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TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by FADEO: 2:59pm On Dec 16, 2016
Rhonkee:
Congrats on your visa issuance. Please I have an interview for early January, if you don't mind me asking was your account balance over 6M or less? Just tryna figure out their expectation with this dollar rates.
Will await your response.
Tnx
No, the account balance was 3M, but the inflow and out flow was over 40M so the VO did not check the balance. He only checked the first page of the account statement where you have the total credit and debit.

Hope this helps
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by FADEO: 1:39am On Dec 14, 2016
chibertha:
Documents for USA can only notorised by a USA authorized notary public.
Just walk into the consulate in Lagos from Monday to Thursday between 10 am to 2pm. All the forms you need are there free fill the one you require and it will be notorised for you.
I don't know how much it is right now with the dollar increase just go with NGN 100k you will surely come back with a lot of change.
You can also check the website and send mail to LagosNIV@state.gov for the must up to date information.
What is this Notorisation stuff self?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by FADEO: 4:26am On Dec 12, 2016
colegold100:
Hello house,
The post above was posted by me early this year for those who can still remember.
As planned,Dw n daughter went for vacation in NY, spent 2 weeks and came back in july. in November we sent "update of intent letter" letting them know the visa was used for vacation n that we would also like to now use it for child birth. We still got the generic response tho.

We were able to get pta @N4000- 4k and another 4k black market @473.
Dw flew to houston few days ago 32weeks preg. She flew Turkish airline.( Lag to istanbul to houston)Flight was cool.

Fast foreward to POE.
Vo:gd evening
Dw: good evening
Vo: why are u here?
Dw: for child birth
Vo: could u pls place ur finger here
Vo: (stamped passport till June 2017)
Vo: sure u have contacted hospital/doctor here, have u made any payment yet.
DW: yes I have contacted hospital/Dr but payment yet as they requested cash on arrival.
Vo: how much do u have on you.
Dw: 8k plus (small change dey on top)
Vo: please be safe.


Dw said thank you 4 times.lol.The whole conversation didn't pass 3 mins.
Dats all o!
She is now in Houston and I should be joining her soon.
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this journey.
Stay blessed.
Nice one and goodly Favour, This is the kind of POE experience i pray for with DW when we leave in January hopefully.

Just a few question? 1. what hospital is your DW using and which Doctor?
2. 8k dollars declared at the POE will that be good enough to hold as cash for the POE declaration?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by FADEO: 6:12am On Dec 11, 2016
As for change of intent. What if u got a visa for child birth and decide not to have a child again in the US. Is there a need to write to the embassy for change of intent as vacation 6months after having your child in Nigeria.
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by FADEO:
This morning feels different. One huddle crossed. Thank God for grace and favour.

Thank God for an interactive session and discussion forum like this that gets one prepared to a very large extent

I was at the consolate with my DW and my first daughter (20months old) yesterday, wednesday 30th, 2016. After the long 1hr 30 minutes screening process with a large crowd ( i wondered if this dollar increase dey affect everybody self), we final got to the VO

DH: Good morning with a super smile i dont have naturally (Daughter repeated after me)
VO: Good morning with smile too, Passport Please.
(handed Passport to her)
VO: Why are you going to the US.
DH: For Child birth and subsequently for vacation and visit
VO: (Turns to DW) So madam you will be having a baby in the US.
DW: Yes madam. (DH bringing out correspondence)
VO: Do you have correspondence with Doctor and Hospital?
DH: Yes ( handed over the correspondence)
VO: have you travelled before?
DH: Yes
VO:where?
DH: Ghana and UAE, Dubai
VO: As a family
DH: Yes
VO: Where do you work?
DH: I work for so so so and so (handed over to her recommendation/introduction letter from my HR department)
VO: (read throught the letter) Hmmm, nice place to work. So what do you do there as bla bla bla
DH: I work as this and do than and that. My schedule is thus thus and thus
VO: ( turns to DW). do you work madam
DW: Yes. I have a register catering firm
VO: okay. do you have staff that will be on gound while you are away?
DW: yes I do
VO: How many permanent staff?
DW: 5
VO:Who is paying for the Bill. you or your company?
DH: I will be paying for the bill
VO: can i see a Statement of account
DH: (Handing over the bank Statement) that's 18 months statement of account madam
VO: (she smiled). okay
After Checking through
VO: i will be giving you the visa but will advice that you go along with these same documents you have brought here today and be straight about your reason just the way you are today
DH: Thank you.
VO: (she handed me all my documents including the white paper) Pick up your passport in PH in 4 business days
DH: ok (this relieve just came). Thank you
VO: you are welcome, do have a nice day
Daughter: Bye bye
VO: Bye (to daughter with the best smile so far)

that was our story. i had to come back here to do this as i learnt from other people interview and process.

Next step is to look for flight as we are planning to leave in mid January. we are planning air france. Please any advice for or against air france.

Thank you all
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by FADEO: 11:21pm On Nov 27, 2016
I finally found your visa interview and POE interview,

Just question please,
What Doctors correspondence did you give him? Letter of Acceptance?
also can i have a screen shot of the budget sheet. Just wanna be fully kitted and prepared to a reasonable standard because DW, my daughter and I will be having interview on Wednesday 30th in Lagos.



gurlnext2u:
Hello mamas and papas! How is everyone doing?
It is time for me to give back. I already shared my Poe experience a couple of months ago. I used hospital of providence in El Paso through doctores. Fees are pretty much the same as quoted on their website. It was a wonderful experience for me. Delivery room was too fine, felt like I was in a luxurious hotel room grin
I was in El Paso for about 14 weeks. I stayed at Extended stay America. Cost- $2600

Hospital bill- $2700 for vaginal delivery
Obgyn- $ 2500
Ultrasound can- $200
Hearing test- $267
Pathology for baby- $190
Pathology for me- $90
Circumcision- $185
Transportation- I used uber, very convenient and cheap compared to regular cabs. Since Naira denominated cards are now restricted for use abroad, you can link your dollar card.
Pediatrician- $250, then subsequent visit $70
My mum joined me a month after I arrived El Paso, thank God for her life. My mother in law also came to El Paso hehehehe... Lucky me.
Birth certificate was ready after 4 working days, consent form was notarized at US embassy in Abuja. Hubby mailed it through DHL, received it after 2 working days.
U.S. Passport- $165 for expedited fee, it took 1 working day.
I had the passport 3 weeks before I was due to travel home, I didn't want any stories with Naija visa or passport
Naija visa- $385, took 3 working days.
Infant ticket- $380, I also paid for bassinet seat for $35 per route i.e hou- fra, then fra-Naija
Lufthansa gave me a lot of headache concerning this infant ticket, after paying for the ticket I thought everything was ok only for me to go to the airport to make enquiries requiring excess luggage and I was told my baby didn't have a ticket. I immediately called their customer service and they said it was rectified and that the ticket was issue and sent to my mail box. When we got to Houston on our way home, I tried to get a boarding pass for myself, my mum and my baby. Only for me to receive the shock of my life that my baby doesn't have a ticket. I almost shouted the airport down. Unfortunately my phone got bad and I couldn't show the infant ticket I had to the man at the check in counter. I asked him to call Lufthansa that there was no way I could pay for a bassinet seat without having an infant ticket. He told me he doesn't call airline customer services for passengers shocked can you imagine? This is a staff for Lufthansa o. I was so pained. Told me that we will not fly that my baby doesn't have a ticket. Somehow I remembered the confirmation number for my baby's ticket because it was similar to mine. He still said he couldn't find it on his system. That I should look for a pay phone and call Lufthansa. At this point I was really pissed. He then had the nerve to ask why I was shouting at him when he was trying to help. Help how? When he blatantly refused to call to find out what was going on. I walked out and my mum was already panicking. Our phones were not working. I eventually found a pay phone and then the announcement was made that boarding was about to start. I was able to speak to a customer care agent and I poured out my frustration on the poor woman. This thing pained me because I was told in confidence that my bs bay's ticket had been issued and now I was almost stuck in Houston. The lady said my baby has a ticket, I screamed at her that why is the man at the counter telling me rubbish that my baby cannot fly. I demanded for the ticket number and to my dismay it was completely different. The lady apologized profusely and said I should go back to the counter that she will hold on.
I marched back to the check in counter and gave him the ticket number. His supervisor was already saying I should pay for another ticket there[b], then later they will refund the money for the first ticket[/b] please read the last statement I made. How can they refund the money for the first ticket when they claimed I didn't have a ticket for my baby to start with. I just ignored the man. The first man that attended to me now said that the machine isn't accepting the ticket. I bluntly told him that it was his problem not mine. He should rectify it and give me the boarding passes. He then had to call Lufthansa. I said " I thought you said you don't call Lufthansa office for passengers"? This same airline refused to send me the correct ticket and you as a staff working for the airline you cannot assist. Let me stop here abeg, I am already getting angry recalling this nasty ordeal.
Bottom line is we got our boarding passes and we got home safely. My little king behaved. Flight was cool. The air hostesses adored him. I forgot to add that excess luggage was $200 per box. I wish everyone well. God bless you all.
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by FADEO: 10:43pm On Nov 27, 2016
Nice.... Will like to read through you POE experience at houston.

gurlnext2u:
Hello mamas and papas! How is everyone doing?
It is time for me to give back. I already shared my Poe experience a couple of months ago. I used hospital of providence in El Paso through doctores. Fees are pretty much the same as quoted on their website. It was a wonderful experience for me. Delivery room was too fine, felt like I was in a luxurious hotel room grin
I was in El Paso for about 14 weeks. I stayed at Extended stay America. Cost- $2600

Hospital bill- $2700 for vaginal delivery
Obgyn- $ 2500
Ultrasound can- $200
Hearing test- $267
Pathology for baby- $190
Pathology for me- $90
Circumcision- $185
Transportation- I used uber, very convenient and cheap compared to regular cabs. Since Naira denominated cards are now restricted for use abroad, you can link your dollar card.
Pediatrician- $250, then subsequent visit $70
My mum joined me a month after I arrived El Paso, thank God for her life. My mother in law also came to El Paso hehehehe... Lucky me.
Birth certificate was ready after 4 working days, consent form was notarized at US embassy in Abuja. Hubby mailed it through DHL, received it after 2 working days.
U.S. Passport- $165 for expedited fee, it took 1 working day.
I had the passport 3 weeks before I was due to travel home, I didn't want any stories with Naija visa or passport
Naija visa- $385, took 3 working days.
Infant ticket- $380, I also paid for bassinet seat for $35 per route i.e hou- fra, then fra-Naija
Lufthansa gave me a lot of headache concerning this infant ticket, after paying for the ticket I thought everything was ok only for me to go to the airport to make enquiries requiring excess luggage and I was told my baby didn't have a ticket. I immediately called their customer service and they said it was rectified and that the ticket was issue and sent to my mail box. When we got to Houston on our way home, I tried to get a boarding pass for myself, my mum and my baby. Only for me to receive the shock of my life that my baby doesn't have a ticket. I almost shouted the airport down. Unfortunately my phone got bad and I couldn't show the infant ticket I had to the man at the check in counter. I asked him to call Lufthansa that there was no way I could pay for a bassinet seat without having an infant ticket. He told me he doesn't call airline customer services for passengers shocked can you imagine? This is a staff for Lufthansa o. I was so pained. Told me that we will not fly that my baby doesn't have a ticket. Somehow I remembered the confirmation number for my baby's ticket because it was similar to mine. He still said he couldn't find it on his system. That I should look for a pay phone and call Lufthansa. At this point I was really pissed. He then had the nerve to ask why I was shouting at him when he was trying to help. Help how? When he blatantly refused to call to find out what was going on. I walked out and my mum was already panicking. Our phones were not working. I eventually found a pay phone and then the announcement was made that boarding was about to start. I was able to speak to a customer care agent and I poured out my frustration on the poor woman. This thing pained me because I was told in confidence that my bs bay's ticket had been issued and now I was almost stuck in Houston. The lady said my baby has a ticket, I screamed at her that why is the man at the counter telling me rubbish that my baby cannot fly. I demanded for the ticket number and to my dismay it was completely different. The lady apologized profusely and said I should go back to the counter that she will hold on.
I marched back to the check in counter and gave him the ticket number. His supervisor was already saying I should pay for another ticket there[b], then later they will refund the money for the first ticket[/b] please read the last statement I made. How can they refund the money for the first ticket when they claimed I didn't have a ticket for my baby to start with. I just ignored the man. The first man that attended to me now said that the machine isn't accepting the ticket. I bluntly told him that it was his problem not mine. He should rectify it and give me the boarding passes. He then had to call Lufthansa. I said " I thought you said you don't call Lufthansa office for passengers"? This same airline refused to send me the correct ticket and you as a staff working for the airline you cannot assist. Let me stop here abeg, I am already getting angry recalling this nasty ordeal.
Bottom line is we got our boarding passes and we got home safely. My little king behaved. Flight was cool. The air hostesses adored him. I forgot to add that excess luggage was $200 per box. I wish everyone well. God bless you all.
TravelRe: U.S. Non-immigrant Visas: We’re Listening by FADEO: 4:33pm On Nov 15, 2016
Please, i need to find out if there is a standard format for letter of invite. A colleague of mine is inviting me to the US with my family, He is an American. And we are scheduled for interview on the 30th of November. So i asked him to write a letter of invite for me to indicate at the embassy that he is inviting me.

Note that my wife will be having a child in the US within the said period. So please i need someone to help me if there is a standard format for letter of Invite

thank you
CelebritiesRe: Peter Okoye Shows Off His Cars In New Photo by FADEO: 2:52pm On Sep 09, 2016
eleojo23:
How many of them does he drive at once? undecided
How many clothes do you wear at once?

#badbelle
LiteratureRe: A Client From Hell by FADEO: 9:56pm On Aug 23, 2016
MrsExplorer:
FINAL CHAPTER

Caleb jerked in his sit, his penis hitting the side of my left thigh. I knew he was trying to tell me something but i was confused. He jerked again this time shaking his feet rapidly. I looked into his eyes, he looked into mine and then to his legs, darting back and forth between my eyes and his feet. I knew at once that the answer to what he was trying to tell me was at his feet.

I stopped grinding and did a 180 degree turn so that my back was directly facing him, while still sitting on his laps i bent down slowly and looked inbetween his two legs rubbing each foot with my hands. I found nothing. Linda didn't seem to care as long as i acted like i was actually doing what she wanted me to do. I took a glance at her, she was now sitting on the floor with the gun beside her, her legs spread apart like a fried turkey on thanksgiving day. She seem distracted, maybe she is taking a break from her pervasions but i knew i still had to be careful.

Caleb had said there was a way to get out of this mess and i intend to try. There is no way i would let myself die in the hands of this crazy woman.

I turned my neck and looked at Caleb, signaling to him that i found nothing. He started shaking his head and legs going into a kind of panic attack and then he started to sob, i placed my hands on his chest tenderly and tried to comfort him, wondering how he came to be in this postion or what Linda would have made him do. I searched again this time going more slowly, when i found nothing i decided to check his trousers which was now hanging loosely by his legs. I felt something cold, i prodded further and that was when i saw it.

Sitting in his pocket all this while might be the key to us leaving this hell hole, ''a small pocket knife''. I almost screamed in excitement, my fingers tingled, i blinked my eyes like a million time in disbelief. Immediately, i knew what i had to do.

I quickly placed the knife between Caleb's lap, stood up and started my strip dancing again, with more enthusiasm that i found even unbelievable to myself. I rocked my body, twisted and whinned my waist, flunging my hips sideways from felt to right. I brought my hands to my feet and stretched my ass towards Linda shaking my massive breasts as i did. I heard Linda clap..,

''Hahahah, Finally you are in the game'' She said.

If only she knew better. I had no business with Linda now, just Caleb. Maybe it's the adrenaline or the fact that i'm about to escape from this hole, my thighs began to feel really hot and my pelvic muscles tightened. I knelt down and crawled towards Caleb the way babies do when they start learning how to walk. When i got to him i grabbed his joystick with one hand and then used the other hand to pick the pen knife.

I rubbed his crotch more forcefully than i should, he didn't seem to bother, it was like he also knew we were close to escaping. As i moved my hand up and down his joystick, i used the other hand to gently cut the rope that held his leg to the chair, though i was very careful not to draw the attention of Linda and i still kept the rope in place like he was still tied. I also needed to cut of the ropes that tied his hands so i changed postion, i climbed ontop of him with my legs wraped around his waist(the lap dance postion) i planted my breats on his face so my hands could easily reach behind him and began cutting.

''You need to act like you are dead, passed out or something'' I whispered into his ear as i cut. He understood immediately and did as i said.

Though Caleb's hands and legs are now free, we still needed to find a way to disharm Linda and we surely couldn't unless there is a way to bring her close. If Caleb played dead, Linda would want to know what happened to him and the rest would be history. Caleb acted the dead part so well i was even begining to think he was actually dead.

''LINDA! LINDA!! LINDA!!!'' I screamed, ''I think Caleb is dead''

Linda didn't react at first but when i jumped off Caleb and began to weep uncontollably, she sprang to her feet, gun in hand and headed towards Caleb. I began to palpitate.

''what do you mean he is dead'' Linda asked and for the frist time i saw real fear in her eyes. ''what did you do to him?''

''I didn't do anything'' i said in between sobs ''I was only doing what you asked me to do and then i noticed he wasn't breathing again''


As she drew near to Caleb, she pointed the gun at me and directed me to move away from him, i did as i was told. Offcourse i'd play my part and its left for Caleb to do his. She called his name,

''Caleb!'' No answer. ''Caleb! Caleb!!'' No answer

My heart felt like it would bounce out of my chest, my stomach burnt as if on fire and for a moment i stopped crying. It was like time paused at that exact moment.

I think Linda began to really panic, she kept repeating

''Dieing was not part of the plan''
''Dieing was not part of the plan''
''Dieing was not part of the plan''

I looked at her with so much hatred and would have gone into an uncontrollable feat of laughter if not for my anticiaption for what would happen next.

Linda bent down to examine Caleb further and in that instant Caleb drove his Knee into her jaw with so much force i flinched upon impact. The kick sent Linda sprawling to the floor more shocked than hurt. The gun flying in another direction. I reached for the gun the instant it flew off her and had already grabbed it before she even had the time to recover.

Caleb reacted faster, pouncing on her with the agility of a wild beast. He rained punches on her till i had to beg him to stop. For the first time i heard Caleb speak,

''This woman should be hanged with a hook by her nipples and burnt alive'' he said in a very husky voice like he hasn't spoken for days.

''I know but you would not kill her, at least not yet'' i said.

Linda was still on the floor, her face covered in blood, she seem lifeless. Even though i finally have an edge i still felt a little pity for her. She was bleeding from her nose and her eyes were badly swollen. I directed Caleb to raise her up.

He pulled her by the hair and dragged her up, he positioned her directly in front and wraped his arm around her neck as if to choke her. I pointed the gun at her, a sinister smile playing on my face and directed her towards the door. I was just too shocked for words. All i wanted was to leave this hell and go home.

Just as we were about to reach the door, Linda started laughing, she laughed so hard i got totally confused and rattled. I looked at Caleb, he was confused too. I raised the gun higher and pointed it at Linda..,

''Why the hell are you laughing'' my voice betraying my courage.

she laughed still. No answer, just her mind rattling laugh.

I cracked the shot gun to threaten her further and her laugh just increased and at that moment Caleb started laughing too.

My stomach dropped, i moved an inch farther from the both of them and watched with immeasurable shock the brutal way my nightmare took a new dimension.

Caleb and Linda now held hands and kissed like newly married couples. I watched as they kissed for what must have felt like an eternity to me. I was too shocked to react or say anything. When they were done, they bursted out laughing again. I felt really weak but i still pointed the gun at them, that's my only hope now.

Caleb spoke first, ''So you actually believe you would escape this dungeon?''

''Do you have any idea where you are? No one has ever escaped from us'' he said while still laughing.

I finally found my voice and asked, ''But you were tied to that chair and tortured?''

''Oh that? It's just part of our routine'' Linda spoke this time.

''Everything we did was scripted since you walked into this room and you foolishly played along'' Caleb said. ''Linda has been trained to collect a little beating and lets just say torturing me is a sweet way to turn me on''

''and i love to watch two ladies fight, didn't you notice i had a hard on from that short fight? It was really nice to watch'' he continued.

I pinched myself, totally sure this was some kind of dream. Nothing happened.

''what about the pocket knife?'' i asked.

''Oh dear, it was planted in his pocket, also part of our routine'' Linda replied ''You think i would be dumb enough to leave you and him alone plotting how you are going to escape?''

''Though i must give you one thing, You really can give a good lap dance'' Caleb said. They kissed again.

I was sure if i listened to any of their ramblings much longer i would definitely go crazy. I raised the gun above my shoulder and pointed it at them.

''Well'' I said ''Then it would mean i'll just have to blast the both of you to hell'' trying so hard to sound brave.

They look shocked and started to beg, ''PLEASE! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!'' they both screamed and started to walk towards me.

I move backwards as they drew closer, my hands on the trigger. All these would come to an end soon i thought and squeezed the trigger.

BANG!!!

Nothing happened. I squeezed again, nothing. I cracked the shot gun and squeezed, nothing. I cracked and i cracked, squeezed and squeezed, nothing.

I flung the gun at them, they dodged. My brain suddenly felt fuzzy, i staggered, fell to my knees and screamed, a heart wrenching scream, i screamed till i bled from my throat and for the first time since i ran away from home, i prayed to God.

''God please save me''

Linda and Caleb laughed and kissed. ''You didn't think we'd be dumb enough to leave a bullet inside, did you?''

I need not answer. I scratched the floor with my finger nails, pulled at my hair and rolled as much as i could, willing myself to just go crazy but i didn't, this torment is right infront of me and there is no escaping it.

I stood up and bounced on caleb but before i could reach him with my clumsy attack, he raised his right foot and BAM! A kick to my head.

I blacked out.






I was running, i didn't see anything at first but i knew something was coming after me and i was running. I heard footsteps behind, i dared not look back, i staggered and fell but picked myself back up immediately. I was naked, the night was chilly, dark and misty, the birds seem to be singing in synchroization with my heartbeat. i couldn't see ahead but still i ran. I heard to. The footsteps behind me, its coming closer, i can hear its panting, its breathing, it spoke,I don't understand, the thing, its coming after me, it can't catch me, i won't let it. I ran, faster, but the faster i ran the slower i became. Its getting closer, my heartbeat. hard, fast, my legs are weak, i feel its breath on my neck, , i cringe but i had to run. I missed a step and fell, this time i saw it. Its a monster, the face of my dad, no eyes, no mouth, just darkness, tiny black butterflies are flying out of its mouth and eyes. Its my dad, no, its a monster. I scream, its on me, the butterflies, crawling on my skin, i see something like a tail trying to pierce into me, i scream, i cry, i kick at the monster, my dad, i kick, i kick, i kick....,


I was kicking when i woke up. Another terrible nightmare. I looked around and expected to see Linda or Caleb. No one. The room was clean. I looked at the bed, very comfortable. I see a beautifull wallpaper by the wall, It has red and white rose flowers. I stood up and walked around the room, it smelt nice and the A.C was on. I looked out the window and saw ''NICON LUXURY, Abuja'' I am confused, i looked at the mirror, there was still mark on my face and body so the Linda and Caleb ordeal was definitely not a dream but how am i here?

Someone knocks on the door, ''Room Service'' the voice said. I opened the door. He hands my a tray with a bottle of red wine tied with a ribbon, a small letter and the pocket knife i took from caleb's pocket.

I thank the man and close the door, i drop the bottle of wine on the bed, tear open the letter and read,



Hi Dear,

I want to believe you had a nice time at the hands of Caleb and Linda. Don't mind them, they can be very hard at times. Anyway hope they weren't too hard on you. you are safe now, they only did what i paid them to do, you went for a job and they were just doing their job.

Don't try to look for them, don't seek answers to anything, you would never find the answers you are looking for.

I only hope that now you'll stop being a social worker and do something else with your life. And by the way HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!


Your best friend.
Lucy.




It's been four years now and i'm yet to set my eyes on Lucy. I've searched and searched and found her not.

Please LUCY, if you are out there i just want to ask you one question, WHY?
Exceptional. you just caught everything about my attention. SuperB
InvestmentRe: BEWARE Six Of My Nigerian Neighbors Scammed By MMM!!! by FADEO: 7:30am On Aug 22, 2016
Ak47young:
Hi
Baba you better look for a job o. MMM can't last more than four years at most
Baba, 4 years is a long time oooo.... that 2020.... thats a good deal then
InvestmentRe: BEWARE Six Of My Nigerian Neighbors Scammed By MMM!!! by FADEO: 4:48pm On Aug 21, 2016
seighapaul:
[b]The SA Financial Institutions are the ones to blame for the inability of the system to pair its participants. Remember, MMM doesn't keep or operate a central account. So participant monies are not in MMM vaults, the monies are in participant's private bank account. Its the banks that freezes suspected participants account with government giving them power to operate. Even SA participants were warned to stay away from Bitcoins. You now understand why participants stopped Providing Help (PH), this affected the payment system of the program. The fear that the banks will detect and freeze any account that is suspected in participating in the program. In my own view, its just a way for the financial institutions to discredit its competitors and put them out of business.

Again, fast forward to Nigeria. Lets examine worst case scenario, even if our banks decide to go the SA route, its not going to be instantly. There will be a process and court scenes and warning from the government, public notices, newspaper ads, social media buzz etc... any hardcore participant will read the signs that it is time to quit. Remember MMM prides itself on its 30% returns in 30 days policy, so everyone in MMM will have 30 - 45 days to quit before the banks finalize their destructive plans.[/b]
Remember MMM prides itself on its 30% returns in 30 days policy, so everyone in MMM will have 30 - 45 days to quit before the banks finalize their destructive plans.

Good point but you forgot to take into consideration that when you can get matched within 5 days of requesting to provide help, and once you get matched, you have 48 hours to pay the receiver (so practically you dont have 35 to 45 days to quit). While you wait for maturity of the release date, at minimum (15 days) from when you requested to provide help (PH) to request to get help (GH) to the maximum number of days (as long as you want, commonly 30 days), the system can freeze up within your waiting period after you had PH.
So practically you dont have up to those number of days but all the same be vigilant. Listen to CBN and Business news always, once you hear them mention MMM for good or for bad. Bros start to pack your load or follow simple MMM WARNING, [b]use your spare money [/b]because i know people wey don dey go borrow to do MMM now. A friend had to loan 3M naira because of MMM. Anothe one was asked to pay for a land in lagos and she had to use the money for MMM first to make profit..... That what i call risky greed.... I no say make una no do am ooo... I know a lot about it.... But be careful and follow the simple warning from the MMM site.

Thank you. Just my advice.
InvestmentRe: Mmm Is The Real Deal Today by FADEO: 12:23pm On Aug 21, 2016
alwelldinho:
I concur, MMM is scam but with MMM i have been able to get a piece of land, i already started a structure on it. With MMM, im securing my future with a reasonable investment. Keep reading what oyibo people wrote while we boldly the risk. I dont need people like you with a negative mindset around me to succeed in life. i got the balls and i joined MMM, whatever outcome, i take it as a man. Im one guy MMM has touched his life positively....
Clap for yourself.........
InvestmentRe: Mmm Is The Real Deal Today by FADEO: 7:38am On Aug 21, 2016
natakin:
FADEO...LOL...PADI....MMM is not a a cash gifting organization o...please do your research well...its a community with people who are willing to help a fellow brother/sister with their spare money...please spread the good news....
NATA,, thread carefully, dont get greedy

Read this

Everything you need to know about the MMM Bitcoin scam
by Duncan Riley | Feb 29, 2016

Everything you need to know about the MMM Bitcoin scam
If you haven’t heard of the MMM Bitcoin scam yet consider yourself lucky, but this Ponzi scheme continues to do the rounds, both in the developing world and first world, to the point where SiliconANGLE’s previous coverage continues to gain traffic as more and more “members” attempt to sign up new users.
So what is the MMM Bitcoin scam, which often goes by the name of MMM Global and regional variations such as MMM China? (Now MMM Nigeria)

Here’s everything you need to know about the MMM Bitcoin scam.

What is MMM Global

The original MMM was set up by Sergey Mavrodi in 1989 and morphed into a Ponzi scheme in around 1994, primarily based out of Russia.
That original version of MMM resulted in Mavrodi, a former Russian parliamentarian, being jailed for fraud for running it.
The current MMM Bitcoin version emerged in around 2011 following Mavrodi’s release from prison, and follows the same Ponzi structure as the original.
What is a Ponzi scheme

A Ponzi scheme is an illegal investment scheme where the person or organization running it pays returns to existing investors from capital paid into it by new investors, rather than profit actually earned by the company itself.

Typically companies running such schemes offer higher than usual profits. Variations include the High Yield Investment Program (HYIP) which MMM Global falls under, in that it offers particularly high (even for Ponzi scheme) returns, or as the name suggests, a high yield.

What is MMM offering


MMM Global/China likes to cloak what it’s offering by saying that it’s not a HYIP scheme, but a “mutual-aid program” where members pay each other … which is really just a fancy way of saying they’re a Ponzi scheme without actually saying so outright.

The MMM scam’s mutual-aid program promises a 30 percent monthly return to investors who invest as little as $10, payable only by Bitcoin.

A side program call “MMM Extra” offers a full-blown HYIP rate of a staggering 100 percent per month, or a cumulative 409,600 percent per year; if that doesn’t ring alarm bells you probably deserve at this point to lose your money to them.
MMM MLM & Affiliate programs

MMM Global/China isn’t simply just your based level Ponzi scheme, at least in its current incarnation, in that it offers both an affiliate scheme and multi-level marketing (MLM) scheme on top of the base offering.

MMM Global
An affiliate scheme is one where you obtain a “referral” bonus (usually a percentage or set amount) for doing certain things, and is a completely legitimate way to make money, at least when it’s not referring people to something that is illegal to begin with, and was popularized online by Amazon.com, Inc.

With MMM, those who sign up are able to obtain affiliate payments for referrals or for posting positive testimonials online, with users receiving 10 percent from what the company refers to as “all donations of the participants you invited.”

A multi-level marketing scheme is a system where a sales force is given a commission not only for sales they generate directly, but a cut of the salespeople they have recruited make as well; while an MLM in and of itself is not illegal (Amway is the most famous MLM of them all) many MLM’s end up being illegal as they rely more on the revenues passed along via the “downline” (the path from original recruiter down multiple levels as people they have signed up sign up others, and so forth, often as far as 10 levels deep) than they do the original product they were allegedly trying to sell.

The MMM MLM involves power users becoming managers who create their own multi-level multi-level structure that offer tiered bonuses from all contributions of the members of their structures, which in this case is their downline.

Is MMM Global/China legal?

MMM claims among other things that it’s not a high-yield investment program (HYIP), and that it is legal, because it is a mutual benefit fund that sees people “help each other for free, and absolutely consciously … transfer money directly to each other, from one bank account to another, without any conditions, guarantees and promises.” This is complete and utter rubbish.

Ultimately the test of any of these sorts of things is whether the company involved is actually offering a product, or simply relying on payments from new investors to fund the returns of existing investors, and that’s exactly what MMM Global does.

A Ponzi scheme is most definitely illegal in all Western jurisdictions, and in countries like China is classified as an unlicensed investment organization, which also makes it illegal.

If I invest in MMM, will I get into trouble?

The obvious answer is not to invest in a scam like MMM Global to begin with, but lets just say you do, or already have.
There’s no clear answer here as it depends on the country you live in; ultimately authorities are primarily going to be interested in those running the scheme versus those sucked into it as investors (potentially victims).

However, there is usually a distinct line between those who join, and those who actively recruit.
If you are recruiting people to MMM Global/China or any of its similar country based variants, you are promoting an illegal activity and you may well be liable to prosecution.

A not to dissimilar Bitcoin-based Ponzi scheme ran through Hong Kong and Taiwan last year and in both countries those promoting it, that is not the founders but those who signed up then tried to sign up others, were arrested over their involvement.
There would be no difference in mainland China, or indeed any western country, should you be involved at this level.

I’ve invested in MMM but can’t get my money out, what do I do?

If you’ve already invested not knowing what you were getting yourself into, the bad news is that it’s highly unlikely you’ll ever get your money back. However that doesn’t mean that you can’t do anything.

Report the scam to local authorities, that may mean local or State police, or even Federal Organizations ranging from the FBI, through to securities bodies such as the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) in the U.S., and the Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC) in Australia. (Nigerian Securities and Exchange Commission)

You may have lost your money by investing in MMM Global, but that doesn’t mean you can’t help stop others getting caught up in the scam and assist in putting the people running it behind bars, where they deserve to belong
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/02/29/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-mmm-bitcoin-scam/
LiteratureRe: A Client From Hell by FADEO: 11:28pm On Aug 20, 2016
Exellento.... Exceptionally perfect.... Lovely piece. More power and inspiration to you. Hope you plan writing for our nollywood substandard writers?
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AutosRe: Affordable Original Honda Car Parts. by FADEO: 7:38am On Aug 20, 2016
[quote author=luvinhubby post=47714539][/quote]Nice to know
InvestmentRe: Mmm Is The Real Deal Today by FADEO: 10:08am On Aug 12, 2016
tecmon:
What exactly is MMM pls
MMM is a ponzi scheme and a cash gift system that is illegal in the US and you can go to jail up to 7years in some states if you participate in this system.

Anyway if you are in it, enjoy it while it last.
PropertiesRe: Contemporary Nigeria Building Designs By Hafux Consuls by FADEO: 6:13am On Apr 30, 2016
darenyx:
Drop your mail...will foward it to you
fregdave@yahoo.com

Thank you sir.
CelebritiesRe: Tiwa Savage's Marriage To Teebillz Is Over - Tiwa Reveals In An Interview by FADEO: 10:28pm On Apr 29, 2016
Ekii:
Truly Tiwa was mentally and emotionally abused in that marriage. See how overwhelmed she is by her experience. It's best she leaves and still have her sanity. People like teedebts suck the life out of a person. Just imagine what this woman had to go through just to keep up appearances . You made your wife become the breadwinner and you still expect her to ask you if you have eaten after a hard day's job, when it's him who's the house husband that should have been asking her what she would like to eat. According to fela, na sugbe you be.
You are a fool. Go and read a book by TD JAKES... HE Emotions..... You just open that your stinking mouth to say nonsense when you no dey there. have you heard the mans side of the story before you judge. A fool judge a matter without hearing both sides of the story. you did not see the part that she said he hustled for her. My dear in all thine getting, get brain....
CelebritiesRe: Tiwa Savage's Marriage To Teebillz Is Over - Tiwa Reveals In An Interview by FADEO: 9:59pm On Apr 29, 2016
No she has a broken marriage like the broken screen of her phone, Make she go fix the screen of her phone may be the marriage go dey fixed too. All that glitters no be gold..... Marriage for dubai, suicide for lekki, story for pulse and twitter. Nonsense people. Them think say marriage na to come dance and challenges no dey marriage. when you sacked him, and behaved as if you are his boss and he is just a nobody and he also took advantage of you cause your marriage was based on lies and piblic stunt. e don clear for your eye now abi..... Hope others will learn. LAzy men wey no wan work and foolish ladies wey dey bread win and employ cook for husband. Awon Ode radarada. So long story short, Jamal is not yer 2 and he is already a product of a broken marriage.
PropertiesRe: Contemporary Nigeria Building Designs By Hafux Consuls by FADEO: 5:28am On Apr 28, 2016
darenyx:
4 bedroom bungalow design (for a nairalander)

Features :
Lounge
Dinning
Kitchen
Verandah
Visitors toilet
Guest bedroom(ensuite)
Bedroom 1 and 2 (ensuite)
Masters bedroom (ensuite with walk in closet)
Garage with a roof top patio

External dimensions : 16.650m (54.6ft) X 12.300m(40.35ft)
Land dimensions : 30m(100ft) X 15m(50ft)
With parking space for 5 cars and a security house

Igben Afuevun Darhare
+234-8034843342, +234-8124818543
darenyxaid@gmail.com
Pls sir can I have a look at what the interior looks like. am confused about building a 4 bedroom duplex in PH or a 4 bedroom bungalow on a 100x50 land area. Pls I will like to have a look at the interior ( floor plan)
PropertiesRe: A Dairy Of My 1st Building Project by FADEO: 5:10am On Apr 27, 2016
Nice knowledge sharing and transfer.
PropertiesRe: Best Of Price On Tiles,water Closet,pipes And Fitting Free Home Delivery by FADEO: 12:10am On Mar 09, 2016
rotecch77:
Your mail is not going sir, pls re-confirm
the mail is correct

fregdave@yahoo.com
fregdave@gmail.com
CrimeRe: EFCC Arraigns Bolaji Quadri For One Thousand US Dollars Fraud by FADEO: 11:41am On Mar 08, 2016
To all yahoo boyz....

Hard work pays.... work hard day and night... you will make it one day.... HOLD ON and be legit, you go blow real big when your time come.

So this guy will forfeit his freedom because of just 1000 dollars we no fit buy am KEKE NAPEP.

E tepa mo ise...... and pray for favour......

cheers
Car TalkRe: Who Taught You How To Drive? by FADEO: 11:30am On Mar 08, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/1933918/taught-spouse-drive/7

Read experiences of people that taught their spouse how to drive. you will laugh you head off.
PropertiesRe: Best Of Price On Tiles,water Closet,pipes And Fitting Free Home Delivery by FADEO: 10:54pm On Mar 07, 2016
rotecch77:
Ok sir, I will double check my mail box
Bros. Simply click on the documents attached to this comment below. U will see the quotation of what I need prices for. Both for tiles and for plumbering work
Thank you sir

Send to fregdave@yahoo.com and copy fregdave@gmail.come
PropertiesRe: Best Of Price On Tiles,water Closet,pipes And Fitting Free Home Delivery by FADEO: 10:14pm On Mar 07, 2016
rotecch77:
Pls kindly re-send it sir
Find attachment.
This is it again....bros please give me prices for this quotation. i will appreciate you send it to fregdave@yahoo.com and cc: fregdave@gmail.com. Thank you sir.
You can also share some pictures with me too

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