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Business / Re: Sterling Bank Gives Customer Smart Phone For Opening Sterling Plus Account: Pics by eternalifee: 4:17pm On Sep 14, 2015
Before you get excited about this smart phone, it might just be important that you read the conditions attached, as stated in the bank's web page.
They are as follows:


TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR NEW STERLING PLUS ACCOUNT WITH FREE MOBILE SMART TELEPHONE

You must open the Sterling Plus Account with a minimum opening and daily balance of N5, 000.00 (Five thousand Naira) only.

By signing off on this document means you have attained the age of 18 years as at the date of opening this account.

A minimum of N50,000.00 (Fifty-Thousand Naira) only must be maintained in your Sterling Plus Account for a minimum period of (90) ninety days to be eligible for the mobile smart phone which is exclusive of the daily minimum balance of N5,000.00 (Five Thousand Naira)

A restriction will be placed on the N50, 000.00 (Fifty-Thousand Naira) balance on your Sterling Plus Account before the mobile smart phone is released to you.

You shall not withdraw from the deposit of N50, 000.00 (Fifty-Thousand Naira) in your Sterling Plus Account throughout the (90) ninety day period.

In the event that you intend to access the funds within the stipulated eligibility period of (90) ninety days, the cost of the mobile smart phone at the prevailing market price shall be deducted from the funds in your Sterling Plus Account.

You shall also ensure that your account is active for a minimum period of 1 year during which funds must be made available to accommodate Monthly Service Charge

Failure to operate your account for the minimum period stated above will result in the deduction of the accumulated service charges from your N5,000 minimum balance and closure of your account

The grant/Release of the mobile smart phone is subject to stock availability and the Bank shall not be liable upon depletion of existing stock.

Sterling Bank Plc shall provide you with your first choice of color for the mobile smart phone subject to availability. The Bank however shall not be held liable in the event that the choice color is not available and a substitute color is provided.

The Bank shall not be held liable for any event that may lead to the development of faults or loss of the smart mobile phone.

Upon acceptance of these terms and conditions and delivery of the free mobile smart phone, the phone cannot be returned by you.

If you do not meet the terms and conditions herein, or in the event of circumstances outside the control of Sterling Bank Plc or there is material
adverse change in the operating environment, the Bank reserves the right to cancel or amend these terms and conditions.


I agree to the terms and conditions stated above.
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Religion / Re: A TRINITARIAN Should Explain This Scripture .... by eternalifee: 3:10pm On Jan 15, 2015
BIBLESPEAKS:
Or rather, trinitarians should answer these questions:

If Jesus is Almighty God...

1. Then why is "God head of Christ just as Christ is head of man"? (1 Cor. 11:3)

2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a separate person from God? (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.)

3. Then how can Jesus have a God? Could Almighty God have a God? (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12)

4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and is part of Creation? (Col. 1:15)

5. Then why does Rev. 3:14 say that Jesus is "the beginning of the creation of God"?

6. Then why is he subject to GOD, like we're subject to him? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28; Eph. 1:17)

7. Then why does Micah 5:2 say that Jesus' ORIGIN was “from early times”?

8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matt. 24:36, Rev.1:1; Luke 8:45)

9. Then why is Jesus still subject to God when he is as high as he will ever be? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28)

10. Then why does Proverbs 8:22-31 show that the Messiah was CREATED / PRODUCED by God?

11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1 Cor. 15:27, Eph. 1:17, 22)

12. Then why would he have to be given any power and authority? (Mt. 28:18; 11:27; Jn. 5:22; 17:2; 3:35; 2 Pet. 1:17)

13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Heb. 5:8; John 5:19; 8:28)

14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Mt. 12:31,32; Luke 12:10)

15. Then why did Jesus call the "Father...the only true God"? (John 17:3)

16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Heb. 5:7; John 12:27)

17. Then why did he have to be exalted to Leader and Savior? (Acts 5:31)

18. Then how could he be exalted and given a higher name than he had? (Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 1:2-4)

19. Then why did he have to be given life in himself? (John 5:25,26)

20. Then how can the Father be greater than he? (John 14:28)

21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan when God cannot be tempted with evil? (James 1:13)

22. Then why did he worship the Father? (John 4:22)

23. Then why can he not do anything on his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)

24. Then why would he pray to anybody? (Luke 22:44; John 17:1,2; Heb. 5:7)

25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1 John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's "only BEGOTTEN Son"? ASV

26. Then how can he be God's servant? (Acts 4:26,27,30)

27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)

28. Then how could he be a mediator between God and man? (1 Tim. 2:5)

29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)

30. Then how can he be God's image? (Col. 1:15; Heb. 1:3)

31. Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the Originator (ek)? (1 Cor. 8:6; John 1:1-3; Prov. 8:30; Heb. 2:10; Col. 1:15,16)

32. Then why did Jesus say GOD was "good" in a way that Jesus was not? (Mark 10:18)

33. Then why does he have an archangel's voice instead of God's voice? (1 Thess. 4:16)

34. Then why is the only "worship" given to him the same given to humans? (Heb. 1:6, cf. Mt. 18:26; Rev. 3:9 - "Proskuneo"

35. Then why do many who believe this rely on a few selected, so-called 'proof-texts' instead of the context of the consistent teaching of the entire Bible?

36. Then how could he be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49; Deut. 18:18)

37. Then why did Steven see two separate entities, GOD and Jesus, and not just one God or three persons? (Acts 7:55)

38. Then how could he be seen at GOD's right hand? (Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Rom. 8:34)

39. Then how could Jesus be exalted (not to become God Himself, but) to the position of the "right hand OF God"? (Acts 2:33)

40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God? (Rev.1:1)

41. Then why is he called God's "begotten" Son before he came to earth? (John 3:16; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:9)

42. Then how could he have a Father? (John 20:17)

43. Then how could he come in flesh? (1 Kings 8:27; Acts 17:24,25)

44. Then why did he not come in his own name? (John 5:41-44)

45. Then why did Jesus "come down from heaven to do" God's will and not his own will? (Luke 22:42; John 6:38; John 5:30; John 8:42)

46. Then how could he appear before GOD? (Heb. 9:24)

47. Then how could he die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Rom. 5:10; Acts 5:30; 1 Cor. 15:3; Hab.1:12; cf. 1 Tim. 6:16; Num. 23:19; Ps. 90:2; Dan. 6:25-26)

48. Then why is it that God resurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32)

49. Then why can we see him if "no man has seen God at any time"? (John 1:18)

50. Then why is there not one clear Scripture where Jesus is called "God the Son," (equal to those declaring "God, the Father)?

51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but neither the Jewish officials nor even one of these false witnesses made a claim that he was God or equally God? (Matt. 26:59-67)

52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe "that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God." Why is there is no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the most important thing of all - that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)

53. How could Jesus teach in the Jewish synagogues and the temple? This would never happen if any of the authorities believed he claimed to be God (or that his followers believed such a thing). - Matt. 26:55; John 7:14, 28. Matt. 4:23.

54. How could Jesus' followers teach in Jewish synagogues after Jesus' death and for the remainder of that first century (at least)? Again, this would not have been allowed if there were any suspicion that they believed Jesus to be God. Acts 9:20; 13:5, Acts 13:13-15.


If the Holy Spirit is Almighty God...

1. Then why do quotes from Trinitarians admit that the Holy Spirit is not God but rather is a force from God?

2. Then why would Jews instructed in the Old Testament scriptures and in the teachings of John the Baptist, NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS? (Acts 19:2)

3. Then why isn't the Holy Spirit given equal description in the Bible?

4. Then why didn't Jesus ever teach that the Holy Spirit was God along with the Father and Son?

5. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as an "it"? (Is. 34:16 ASV, KJV; Numbers 11:17, 25 ASV, KJV, RSV, NRSV, AT, LB, NEB, REB, NAB, JB, NJB; and Romans 8:16, 26 in the KJV.)

6. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as a thing that can be poured out into portions? (Acts 2:17, 18, 33; Numbers 11:17, 25)

7. Then why is the holy spirit nameless and indistinguishable from all of the other holy spirits?

8. Then why did the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD disregard the Holy Spirit as a member of the Godhead when they made Jesus 'God' in 325 AD? Why did they wait until the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD to include the Holy Spirit in the formula?

9. Then wouldn't the water and blood be persons too according to Trinitarian reasoning and 1 John 5:8?

10. Then why is the Holy Spirit sandwiched between a list of QUALITIES at 2 Cor. 6:6?

11. Then why does the NT Greek Lexicon describes the Holy Spirit as "this" at Acts 2:33?

12. Then why is it that nowhere in the Bible is the Holy Spirit ever said to be an equal member of a trinity?

13. Then why is it that nowhere is it mentioned in the Bible the words, "God, the Holy Spirit," or "The Holy Spirit is God"?

14. Then why is it that there is never mentioned a vision, dream or clear description in scripture wherein God and the Holy Spirit are shown as the same person?

If the Trinity Doctrine is a Bible teaching...

1. Then why do NUMEROUS encyclopedias agree that

"... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity"? – p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D.

2. Then why do many encyclopedias, dictionaries and other sources (including Sir Isaac Newton) agree that the "Trinity was a pagan corruption imposed on Christianity in the fourth century by Athanasius"?

3. Then why does the Bible consistently identify God by singular person pronouns: "I, "Me," "He, and "Him" instead of "We", "Us", "They" or "Them"?

4. Then why does 2 Cor. 13:14 say that the Lord Jesus Christ is one individual, the Holy Spirit is another individual (whether a person or a thing), and that "GOD" IS ANOTHER DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL?

5. Then why is there not even one Scripture which clearly defines the Trinity?

6. Then why is there not even one Scripture of a vision, dream, or CLEAR description wherein God is shown as three persons?

7. Then why is there not even one Scripture where God is described using the word "three"?



A BRIEF RESPONSE:
Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1), which the Qur'an in Surah 3 (I think verse 45 or 145 - My Qur'an is not at hand right now) testifies, calling Him the "Word of God from Allah". This means He came from within the Father, just as your words come from within you. John 1:18 explains as much when it states that Jesus came from "the BOSOM of the Father" (which is why He is also called "only begotten" Son - the only One born from inside God).

This Word of God then became flesh (John 1:12), in line with God's promise and resolve to redeem and ransom us from destruction Himself by providing a Lamb to take away our debt of sin (John 1:29). So the Word of God, coming from within God, therefore being God himself, came to pay the double price (Isaiah 40:2) for our sins. Acts 20:28 supports this when it states that God bought/redeemed the Church "with HIS OWN blood".

Moreover, John 12:39-41 tells us that it was Jesus the Prophet Isaiah saw as God in Isaiah 6:1-10, when "he saw His glory and spoke of Him". The same prophet calls Him "Mighty God" (Yes, Jesus is a MIGHTY God, not a small god) in Isaiah 9:6. On His own part, the Lord identifies Himself as "the Alpha and omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the last" (Revelations 22:13). These are titles that refer solely to God, as can be seen in Revelation 1:8.

On Jesus' appearing before God in heaven, it is because the work of salvation, atonement, redemption, propitiation of mankind before God still continues, since we (all humanity)are still in the process of accepting and being cleansed and justified by Christ's atoning work. So He still stands before God as the atonement for all who accept Him, and the still-open door for those who will repent to receive His salvation (2 John 2:1-2). But this will end when the kingdom of God fully comes (1 Corinthians 15:28). Then there shall be only "one LORD, and His name one" (Zechariah 14:9).

But let us know that we needn't understand everything about rocket science before we decide to become students of space science. So our limited knowledge of Christ's nature should not be used as a stumbling block to prevent us from opening our hearts to accept His salvation and cleansing programme. The offer is still open to us all, but it will end when we die ( Hebrews 9:27). Let us accept Him NOW, and then ask questions where we need clarifications, as we continue. Remember, you cannot boast of tomorrow (Proverbs 27:1, James 4:14,15), so you cannot spend all the day arguing over the truth, at the expense of your salvation (Deuteronomy 29:29).

Turn to Him, and he will receive you, cleanse you, and give you a new life, fit for his kingdom (Acts 2:38).
Religion / Re: A TRINITARIAN Should Explain This Scripture .... by eternalifee: 3:07pm On Jan 15, 2015
CAPTIVATOR:
Welcome ... Can u try to explain this :

" For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands .... But he entered into heavens itself, so that he now appears before God on our behalf ." !! Heb 9:24

Pls, Did christ appear before himself ??


EXPLANATION :
Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1), which the Qur'an in Surah 3 (I think verse 45 or 145 - My Qur'an is not at hand right now) testifies, calling Him the "Word of God from Allah". This means He came from within the Father, just as your words come from within you. John 1:18 explains as much when it states that Jesus came from "the BOSOM of the Father" (which is why He is also called "only begotten" Son - the only One born from inside God).

This Word of God then became flesh (John 1:12), in line with God's promise and resolve to redeem and ransom us from destruction Himself by providing a Lamb to take away our debt of sin (John 1:29). So the Word of God, coming from within God, therefore being God himself, came to pay the double price (Isaiah 40:2) for our sins. Acts 20:28 supports this when it states that God bought/redeemed the Church "with HIS OWN blood".

Moreover, John 12:39-41 tells us that it was Jesus the Prophet Isaiah saw as God in Isaiah 6:1-10, when "he saw His glory and spoke of Him". The same prophet calls Him "Mighty God" (Yes, Jesus is a MIGHTY God, not a small god) in Isaiah 9:6. On His own part, the Lord identifies Himself as "the Alpha and omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the last" (Revelations 22:13). These are titles that refer solely to God, as can be seen in Revelation 1:8.

On Jesus' appearing before God in heaven, it is because the work of salvation, atonement, redemption, propitiation of mankind before God still continues, since we (all humanity)are still in the process of accepting and being cleansed and justified by Christ's atoning work. So He still stands before God as the atonement for all who accept Him, and the still-open door for those who will repent to receive His salvation (2 John 2:1-2). But this will end when the kingdom of God fully comes (1 Corinthians 15:28). Then there shall be only "one LORD, and His name one" (Zechariah 14:9).

But let us know that we needn't understand everything about rocket science before we decide to become students of space science. So our limited knowledge of Christ's nature should not be used as a stumbling block to prevent us from opening our hearts to accept His salvation and cleansing programme. The offer is still open to us all, but it will end when we die ( Hebrews 9:27). Let us accept Him NOW, and then ask questions where we need clarifications, as we continue. Remember, you cannot boast of tomorrow (Proverbs 27:1, James 4:14,15), so you cannot spend all the day arguing over the truth, at the expense of your salvation (Deuteronomy 29:29).

Turn to Him, and he will receive you, cleanse you, and give you a new life, fit for his kingdom (Acts 2:38).
Religion / Re: A TRINITARIAN Should Explain This Scripture .... by eternalifee: 3:03pm On Jan 15, 2015
CAPTIVATOR:
Welcome ... Can u try to explain this :

" For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands .... But he entered into heavens itself, so that he now appears before God on our behalf ." !! Heb 9:24

Pls, Did christ appear before himself ??

Religion / Re: A TRINITARIAN Should Explain This Scripture .... by eternalifee: 9:17am On Jan 15, 2015
Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1), which the Qur'an in Surah 3 (I think verse 45 or 145 - My Qur'an is not at hand right now) testifies, calling Him the "Word of God from Allah". This means He came from within the Father, just as your words come from within you. John 1:18 explains as much when it states that Jesus came from "the BOSOM of the Father" (which is why He is also called "only begotten" Son - the only One born from inside God).

This Word of God then became flesh (John 1:12), in line with God's promise and resolve to redeem and ransom us from destruction Himself by providing a Lamb to take away our debt of sin (John 1:29). So the Word of God, coming from within God, therefore being God himself, came to pay the double price (Isaiah 40:2) for our sins. Acts 20:28 supports this when it states that God bought/redeemed the Church "with HIS OWN blood".

Moreover, John 12:39-41 tells us that it was Jesus the Prophet Isaiah saw as God in Isaiah 6:1-10, when "he saw His glory and spoke of Him". The same prophet calls Him "Mighty God" (Yes, Jesus is a MIGHTY God, not a small god) in Isaiah 9:6. On His own part, the Lord identifies Himself as "the Alpha and omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the last" (Revelations 22:13). These are titles that refer solely to God, as can be seen in Revelation 1:8.

On Jesus' appearing before God in heaven, it is because the work of salvation, atonement, redemption, propitiation of mankind before God still continues, since we (all humanity)are still in the process of accepting and being cleansed and justified by Christ's atoning work. So He still stands before God as the atonement for all who accept Him, and the still-open door for those who will repent to receive His salvation (2 John 2:1-2). But this will end when the kingdom of God fully comes (1 Corinthians 15:28). Then there shall be only "one LORD, and His name one" (Zechariah 14:9).

But let us know that we needn't understand everything about rocket science before we decide to become students of space science. So our limited knowledge of Christ's nature should not be used as a stumbling block to prevent us from opening our hearts to accept His salvation and cleansing programme. The offer is still open to us all, but it will end when we die ( Hebrews 9:27). Let us accept Him NOW, and then ask questions where we need clarifications, as we continue. Remember, you cannot boast of tomorrow (Proverbs 27:1, James 4:14,15), so you cannot spend all the day arguing over the truth, at the expense of your salvation (Deuteronomy 29:29).

Turn to Him, and he will receive you, cleanse you, and give you a new life, fit for his kingdom (Acts 2:38).

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Religion / Re: Why Do Youths Run Away From Deeper Life Bible Church? by eternalifee: 1:13pm On Jan 09, 2015
In response to Rotiny's post, I think we might just have to be a little more truthful. Saying that the level of fornication, adultery, lying, etc. in deeper Life is virtually the same with what obtains in other churches in simply untrue. I dare say that everyone knows Deeper Life is known for preaching and PRACTICING holiness, whether we claim it is over-applied or not. Nothing could be farther from the truth than your claim. thankfully, I have firsthand in-depth and vast acquaintance with the church, its doctrines and practices.

As for those like Lydia, who claim not to have been able to know Christ without leaving Deeper Life, I think you might just have to re-examine yourself. If a church teaches you the word of God on how to get to heaven (even if it is occasionally taken too far), and yet you fail to find any semblance of a relationship with God there, sorry, you may never find it any where else. Except of course in another church that similarly teaches you about how to get to heaven, and most likely in a higher, more biblical and purer manner. If a church cannot help you establish a relationship with Christ, it follows that it can never show you the way to heaven, as the blind cannot lead the blind. But if that church sees clearly enough to point you to heaven, then you have simply, but sadly, gone astray. So it was YOU who refused to establish a relationship with God. If it was the case that you did not clearly understand what DLBC was about then, you can still retrace your steps.

On a general note, I think we should all be more concerned about the fact that our lives are "a vapour that appears for a little time" (James 4:14), and how to make sure we don't lose all, in losing our souls (Matthew 16:26). Let's allow the atonement and resurrection to avail, cleanse us of all filth, and give us entrance to the Home above. And if a church that is helping you on the journey there seems to be too strict at times, be patient. Soon you'll find yourself in the Land for which you would have endured every inconvenience met in this life. It will certainly be worth it. God bless.

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