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[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=482611.msg8779964#msg8779964 date=1311527526]Cool your temper. You cant always have things your way. Facts are facts.[/quote]

Katsumoto used to be very calm in his debates.

Africa should be providing food the world. We have enough fertile land to provide food for not only us, but for the world.

I agree with Arosa and Horus.

Katsumoto:
Fear

Do I have to spell it out?

What fear? These soldiers were in core Igboland. And with a possible hostile population. The Igbo soldiers had nothing to fear, because they were at home.

Katsumoto:
For the same reason why Ojukwu, the Governor of the Eastern region, ran from Enugu to Onitsha to hide instead of trying to crush the coup. Were there any soldiers in Onitsha? Stop asking dumb questions.

There was no coup in the East in January 1966 for obvious reasons. The July coup did not take place in the East because of the actions of the commander, David Ogunewe and Benjamin Adekunle. They prevented the Northern soldiers from gaining access to the Armory and ensured that all officers stayed together in the Mess with the NCOs on the parade ground.

You do not make sense. What does Ojukwu have anything to do with why Eastern soldiers did not slaughter non-Eastern soldiers in the East?

bellten:
@ Ezeuce,
I have witnessed the savage attacks being meeted out to you by Igbo-aters on this forum. They say you are a tribalist, but you are a hero,  who is passionately defending his people against injustice. My quetion is, why don't you and other serious Igbo activists like Chyz, Obiagu, Zeeno, e.t.c, form a private forum in igbodefender.com?

There, no one can derail your pro-Igbo threads, and you get to ban anyone who comes in through the back door to do that. Imagine being admin on forum discussing your 'palm oil' and 'true extent of Alaigbo' threads. That's wat you get by starting your forum at igbodefender.com.

If you need a private group, go start an Ezeuche's group thread there now. The Igbos need what you have to offer, but here is not the right place for uninterupted discussion by Ndigbo. As I speak to you, I have my own forum called Bellten Club, and I'm thinking of making it private and inviting a few trusted people.

I will take a look at the site. But there so many pro-Igbo websites. They need to consolidate, because I see vibrant discussion on every forum. Many of my views would be considered lenient to some of the things I hear many of my Igbo brothers and sisters say.

We need pictures like pictures for Asaba International Airport and Enugu International Airport.

houvest:
Wesley if you really are Igbo, you should either read further than Ben Gbulie or keep silent.  I never approve of the bloodshed perpetrated by the 5 majors (4 were Igbo) and many footsoldiers( mostyly non-Igbo) but sitting their and insinuating that because the coup was headed by an Igbo, the pogrom of hundreds of thousands of Igbo by the North is justified because if the situation were reversed, Igbo would have done a similiar thing (ie kill hundreds of thousands of northern civilians)  leaves me speechless if really you are Igbo. It is not a must that you must comment. May the hundreds of thousands souls of all those murdered have mercy on you and may their blood not call up to heaven for a similiar fate for you.

Wesley is not an Igbo. How could he say that about his people? I choose not to believe that he is one of our own, because I never seen an Igbo defend the death of their kinsmen. They may blame the first coup, but they never defend the senseless killing of INNOCENT civilians. Innocent women, men and children to be butchered like animals. How can anyone defend that?

Why didn't the Igbo soldiers in the East slaughter the soldiers of ethnic origins who were slaughtering their people in the other regions?

Ngwakwe:
He (with right leaning ideology) killed his own people (with left leaning ideology) not for difference in religion, but because of Government policy on immigration. A christian killed christians due to differences in ideologies of the ruling party.

Good post!

Disgusting hypocrites who only mentioned by name, because I am Igbo while forgetting others who have commited far worse crimes then my defense of my people.

Ask yourself, how many threads have I created to mock another group. If you go through all my post, you will know how few they are in number.

And I will defend my Igbo people with a viciousness like never seen.

Why do some Nairalanders blame this mess on the Igbo coup? The events can all be traced to the crisis in the Western Region between Akintola and Awolowo.

Onlytruth:
^^

I would only lionize Nzeogwu if he actually did that coup to stop Igbo enemies in Nigeria. Fact is he did not.
If the January 1966 was actually an "Igbo coup", there should not have been a counter coup. EVER.

I lionize the man, because he did what he believed what was right for a better Nigeria. The other groups perceived it was an "Igbo coup" and that perception still lingers. It is not much we can do about that.

US removes Nigeria from terror list

BY HUGO ODIOGOR

Nigeria may have  been delisted from  the countries that harbour or sponsor terrorism against the United States (US) and its allies which was the source of diplomatic tension between the two countries following the ill-fated attempt by a foreign based Nigerian student, Farouk Umar Farouk Abdulmuttallab, to bomb a plane in Detroit, US  on December 25, 2009.

Nigeria’s external image took a dip in January 2010, when the US placed the country on global terror list following the failed attempt  by Abdulmutallab to detonate the bomb strapped to his pants  while, on  the domestic front, there have been a  spate of bomb blasts targeted at politicians, the security agencies, churches and academic institutions by the Boko Haram sect operating in the northern part of the country.

Foreign Affairs Ministry sources told Sunday Vanguard that Washington has removed Nigeria’s name from the terror watch list which subjects Nigerians as well as nationals from the listed countries to special security checks on their arrival to the US.

The sources said that before he was inaugurated  on May 29,2011, President  Goodluck Jonathan took steps to  address  the impression created by the action of the US  authorities as Nigeria was not a known base for terrorist groups neither is the economic interest of the US and safety of its nationals in Nigeria in peril. The insinuation by an MI5 agent, according to the sources, that Al-Qaeda planned to use Nigeria as its operational base is without foundation.

Nigeria also took steps to convince the American leadership that “Nigeria as a state does not sponsor terrorism against its citizens or its neighbours or indeed other countries, regardless of differences in their foreign policy orientation and disposition.” One of the sources added:”It was therefore an overreaction on the part of the US authorities to use the action of one youth to brand, target and subject over 150million other people to odious treatment, through invasive searches and other humiliating security checks”.

Nigeria, the sources maintained,  has sped  up the passage of the Anti-Terrorism and Other Related Offences Act 2010 to underscore  her  commitment to tackling  terrorism at  the domestic and international fronts. “We are the first in Africa to do this and we have been fully compliant and cooperative with international security agencies in exchange of intelligence on counter terrorism but this does not mean that there are no challenges as we have seen in the Boko Haram activities in the bombing of the headquarters of Nigeria Police, the reckless use of  improvised explosive devices to attack military and security personnel in Abuja, Suleja, Bauchi, Borno, Kaduna and other parts of the country,” one of the sources stated.

“We have since told the Presidency of the need to  take proactive steps to mobilise public opinion, support and action to tackle the scourge of terrorism which has adverse socio-political and economic consequences for Nigeria within and outside its borders.

“As you may  know, all American flights carry  marshals who are trained to combat  possible in-flight terror attack. There are other counter-terrorism measures that are taken which we should keep off the record.” Apart from the US, members of the European Union  (EU) have stepped up their  support for Nigeria’s anti-terrorism war.

France, Germany and Britain have indicated their willingness to aid  Nigeria  on  the  war against terrorism. The sources said the support  by the EU countries will come in  form of training for security agencies and provision of technical support to counter terrorism in the country.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/us-removes-nigeria-from-terror-list/

We need more Igbos like this man.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/430746_Nzeogwu_jpgd42c44919b9e49d3b3ca17d01c8cbfb3

But instead of being loyal to Nigeria, he needs to be loyal to Alaigbo.

oyb:
who needs a fisherman when we have a drunken spare parts seller to give us rascals comic relief

Tell your brothers in the swamps to stop starting fights with those who tolerate them.

Onlytruth:
To my Igbo brothers,

We don't need to ally with anybody in Nigeria. What we need is a "cultural revolution" in Igboland.

There are too many things wrong with the way we approach life and how we chose to relate with others in the Nigerian dungeon.
We need to make FUNDAMENTAL changes in our mindset, philosophy and worldview; else, we will not survive.  There have  been too many wicked acts and conspiracies against us in Nigeria, yet we never return same to the perpetrators.
Some things need to die in Igboland for us to survive, and they are the following:

(1)Lack of understanding of how others see us:  We need to understand that our way of life attract envy from other humans, even non-black groups. I see it every time we organize our parties and cultural events overseas. We are different. Hence we must learn to expect hate.

(2) We are too material conscious: I have come to understand that we are a highly progressive people. However, we are mixing "quest for achievement" with "love of money". They are not the same. We can keep the former while keeping the later under check. If you excel in positive output or work, money will come. Naturally.

(3)We need to learn from our Jewish kins NEVER TO FORGIVE any crime against us: We must learn to pursue those who wronged us FOREVER till they meet their demise.

(4) We must embrace violence with a passion: We must meet our enemies at the gate with the understanding that we must keep our guns FOREVER because the way of man is violent. We should stop expecting peace when we are surrounded by deeply entrenched enemies of our survival. See how the northern coup plotters continued killing us even after they had killed the Head of state and thousands of Igbo and easterner army personnel. They still continued killing CIVILIANS in THOUSANDS. We should really go home and reflect on these.

When we are  done with this cultural revolution, we should emerge different and be like the Israelis - A people who stop their enemies BEFORE the enemy strikes. A people who win ALL their wars even in far away territories.

We can do these even now in Nigeria. If we do it right, stoopid crimes will vanish from Igboland, and we can even wake up one day to announce to the whole world that we want to secede (if that is what we want) and NOBODY would dare try to stop us. 
We can do these. Yes we can.

A true nwa afo Igbo!

But we do need allies or groups with similar interest. We do not have to like them, but they can assist us.

oyb:
must be bad to be a desperate chest beater who no one takes seriously 

Dem send you fisherman?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=719075.msg8777816#msg8777816 date=1311488419]Eze, you have corrupted that chap like you did many before him.[/quote]Did I?

I see this as my Igbo brothers and sisters speaking with one voice. We are waking up to the true situation we find ourselves in.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=718885.msg8777957#msg8777957 date=1311491208]^^^ Interesting. Let me Yoruba male guards come and see this.[/quote]And prevent the inevitable?

Ileke-Idi 

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lagcity:
It is ego on both sides that stops the Yoruba and Igbo from uniting. I was at a Igbo/Yoruba wedding in beltsville, md in may and it wasn't only the hispanic waiters who couldn't tell the difference between the two groups; I COULDN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!

Agreed. . . It is still foolish, because as we fight, the North continues to rule us.

ChinenyeN is becoming a true Igbo champion.

He represents the growing frustration amongst Igbo youth.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=482611.msg8777587#msg8777587 date=1311481569]Eze,

Sometimes you need to pause, reflect on your thoughts before splatting them on the board.

East and West need treaties of trade alliance and security guarantees, but UNITED as in one sovereignty, hell NO! 

I don't know about Easterners but Westerners are ready to start a new march forward and we don't want any attachments.[/quote]How can you expect this to happen, when we are both trapped in this dungeon called Nigeria, because the Northerners wish to keep this nation one?

The Igbos would make natural allies to the Yoruba, because both groups are similar in terms of education and affluence.

That is why outside observers say the WEALTHY south.

chyz:
Even southerners have learnt, and accepted, that they cannot govern Nigeria without the co-operation of the north and its soldiers. The late Moshood Abiola first sought the blessing of senior northern officers, and the Sultan of Sokoto before contesting for, and declaring himself, President of Nigeria respectively. Quite why a man who won an election should seek another's blessing before asserting himself the winner of that election, is mystifying. Did President Shehu Shagari ask for the blessing of Lt-Gen Alani Akinrinade or the Oba of Benin before contesting for, or declaring himself President following his electoral victory in 1979?



The failure to bring any of the mutineers and murderers of late 1966 to book gave a platform for the numerous military coups of the following years. That coup established that a “successful” coup plotter would never be called to account for his actions. We have paid the price for our failure to enforce discipline, and for our acceptance of the law of the gun. The fact that men who murdered a Head of State, and their professional colleagues can occupy government positions, is itself symbolic of the indiscipline in Nigerian society till today.

This post remains true. That is why the South needs to unite. The truth is staring at us.

Katsumoto:
If it was that easy, Ironsi wouldn't have been shot by his own men. While Ironsi was alive, he was the most senior officer and he couldn't control his troops as well. They were victims of ethnic soldiering.

Secondly, Ogundipe's hands were tied by ethnic circumstances started by groups other than his own.

Always remember that I am watching to puncture any lies or factual inaccuracies that you may have been fed. Ogundipe was one of the finest officers in Nigerian history.

I apologize for insulting him. I did not know that he tried to suppress the counter-coup.

chyz:
Now firmly in control of the army, northern officers distributed senior military postings among themselves and created a northern military dynasty. Since the counter-coup, 17 officers have occupied the post of Chief of Army Staff. Of these 17, 15 have been northerners (the only two southerners to occupy the post during that time; Lt-Generals Alani Akinrinade and Alexander Ogomudia, were appointed by General Obasanjo in 1979, and 2001 respectively). The northern soldiers who carried out the counter-coup have constituted themselves into Nigeria's de facto ruling class. Of the soldiers who took part in the counter-coup, four (Murtala, Buhari, Babangida, Abacha) became Head of State. Several of them held prominent government and security positions throughout the last three decades.

To think that there are Igbos on NL who support Buhari.

Someone who killed their kinsmen during the counter-coup.  

And then the Buhari supporters wanted us to vote for him?