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I am a Christian by His Grace. But in my christian experience, I have discovered that there are always strifes and disaffection among Christians despite Jesus repeated admonitions to love one another. It is rare to see a Christian help another because he/she is a Christian. In the Lord Jesus' prayer He said He did not pray for the world but those given to him (John 17:9).

Muslims who do not have such admonitions either from allah or Muhammad take loving one another a serious matter, especially among the same sect.

Various other cults take solidarity so seriously to the extent that when they are stranded, anywhere, as soon as they sight their signs, they would stop to help. Even in court, if a judge sights an occult's sign from a person, he will turn the case in the member's favour.

Please note that united we stand in unity of faith the better and safer for us.

Abdulsalam20: “We look at events in the light of the Qur ’an and the
hadiths. But one cannot issue a pronouncement on the
basis of one single verse in the Qur ’an . One must look at
the verses as a whole. The same applies to the hadiths . The
other hadiths complement one another. Therefore , if
someone comes and tells us , ‘ There is a Jew here , come
and kill him ,’ we will not kill him. Why should we ? That
person would have to commit a crime. And if he commits a
crime he will have to be tried . And the judge will pronounce
sentence at the end of the trial . There is a whole system
and legal procedure involved . It does not mean that anyone
who sees him can kill him and try him himself . We can see
what this hadith means by looking at others. Otherwise , it
is a sin to kill an innocent Jew, a person, a child , standing
there, and heed a voice from a stone telling us to kill them .
That is unacceptable . We must grasp what our Prophet
( saas ) really means . It would appear the hadith means this :
Jews who are atheists or enemies of religion cannot hide .
Those who hide among wood or stones will be located using
all kinds of electrical devices and equipment, and the evil
and activities of these people will thus be prevented, and
that will be a punishment for them. That is what the hadith
may be implying
In addition , Jews are people given protection in the time of
our Prophet ( saas ) and who followed Muslims. The
compassion and justice shown by the Prophet (saas ) in the
light of the Qur’ an, acted as a role model for subsequent
Muslim rulers . Allah says in the Qur’an , ". .. Do not let
hatred for a people incite you into not being just . Be just .
That is closer to taqwa ” (Surat al -Ma’ida , 8 ) . Allah also
commands Muslims to ensure the safety even of the
idolaters (pagans who do not heed Allah ’s revelation) : "If
any of the idolaters ask you for protection, give them
protection until they have heard the words of Allah. Then
convey them to a place where they are safe . .. ." (Surat at-
Tawba , 6 ) A Muslim will therefore uphold justice, for Allah’s
sake, in the face of anyone and everyone and will only seek
solutions to all matters as revealed in the Qur ’an

No thanks for your copy and paste. You are not in the position to make any defence because you didn't know those hadiths exist, hence you asked for evidence.

Lanreylan: There are a couple of things I can solve,but I can't solve your comprehension problems.Keep wallowing in your betise and fatuity.Don't forget your swimming trunk bro.

Why was allah manipulating Muhammad's memory to forget revelations. What was wrong with the revelations that he made him to forget? Did he make mistakes? Allah is to be suspected!

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Akindarchi: Oh!!! I see now, you just go round pasting this load of SENSE in different threads, talk about spreading the gospel. Trying to spur some hate response from muslims.
I trust the op should recognise that you are up to no good and ultimately derailing the thread. Nice ranting though

You said you didn't like debate and you keep debating. Muslims and their hypocrisy. Muhammad did same.

Tell me what INJESUSNAME said about Muhammad is untrue and I will provide the proofs. Why wouldn't people hate a religion known for all vices? Allah permitting muslims to r.ape slaves and ordering Muhammad to marry Said's wife and you think he is the true God. Say it is untrue, I will provide evidences.

eyeopener

Why is it that allah would say one thing and reverses it later? Can't you sense manipulations? Remember the issue of abrogation in the quran. After allah had revealed some revelations, he would cause Muhammad to forget them and put in place another (Surah 8:6-7, 16:101).

Tell me, what would God say wrongly that he was manipulating Muhammad to forget? Suspect allah!

Lanreylan: I am simply following Jesus in the bible,a product of his words in this aspect.
If calling someone lost sheep is an insult,then I will gladly accept that I was schooled by christ in that aspect.He also adressed people as such and other names like 'A' generation of vipers',etc.
I am not twisting anything here,the explanations are clear enough for those who choose to learn.You can be an antagonist with a closed mind,that's always your problem and never mine.

Guy,you've got comprehension problems,so all muslims are apostles and Muhammad(pbuh) will be the first of apostles to cross abi? I can't cope with tomfoolery,islamophobes can never think straight.

It is you who cannot comprehend statements expressed in simple English because your brain has been manipulated by your god like Muhammad was when allah was tampering with his brain by making him to forget revelations.

In that hadith only Muhammad and muslims are in Hell wanting to cross to Paradise, so simple. It means when muslims die they go to Hell waiting for the Judgment Day before crossing to Paradise.

Lanreylan: Says the lost sheep.You can choose what you like,that's not my business.The Qu'ran says in Surah An-anbiyaa 21:101-103 -Verily those for whom the good has preceded from Us,they will be removed far therefrom (Hell)
.They shall not hear the slightest sound of it (Hell) while they abide in that which their ownselves desire.The greatest terror on the Day of Resurrection will not grieve them, and the angels will meet them, with the greeting:"This is your Day which you were promised."Is that my own definition of removed? Bye

Why is it that allah would say one thing and reverses it later? Can't you sense manipulations? Remember the issue of abrogation in the quran. After allah had revealed some revelations, he would cause Muhammad to forget them and put in place another (Surah 8:6-7, 16:101).

Tell me, what would God say wrongly that he was manipulating Muhammad to forget? Suspect allah!

Lanreylan: Please how do you reason? How does event that will be a gathering on the of judgement amount to gathering in hell? Didn't you read this?

So if we are to go with your stupid assertion and interpretation when Muhammad(pbuh) and his followers are crossing the sirat,abraham,Jesus,Moses and other Prophets(Peace be upon them all)will be in hell fire abi? Cos the hadith says Muhammad(pbuh) will be the first to cross out of the apostles,so all the rest of the apostles are where? Fire? Authubillah,may Allah forgive me.I don't engage in silly argument with some inept and footle peeps.It seems all NL christians are intellectually bankrupt.
You can read this
www.nairaland.com/1302542/muslims-hellfire-pending-resurrection-day

Moses, Abraham and Jesus are not mentioned there because they are not muslims. Only muslims are there in Fire.

I don't think it is worth still talking with you if you can try to twist what is so clear to every reasonale reader. My advice to you and your fellow muslims is to be ready for hell immediately after death. That verse and the hadith talk about what will happen in the Day of Judgement, But before then muslims who die will be in hell fire till the Day of Judgement. I feel like crying for you!

Quran says it and hadith interpretes it, yet you want to twist it to deceive. Anyone who can read simple English should be able to read and understand. I pray you will not remember today in Hell.

Lanreylan

Muslims and their hypocrisy.

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urah Al-Imran 3:185 -Everyone shall taste death.And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise he indeed is successful.The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing)How does what you says tally with the the verse quoted?

Now read the interpretation of the verse by those who are more knowledgeable than you in islam:


Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12 Number 770.

Narated By Abu Huraira : The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; AND ONLY THIS NATION (MUSLIMS) WILL BE LEFT WITH ITS HYPOCRITES. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. AT THAT TIME THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE as mere skeletons..............
Supported by Quran 19:68-72.

1. AND ONLY THIS NATION (MUSLIMS) WILL BE LEFT WITH ITS HYPOCRITES.
This means it is only the muslims that are left there in the hellfire.

2. Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers.

This shows all muslims will be there in the hellfire irrespective of whether he is righteous or not because Muhammad, the most righteous muslim is there too and will cross first.

3. HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM (Allah) ALONE.

Here again stresses the fact that it is ONLY the muslims, who believe in One-
God, Allah alone the hadith is talking about.

4. Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. AT THAT TIME THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE as mere skeletons..............

They will have been so badly burnt and come out like mere skeleton despite that fact that when they were in this world, [/b]they prayed so seriously to Allah to have gotten the mark of prostrations. Those who do not have the mark, though muslims are unfortunate.

[b]Next....

Lanreylan: Surah Al-Imran 3:185 -Everyone shall taste death.And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. [color=#990000]And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradisehe indeed is successful.The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing)[/color]How does what you says tally with the the verse quoted?
Chai,chai Nairaland christians lying since 900 A.D.
Apostle Paul's followers,I hail oo.Evangelism by lies

Where is the lie? "Whoever is removed away from the Fire". Isn't this clear enough? They will be inside Fire first before they are removed and admitted to Paradise. For how long can you afford to stay inside fire before you are removed?

alienvirus: ^^ Guys, why these condolences and regrets?

It is quite regrettable for her leaving life for death. Leaving peace for jihad. Leaving a promise of heaven for a promise of hell (Surah 3:185). Is that not regretable?

Charity is a grown up girl behaving like a kid without knowledge. To her, how is islam the right religion when allah himself/herself confirms Christians will have reward in heaven (Surah 2:62)?

Whoever is angry with his brother WITHOUT A CAUSE.

Didn't Jesus have a CAUSE for calling them fools?

Abdulsalam20: YOUR EVIDENCE PLS OR REFERENCE?

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews." -- Sahih Muslim 6985

"Allah's Apostle said, The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him'."Sahih Bukhari 4.52.177:

Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah not the Last Day........(Surah 9:29).

What is the Jews offence as they believe in one God too?

Rilwayne001:

Deluded fellow

Because you are sooo spiritually ignorant and blind.

Jesus is my standard, not Pope.

Akindarchi: sure...how did wikipedia enter the mix naw well that would be that about that from my end, like I said, I am not a fan of debates online...bye

I wonder what next you have to say after the plain TRUTH.

Wikipedia where a lot of lies are told by haters of the Bible has now become muslims relief. It is a pity.

Akindarchi: At this juncture you have established that you are fixated on what you belief to be true. It's of no use trying to answer any other question. Also with your talk about Allah being one of the 360 something idols in the kaaba, it is almost certain where you get your "info" from.
You may carry on claiming that muslims don't have an answer to your questions, but I am sure that any person without bias would see who here is closer to truth.
Another advice, hate websites are for haters, get info from real scholars, there are plenty online.
By the way, you say the bible is not corrupted, and that it being corrupted means God is weak? Well, the bible, God never promised to preserve, but the quran though, God promised to preserve, proof for this is in the quran itself. You talking about prophesies, well we still got one quran in one language, memorised in part and in whole by muslims worldwide. Even the incidents surrounding the time of revelation of most of the ayat (what you may call verses) are preserved. That looks like the blessings of God if you ask me.
Once again you are trying to pin the flops of Christianity on islam, and what's more you refuse to even accept them. Do you mean to say that Jesus went round preaching that Lot drank alcohol and approached his daughters for....you got some stuffs in the current day bible that are only matched by the kamasutra and you go and listen to someone tell you that the whole thing is inspired by God. Maybe when they finish editing 'eer sorry I meant revising the bible to allow for gay marriages you would sit up and be like what da....
Anyhow on a serious note, what's the purpose of this thread? Are you on a quest to find another version of the bible? As in someone already pointed out that there are different bibles in existence, chances are you only adhere to the one you were born into asin your family religion and sect. Do you even know what others say? Do you expect some muslims to be like "Hmmm! That must be true?! Since there is no more any authentic gospel like the quran claims there WAS the quran lied and hence I wanna be a christian (of some sort)". Are you trying to rub in our faces how little backing you guys have for your scripture? Are you trying to prove that the bible is not corrupt? Or are you just trying to win an argument

The TRUTH remains that there is no other Scripture than the Bible and no islamic apologist can provide other Bible apart from the existing one. Athough there are bible versions but they are all saying the same with different statement constructions. Mind you, the Devil can go to any extent to pollute God's words and that is why some sects like Jehovah Witness reconstruct their own Book, there could be more. The standard Bible is the King James Version and any translations or versions that contain different information from it is fake.

Nobody can corrupt the Bible, no matter how hard they try. Even allah didn't say so, he only said some changed the words with their TONGUES and not the WRITINGS. In another verse he said some change the PRACTICES not the WRITINGS (Surah 3:78, 4:46). Therefore all of your allegations are unfounded RUMOURS.

Hear what allah himself said: ''Perfect is the Word of thy Lord in TRUTH and JUSTICE. There is naught (nothing) that can CHANGE His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower (Surah 6:115). If allah is God nothing (nobody) can change His word.

Then, if His words cannot be changed and he had once spoken in the earlier Scriptures, why the need for the quran?

I can pre-empt your next question: Why the old and new testament in the Bible? God had spoken of the New Testament and His reasons for doing so in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 31:31-33). Please note that God did NOT promise to CHANGE His Laws, He said He would transfer them to the people's heart instead of being on paper.

Also note that after the NT He never promised to change it to the quran again. All the Bible passages muslims refer to as talking about Muhammad is fallacy. Jesus said Moses and all other prophets talked of Him (Luke 24:27 and verse 44).

Akindarchi: Truth be told, I am not learned enough in that field to answer those questions in the way you would like me to. The Arabs were not the custodians of the scripture of the Jews, if they did a bad job of recording and preserving their scriptures, it's not our headache. You place so much emphasis on the physical entity asking about who wrote the book and where is the book.
Who "wrote" the book is inconsequential, all that matters is on whose authority was it written, proof for this? The canonical gospels , these are documents whose only means of identifying the authors is a single name, we don't even know if it's their first name or last names used, but you accept them to be divine. Even a driver's license wouldn't be taken seriously if there was only one name on it...that's just a tangent.
Anyhow, so who exactly wrote the gospels, doesn't matter to you, was the injil in a written form as in a book? Not sure, who wrote the injil? I am not so sure, was the injil written in the time of Jesus? Not so sure. Where is the injil? Not sure, BUT (and a very big BUT) one thing is sure, the injil is not any of the present versions of the bible...while the bible may contain parts of the injil.
Maybe if muslims needed the injil we would have made some effort to dig deeper, but we got all we need in the quran and the traditions of the prophet

Let me expose the truth to you at this juncture, if you will accept it though.

Nobody changed any Scripture anywhere. In fact it is an insult to God if He would allow men to prevail on His words and got it changed successfully and now vow He would not allow it to be changed again by introducing the quran. It would mean God is weak and in rivalry with men. That is why I insisted that muslims should make available the original copy of Christian Scripture or rather the Scripture before the quran, which is not available. If it is true there was another Scripture originally written before the Bible apart from the partchments from where it was copied, it must have been in circulation first before it would be changed. If it was so we would have seen people whose father had the original copies who would have alerted.

What happened, if you will believe it, was that Allah was or is not the same God who spoke to the earlier prophets before Muhammad. For him to be accepted as God, he had to pretend as the God of the earlier prophets and to drag away people from the true God, he had to condemn the existing words of God and tried to replace them with his own. Allah was one of the 360 gods inside Kaaba and the chief of them.

malvisguy212: Paul becomes a follower of Jesus after an
encounter with Him about noon on the
road to Damascus. Paul's background was a 1st century
Rabbinical Jew. After this encounter with Jesus, God
changed Saul's name to Paul. Paul in Hebrew means little – some
believe this refers to his stature. Background Reading: Conversion of Paul (Saul):
Acts9:1- 9. Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out
murderous threats against the Lord's disciples. He went to the high priest 2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues in
Damascus, so that if he found any there
who belonged to the Way, whether men
or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. 3As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to
him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" 5 "Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied. 6 "Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must
do." 7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he
could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. 9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink
anything. 10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in
a vision, "Ananias!" "Yes, Lord," he answered. 11 The Lord told him, "Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a
man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. 12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands
on him to restore his sight." 13 "Lord," Ananias answered, "I have heard many reports about this man and
all the harm he has done to your saints in Jerusalem. 14And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest
all who call on your name." 15 But the Lord said to Ananias, "Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my
name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for
my name." 17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he
said, "Brother Saul, the Lord–Jesus, who
appeared to you on the road as you were
coming here–has sent me so that you may
see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit." 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul's eyes, and he could
see again. He got up and was baptized,
19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength.
Acts 9:1–19
Also read Acts 26:9-18


The bible never mention that mark meet jesus,

Now can you guys give the answer to the OP?

Thank you brother for your useful contributions. God bless you. Please let us not fall into their plan to derail the thread by answering questions not related to it. That is what they do whenever they cannot have no answer.

I always feel happy when I learned you have a muslim background and have received God's mercy.

Kingharzyz: If you want to know why followers of Jesus would enter heaven then read this!
JESUS WAS SENT TO THE JEW AS A MESSENGER OF GOD TO FURTHER STRENGTHEN THEIR FAITH IN THE MONOTHEISTIC RELIGION OF ABRAHAM AND ALSO TO CHECK THEIR INIQUITIES AND HYPOCRISY. AS PEOPLE OF THE BOOK, THOSE WHO FOLLOWED JESUS IN THE FIRST CENTURY AFTER HIS DISAPPEARANCE CONTINUED TO AFFIRM THE DIVINE UNITY.
IN FACT THE THE ARIANS WERE THE EARLIEST SCHOOLS OF UNITARIANS IN CHRISTIANITY. (WAMY,1989:502). HOWEVER CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE PERSON OF JESUS IN RELATION TO GOD LATER BROKE OUT AND THIS LEAD TO THE EMERGENCE OF SECTARIAN VIEW. THE FOLLOWER OF JESUS WERE ON THE PART OF TRUTH (I.e Monotheism) THE EMERGENCE OF HELLENIC INFLUENCE ON ST PAUL IS THAT HIS REVOLUTION. DOCTRINES OF ONLY BEGOTTEN SON" AND SAVIOR,REDEMPTION OF THE CROSS AS A SYMBOL OF FESTIVAL ARE NOT ORIGINAL CHRISTIANITY RATHER THEY'RE TRACEABLE TO GRAECO ROMAN god and goddess AS WELL AS EGYPTIAN IDOLATRY. THE DOCTRINE OF TRINITY WAS NOT ORIGINAL WITH CHRISTIANITY. IT DEVELOPED LATER AFTER THE DEATH OF JESUS.

Trash!

All of your alleged offences of Christianity had been there before allah promised them heaven.

Kingharzyz: aRe you sure Quran is totally opposite the bible ?
you have a lot to learn

Lies of the Devil. Where did you see Jesus praying like that? Muslims trade in lying.

Kingharzyz: stop fooling yourself Allah is Arabic name for GOD....
that verse you quoted was referring to idolaters....
beside the God of Christians is Jesus. you worship and give thanks to Jesus therefore your god is not Muslim Gos..... peace am out

You don't know what you are saying at all.

Allah's command to fight the people of the Scripture includes the Jews and not Christians alone.

What is the offence of the Jews who do not worship Jesus but believe in one God and yet they are to be fought?

Allah is to be suspected o!

Akindarchi: Alright, first off the quran does not authenticate the "bible", it vouches for the "injil" which translates in English to "good news", sound familiar? Of course it does, the "gospel" translates to the exact same thing. Coincidence?
Now a good fellow showed you evidence from the "bible" showing that Jesus already preached the "gospel"/goodnews/"injil" while he was on earth, alright pause here and understand what this means. Before crucifixion (alleged) , before ascension, before blocking Saul AKA Paul on his way to do "some you know what" to "you know who", the injil/gospel was with Jesus
Now allegedly you are more knowledgeable than the pope, so you might already know that historians have verified that it is certain that the canonical "gospels" were not written by the disciples...the only author I have seen that is verified is Paul who wasn't a disciple of Jesus, but yet managed fine to write the bulk of the books of the "bible" in the new testament...pause again see the difference between the "gospel" and the "bible"? Jesus didn't go around preaching disregard of the commandments, or faith without action, etc on the contrary he taught the exact opposite
classic examples, Jesus according to you was God on earth, one of his purposes was to show us how to live according to the will of God. Jesus was circumcised, but Paul said it wasn't necessary. When asked how to attain salvation, Jesus said stuffs about works of righteousness and the like, but Paul said salvation lies in the believing in the cross...Jesus refused to be called "good" but then Paul called him son of God and now you call him God.
I could have attempted to shed some light on the other questions raised, but I would see how you respond to this attempt of mine so as to know whether it's even worth my time

good news

I think you didn't understand my questions. You were just talking generally and did not pinpoint them one by one. If you are asked three questions for example, it is just normal to answer them one by one and not muddle all of them. Sorry, I could see where you answered the questions.

Let me try you with just two to make it easy for you:

Quran says Jesus was given a Book:

Where is that Book?

Who wrote it?

If you do well in those two, you can proceed to other questions. Waiting!

Abdulsalam20: [/b]SO WIKIPEDIA WILL LIE SMH grin grin grin grin...........WIKIPEDIA WILL HAVE SPECIFY IF IT IS JERUSALEM
JERUSALEM IS NO MORE AN HOLY LAND
[b]JEREMIAH 13:27 "I God have seen your adultery and evil and
arrogance,WOE,unto you JERUSALEM never shall you be
holy again"
GALANTIANS 4:25 "Because Hangar is the Sinai mountain of
Arabia that stands for the (cursed) Jerusalem of today.

If Jerusalem was cursed for adultery, yet allah permitted muslims to compulsorily commit it, eh?

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle as saying:
Verily Allah has fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in and which he of NECESSITY MUST COMMIT (or there would be no escape from it). Sahih Muslim #6421, 6422.

So all muslims including Muhammad must commit adultery.

tartar9: when did the wars start.all the groups you mentioned dont even make up 0.1% of muslims and not more than 30 years old islam is 1400yrs.and the islamic world has always been peaceful until west and israel brought their trouble.

As their quran encourages terrorism, those who are peaceful today may turn wild tomorrow. Most muslims are potential terrorists.

Ultimus: The new converts are living in the wrong times and are poor students of history. Christians are also guilty of terrorism. There were a lot of Muslims, Pagans and irreligious people that were killed during the Crusades and Inquisitions. The bloodthirst of domineering and intolerant religions (like islam and christianity) will not abate and it will always find justification and motivation for it's egregious deeds. Converting whimsically doesn't make sense in retrospect.

How long was the Crusades and what is happening now?

eyeopener: You asking me questions when all of you couldn't attempt mine?

Allah talks about a Book given to Jesus:

Where is that Book and let's compare it with the present Bible?

Who wrote it?

What was allah doing when men prevailed and changed his words?

Was it that allah could not trace the original of his Scripture and had to present Quran?

Allah himself said "not all the people who distorted the Scripture, meaning some had the genuine, why not present the same Scripture instead of introducing another?

Despite allah being angry with the Jews and Christians cursing them, he still promised to reward them in heaven, why was he inconsistent?

If the Book the Christians practice is good enough for them to be granted heaven, why the introduction of islam?

So many, so many deceptions.

SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

Questions muslims can't answer.

Christians, copy it and paste it for them when necessary.

Next!!!

Rilwayne001: ^^


Thought i was chatting with someone who possess a higher intellectual capacity, not knowing you are one of those secondary school guys that are at home because of this ebola holiday declared by the FG. So you used that opportunity to log in here and open silly threads.

Not your fault, if not seun who has not adopt any medium in screening underage clowns that open threads here.

Anyway your schoool resumes on the 22nd of this month.

*thread unfollow*

You must surely unfollow as you have nothing to contribute. No thanks for your wasted time.