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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:29pm On Feb 13, 2020
airmark:
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He knew what he was doing when he posted those 2018/2019 stats to judge two players this season. Some people are just terrible.
airmark:
I laughed when i saw that move. grin
E pain dis one grin grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:28pm On Feb 13, 2020
CrystalTiger:
I can't believe we missed out on Ziyech..Congrats to Chelsea for a very good deal,£33m..
Lets go for Sancho .................Martial can go to Arsenal
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Told David Lyon Not To Celebrate Until After Inauguration (Video) by Expert17: 3:21pm On Feb 13, 2020
this man is a real man of God oooo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 1:26pm On Feb 13, 2020
Leyqute:
I can’t come and kill myself. smiley

Many players are really underperforming. The ones with passion aren’t quality enough, the ones with good quality aren’t committed.

No be small thing.
grin grin

Ole shud note that
*Martial is not a Striker
*Fernandes is a box-to-box midfielder not behind striker
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 1:15pm On Feb 13, 2020
Leyqute:
Lingard hit his “peak” 2 years ago. And his “peak” isn’t even worthy of United standards.

And What did Ed do? They threw more money at him.

We have many underperforming players. It’s time to damnn the excuses and call a spade what it is - a spade.
Dont check Phil Jones stats please,........... u wont like urself agn
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 1:13pm On Feb 13, 2020
Leyqute:
How has Lingard fared under Van Gaal, OGS and Mourinho?

Here are his stats for the three coaches.
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

Constantly degrading like a synthetic polymer.....

what is the duration of his contracthuh? so he can leave on a free transfer to Salford City
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:41pm On Feb 13, 2020
Leyqute:
I Dey tell you.

Imagine Martial saying he didn’t like how Mourinho criticized him in front of other players. Not in front of the press o.

If Fergie criticized him in front of others I guess he’ll resign.

I guess he was mismanaged by Mourinho but this lad has to sit up.

I can count on one hand the players among these lot worthy of the United starting shirt.
Pogba should be leading the exodus followed closely by Martial, and the remaining tools
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:58am On Feb 13, 2020
Leyqute:
Ferguson na Superman?

Has he ever had an AM/SS this poor?

Okay. Kagawa “flopped” at United. Look at stats for his ‘not so good’ (with Fergie) and worst (Nwoyes) seasons here.

And compare them with Messi Lingod and Perreira’s.

If Kagawa wasn’t good enough to start with those stats, Lingard and Perreira can never be good enough to make the bench.

Things don bad gan
We need like 5-6 new players self ................ things don toooo bad
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:41am On Feb 13, 2020
Leyqute:
Look at the tools we’re parading as AMs
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

Ferguson would have still manage to grind out something with this fools...

OLE cant win anything with players like this oooooo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:22am On Feb 13, 2020
Leyqute:
Stats 19/20 season
*By this time last season, Ricardo statistics was better than AWB, but u know how it ended
*If you observe Tackles and Interception are mostly dominated by smaller clubs because they are the ones defending always against better opposition, thats why you wont see man city and liverpool players there, unless they wanna be tackling there team mate and thats why AWB most tackles and Interception was against Good teams like Arsenal, Spurs, Man city and Liverpool....... U cant see that perreira in big games,.

* Ricardo shud try and add to his 7 portugal caps at the age of 26 before i take him serious and try and bench Cedric soares with 33 caps....

Any body can dribble pass Ricardo, but u cant pass AWB ( Spider web) .. go and ask Raheem Sterling
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:39am On Feb 13, 2020
obainojazz:
I saw AWB has a higher takeons... If the guy can really develop his crossings Mehn.. I'll give him time first
He is a very skillful player due to his attacking background,..... With additional training, hes gonna get his crossing right
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:24am On Feb 13, 2020
And for the learners/babies that will come here and mention Trent Arnold - Alexander is better than AWB in defending.....

TAKE THIS

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:11am On Feb 13, 2020
[quote author=thorrvik55 post=86604039][/quote]i gave you so many FACTS, but u could point to just one,....u are scared of online trolls and abuse,.

*AWB tackles and interceptions are even against big teams, go and check our games against chelsea, man city, liverpool, spurs etc
* only 7 players manage to run pass him with the ball last season
* no Man utd player hv bn able to dribble him in training ( they train more than 3 times a week)
*he was converted to a RB by Roy Hogson, when Fosu-Mensah was injured, ( he ws a winger)
* one of the most skillful attacker in EPL over the past 3 seasons (Wilfred Zaha) cudnt get pass him in training, despite training together for 2 seasons.
* no player hv bn able to dribble him this season

Kindly find attached the stat

Back to the question..... MENTION A RIGHT BACK BETTER THAN AWB IN DEFENDINGhuhhuhhuh?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:47pm On Feb 12, 2020
thorrvik55:
Delusion at it's peak.. U think defending is all about going to ground at the slightest opportunity... Lol grin grin

Continue..
I like giving Statistics wenever I talk abt football...

AWB has the highest Interception and Tackles among all the defenders in EPL last season.........

AWB is leading the EPL , talking abtt defenders in Tackles and interception this season.......

26 games gone this season...... Mention a player dat successfully take on AWB and won the battle,... Firminho was close, but AWB still clear d ball....

Or u can drop the name of the Right back better than AWB defensively,... Feel free to enter La liga, Serie A, Nigeria Premier League etc
SportsRe: NFF Appoints Joseph Yobo As Super Eagles Assistant Coach by Expert17: 6:43pm On Feb 12, 2020
toprealman:
Henry, Phil Neville, Paul Scholes and others will totally agree with you.
Phil Neville is a great analyst and even doing well with England women national team
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17:
raumdeuter:
Conte took Juventus to Serie A and back - LIES

Madrid has not won the league for many yrs before Mourinho - LIES
I like your style.... Since u DNT have points, u look for mistakes dat are normal in terms of historical arguments.......

Madrid last won the league in 2007/2008, Barca won 3 times straight.....Mourinho won it for them next in 2011/12.. that's years .
Conte won serie b with Bari. Worst Dan Juventus......so my points is even been strongly supported


Back to my questions...

Barcelona, have won the Treble again after peps own....
Bayern hv won the league again after peps own......

When was the last time Chelsea won back to back EPL trophieshuh
When was the last time Porto played UCL semi final??
When was the last time Inter Milan smell league and UCL titlehuh?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:35pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
Ferguson won did not win the European cup with Aberdeen, he won the lower-tier European trophies, He won it when he was an upcoming coach. When he became a top coach, why didnt he resign from Man utd to go coach Yeovil Town

Conte did not go to division 2 with Juventus that was Deschamps, Conte joined Juventus when they were back in Serie A

You are either lie a lot or are very ignorant which is ironic for someone who calls himself an expert
Did Ferguson not win Real madrid with Aberdeen or not to win a trophyhuh

Have Conte not won serie B in his carrerhuh?
I was even saying Juventus, I guess it was even Brescia
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:33pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
So Ronaldo Messi Neymar etc are scared of failure that is why they are not playing for Bolton or Levante?
Mourinho went to Chelsea when they finished 2nd in the league
Went to Porto the biggest team in portugal

Top people dont play for lowly orgs. Best Engineer wont work with Emeka and sons, Best Doctor wont work at a local chemist

You can also ask why Ronaldo Neymar and Messi dont go to Levante, Stoke and Augsburg to prove themselves

CLubs like Porto Spurs are for either upcoming coaches or finished coaches. Which one is Mourinho

Spurs coaches Poch(upcoming), AVB(Upcoming), Redknapp(finished), Mourinho(fill the gap)

Pep needs money to win, Mourinho bought the most expensive striker (Lukaku) and midfielder(Pogba) only to get the sack letter

You havent told us why you had to tell so much lies to defend Mourinho
When was the last time Chelsea won the league b4 Mourinho won it for themhuh??

When was the last time Porto won the UCL b4 Mourinho won it for themhuh?

When was the last time Inter milan won UCL b4 Mourinho won it for dem.huh

Have Man United won the UEL beforehuh And they played in the competition under Ferguson.....

Since Mourinho left Chelsea, have they won the league back to backhuh??

Since Mourinho left Porto, have they smell UCL semi finalhuh?

Since Mourinho left Inter Milan, have they smell the league and UCLhuh?

Barcelona have won the Treble, after Pep left,....... Bayern have won the league after Pep left..... All his records at Man city, Klopp have broken it....

You go run
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:23pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
Pep has coached EPL for 4yrs won 2 titles
Mourinho has coached EPL for over 10 seasons and has 3 titles

That's the point

Top people dont play for lowly orgs. Best Engineer wont work with Emeka and sons, Best Doctor wont work at a local chemist

You can also ask why Ronaldo Neymar and Messi dont go to Levante, Stoke and Augsburg to prove themselves

CLubs like Porto Spurs are for either upcoming coaches or finished coaches. Which one is Mourinho

Spurs coaches Poch(upcoming), AVB(Upcoming), Redknapp(finished), Mourinho(fill the gap)
Ferguson won European trophy with lowly Aberdeen beating Real Madrid.......

Conte went to relegation with Juventus because of match fixing, brought them out and won the league without funds.......

Pep bought over 6 full backs in 2 windows to win a single EPL......

Pep need funds to win anything
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:19pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
Pep has coached EPL for 4yrs won 2 titles
Mourinho has coached EPL for over 10 seasons and has 3 titles

Top people dont play for lowly orgs. Best Engineer wont work with Emeka and sons, Best Doctor wont work at a local chemist

You can also ask why Ronaldo Neymar and Messi dont go to Levante, Stoke and Augsburg to prove themselves
Top players and coaches don't go to small teams because of fear of failure ......
So respect Mourinho dat went to a new born Chelsea and won the league, twice beating Sir Alex Ferguson to the title....... He went to Porto and won UCL.....

Oga, PEP need huge funds to win anything
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:13pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
If you need that much lies to prop up Mourinho only shows one thing, he is a failed outdated coach

See how many lies you wrote up there

Mourinho and Pep coached in the same league same City of Manchester,

In 3 seasons

Mou 6th 2nd 6th
Pep 3rd 1st 1st

Pep has already disgraced Mourinho in the same environment No need to be going to Porto and Inter
Mourinho 3 EPL
Pep 2 EPL.

So wats the point.

Mourinho would have won more trophies if he had coached Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Man city.

Can Pep coach a Low budget team like Porto, Inter Milan and Spurshuh?

I will pick Conte over Pep self
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:08pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
All these are lies.

Who told you the job of Pep at those clubs?



Porto has won the European cup before in 1987


What are these wonders? Was winning CL not part of his job there or na only Pep dey suppose win CL



This is a lie, Inter won the Serie A multiple times under Mancini before Mourinho joined.


Mourinho joined Madrid in 2010, Madrid won the League 2 seasons before than in 2008 under Schuster



Serious clubs don't win UEL, its only for tier 2 clubs like Sevilla. How many UEL winners hope to retain it


Was Barcelona that had finished trophyless for 2 seasons the best club in Spain? Was City a team that finished 4th level on point with Man Utd that Mou took over the best team in England?


All these you listed are the same thing, In defence they park the bus in attack they hope to play long balls and counter

That is why Mourinho has been fired at his last 3 jobs for failing
Mourinho is not scared of bn sacked.....
Some prefer to go on Sabbatical to masturbate their ego grin grin grin grin

Pep failed at Bayern, will be consider a failure if Man city dnt win UCL,.... I expect him to run to PSG or Juventus soon,...
All the record he set at Man city over the past 2 seasons will be broken by Liverpool this season.... The Treble he won at Barcelona,. Enrique has done it....

Someone shud go and win UCL with Inter Milan and Porto,..

Pep shud go and coach Porto and Inter Milan, let us check something.....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:42pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
How long have they all been coaches

Mourinho about 20yrs
Pep about 12yrs
Zidane 4 seasons
-Pep main job at Barcelona was to win UCL.....Messi to d rescue
- pep job at Bayern was to win UCL, cudnt near the final, with a team that won it, not long ago
-pep job at Man city was to win UCL, cudnt reach final with a team dat bought all the players he point to....

Mourinho went to Porto dat cudnt win the league in the previous 3 seasons, spend 2 years and won 2 league,.. winning the club 1st and only UCL trophy...

Mourinho did wonders at chelsea, u know the record....

Mourinho went to Inter Milan and change the tone of serie A, restricted AC Milan from winning another trophy, won treble,..

Mourinho won the league for Real Madrid after how many years......

Mourinho went to Man utd, a club going down and won 3 trophies... And their first UEL trophy...

Pep can never go to a club dat don't have millions to spend, and must be the best club in the league....
Pep can't play any other style apart from Tiki-taka......
Mourinho is multi-dimensional,..... He can park bus, counter attack, long ball, any style dat will guarantee winning...

Please stop calling Zidane here
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:54pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
How are Pep and Mourinho in the same class with Stats?

Zidane is higher than Mourinho given his 3 CL wins
Pep 26 Trophies.( Barcelona/Messi , Bayern and Man city)..... Coached big and best clubs in the league in each country..

Mourinho 25 trophies( started Chelsea dominance, brought Porto to limelight, Break Madrid Laliga Voodoo, won Treble with aging Inter Milan Squad,. Won 3 Trophies for toothless Man utd)

Zidane 9 trophies

Klopp 8 trophies..

Back to my point,. Mourinho and Pep are in the same class....
Klopp and Zidane need more prayer and fasting
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:22pm On Feb 12, 2020
raumdeuter:
Pep Klopp Zidane
Pep and Mourinho are in the same class.....( Statistically backed)

Klopp is catching up with them....

Zidane can't rate himself on the same level to Mourinho
EducationRe: Adegboye Olatunji: I Was Charmed By Cultists – Ilaro Poly SUG President by Expert17: 12:51pm On Feb 12, 2020
The last people I will ever believe is Nigeria Police Force...... They are bunch of liars....

They can implicate u, bfor u even know it..
.., whether d guy is lying or not, truth will be out soon
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:02pm On Feb 12, 2020
engrelvis:
I dnt give a f...k about poch or whether klopp came last d season he was appointed. Is his ascendency,progress dat am talking about. Since ole appointment what progress v we actually made ?go n watch klopp previous past matches.I remember saying at DAT time ( I which digzz can bring it out) Liverpool is going to b a force to b reckon with in d future just d same way am saying about current Leicester squad now.With exception of VDD one on one r current Liverpool squad better dan ours? Even VDD dat is one of d best defender in d world right now wasn't dat fantastic at Southampton but look at him now .d same with mane.U can't give what u dnt v no matter d time given to u
Apart from midfied,. DNT compare Man utd Squad to Liverpool on one on one basis....they are better

U DNT win trophies with big names, u win trophies with determined players who can put their head where others can't put their leg, who go a step ahead in training, on the pitch and beyond......
Until Man utd flush out some players who infect others with their bad energy....
We can't win league with players like Pogba, Martial, Shaw, Lindelof

As for me, I can see progress in this squad, we must stay with OLE, because we made a big mistake sacking Van gaal......
CrimeRe: Ibrahim Idris: Alfa Rapes 3 Daughters Of Couple Who Housed Him Free For 7 Years by Expert17: 9:52am On Feb 12, 2020
Nawa oooo embarassed embarassed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:48am On Feb 12, 2020
engrelvis:
d same Liverpool management over d yrs employed jurgen klop n everything change.d same for man city n recently Leicester. When u c a good football coach u will know.mourino n van Gaal r top class coach but v passed their peak when dey came to man UTD.Our present squad can competes with any team in d world if we v a coach dat know what he his doing.ole is one step forward n 3steps backward.look at Leicester dey might be losing but is very obvious Rogers is building something. I respect ur view but personally ole lack d technical depth to take us far.
What was the position Klopps Liverpool finish the season he was appointed?? Even the next Season.......

Wat Mourinho and Van gaal cudnt do, u expect OGS to do it....
The same Pochetino was sacked for Mourinho to be appointed....
Even at Mourinho lowest point, he's better Dan Pochetino.... Maybe u can mention 3 current managers better than Mourinho
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:22am On Feb 12, 2020
nitrogen:
Haha, so you haven't seen Lukaku move to the right wing before, abi?

@Bolded, you kidding right? How many games has Fernandes played? James too has been doing very well, I can see that. AWB needs to improve his attacking play. Meanwhile, how come Maguire has not been able to co-ordinate the defence to prevent small teams from raping De Gea?
I hv seen Lukaku move to the rite, he played dere for Belguim in the world cup..... Am talking abt his first touch and flexibility..... He also get tired easily...

James is still one of our highest assist provider dis season, though he still needs to improve,

AWB is the best RB in the world in terms of defending, but he doesn't know how to attack,.. which hes gonna learn soon.

Maguire won't catch Set-piece for Degea, u shud know De Gea hs bn out of form for more dan a year now....... Maguire will start in all the team in EPL

OGS signings are better dan Mourinho, Van gaal and Moyes
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:13pm On Feb 11, 2020
nitrogen:
Of course, OGS is always a saint. Thank God you agree that he sent away Lukaku, however, you also need to agree that he pursued him for Rashford and Martial (the DNA masters).
I dnt like OGS ooo....

But by now, (7 years) it shud be clear dat Man utd problem is not COACH/MANAGER after sampling Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho and OGS....
Mourinho and Van gaal are Top class managers.

Lukaku is a goal poacher.... Proven goal scorer....
OGS want a fluid forward line like Liverpool attack and Man utd attack of 2007-2009, u won't know who to mark as a defender because of constant change in position and fast thinking moves, mostly dependent on players first touch and flexibility (Lukaku lacks both)....
That's why no matter the amount of important goals OGS and chicharito scored under Ferguson, they cudnt make the preffered first 11.......

Just to add-. OGS transfers so far are spot on, Maguire, AWB, James and Fernandes...... Ighalo will be judged later
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:56pm On Feb 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:
Selling Lukaku for Ighalovirus is the biggest L Manchester United have ever taken, even bigger than signing Piano.

Ighalo wasn't even a starter for Watford when he was bundled to Guangzhou for 2 spare parts and an AliExpress shoe.

Anybody that watched Ighalovirus at the world cup, and insisted on pursuing Lukaku for him needs to drink a whole tank of holy water, cos that person is possessed.
U can make ur points without adding virus to Ighalo's name......

And OLE didn't pursue Lukaku for Ighalo.... D main target was Haaland,..but cudnt get him, because of the agent and father unrealistic terms...

Ighalo is not our problem, dnt give us his Statistics,...face the owners and Woodward

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