
has denied knowledge of any appeal filed
and accused the health ministry of “shifting
the goal in the middle of the game.”
JOHESU president Dr Ayuba Wabba said
both parties, in a collective bargain agreement
reached before the dispute went to NIC in June
2012 at the behest of the labour ministry.
“There was an agreement and
understanding that whatever the outcome of
the NIC judgement, every party shall respect
and implement the judgment,” Wabba said.
“It wasn’t us that took the case to NIC, it was
government through the instrument of the
minister of labour. You can’t shift the post in
the middle of the game.”

Nigeria Medical Workers
Strike: Let Us All Die!
By FEJIRO OLIVER
Silence never won rights. They are not handed
down from above; they are forced by pressure
from below---Roger Baldwin
I have tried very hard to restrain myself from
writing on this tragic strike embarked on by
the medical and health workers union in
Nigeria, but I can no longer hold myself from
writing this short piece, not after what one of
the health practitioners ( who prefers to be
called doctors ) said in a gathering of
intellectuals, that it is the prerogative of
Nigerian Medical Association(NMA) members to
be appointed as commissioners or ministers of
health. Then I knew that he and his colleagues
need to have their heads examined. My
assertion was later justified when I learnt that
he is a psychiatrist specialist who haven
mingled with mad men for years have lost his
sense of reasoning. Call it pride or being
boastful, but I can humbly say that I have
travelled and interacted with men of various
professions including foreign health workers
who are renowned surgeons, experts who at
their magical touch, celebral palsy is gone, but
I am yet to come across any who is as
pompous as Nigerian graduates of medicine.
Let no one say I have been paid for putting up
this reports or that I'm one of the other health
practitioners; far from it. As I matter of fact, I
am married to a member of this arrogant
profession. I have two female cousins who are
surgeons and graduates of Harvard, not these
mushroom universities that the so called
medical 'doctors' in Nigeria attended, yet go
about with shoulders highly lifted. So you see,
when I write with this amount of hurting truth,
I'm directly talking to my families. So let it be.
I have always been an advocate that the term
'doctor' be reserved for the academics that go
the extra mile to obtain the highest
educational degree, not a bunch of
opportunists who dumped the appellation of
physician for a more worthy title. For all the
years that I have read my bible, Christ or any
of the leaders there always addressed health
workers as physicians while he refers to the
highly educated ones as 'doctors of law'. What
then is this craze by these general body
physicians that they control the health sector?
What gave the NMA president, Mr. Osahon
Enabulele the impetus to tell his colleagues to
stand by even as the other medical workers go
striking? My visit to a hospital today in Lagos
made a mess of 'General' Osahon order who
feel that they can do the work they are not
trained for. Various calls made to my
colleagues in other states to confirm the state
of the hospitals where they reside confirm that
the entire hospital has been grounded.
I have never had a cause to be treated by any
of the general body physician in my life and
will never be, but I have had reasons to see a
medical laboratory scientist; yes, I have lost
count of reasons where nurses who do all the
dirty jobs have attended to me. I have seen a
family friend died when a physician who
cannot carry out a test asked him to go out of
the hospital gate to do a test before treatment
could be carried out, but died on the way,
holding the test result. I have visited a hospital
where a physician was truthful enough to tell a
stroke patient that they are not trained to
handle such cases, telling him bluntly that his
hope of walking lie with a doctor of
physiotherapy (DPT). I am reliably informed by
one of the NMA executive that the only
medical profession that they don't have the
faintest idea of how they work is the DPT, and
yet one still ask, why the discrepancy among
them.
It is only in Nigeria that a common appointed
minister is above the court of law. If it were
not so, who is Mr. Onyebuchi Chukwu to
disobey a court order, asking him to effect all
the demands of NUMPTAM/JOHESU. Let the
truth be told, their demand is just, fair and
worthy. Why must other government workers
skip grade level 11 and the minister gives
autocratic orders that all other medical
workers apart from physicians must not skip
it? What manner of working practice is it that
clinical specialist are not paid specialist
allowance, when NMA members enjoy such?
What outdated manner of man is the minister
of health to give a directive that Chief Medical
Directors of hospitals should be only from
NMA, when DPT, Optometry and pharmacists
are leading players in the field of medicine?
While I do not make claims for the medical
practitioners, I advocate for their rights been
given to them. That only NMA members should
be appointed as CMDs leaving other medical
professions out amounts to saying only
graduates of Banking/Finance should head the
Central Bank of Nigeria, when there are
graduates of accountancy and economics in the
profession, or succinctly put; that only
graduates of political science should hold
political positions when they have partners in
graduates of government and public
administration. The position of a CMD is
equivalent to chief executive officer and
should be filled by any qualified medical
practitioners, ditto commissioners and
ministers of health.
For a minister to flagrantly disobey a court
order and gets away with it is another dent of
the President Goodluck Jonathan
administration. It goes to show that Mr.
Jonathan day as a vice president were simply
wasted years, since he could not learn the
'rule of law' from President Musa Yaradua,
which was the bench mark of that
administration. For Christ sake, what manner
of ministers do we have? Let someone tell
Onyebuchi that we don't have a minister of
NMA but health. Can Mr. Jonathan be bold
enough to sack this man who the medical
workers have recommended his sack since last
year? Can this man resign his position as a
minister to allow a true health expert take
over? With this medical strike and ASUU strike,
a serious president would have asked both
ministers to submit their resignation letters,
but not Nigeria president. This is the price a
leader pay when he leaves experts and
technocrats to appoint political thieves in
office.
It is time Nigerians call the bluff off these
physicians once and for all the way Governor
Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State did last year.
It is time Nigerians tell them that they are like
the gatemen in the various government
ministries and should not use their pride to
cause innocent Nigerians to die in the hospitals
with no medical officer to attend to them. I
feel their pains as they lie down in their
various wards, praying for the strike to be
called off. I have been in their shoes losing
loved ones not because there are no
physicians, but there was no medical lab
scientist to carry out a test. I have been to the
physiotherapist department in various Nigerian
hospitals and see people wriggling in pains,
mothers crying to have their husbands treated
of strokes, children treated of ebbs palsy,
facial nerve and numerous medical conditions,
yet there was no hope as the DPTs are on
strike. I have known an operation successfully
carried out, but because of the absence of a
nurse to take care of the patient; we lost him.
This is the pain I feel. Pains that the medical
workers don't feel, as they forget the
Hippocratic Oath the very minute they leave
the medical college.
The minister of health is not fit for such a
sensitive position and while his cronies in NMA
who his presence is shielding will not agree to
his sack, let the ears of the president listen to
his medical colleagues who know his ineptitude
and have called for his removal. It is not too
late to bring back Mrs. Dora Akunyili who I
reliably gathered was penciled as health
minister, during the Olusegun Obasanjo
regime, before the NMA politics went through
the back door to stop it. If this strike will
claim the lives of all Nigerians before the
minister of health will be removed; so be it. An
African proverb says, 'Until you lose a loved
one before you realize that other dead bodies
are not sticks'
To you striking medical practitioners; today I
say to you: remember you are fighting more
than your own fight, you are fighting for the
future of your profession and you must stand
together. Break your chains and demand your
rights, for united you bargain but divided you
beg. If there is no struggle, progress is
stagnated.
May the blood of all the patients that may die
as a result of this strike, rest on Mr. Onyebuchi
Chukwu and his generations, now and forever
more; amen.
These little things matter
Fejiro Oliver, a Journalist can be reached on
secretsreporters@gmail.com and
+2348026797588 (sms only please)
Disclaimer: "The views expressed in this
article are the sole responsibility of the
author and do not necessarily reflect those
of The Nigerian Voice. The contents of this
article are of sole responsibility of the
author(s). The Nigerian Voice will not be
responsible or liable for any inaccurate or
incorrect statements contained in this
article." © FEJIRO OLIVER .

Nigeria Medical Workers
Strike: Let Us All Die!
By FEJIRO OLIVER
Silence never won rights. They are not handed
down from above; they are forced by pressure
from below---Roger Baldwin
I have tried very hard to restrain myself from
writing on this tragic strike embarked on by
the medical and health workers union in
Nigeria, but I can no longer hold myself from
writing this short piece, not after what one of
the health practitioners ( who prefers to be
called doctors ) said in a gathering of
intellectuals, that it is the prerogative of
Nigerian Medical Association(NMA) members to
be appointed as commissioners or ministers of
health. Then I knew that he and his colleagues
need to have their heads examined. My
assertion was later justified when I learnt that
he is a psychiatrist specialist who haven
mingled with mad men for years have lost his
sense of reasoning. Call it pride or being
boastful, but I can humbly say that I have
travelled and interacted with men of various
professions including foreign health workers
who are renowned surgeons, experts who at
their magical touch, celebral palsy is gone, but
I am yet to come across any who is as
pompous as Nigerian graduates of medicine.
Let no one say I have been paid for putting up
this reports or that I'm one of the other health
practitioners; far from it. As I matter of fact, I
am married to a member of this arrogant
profession. I have two female cousins who are
surgeons and graduates of Harvard, not these
mushroom universities that the so called
medical 'doctors' in Nigeria attended, yet go
about with shoulders highly lifted. So you see,
when I write with this amount of hurting truth,
I'm directly talking to my families. So let it be.
I have always been an advocate that the term
'doctor' be reserved for the academics that go
the extra mile to obtain the highest
educational degree, not a bunch of
opportunists who dumped the appellation of
physician for a more worthy title. For all the
years that I have read my bible, Christ or any
of the leaders there always addressed health
workers as physicians while he refers to the
highly educated ones as 'doctors of law'. What
then is this craze by these general body
physicians that they control the health sector?
What gave the NMA president, Mr. Osahon
Enabulele the impetus to tell his colleagues to
stand by even as the other medical workers go
striking? My visit to a hospital today in Lagos
made a mess of 'General' Osahon order who
feel that they can do the work they are not
trained for. Various calls made to my
colleagues in other states to confirm the state
of the hospitals where they reside confirm that
the entire hospital has been grounded.
I have never had a cause to be treated by any
of the general body physician in my life and
will never be, but I have had reasons to see a
medical laboratory scientist; yes, I have lost
count of reasons where nurses who do all the
dirty jobs have attended to me. I have seen a
family friend died when a physician who
cannot carry out a test asked him to go out of
the hospital gate to do a test before treatment
could be carried out, but died on the way,
holding the test result. I have visited a hospital
where a physician was truthful enough to tell a
stroke patient that they are not trained to
handle such cases, telling him bluntly that his
hope of walking lie with a doctor of
physiotherapy (DPT). I am reliably informed by
one of the NMA executive that the only
medical profession that they don't have the
faintest idea of how they work is the DPT, and
yet one still ask, why the discrepancy among
them.
It is only in Nigeria that a common appointed
minister is above the court of law. If it were
not so, who is Mr. Onyebuchi Chukwu to
disobey a court order, asking him to effect all
the demands of NUMPTAM/JOHESU. Let the
truth be told, their demand is just, fair and
worthy. Why must other government workers
skip grade level 11 and the minister gives
autocratic orders that all other medical
workers apart from physicians must not skip
it? What manner of working practice is it that
clinical specialist are not paid specialist
allowance, when NMA members enjoy such?
What outdated manner of man is the minister
of health to give a directive that Chief Medical
Directors of hospitals should be only from
NMA, when DPT, Optometry and pharmacists
are leading players in the field of medicine?
While I do not make claims for the medical
practitioners, I advocate for their rights been
given to them. That only NMA members should
be appointed as CMDs leaving other medical
professions out amounts to saying only
graduates of Banking/Finance should head the
Central Bank of Nigeria, when there are
graduates of accountancy and economics in the
profession, or succinctly put; that only
graduates of political science should hold
political positions when they have partners in
graduates of government and public
administration. The position of a CMD is
equivalent to chief executive officer and
should be filled by any qualified medical
practitioners, ditto commissioners and
ministers of health.
For a minister to flagrantly disobey a court
order and gets away with it is another dent of
the President Goodluck Jonathan
administration. It goes to show that Mr.
Jonathan day as a vice president were simply
wasted years, since he could not learn the
'rule of law' from President Musa Yaradua,
which was the bench mark of that
administration. For Christ sake, what manner
of ministers do we have? Let someone tell
Onyebuchi that we don't have a minister of
NMA but health. Can Mr. Jonathan be bold
enough to sack this man who the medical
workers have recommended his sack since last
year? Can this man resign his position as a
minister to allow a true health expert take
over? With this medical strike and ASUU strike,
a serious president would have asked both
ministers to submit their resignation letters,
but not Nigeria president. This is the price a
leader pay when he leaves experts and
technocrats to appoint political thieves in
office.
It is time Nigerians call the bluff off these
physicians once and for all the way Governor
Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State did last year.
It is time Nigerians tell them that they are like
the gatemen in the various government
ministries and should not use their pride to
cause innocent Nigerians to die in the hospitals
with no medical officer to attend to them. I
feel their pains as they lie down in their
various wards, praying for the strike to be
called off. I have been in their shoes losing
loved ones not because there are no
physicians, but there was no medical lab
scientist to carry out a test. I have been to the
physiotherapist department in various Nigerian
hospitals and see people wriggling in pains,
mothers crying to have their husbands treated
of strokes, children treated of ebbs palsy,
facial nerve and numerous medical conditions,
yet there was no hope as the DPTs are on
strike. I have known an operation successfully
carried out, but because of the absence of a
nurse to take care of the patient; we lost him.
This is the pain I feel. Pains that the medical
workers don't feel, as they forget the
Hippocratic Oath the very minute they leave
the medical college.
The minister of health is not fit for such a
sensitive position and while his cronies in NMA
who his presence is shielding will not agree to
his sack, let the ears of the president listen to
his medical colleagues who know his ineptitude
and have called for his removal. It is not too
late to bring back Mrs. Dora Akunyili who I
reliably gathered was penciled as health
minister, during the Olusegun Obasanjo
regime, before the NMA politics went through
the back door to stop it. If this strike will
claim the lives of all Nigerians before the
minister of health will be removed; so be it. An
African proverb says, 'Until you lose a loved
one before you realize that other dead bodies
are not sticks'
To you striking medical practitioners; today I
say to you: remember you are fighting more
than your own fight, you are fighting for the
future of your profession and you must stand
together. Break your chains and demand your
rights, for united you bargain but divided you
beg. If there is no struggle, progress is
stagnated.
May the blood of all the patients that may die
as a result of this strike, rest on Mr. Onyebuchi
Chukwu and his generations, now and forever
more; amen.
These little things matter
Fejiro Oliver, a Journalist can be reached on
secretsreporters@gmail.com and
+2348026797588 (sms only please)
Disclaimer: "The views expressed in this
article are the sole responsibility of the
author and do not necessarily reflect those
of The Nigerian Voice. The contents of this
article are of sole responsibility of the
author(s). The Nigerian Voice will not be
responsible or liable for any inaccurate or
incorrect statements contained in this
article." © FEJIRO OLIVER .

Nigeria Medical Workers
Strike: Let Us All Die!
By FEJIRO OLIVER
Silence never won rights. They are not handed
down from above; they are forced by pressure
from below---Roger Baldwin
I have tried very hard to restrain myself from
writing on this tragic strike embarked on by
the medical and health workers union in
Nigeria, but I can no longer hold myself from
writing this short piece, not after what one of
the health practitioners ( who prefers to be
called doctors ) said in a gathering of
intellectuals, that it is the prerogative of
Nigerian Medical Association(NMA) members to
be appointed as commissioners or ministers of
health. Then I knew that he and his colleagues
need to have their heads examined. My
assertion was later justified when I learnt that
he is a psychiatrist specialist who haven
mingled with mad men for years have lost his
sense of reasoning. Call it pride or being
boastful, but I can humbly say that I have
travelled and interacted with men of various
professions including foreign health workers
who are renowned surgeons, experts who at
their magical touch, celebral palsy is gone, but
I am yet to come across any who is as
pompous as Nigerian graduates of medicine.
Let no one say I have been paid for putting up
this reports or that I'm one of the other health
practitioners; far from it. As I matter of fact, I
am married to a member of this arrogant
profession. I have two female cousins who are
surgeons and graduates of Harvard, not these
mushroom universities that the so called
medical 'doctors' in Nigeria attended, yet go
about with shoulders highly lifted. So you see,
when I write with this amount of hurting truth,
I'm directly talking to my families. So let it be.
I have always been an advocate that the term
'doctor' be reserved for the academics that go
the extra mile to obtain the highest
educational degree, not a bunch of
opportunists who dumped the appellation of
physician for a more worthy title. For all the
years that I have read my bible, Christ or any
of the leaders there always addressed health
workers as physicians while he refers to the
highly educated ones as 'doctors of law'. What
then is this craze by these general body
physicians that they control the health sector?
What gave the NMA president, Mr. Osahon
Enabulele the impetus to tell his colleagues to
stand by even as the other medical workers go
striking? My visit to a hospital today in Lagos
made a mess of 'General' Osahon order who
feel that they can do the work they are not
trained for. Various calls made to my
colleagues in other states to confirm the state
of the hospitals where they reside confirm that
the entire hospital has been grounded.
I have never had a cause to be treated by any
of the general body physician in my life and
will never be, but I have had reasons to see a
medical laboratory scientist; yes, I have lost
count of reasons where nurses who do all the
dirty jobs have attended to me. I have seen a
family friend died when a physician who
cannot carry out a test asked him to go out of
the hospital gate to do a test before treatment
could be carried out, but died on the way,
holding the test result. I have visited a hospital
where a physician was truthful enough to tell a
stroke patient that they are not trained to
handle such cases, telling him bluntly that his
hope of walking lie with a doctor of
physiotherapy (DPT). I am reliably informed by
one of the NMA executive that the only
medical profession that they don't have the
faintest idea of how they work is the DPT, and
yet one still ask, why the discrepancy among
them.
It is only in Nigeria that a common appointed
minister is above the court of law. If it were
not so, who is Mr. Onyebuchi Chukwu to
disobey a court order, asking him to effect all
the demands of NUMPTAM/JOHESU. Let the
truth be told, their demand is just, fair and
worthy. Why must other government workers
skip grade level 11 and the minister gives
autocratic orders that all other medical
workers apart from physicians must not skip
it? What manner of working practice is it that
clinical specialist are not paid specialist
allowance, when NMA members enjoy such?
What outdated manner of man is the minister
of health to give a directive that Chief Medical
Directors of hospitals should be only from
NMA, when DPT, Optometry and pharmacists
are leading players in the field of medicine?
While I do not make claims for the medical
practitioners, I advocate for their rights been
given to them. That only NMA members should
be appointed as CMDs leaving other medical
professions out amounts to saying only
graduates of Banking/Finance should head the
Central Bank of Nigeria, when there are
graduates of accountancy and economics in the
profession, or succinctly put; that only
graduates of political science should hold
political positions when they have partners in
graduates of government and public
administration. The position of a CMD is
equivalent to chief executive officer and
should be filled by any qualified medical
practitioners, ditto commissioners and
ministers of health.
For a minister to flagrantly disobey a court
order and gets away with it is another dent of
the President Goodluck Jonathan
administration. It goes to show that Mr.
Jonathan day as a vice president were simply
wasted years, since he could not learn the
'rule of law' from President Musa Yaradua,
which was the bench mark of that
administration. For Christ sake, what manner
of ministers do we have? Let someone tell
Onyebuchi that we don't have a minister of
NMA but health. Can Mr. Jonathan be bold
enough to sack this man who the medical
workers have recommended his sack since last
year? Can this man resign his position as a
minister to allow a true health expert take
over? With this medical strike and ASUU strike,
a serious president would have asked both
ministers to submit their resignation letters,
but not Nigeria president. This is the price a
leader pay when he leaves experts and
technocrats to appoint political thieves in
office.
It is time Nigerians call the bluff off these
physicians once and for all the way Governor
Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State did last year.
It is time Nigerians tell them that they are like
the gatemen in the various government
ministries and should not use their pride to
cause innocent Nigerians to die in the hospitals
with no medical officer to attend to them. I
feel their pains as they lie down in their
various wards, praying for the strike to be
called off. I have been in their shoes losing
loved ones not because there are no
physicians, but there was no medical lab
scientist to carry out a test. I have been to the
physiotherapist department in various Nigerian
hospitals and see people wriggling in pains,
mothers crying to have their husbands treated
of strokes, children treated of ebbs palsy,
facial nerve and numerous medical conditions,
yet there was no hope as the DPTs are on
strike. I have known an operation successfully
carried out, but because of the absence of a
nurse to take care of the patient; we lost him.
This is the pain I feel. Pains that the medical
workers don't feel, as they forget the
Hippocratic Oath the very minute they leave
the medical college.
The minister of health is not fit for such a
sensitive position and while his cronies in NMA
who his presence is shielding will not agree to
his sack, let the ears of the president listen to
his medical colleagues who know his ineptitude
and have called for his removal. It is not too
late to bring back Mrs. Dora Akunyili who I
reliably gathered was penciled as health
minister, during the Olusegun Obasanjo
regime, before the NMA politics went through
the back door to stop it. If this strike will
claim the lives of all Nigerians before the
minister of health will be removed; so be it. An
African proverb says, 'Until you lose a loved
one before you realize that other dead bodies
are not sticks'
To you striking medical practitioners; today I
say to you: remember you are fighting more
than your own fight, you are fighting for the
future of your profession and you must stand
together. Break your chains and demand your
rights, for united you bargain but divided you
beg. If there is no struggle, progress is
stagnated.
May the blood of all the patients that may die
as a result of this strike, rest on Mr. Onyebuchi
Chukwu and his generations, now and forever
more; amen.
These little things matter
Fejiro Oliver, a Journalist can be reached on
secretsreporters@gmail.com and
+2348026797588 (sms only please)
Disclaimer: "The views expressed in this
article are the sole responsibility of the
author and do not necessarily reflect those
of The Nigerian Voice. The contents of this
article are of sole responsibility of the
author(s). The Nigerian Voice will not be
responsible or liable for any inaccurate or
incorrect statements contained in this
article." © FEJIRO OLIVER .

Hearme: You don't know jack about the politics in the Healy sector, ask OBJ who appointed a Parasitologist; a non medic as minister of health. Even among the doctors, there is a serious discrimination among surgeons and non surgeons. Surgeons wants the minister of health to be called Surgeon general. Its already a practice in the army, as only surgeons get to head the medical corps

OBJ is very intelligent he will not want to b caught up in a mess like this, he will rather appoint a neutral person, if it get to dis stage.

Dnaz: Cut d Crap hematologists, chem pathologists,medical microbiologists, pathologists and radiologists are doctors and dey are licensed to do what d lab technicians and radiographers(camera men) do and in addition to dat diagnose and treat, about d nurses dere is no where it is said dat a doctor can't do d work of a nurse we just opted out so we can make d work less stressful 4 ourselves. Nobody is insulting any profession, its just dat u have chosen to look down on urselves and hence has been consumed with inferiority complex. The Hospital is d Doctors constituency and nobody can take dat from us. Afterall even if u get d money to build a hospital, u can't be d chief medical director, what am I even saying, u won't be licensed to practise unless u get a doctor to be ur MD

Must i keep explaining things to you, the hematologists, chem pathologists,medical microbiologists, pathologists are not medical laboratory scientist but pathologist doctors, by the law in Federal republic of nigeria 2003 Act No. 11, the only body recognized by law to oversee the practice of medical laboratoy in nigeria is medical laboratory science council of nigeria (MLSCN), so anyone not registered by this body working in a medical laboratory is only performing quackery, doctors a word is enough for d wise i hope some of u will not land in jail, if u are still confused u can speak with ur lawyer.

Dnaz: A doctor sees a patient and orders for an investigation to confirm or rule out a diagnosis, a lab scientist ll now cme and say d doctor didn't send 4 d right investigation(what d hell does he know abt which inv d patient needs, His work is to do d damn test period), or maybe a nurse ll start arguing diagnosis with a doctor( WTF does she know abt making diagnosis, can she defend herself if litigation comes)a pharmacist who shuld stick to producing drugs ll start prescribing drugs 4 a patient. When this happens den our health sector ll be in serious Crisis

so y cant Doctors see dia patient only, and leave administration of the hospital to a health administrator

Dnaz: All you guys run shifts yet u want call duty allowances, it ll not happen in dis country and it doesn't happen anywhere else in d world, I wonder if u guys want to start practising a diff kind of health practise from d world. Anyway we have already started taking over laboratory and radiological medicine it only a matter of years.yeah we can do everythin u guys do. Please my people Hospitals are Open bring ur sick ones

This is exactly the pictures of what happen in d health sector, d Doctors have no respect for other professional, they know everything instead of allowing everyone to do dia work, they want to head everywhere even what they were not trained to do, they can do everything my friend dat is quackery cos u re not licence to do dat and u can go to jail if u do it, remember u are playing with human lifes and not goats

blessedjosh: Your comments pls. What do you think about the federal medival dotors strike? The bone of contention is that the doctor doesn't necesarily have to be the head if the medical team. And that nurses, pharmcist,lab. Scientist and technicians can also be consultants, chief medical directors, commissioner of health and ministers of health? And should they strike. , shutting hospitals nationwide for these issues? What should the FG do in the circumstance ?

i Believe everyone should treated equally without any discrimination or favourism to any profession, and i know dat we have health administrator that can head d health sectors, if d FGN can do just dis all issues will b resolved.

Dnaz: There is no way d govt ll concede to deir claims rather health administrators ll start running hospitals which ll still take time to be accomplished cos dere is no course like health administration in nigeria, making deir salaries at par with doctors will only cause chaos in d health sector likewise deir so called consultancy, all this things ll cause chaos and d govt ll not allow dat, first if deir salary is increased, it ll have to be met with a proportionate increase in doctors salary of wich d govt don't have dat kind of money. So let dem cont deir gragra wen dey r tired dey ll call d strike off

so y dont we have health administrators in nigeria, because doctors have push them out of d system for dia selfish intrest and politicized the health sectors, y will i study a course when i knew i have no place to work in nigeria, mind you we have health administrators in nigeria, if only the Doctors will allow them to perform dia duty.

kinkymax: yu re a fool. Dis is hw it is done evrywhr not onli in nig. D med doctor is d head of a med team. Under no conditn wil a nurse or pharmacist or lab techni head d health sector neva done. Hw wil dey b receivin same salary wt d doctors. Neva!! Den dey av to go bak to skul to study hard for medicine nt all dos 3yr nursin skul dey went to or half baked health tech skul dey wnt to and nw dey av d guts to say dey wana receiv same salary wt doctors. Dey wana bcom cmd of hosp dey re bunch of ididots. Dos nurses wey no sabi anytn other dan to gist n gossip in d wards dey talk too. Total rubbish FG can neva ansa des stupid ppl. If u wana b doctors medical skul is opened for evrybodi is neva too late. Rubbish

maybe u were not on this planet to know the difference between med. lab. scientist and lab. technician, a medical lab. scientist spent 5yrs in the university and after dat a 1yr intership and, we now have nusrsing been studied in the university, i believe u know that pharmacy is now a 6yr programme hence they are Also called Doctors of pharmacy, so when next commenting get ur facts right, so pharmacist, med. lab. scientist, nurses, physiotherapy, image scientist all attend university and are all professional, so y are trying to lie to everyone, university of ibadan and LAUTECH is offering medical lab. science and some of dis courses

Zipper002: Ur point exactly...??
Total rubbish.
Wen next u are in the hospital look for a nurse to attend to u or a lab technician.

so only Doctors attend to patients in the hospital, and do ur research very well b/4 posting any Comment they are called med. lab. scientist not not lab technician, lab. technician are junior staff to med. lab. scientist in the laboratory, try to learn and respect other other professionals in health sectors, if u have respected other professional, i believe nigeria health sector will not be where we are today, respect is reciprocal, you dont gain what you dont earn

virie: .
you are obviously very ignorant..diagnosis is clinical in most instances that doesn't rule out lab work ..I'm sure you work in one of those abattoirs you talked about..it's obvious your grouse is against doctors not necessarily because you want a better health sector..stop the beef...doctors aren't anti-other health affiliates..

if doctors aren't anti-other health professionals y is every professional in the health sector saying thesame thing, atleast one out of all d professional should have come out and defend the Doctors

virie: your very funny to say the least..in the private sector do you hear of doctors running pharmacies or laboratories..I'm sure your answer is no..neither do you see the pharmacists or other health professionals being in charge of hospitals..well if want to run hospitals get the laws changed then.. the public sector is a mirror image of the private sector..besides Nigeria is no different from most other countries ..where the system operates as it is currently...if e dey pain u too much go read medicine okay..berra still be civil and await the appeal court ruling.

we have politicized everything in nigeria instead of letting professional handle things, look what we have turn our health sector into, a reasonable person know that when only doctors said something is right and all other professonal in health sector i.e pharmacist, med. lab. scientist, nursing, physiotherapy, Dietician and so on said something is not right, then we all know people who are afraid of change for the best of the patients due to dia selfish intrest.

honey86: How would you feel if your child is that price?.

what you dont understand is that a graduate who is professional in is own field i.e pharmacist, med. lab. scientist are been oppress while discharging dia duty by another professional i.e Doctor, and you expect them to keep working under such condition, in dia own country.

[quote author=virie]...guy dis ur English sef!!
...guy dis ur English sef!![/qu
English Man, dats the truth, the fact that many things are wrong in this country does not mean everyone should keep quiet, if a doctor kill a patient due to his negligence, who will investigate him, when doctors are the head of a hospitals, even madman will never rope himself when guilty

virie: your very funny to say the least..in the private sector do you hear of doctors running pharmacies or laboratories..I'm sure your answer is no..neither do you see the pharmacists or other health professionals being in charge of hospitals..well if want to run hospitals get the laws changed then.. the public sector is a mirror image of the private sector..besides Nigeria is no different from most other countries ..where the system operates as it is currently...if e dey pain u too much go read medicine okay..berra still be civil and await the appeal court ruling.

Your problem is that you dont know the differnce between administration and medical, we have people who study aministration and understand how administration should be run, pharmacist or med. lab. scientist are not saying they want to run the a hospital, they are only saying dont put an accountant to replace a pilot to drive a plane, go to UK, you will underatand who an health administrators,

virie: For starters doctors are working nationwide..neither are doctors lording it over other health workers, lab scientists/pharmacists dont own hospitals they own pharmacies and laboratories..it doesnt make sense for either to head a hospital since doctors own hospitals.
As regards the lab scientists confirming a diagnosis doctors can arrive at a diagnosis without lab results on most occasions...we are waiting on the appeal court ruling..in the meanwhile sick people can come to the hospitals jooo..

Is Doctors the only professional working in an hispital, so how can you said the Doctors own the hospital, he who think he knows all is a fool, the hospital can only be manage by an HEALTH ADMINISTRATORS, tell me what a Doctor knows about administration of an Establishment, when a Doctor is suppose to take care of his/ her patients.

armadeo: So the doctors are the reason health workers are on strike, but from what I read they are not part of the strike.
Interesting. Can u make available the list of demands health workers made for puiblic scrutiny. Thanks

1. As a result of the obvious unwillingness of the
Federal Ministry of Health to obey and comply
with the judgement of the National Industrial
Court of Nigeria (NICN) regarding the withdrawal
of the obnoxious Non-skipping of CONHESS 10
Circular; Consultants/Specialists allowance
circular and non-implementation of the 2009
Collectively bargained agreement as enshrined in
the CONHESS Circular, the Joint Health Sector
Unions have resolved to embark on an idefinite
and comprehensive industrial action to press
home our demands.
2. The Hon. Minister of Health has refused to
respond to the 21-day Ultimatum earlier
submitted to him by the Unions and the
Assembly of Healthcare Professional
Associations. Neither the Minister nor the his
officials attended the mediation meeting
surmoned by the Hon. Minister of Labour &
Productivity yesterday to address the issues
raised by labour in the ultimatum.
3. The continued violation of statutory schemes
of service and collectively bargainged and signed
agreement by the authorities in the FMOH and
hospitals in Nigeria will no longer be tolerated.
It has therefore become imperative that we have
no choice than to withdraw services to press
home our demands in line with the strike
directive by the Joint Health Sector Unions
(JOHESU).

armadeo: So the doctors are the reason health workers are on strike, but from what I read they are not part of the strike.
Interesting. Can u make available the list of demands health workers made for puiblic scrutiny. Thanks

Health workers begin strike
on August 21, 2013 vanguard
By Sola Ogundipe & Victoria Ojeme
DARK clouds have gathered over the fortunes of
the health sector yet again as workers of all
Federal tertiary health institutions nationwide,
under Joint Health Sector Unions will embark on
an indefinite strike from 12 midnight today.
In a statement issued yesterday, the unions
noted that the strike was called at the expiration
of a 21-day ultimatum issued to government on
the August 1, to accede to the 10-point demand
and agreements reached on May 10, 2012.
The statement was signed by National President
and Secretary-General, Medical & Health
Workers’ Union of Nigeria, Mr. Ayuba Wabba,
and Mr. Marcus Omokhuale, respectively;
National President, National Association of
Universities, Teaching Hospitals, Research
Institutes and Association Institution, Mr. Adeniji
A. and the Ag. General Secretary, National
Association of Nigeria Nurses and Midwives, Mr.
Yusuf Badmus W.
It said members of the unions at the states and
local governments health facilities are expected
to join the strike as from 12 midnight by August
28.
Recalling the events that led to the current face-
off, the unions pointed out that at a meeting
called by the Minister of Labour and
Productivity on Monday, August 19, neither the
Minister of Health nor his representative
attended the meeting.
They also recalled an earlier meeting, where it
was resolved that items agreed upon required
the action of the Ministry of Health on or
before May 29, 2012, to allow the Technical
Working Group commence its sitting.

armadeo: So the doctors are the reason health workers are on strike, but from what I read they are not part of the strike.
Interesting. Can u make available the list of demands health workers made for puiblic scrutiny. Thanks

HEALTH STRIKE: FG CONFUSED BY
COURT RULING
August 22, 2013 by | Filed in news | No
comments
Federal government did not implement
the ruling of the National Industrial Court into
its long-running dispute with health workers
because it found the court’s ruling on two
major issues “confusing”, said health minister,
Onyebuchi Chukwu.
But health workers said the ministry agreed to
abide by the ruling even before going to court
and that reneging showed no respect for rule
of law.
The Federal Ministry of Health, embroiled
in industrial dispute with the Joint Health
Sector Unions, appealed the court’s ruling
early August on the advice of its legal counsel.
“The memo [from the counsel to the
FMOH legal unit to the minister] suggested the
minister should allow an appeal by government
on the grounds that the judgement was
confusing,” said Chukwu Thursday afternoon,
hours after support staff in federal
government-run hospitals went on strike.
According to Chukwu, the major confusion
in the ten-point agreement reached between
both sides since May 2012 is the
union’s insistence on skipping (allowing
workers in line to promotion to
principal officials to skip CONHESS 10) and
extending the designation of consultants
to others outside the medical profession in
hospitals.
The ministry expected the court to
decide whether government policy ruling
skipping in any state establishment was
right or wrong, said the minister.
“But the court said because they had
been skipping before, what government should
have done was to negotiate with them.”
The court also ruled government
held prerogative to designate consultants
outside federal hospitals, but that “people who
had been previously given that [appointment]
in error or not should be allowed to enjoy.
On designating consultants outside
federal hospitals, said the minister, the court
ruled appointing consultants was a federal
government prerogative but said existing
appointees should be allowed to remain in
position, while the move is halted.
“It is a bit confusing,” said Chukwu.
“Where the court has agreed it is wrong for
anybody outside the ministry of health
to answer consultant, but if an error has
occured by any agent of the ministry, they
should allow that. It is a bit confusing too.”
Chukwu said government counsel have
served appeal papers on JOHESU but the union
said it categorically received none.
It said FMOH contravened a collective bargain
agreement both sides reached before the
dispute went to court at the request of the
labour ministry.
JOHESU president, Dr Ayuba Wabba, said
four of the 10-point agreement went to court
because the ministry decided it could not
implement them and wanted the court to
“adjudicate on it. And they agreed that
whatever is the pronouncement of the court,
they are going to respect it.”
He said none of the contents of the agreement
had been implemented, and that filing an
appeal was “not a stay on execution” to stop
implementation of the agreements.
Hours after the strike started on
Wednesday midnight, the ministry said it was
ready to meet with JOHESU as early as
Monday to deliberate on ways of ending the
current impasse.
Chukwu said he was still “waiting for
them [JOHESU] to accept the date.”
JOHESU—an umbrella body of
nurses, midwives, allied health professionals in
hospitals and other tertiary institutions—said it
was “open to discussion.”
Meanwhile, hospital activities slowed
as support staff abandoned duty.
Correspondents visiting University of
Abuja Teaching Hospital saw doctors attending
to patients but nursing stations were deserted
and patients had to go outside hospital
premises to buy drugs on
prescription.
Nigerian Medical Association told its members
to remain on duty to guarantee “uninterrupted
services” and urged hospital chiefs to ensure
“adequate security.”

Zeeemo: The love of Money and Benefits over the lives of Innocent people...How Sad

mind you the doctors are not on strike, maybe you should try and do your investigation properly b4 commenting, because the Doctors are not the only profesional working in the hospital, the health worker are only asking for equal right in the health sector, and not be treated like a second hand citizen in dia country, and if you graduated ur other colleagues are place on level 9 as entry point, but only u are place level 8 for no reason, just because the doctors dont like u and they are the head, you would just accept your faith, and you are not allow to get promotion upto a Director level in your profession, the DOCTORS are the problem of health sector.

the doctors are the problem of health sectors, Doctors are not on strike, but other health workers, they think they know it all and want to be head of pharmacists, medical laboratory scientist, nurses, physiotherapy, and dont want other profession to go higher like they are enjoying, they even have the guts to withold other profession promotion letters and made them stagnant without attaining Director level, now every other profession are asking for what belong to them, since they can do everything let them do it alone.

whenever it happen again, dont fight it relax and listen to ur inner self, remember the story of samuel in the bible, go inwardly within ur self (mind), u will find answer to all ur questions, and be free, then read alot about soul travel.

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If we should still be following everything in the bible and quran maybe some of those senators making this useless law will still be slave, in modern day, since both religion talk about slaves without any crime.

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