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LordReed:What do you mean by incoherent? Improbability? How's that different from atheism? |
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LordReed:Igtheist? What's that about? ![]() |
Samueltemi337:I'll give a number "1" and an orange ![]() |
ispreloaded:Well done boss. You are doing very good customer service work on the thread. 😏🙌 |
ispreloaded:was it boomed ticket or was it pikin? ![]() Either one, congrats 🎉👏 |
BlackAdam65:Who do you think you're deceiving? Did you think that no one would notice that you took my replies and fed it to AI so that it could grind out robotic responses? ![]() You can continue this discussion with your AI since you need AI to think for you. |
Samueltemi337:I don see am |
Samueltemi337:Gat proof? ![]() |
Lukuluku69:Okay |
Lukuluku69:do you know how long it takes for a body to decompose? Less than 50 years. And how will they know that it's an ancient Israelite buried There? |
BlackAdam65 are you using AI to interact with me? I'm just noticing ![]() |
BlackAdam65:Ok thanks, will check out the links. The reason why i find this ancient Israelites DNA stuff suspicious is how they got ancient Israelites DNA to test in the first place. DNA was discovered in 1869. More than 1700 years after the exile of Israelites from their lands. And the land was further invaded multiple times by different conquerors. So the middle east is a mix of a lot of DNA. And this is even considering the probability that some Israelites women were taken as concubines by the conquerors. |
Lukuluku69:Sha i did not see news about Saddam Hussein, but I've watched many modern news. For example there's a claim that the state of Iran is about to develop a nuclear weapon. All media that I watched said that "The US department of defense claims that Iran is weeks from developing a nuclear weapon". Notice how that they aren't stating a fact but are quoting the US government claims. I'll check out your books in my spare time, but I'll also investigate the authors of these books. |
BlackAdam65:Some of the links did not load. The first three loaded but they talked about probability of disease occuring in specific Jewish population called the Ashkenazis. The first one even started with "The Ashkenazi Jewish (AJ) population is a genetic isolate close to European and Middle Eastern groups, with genetic diversity patterns conducive to disease mapping.". Did you read or understand the article? The rest didn't load or are religious prophecy. |
Lukuluku69:Those events are called quotes. The specific online media source is not stating a fact but repeating a statement made by someone else. For example if someone claims that they have discovered a cure for cancer and it hasn't been confirmed, they'll report it as " an individual claims to have discovered a cure for cancer" note how the media emphasizes "claims". When it comes to religious texts the media often says "according to this/that specific religion" as a means to make reference a quote made by that specific religion. If you searched for who created the world, it will give the creation account of every religion with quotes as to which religion made each quote. Actually, it was the US government that claimed that Saddam Hussein had a weapon of mass destruction not to media. The media only quote them by reporting "The US government says that Saddam Hussein has a weapon of mass destruction". What am I saying, Most stories have Agenda.Nice to see you posted sources. I will check them out in my free time. But me ask you something, why do you trust these books over conventional media? Or what makes these books more valid than conventional media? |
BlackAdam65:Source for this? |
Lukuluku69:Last time i checked, what we learnt in school is the same thing we learn online. Knowledge is standard everywhere. Also what tomes are you talking about? Everyone comes with their own Agenda, a narrative. So, I a sense, we can't come to conclusion on so many things.It's not that we can't come to a conclusion, it's that you are rejecting general public sources of knowledge. Then I asked you what your sources were. But you will agree with Mr that if I go school today wearing an Aso Oke then down the years after I am long gone you find stories written about me that I went to School on that day in a blue jeans or that I went naked, it will be hard for anyone to sieve what are conjectures from what is the Truth.The question is, if the information about what you wore to school is incorrect, how do we find out? Here's an example, if someone claims that the moon landing was fake, and NASA, European space agency, roscosmos, jaxa etc plus Wikipedia, Britannica, bbc etc and every other information source on earth claim that it happened, who should we trust? The anonymous few with no source? So, we will only be going back and forth.What books did you read to learn what you know? Can you share it? Let me give you an example.it's been a long time since I saw that movie, weren't the spartans defeated end? I remember that scene when the king was lying with his body pierced full of arrows. I thought that the charge at the end was simply the second charge before the fall of Sparta. |
Lukuluku69:I never said that he didn't speak Aramaic. I said that he spoke three languages. Speaking the Hebrew Language alone doesn't qualify you to be a Jew. The Jew holds that Jewish Ancestry can be passed thru your mother (a lie again). Today there are thousand on the queues waiting to do Aliyah to the Promised Land and they don't speak a word of Hebrew.I'm not taking about Jewish qualifications I was talking about Jewish culture preserved by Jewish people in exile. You can actually revive a Language. Go to Wales today and you will see a Revival of the Welsh Tongue. They have even rename their country. So, a Language cab be revived by Teaching it in Schools, by passing Laws for it to be a Lingua Franca as done exactly by the Zionists when they started arriving from Europe.I never said that languages can't be revived, i said that Jewish language was never lost. Yeah we read many things online but you and I know that some of this stuff are out right bull turd.The question is how do we identify which ones are false or true. There are those who claim that the moon landing was fake. Of course the people debating this things today were not around when these stuff happened, so we will never agree on many of the issues being debated but Scholarly works do leave snippets for us all to sieve they and arrive at a reasonable conclusion.Is it not the same reasonable conclusion that was used to arrive at online knowledge such Wikipedia? |
Lukuluku69:ok then fair enough. True he went after the Jews in there Synagogues and even Solomon's Temple but don't you know that the Hebrew Scriptures were also written in Aramaic?Yes the scriptures were definitely translated into many languages, that's how we got the old testament. But Hebrew was considered the holy language by the Jews and used it for religious activities. So it's very unlikely that Jesus would go to the Jewish temple to study the scriptures in Aramaic. There is a parts of the Bible where gentiles were told that they to convert to Judaism in order to be allowed into the temple. Judaism was very strict. The Catholics read their stuff in Latin but worship in the Language of the land they are in. Jesus may understand Hebrew but the Language he spoke was Aramaic.I initially said that he spoke three languages, and you quoted the pope. You couldn't be a jew without understanding Hebrew. It was considered a sacred language. When I say a Language is revived, please describe to me in order word the Usage of a thing long lost or supplanted by another for say 200+Years? Was it not a Revival?That's the thing, it wasn't lost, it was modernized. Since most people no longer speak old English and now speak new English, does it make English a revived language? You read online that Jews were killed enmass online?If we can't believe what we read online, then what should we believe? Where do you get your information from? I don't know about you, I wasn't around when all these events took place I can only rely on general public knowledge. |
Lukuluku69:What cannon are you talking about? One knows what languages Jesus actually spoke. It is assumed that he spoke Aramaic because the language was commonly spoken in that region at his time. Also, he was a Jew and was said to constantly visit the Jewish temple and study the scriptures. What languages was the scriptures written in? Is it not Hebrew? The same narrative was once pushed by Benjamin Netanyahu when the Pope visited Israel and the Pope politely told him that Jesus spoke Aramaic and not Hebrew.Is it not the pope of the Roman Catholic Church that came from the Roman empire that conquered and exiled the Jews? The same people that persecuted them for centuries? The same people who depicted Jesus as Caucasian? Are you going to take their word? That you are exiled doesn't mean you lose your Language. The Yorubas in Brazil still speak a smattering of Yoruba but you will agree with me that eventually their Yoruba will be corrupted or even lost.Yorubas in Brazil were decended from slaves, while the surviving Jews in exile were not. The Yorubas were sold into slavery, what the Jews were exiled. According to what i read online, they say over 70 percent of Jews were either killed or sold as slaves while the remaining 20 to 30 percent were exiled. It's those exiled ones that retained the language. The American analogy can't hold because apart from the impositions of the Colonists Language, massacre on a large scale were carried out to simply wipe out the Locals.Yes it's exactly what I'm saying. Before the European settlers arrived on the continent, the main languages spoken were native American languages and then after the conquest of the continent, European languages like English, French and Spanish became the main languages spoken on the continent. If the natives were to have a revolution and take back the continent, and then make their language the official language, will you still call it a "revived language"? |
Lukuluku69:ok I'm waiting |
Lukuluku69:This Wikipedia page says that it was never lost, rather it fell out of use because the Jew were living with many foreigners that didn't speak Hebrew. So it remained in use by jews during religious practices. They couldn't use it for trade or any activity that required communication with a non Jew. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language Hebrew ceased to be a regular spoken language sometime between 200 and 400 CE, as it declined in the aftermath of the unsuccessful Bar Kokhba revolt, which was carried out against the Roman Empire by the Jews of Judaea. Aramaic and, to a lesser extent, Greek were already in use as international languages, especially among societal elites and immigrants. Hebrew survived into the medieval period as the language of Jewish liturgy, rabbinic literature, intra-Jewish commerce, and Jewish poetic literature. The first dated book printed in Hebrew was published by Abraham Garton in Reggio (Calabria, Italy) in 1475. The same way a Yoruba in diaspora will speak less Yoruba and more of foreign languages. That it was revived is actually Secondary. Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew, he spoke a Foreign Language (though a Sister Language) while he was in Judea.Jesus spoke three languages: Hebrew, his religious language, Aramaic, the language that served as an international language in the region and Greek, probably to communicate with the Roman occupation officers and Greek traders. Of course, modernity comes into everything we do now. We assimilate different Cultures into our own due to Cultures exchanges but the Yoruba Language was never out of date sort of amongst the Yorubas so your analogy doesn't hold. The Words can come in and add to the existing one.Yes it was, if you spoke modern Yoruba to ancient Yorubas, they would have trouble understanding. And it's not just Yoruba, we have old Chinese and new Chinese, old English and new English, old Arabic and new Arabic etc The Hebrews have that singular misfortune of mass exile so, I will give it to you that they can pick up the Languages of their conquerors but that is not always the case. When Alexander the great conquered Persia, he allows them speak their Language, keep their Culture etc as a matter of fact, many Zoroastrian Cults believe find their way into the Greco-Roman Cultures and beliefs.I'm not taking about if the conquered people are still living on the land, I'm talking about cases of exile from the land. Eg the when America took native American lands, the they retain the native language? |
Lukuluku69:And I asked you for sources |
Lukuluku69:The same way Yoruba was modernized. There are words in Yoruba that exist today but didn't exist in the past such as yourba words "Àìkú, Ajé, Ìṣẹ́gun, Ọjọ́rú, Ọjọ́bọ, Ẹtì, Àbámẹ́ta". These are yourba words for the days of the week that didn't exist in the past. Were yourba people exiled from their lands? If two Yoruba people encounter each other abroad, how do they know that they are both Yorubas? Is it not by shared language and culture? Are you not aware of yourbas in Brazil? Are they black Brazilians that "revived" the language? Or are they descendants of Yoruba slaves trafficked from west Africa during the slave trade? That Hebrew became a spoken Language in the Geographical entity called Israel today happened in the 19 Century as that Wikipedia article says.Of course it became the official language in the 19th century. Have you ever heard of a conquered land were the conquered people were exiled and then the conquerors kept the language of those they conquered? When the colonialists conquered Africa, did they learn to speak our language or did they impose their own on us? If the ancient Israelites were conquered and exiled, why will their conquerors learn to speak their language? |
Lukuluku69:Source for this? And the Kashmiris are the descendants of the Lost 10 Tribes of Israel. Research it sir. The Khazar knows this, and are ready to fund India not to grant them Autonomy. Don't let me digress too much.is your source a legend? |
Lukuluku69:This is the exact same article that I saw. Did you even read it? It talks about the modernization of Hebrew by Jewish people in exile. |
Lukuluku69:What does Zionists being atheists have to do with being a Jew. Jew is an ethnic group or a cultural identity. If a Yoruba man leaves his traditional religion does it means that he's no longer Yoruba? Are Zionists not Jews? And isn't kashmir related to Hindus and Sikhs? |
Lukuluku69:I don't understand. What's the difference between Zionists and Jews? I thought that Zionism was a Jewish movement about restoring their culture and heritage. Are you saying that the ancient Israelites are in kashmir? |
Lukuluku69:what i understood from the Wikipedia page was that old Hebrew Jewish speakers modernized the language. To keep up with modern terminologies. 👇 Jewish communities with different colloquial languages had used Hebrew to communicate with each other across Europe and the Near East since the Middle Ages. The use of Hebrew enabled Jews to flourish in international trade throughout Europe and Asia during the Middle Ages. In Jewish communities that existed throughout Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, and India, Jewish merchants knew enough Hebrew to communicate, and thus had a much easier time trading with each other than non-Jews had trading internationally due to the language barrier.[14] As Jews in Palestine spoke a variety of languages such as Arabic, Ladino, Yiddish, and French, inter-communal affairs that required verbal communication were handled in a modified form of Medieval Hebrew. Hebrew was used by Jews from different linguistic backgrounds in marketplaces in Jerusalem since at least the early 19th century.[15][16] I also discovered that many languages spoken today were also modernized such as Chinese, English, French, Arabic etc . |
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