₦airaland Forum

Katsumoto:
Why do you persist in embarrassing yourself? Try to understand the facts first before making a fool of yourself.

He could not control his troops. Right or wrong? He was the most senior officer after Ironsi was killed in cold blood. Right or wrong?

chyz:
Then Major Benjamin Adekunle (the famed “Black Scorpion”) drew the ire of some northern soldiers for promising safe passage to a group of Igbo officers.  Unbeknown to Adekunle, an ambush had been laid for these soldiers by northern troops. Several of the Igbo soldiers were killed, and Adekunle himself was only saved by the intervention of Captain Gibson Jalo.

How can a man be so cruel during the war, when he spared his Igbo brothers during the counter-coup?  

chyz:
Amidst the murders, tension, and mutual suspicion, there was a remarkable display of military camaraderie in the 1st battalion at Enugu. Northern and Igbo officers toasted each other with drinks, and posed together for a final photograph before northern soldiers departed the battalion following the agreement to return all soldiers to their respective regions of origin. Such comradeship in the midst of bitterness was not isolated.

This is a weakness of the Ndigbo character. To spare the lives in such times, when your own life would not be spared if there were in another region.

chyz:
The army's Provost Marshal, Major Ekanem, was shot dead on Carter Bridge by Sergeant Lapdam while en route to an errand for Gowon.

Another Ibibio man was slaughtered simply, because he was from the East.

I think Musiwa was right. Yorubas could not stop anything from happening, because their numbers were few in the military.

75% of the military was Northern.

seanet02:
No, he was not weak, there was possibly nothing he could do, the troops were 90 hausas who have been brainwashed that they could only take orders from their kinsmen.
He tried his best but the odds were definitely against him ezeuche.

Possibly true. . . Maybe I am being unfair. If I was put in his situation, I would have simply fled, because how could he expect to control Northern soldiers, when even Senior Northern officers could not.

seanet02:
Let us be sincere with ourselves, ibo officers of the january coup were the remote cause of the murdering of ibo officers and civilians in the counter coup.
When you carried out a coup in which all your own tribesmen  earlier marked for assasination escaped without a scratch and other people tribesmen were massacred then you should bear the brunt.
Ironsi now put petrol for fire, instead of putting the mutineers to trials and appropriate punishment meted out to them you  just put them in Prison. 
People should put themselves in the shoes of the Northern troops.
Though, bello, Balewa and Akintola were the cause of all this, the moment they cooked up  stories against Awolowo and jail him unfairly they should have know karma is a *****.

The counter-coup could have been prevented. Ironsi surrounded himself with Northerners to appear that he did not have any ethnic biases. He should of surrounded himself with trusted Igbo and Yoruba soldiers.

This nation would have been divided if Western diplomats did not play a role in keeping this nation one.

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The beast himself who suffered a humiliating defeat at the hands of brave Biafrans at Abagana

chyz:
The northern officers were joined by a number of federal secretaries, two Judges, prominent northern civil servants and by British and American diplomats who asked the northern soldiers to drop their plan to secede from the federation. As negotiations continued in Ikeja, the explosive Lt-Col Murtala Muhammed was the most vociferous and uncompromising advocate of northern secession. The civilian participants managed to persuade the northern soldiers to drop their secessionist plan, and their most senior member; Lt-Col Gowon was appointed Head of State.

Babafemi Ogundipe was very weak. His own soldiers disrespect him. He was not part of the counter-coup, but he did nothing to stop it.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/BabafemiOgundipe.JPG

chyz:
A coup in the Eastern region (and the elimination of the Eastern region's military governor, Lt-Col Emeka Ojukwu) was also planned. However, this plan was forestalled by the responsible acts of the commander of the Enugu based 1st battalion, Lt-Col David Ogunewe. On learning of the mass murder taking place in other military formations in the country, Lt-Col Ogunewe locked his battalion's armoury and placed it under the joint guard of northern and southern officers. He also encouraged northern and southern soldiers to live together in the mess and grounds of the battalion. Among those who were to have staged the Enugu coup were Lt Shehu Musa Yar'Adua and Captain Gibson Jalo (who later rose to the rank of Lt-General and became President Shagari's Chief of Defence Staff).



As in January, the coup did not take off in the east or mid-west (where no troops were stationed). However, Lt-Col Murtala Muhammed repeatedly sent signals for northern soldiers in Enugu to complete the coup in the Eastern region. Some northern officers attempted to break into the Enugu armoury but were overpowered. The failure of the coup in the east created a stalemate similar to the one that existed in January 1966 when Nzeogwu was in control of the north, while Ironsi had the south. This time, the counter-coup had succeeded in every region other than the east. The desire of the northern officers to extend the coup to the east led to the civil war, and the war itself may be regarded as a continuation of that coup. Only in January 1970 did northern troops gain control of the east (and by extension the whole of Nigeria) and finish the counter-coup after a four year stalemate.

chyz:
Also in Kaduna, the commander of the 2nd Recce Squadron; Major Isong (an Eastern officer of non-Igbo origin) was killed.  Among the officers stationed in Isong’s squadron in Kaduna was a young Lieutenant named Ibrahim Babangida.

They were killing all soldiers from the East. 

My grandfather was wise to gather our family and leave Lagos for England, because even Ibibios were not safe.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=482611.msg8777392#msg8777392 date=1311475335]Yawn.[/quote]Of course you would yawn. You do not even know Nigerian history. You simply post historical pictures without knowing the significance behind them. Your lilliputian mind cannot understand the significance of this thread.

bashr4:
the problem with nigerians is not that they dont know or like the truth but that they hate the fact that it means ojukwu and the eastern council that called for a seccesion of the east were right, they would rather turn such informative post to insults against ojukwu and easterners. black people not just nigerian hate the truth.

This brings tears to my eyes. Ironsi should not have surrounded himself with Northern soldiers.

I hope Igbos will never forget this. As long as the Igbo man walks the Earth, I hope they never forget.

The counter-coup of 1966 was a revenge coup against the Igbo who defied Northern power.

Ironsi's trust in the Northerners was his downfall.

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Warri is between Urhoboland and Itsekiriland. I do not know how the Ijaw can claim Warri, but this is of no concern for the Ndigbo.

jason123:
As for Ezeuche, Obiagu and co,
Were you not all quiet when the Fulanis came to your land, rap.ed your women and killed your men?? COWARDS to the high heavens!!! I was even trying to defend them. All their men could do was to go to the streets and "protest" LOL. We itsekiris will atleast face them and if they kill us, well its all good BUT we do not run or "protest" and disrupt our own activities . . .LOL

The people who have committed that abomination have been dealt with in that community. 

I don't know if you were old enough to remember, but do you remember what happened to the Hausa in Onitsha and Aba when they were rioting about the Miss Universe pageant?

Do not put the Igbo to a test.

Sun of god:
[size=14pt]You must be: [/size]


Passionate about murder,


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Willing to kill for fun - including your friends,


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And a cold hearted animal.

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(These traits 'Appear' to be contained within the 'Genetic' make up of Northerners/Muslims - Just an observation)

If the Kalabari believe that they originated from Warri, then Ijaw are strangers to the East.

The Igbos are just reclaiming our land that your ancestors took from our riverine Igbo brethren.

Ibime:
NL tribal Warriors! Any small neighbourhood skirmish, they'll turn it into a ten page discussion.

Ijaws do not play with land dispute. They react like niggaz with their backs against the water. They must swim or fight. Most Ijaw leaders of yesteryear were crowned for their ability to find good land for their people. Any good Pere is one that can lead his people to good Kule (land).

Incidentally, Ijaws are said to be the most aboriginal people in Nigeria. The Ijaw man still believes that he owns all of Southern Nigeria and allowed other tribes to settle on land because he had no use for it and preferred to be on water. My elders used to tell me years ago how Bonny people "allowed" Ogoni people to settle on their current land and directed them to go and cultivate there when the Ogoni showed up on the shoreline. This is a prevalent mentality amongst Ijaw, whether rightly or wrongly.

Warri issue though is a historical one going back more than half a millenium. It is no news that Warri was an old Ijaw settlement from which Ijaws were pushed out of by Benin Kingdom and others 500 years ago. This is what prompted many Ijaw tribes to move South, and many Ijaw peoples in Rivers State today such as Kalabari claim to have started their journey from Warri over 500 years ago. Till today "Wari" means House ie Compound (Family House) in Ijaw language and that's where the name Warri comes from.

Of course, Ijaws have no right to Warri anymore than Jews have right to Palestine which they left 2000 years ago. Whatever happened in the past is gone, likewise Opobo land is no longer Ikot Abasi land, neither is Abonnema an Ekpoma land. The point is that struggle for land, constant migration and wars have been the Ijaw story for the past 1000 years. Ijaws have lived as far north as Benin hundreds of years ago and have been forced to flee and fight for the last millenium so they do not play when it comes to land issues.

alj harem:
educate yourself

That was not what were discussing you said the CURRENT presidents of each country were Fulani and you were WRONG!

Where is the liar alj harem? I thought you said the president of Cameroon, Mali and Senegal were Fulani?

adejoro75:
Sanusi and his desperate lies
First he claimed an Igbo man invested in Islamic Bank without saying what sort of Igbo man that was (we had to dig it up to show that it was a muslim Igbo who has lived all his life in the North)
Now he claims Anambra borrowed from Islamic Bank
Which Islamic Bank? The one that is already in operation or the one inside the an-us of Sanusi?
Clearly, Sanusi is using Igbo name (99% Christians) to score cheap propaganda points with his useless islamic bank that will die a natural death in Nigeria.

This man should lose his position for all of his lies.

jason123:
^^^ Ode. I have not said[b] COUNTLESS[/b] times on this forum that I see myself as a Yoruba more than Itsekiri

Your very first post on Nairaland said you were a Yoruba man. Not an Itsekiri. I have never seen an Itsekiri refer to themselves as a Yoruba man. NEVER!

They call themselves Itsekiri first before a Yoruba.

They will probably be planning their next phase unfortunately during Ramadan.

jason12345:
am new to to nairaland. . first of all am a yoruba boy. with all due respect to the NIGERIANS(biafrans) y did they invade ore and y the awolowo not form our country (oduduwa) or form southern Nigeria with the igbos for christ sake!!! . y join with the hausas. we and the igbos have so much in common than the hausas. y didnt awolowo instigate the killing of the hausas and fulanis since they killed fajuyi._{i just dont understand please someone should explain.}
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alj harem:
yes keep decieving yourself, the current president of cameroun, mail and senegal are fulanis

so who is hated ?

kaduna is hausa/fulani land so what are you talking about

Liar! Liar!

Cameroonian president Paul Biya is not Fulani, he is Beti-Pahuin.

Mali's president Amadou Toure is Mandinka

Senegal's president Abdoulaye Wade is Wolof.

Nigeria sitting on a keg of gun powder – Ngige

Former governor of Anambra State and now the Senator representing Anambra Central District, Dr Chris Nwabueze Ngige, was in Benin City last week for the retreat organized for governors in the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) controlled states.

In this cat with Saturday Vanguard Ngige speaks on the ongoing legal battle between him and the former Minister of Information, Prof.Dora Akunyili, the 7th Senate and the issue of Boko Haram. He warns that with the prevailing security situation in the country, the nation is sitting on a keg of gun powder.Excerpts:

We hear you may abandon the governorship election legal battle since you are now in the senate.

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No no no!. I have not abandoned the gubernatorial legal battle. As you know, I went to court to challenge two things. First, I said that the man declared winner did not meet the constitutional requirements. He has majority of the votes cast quite alright but he did not score 25 per cent of all the votes cast in 2/3rd of all the Local Governments in Anambra state. Anambra state has 21 local governments and 2/3rd of 21 is 14. He has that in 13 but they are claiming that what we are talking about was all the votes cast, not valid votes cast.

In the INEC manual, they defined all these things. That is the first leg. Then the second leg is the voters’ register. 17 per cent of people in Anambra state were alleged to have voted and that 17 per cent translated to about 203,000 voters. Out of it you have 1.8million voters. The issue of whether that register was valid, that is the big question. Can we start to go for an election? INEC has partially answered it. When after their retreat in Uyo, they declared that Nigeria’s voters register was faulty and in particular that of Anambra and Akwa Ibom.

So the question becomes when you deprived people of voting, people who registered and they turned out on election day and their names were not seen, and the people are in the majority, about 83 per cent, can such an election said to be in compliance with the Electoral Act? We are saying no, it should be nullified and a fresh election should take place. So the case is still on. As a matter of fact, the Court of Appeal sitting in Enugu, delivered judgment two days ago, saying that we should go back to the Tribunal, that a new tribunal should be set up for us to try the case de novo. So we are waiting now for the Court of Appeal to give us a new tribunal to try the case.

It seems you enjoy having political battles with people. Recently, it was Prof Dora Akunyili. How do you feel always battling?

Prof.Akunyili is my family friend. I don’t want to discuss her but it is good that we are in this political logjam now and it affords one the opportunity to re-appraise relationship you had in the past and know whether the relationship was blossoming because one is gaining from you or the other way.

It is unfortunate that we found ourselves in this situation. Unfortunate, in the sense that at least she came to solicit for my blessing as former governor of the state sometime in October last year and she came again in December. That time, I had not made my interest known because my party had not told former governors that we were the ones that would carry the party’s flag in the senatorial elections so that we could make our party alive. And that was what I did.

What is your focus in the senate?

The 7th Senate will be the best Nigeria will have. As a matter of fact, the 7th National Assembly will be different. We have many former governors there and apart from that, we have people who came from the House of Representatives. We have also some senators coming back for third term and fourth term like the senate president. So the membership is already a qualitative one. Again Mark as senate president is very experienced; he went to school and vast in many ways. So he knows the politics of the place.

So we have good leadership. And when Senator David Mark wanted to come back, some of us voiced our apprehension about the image of the senate. And we know that one of the cardinal things that made the image bad was the so called jumbo pay. And before we came in, we surveyed that issue of jumbo pay and we discovered that actually it was not a question of salaries and allowances of senators that was called the jumbo pay, it was a misconception. Whatever they took in terms of allowances and salaries were as prescribed by the Revenue Mobilization Commission, so it constitutional.

It is this same commission that fixed the salaries of President, Vice President, Judges, senate president and National Assembly members. So National Assembly members did not breach that. What people misconstrued as jumbo pay was the running cost of the National Assembly. And that was what Sanusi was alluding to that it was gulping 25 per cent of the national recurrent expenditure not the entire budget.

Over head cost, which includes refreshment, fuel, stationeries and others, so this is what is called recurrent expenditure. So in order for the National Assembly to feel the pain of the ordinary Nigerians, we advised that they must be slashed. And the Senate President being the chairman of the National Assembly, consulted with former Speaker Bankole before we were sworn in.

And they agreed that the money must be slashed. And after we were sworn in, he informed us that some of those things we were talking about before swearing in have been taken care of. 40 per cent slash of the recurrent expenditure. And it is a very big sacrifice because it means that even the travels and tours funds were slashed.

And from this recurrent expenditure, you take care of your own constituency offices and sometimes it is actually very expensive because you have to open constituency offices in your area, like I am planning to open seven constituency offices which I will furnish and employ people there.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/boko-haram-nigeria-sitting-on-a-keg-of-gun-powder-ngige/

I support this!

ChinenyeN:
What we have to look forward to, at the very least, is that the Ikwere, Ogoni, etc. minorities will keep their Ijo situation contained. . at the very least.

Bliss4Lyfe:
The Ijaws are not a Problem to Ndiigbo. The have never been a Problem to Ndiigbo. So let us leave them to their devices as they have left us to ours. In terms of mutual interest we deal and their after everybody to your devices.

As long as they are not claiming PH, it shall be of no concern for the Ndigbo. Let them seek their frustration West of the River Niger.

ChinenyeN:
That is an issue for their 'minority' neighbors. It is not my issue and it doesn't have to be my issue. Ikwerre, Ogoni, Itsekiri, etc. it is their issue to sort out.
They will do what they can, and hopefully try what they must.

Ok Thucydides.  It is not our concern.

alj harem:
keep decieving yourself, u would deal fulani herdmen and not get the whole igbo race desimated

Who is afraid of Fulani?

They are treated like dogs in other West African countries. No one is afraid. Even the Middle Belt is not afraid.

Are the people of Jos afraid?

Are the people of Kaduna afraid?

Are the Tiv afraid?